Taken and translated from an article: "Un autre petit-fils de Babuji se jette dans l'aventure", by Alexis, on Elodie's blog in Europe: Pour Que Vive Le Sahaj Marg.
Society for Babuji's Mission:
Comment by 4d-Don:
It seems that this group confirms yet again our concerns about the "materialist" (not spiritual) bent of the Sahaj Marg (tm) of Chari, and his Shri Ram Chandra Mission (SRCM - California-1997), registered in San Luis Obispo, in 1997. They (every faction) all seem to be somewhat "SPIRITUALIST" (as opposed to "spiritual").
Notice this statement on the first page of this site: "This also earned for Him from the nature the title of "Special Personality". It would appear that "nature" is now giving out "titles"!! Hmmm!!
I am sure that the disciples of other religions (Islam, Christianity, Buddhism, Sufism, etc...) would think that this spiritualist (with an anonymous French Lady Medium, egregores, messages from the spirits of the dead, etc...) group is also not very respectful of their religion by claiming that because Babuji "dreamed" about their "leaders", it means that Babuji and Sahaj Marg now have a "mission" from them all. (these religious leaders are all MEN ... Christians allege that their leader is the one and only "Son of God" and hence, Jesus Christ is allegedly also GOD!! )
From their site (about Sharad Chandra)
Last sitting of him with Babuji was in Paris in (August) in 1982 when he placed both his arms on his head and told "Sharad all I have , I have transferred it to you . Here after you will be the one and only powerful person".
From their site, in "HISTORY" ... Will this group build ashrams also?? The test... Let us wait and SEE (become a "seer") !!
(...) Rev. Babuji was not interested in creating more ashrams buildings because properties create room for differences and were not required too. His wish was that every home should become like an ashram.
One can only surmise that there is no "EGO" in Sahaj Marg ;-)) : "they are all SAINTS" or demi-gods!!
ALL IN YOUR DREAMS !!
February 18, 2012
Another Grandson Of Babuji Throws Himself Into The Adventure
A Society for the Mission of Babuji
Sharad Chandra, son of Prakash Chandra Saxena and grand-son of Babuji (former candidate for the succession of Babuji in 1983-84) created a website on March 23, 2011 to promote the Sahaj Marg through the "Society for Babuji's Mission" , with a sidekick named Shubh Chintak Kishore. (www.societyforbabujismission.org.in)
They say among other things: “ (…) the Organisation grew very fast and became very big and ultimately departed from its object of concentrating on the spiritual mission, as it is involved more in organizational matters.”
But they add: “We, therefore, decided to register the Society to promote His mission "Sahaj Marg" independently, avoiding any legal hassle. Our mind set is to finally merge this Society into the SRCM, once it confines itself to the maintenance and promoting the spiritual awareness, the original mission of Rev. Babuji Maharaj.”
Alexis
Saturday, February 18, 2012
Wednesday, February 08, 2012
Natural Path Meditation = Sahaj Marg(tm) & Shri Ram Chandra Mission (SRCM)
Taken From Michael's blog, "Inner Circle of SRCM" in the USA. Michael was a preceptor of SRCM under Chari. (see Michael's blog for his experience with Sahaj Marg and the Shri Ram Chandra Mission (SRCM and SRCM(California-1997), now being called "Natural Path Meditation", Natural Path Group or Natural Path Center.
FYI ... (For Your Information)
FYI ... (For Your Information)
SRCM and Sahaj Marg Renamed as Natural Path Meditation
Since late 2010, several SRCM centers in the US and possibly abroad, appear to have changed references to SRCM in their public meeting announcements on the MeetUp.com and other public Internet sites, using instead a new name of either "Natural Path Meditation Group" or "Natural Path Meditation Center". They also appear to be replacing the term Sahaj Marg with the brand, "Natural Path Meditation" to describe their meditation practice.
For quite some time now, a web search of "SRCM" or "Sahaj Marg" results in one or more blogs critical of SRCM showing up in the early search results. One can easily theorize that such a concerted deception is an attempt to keep prospective members from being informed prior to attending an introductory workshop. Interestingly, many of these Internet meetup invitations also neglect to mention any spiritual Master by name or title.
I am not aware of any official announcement of the re-naming of Sahaj Marg, however, I will honor the SRCM leaderships apparent push to quietly re-brand SRCM/Sahaj Marg. Going forward I will refer to Sahaj Marg as Natural Path Meditation and the SRCM or Shri Ram Chandra Mission as either the Natural Path Meditation Group or the Natural Path Meditation Center.
I hope this clears up any confusion folks my have in their quest to understand more about this organization and its meditation practice.
Alexis Reported:
Sahaj Sandesh No: 2011.32 Sunday, 2 October 2011
1. Mission's official presence on Facebook
It has been brought to our notice that several abhyasis have opened pages / groups related to the Mission on various social networking sites like Facebook, etc. Please kindly note that the Mission is formally present on Facebook at https://www.facebook.com/sahajmarg. Therefore all abhyasis who have opened such pages / groups on Facebook as well as other social networking sites are requested to kindly remove the same immediately and desist from doing so in future.
Please also note that SRCM, Shri Ram Chandra Mission, and the Emblem are registered trademarks of the Mission. Sahaj Marg Spirituality Foundation and the Foundation’s flag are the registered trademarks of the Sahaj Marg Spirituality Foundation. Therefore, by law, the Mission and the Foundation are required to protect their respective trademarks against unauthorized infringements. Therefore, abhyasis are requested to kindly refrain from unauthorized use of these trademarks which are protected under international Trademark laws.
http://www.facebook.com/sahajmarg
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Natural Path Meditation Center, Natural Path Meditation Group Club, Stanford.edu
18 meetup group: http://www.meetup.com/find/?keywords=Natural+Path+Meditation&op=search
Cleveland: http://www.meetup.com/Cleveland-Natural-Path-Meditation-Center/about/
Houston: http://www.meetup.com/Natural-Path-Meditation-Houston/
Wayne: http://www.meetup.com/NaturalPathMeditation/
Dekalb: http://www.meetup.com/Natural-Path-Meditation-DeKalb-Sycamore/
Columbia: http://www.meetup.com/Naturpath-meditation-Columbia-SC/
Jacksonville: http://www.meetup.com/natural-path-meditation-jacksonville/
Etc.
Sunday, January 29, 2012
Sahaj Marg(tm) and the Urgency of Spiritual Realization!
Taken and translated from an article by Elodie: "L'urgence de la realization spirituelle", on her blog in Europe: Pour Que Vive Le Sahaj Marg.
The Urgency of Spiritual Realization
One must believe that I was not yet ready to hear and understand the analysis of Michael when he published it. Yet it is irrefutable and relentless.
Michael was a U.S. abhyasi (and preceptor) from 1979 to 1988. He lived the sad transition from Babuji to Chari from very closely having been involved in the committee for dissemination and censorship of the speeches of Chari. He paid the price of the power struggles within the circle of the closest disciples of Chari.
The full testimony is posted on his blog http://innercircleofsrcm.blogspot.com/
While Sahaj Marg is synonymous with the "natural way", it is actually a practice that cheats nature by force of will to accelerate a "natural" development. It is based on the acceptance that we start from a level of spiritual insufficiency, which requires an external force to rectify the situation.
Babuji's message is that we are not spiritually developed enough and that there is an urgency to do so, the divine realization becomes complete when we reach the Central Region, a brighter world.
The method of Sahaj Marg achieves this goal through meditation on the heart, but it requires a living Master so as to be accelerated, which will promote the spiritual transmission. This is the first crucial point, the dependence vis-à-vis a teacher but there is another, it is the (claimed) exclusivity of the method of Sahaj Marg, which will lead one to serve the Mission.
Doubly blind and total dependence on the Master and the Mission, of the disciple who wants to progress.
Babuji has instilled the idea that we are spiritual midgets, and that it is urgent to progress, and that he has a method to achieve in an ordinary lifetime, the merger with the Divine in the Central Region. If we as spiritual aspirants, want to grow spiritually, we need an all-powerful master and a method incarnated in the SRCM Mission.
The result? The abhyasis jostle for spiritual favors from the Master, in the hope of getting an improvement in return, their just reward. The goal of the spiritual aspirant becomes blind service to the mission, total obedience to the Master for his favor. In theory, the action of the disciple is disinterested, in practice, it is the opposite: he/she is terribly interested, he/she seeks a spiritual reward.
As the spiritual aspirant is not alone, he/she must surpass his/her co-disciples, his/her competitors, to better attract the attention of the Master and get more out of him, enjoying his favor.
The urgency of the result to be achieved, (and) the need to go through a Master to do so, create a competitive atmosphere where all jostle for his (the Master) attention. It's a fierce and selfish competition.
The other result is that in theory there is spiritual transmission from the master to the disciple, but in reality there is only one transfer: the power of the disciple to the Master, the sole beneficiary of this vast spiritual fraud.
Some time ago, I asked these questions at the end of my reflection on the theme of: "Chari, Spiritual Mafiosi"?
What does it serve to join a spiritual group, to follow the teaching of a master and to be supported by a preceptor? Is it just to go faster and to not get lost on the path of spirituality?
How does one choose a good spiritual teacher? How does one recognize him without being misled by false pretenses? How does one trust him without alienating one's freedom and losing one's free will?
The analysis of Michael brings some good answers: let us leave the spiritual nature happen (naturally) without trying to speed it up, so we will not have to lose our freedom. Chari took the power that we gave him, and used it for his own personal ends.
Why always want to go faster, including in spirituality? This concept of urgency, constantly picked up by Babuji and Chari, has nothing spiritual, it is even contradictory. Urgency is instead a modern and materialist concept, an idea that is largely responsible for all the ills of our society.
The SRCM is a wonderful example of our frenzy to reach a goal, a spiritual realization which leads us to the most selfish and competitive conduct.
I remind you that the debate continues and you can get involved by posting a comment on
http://pourquevivelesahajmarg.blogspot.com/2011/10/chari-un-spirituel-mafieux.html
Elodie
Michael said...
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The Urgency of Spiritual Realization
One must believe that I was not yet ready to hear and understand the analysis of Michael when he published it. Yet it is irrefutable and relentless.
Michael was a U.S. abhyasi (and preceptor) from 1979 to 1988. He lived the sad transition from Babuji to Chari from very closely having been involved in the committee for dissemination and censorship of the speeches of Chari. He paid the price of the power struggles within the circle of the closest disciples of Chari.
The full testimony is posted on his blog http://innercircleofsrcm.blogspot.com/
While Sahaj Marg is synonymous with the "natural way", it is actually a practice that cheats nature by force of will to accelerate a "natural" development. It is based on the acceptance that we start from a level of spiritual insufficiency, which requires an external force to rectify the situation.
Babuji's message is that we are not spiritually developed enough and that there is an urgency to do so, the divine realization becomes complete when we reach the Central Region, a brighter world.
The method of Sahaj Marg achieves this goal through meditation on the heart, but it requires a living Master so as to be accelerated, which will promote the spiritual transmission. This is the first crucial point, the dependence vis-à-vis a teacher but there is another, it is the (claimed) exclusivity of the method of Sahaj Marg, which will lead one to serve the Mission.
Doubly blind and total dependence on the Master and the Mission, of the disciple who wants to progress.
Babuji has instilled the idea that we are spiritual midgets, and that it is urgent to progress, and that he has a method to achieve in an ordinary lifetime, the merger with the Divine in the Central Region. If we as spiritual aspirants, want to grow spiritually, we need an all-powerful master and a method incarnated in the SRCM Mission.
The result? The abhyasis jostle for spiritual favors from the Master, in the hope of getting an improvement in return, their just reward. The goal of the spiritual aspirant becomes blind service to the mission, total obedience to the Master for his favor. In theory, the action of the disciple is disinterested, in practice, it is the opposite: he/she is terribly interested, he/she seeks a spiritual reward.
As the spiritual aspirant is not alone, he/she must surpass his/her co-disciples, his/her competitors, to better attract the attention of the Master and get more out of him, enjoying his favor.
The urgency of the result to be achieved, (and) the need to go through a Master to do so, create a competitive atmosphere where all jostle for his (the Master) attention. It's a fierce and selfish competition.
The other result is that in theory there is spiritual transmission from the master to the disciple, but in reality there is only one transfer: the power of the disciple to the Master, the sole beneficiary of this vast spiritual fraud.
Some time ago, I asked these questions at the end of my reflection on the theme of: "Chari, Spiritual Mafiosi"?
What does it serve to join a spiritual group, to follow the teaching of a master and to be supported by a preceptor? Is it just to go faster and to not get lost on the path of spirituality?
How does one choose a good spiritual teacher? How does one recognize him without being misled by false pretenses? How does one trust him without alienating one's freedom and losing one's free will?
The analysis of Michael brings some good answers: let us leave the spiritual nature happen (naturally) without trying to speed it up, so we will not have to lose our freedom. Chari took the power that we gave him, and used it for his own personal ends.
Why always want to go faster, including in spirituality? This concept of urgency, constantly picked up by Babuji and Chari, has nothing spiritual, it is even contradictory. Urgency is instead a modern and materialist concept, an idea that is largely responsible for all the ills of our society.
The SRCM is a wonderful example of our frenzy to reach a goal, a spiritual realization which leads us to the most selfish and competitive conduct.
I remind you that the debate continues and you can get involved by posting a comment on
http://pourquevivelesahajmarg.blogspot.com/2011/10/chari-un-spirituel-mafieux.html
Elodie
Michael said...
Thank you Elodie!
You inspired me to engage in the debate years ago when you created your blog and encouraged me to document my experiences and analysis. I appreciate you and your persistence in pursuit of Truth.
I concluded in my analysis years ago that:
- There is no spiritual practice, there is only embracing our spiritual existence or IS-Ness.
- There is no goal, but only our individual and unique Infinite Journey that has been placed before us by Creator.
- We need not travel down some spiritual garden path when we can embrace the fact our very existence is divine NOW.
I believe these conclusions apply well beyond SRCM.
Best Regards,
Michael
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Thursday, January 12, 2012
For Sahaj Marg(tm), a New Court Episode?
Taken and translated from an article by Elodie: "Nouveaux Episodes Judiciaires", on her blog: Pour Que Vive Le Sahaj Marg.
It seems that this is a continuation of the old feud between the two (or more) Sahaj Marg's and the two or more SRCM's ... Because SRCM is registered as a charity, we all share in paying their legal expenses with our "tax exempt" subsidies to charities, under the "education" misnomer. Let your taxation offices know your concerns.
God and His Godmen does not need to be "TAX EXEMPT"!! Support your own spiriutalist (and homophobic) beliefs by yourselves, not with society's tax exempt incentives meant for real CHARITIES.
The male God of Sahaj Marg (tm) (or His representatives) can pay HIS taxes like every other PERSON !! The adherents to Sahaj Marg(tm) System are free to put their faith in their alleged "all powerful God", and not rely in the secular (tax) systems of man! No more "tax exempt" for Religion and Spritualism under the misnomer of "education"... Most religions indoctrinate the children with fantasy presented as truth!
Notice the tricky use of SRCM (Shahjahanpur), the society of the Babuji family, which is allegedly presided by Navneet, Babuji's grandson) in the WIPO deposition ... as sneaky as a lawyer!! Does the Sahaj Marg (tm) system offer: Divinity or dishonesty, a state away from our "animal state" ? And all these battles for the corrupt "material", as animals for a carcass of the temporal realm; is that the SPIRITUALISM of Sahaj Marg (tm)??
New Court Episodes?
In the legal battle between the two (2) SRCM's, a new court decision was taken on September 14, 2011.
Read about it: http://www.ipab.tn.nic.in/151-2011.htm
It opposed the SRCM of Shahjahanpur, represented by Puneet Chandra Saxena, grand-son of Babuji and brother of Navneet, and the registered trademark (Sahaj Marg(tm)) of SRCM(California) of Chari.
I'm not sure I understand, but it seems that the authority of the Justice has found itself not competent to rule on the question of who is able to represent the Shri Ram Chandra Mission.
Your opinion, and especially your information are welcome.
Another decision was made November 25, 2011. Read here:
http://www.wipo.int/amc/en/domains/decisions/text/2011/d2011-1573.html
It opposed the SRCM of Shahjahanpur, represented by lawyers of Chari (?) to the creators of the website (Sahaj Marg Systems.com ... now off-line). SRCM of Chari is presented as the custodian of the brand "Sahaj Marg" in India, Australia, New Zealand, the United States, in the Benelux countries and on the Island of Mauritius.
If I understand the decision of the Arbitration Commission correctly, the creator of the site is ordered to give the domain name to the SRCM (California) of Chari.
Thank you for your insights on these issues.
Elodie.
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It seems that this is a continuation of the old feud between the two (or more) Sahaj Marg's and the two or more SRCM's ... Because SRCM is registered as a charity, we all share in paying their legal expenses with our "tax exempt" subsidies to charities, under the "education" misnomer. Let your taxation offices know your concerns.
God and His Godmen does not need to be "TAX EXEMPT"!! Support your own spiriutalist (and homophobic) beliefs by yourselves, not with society's tax exempt incentives meant for real CHARITIES.
The male God of Sahaj Marg (tm) (or His representatives) can pay HIS taxes like every other PERSON !! The adherents to Sahaj Marg(tm) System are free to put their faith in their alleged "all powerful God", and not rely in the secular (tax) systems of man! No more "tax exempt" for Religion and Spritualism under the misnomer of "education"... Most religions indoctrinate the children with fantasy presented as truth!
Notice the tricky use of SRCM (Shahjahanpur), the society of the Babuji family, which is allegedly presided by Navneet, Babuji's grandson) in the WIPO deposition ... as sneaky as a lawyer!! Does the Sahaj Marg (tm) system offer: Divinity or dishonesty, a state away from our "animal state" ? And all these battles for the corrupt "material", as animals for a carcass of the temporal realm; is that the SPIRITUALISM of Sahaj Marg (tm)??
New Court Episodes?
In the legal battle between the two (2) SRCM's, a new court decision was taken on September 14, 2011.
Read about it: http://www.ipab.tn.nic.in/151-2011.htm
It opposed the SRCM of Shahjahanpur, represented by Puneet Chandra Saxena, grand-son of Babuji and brother of Navneet, and the registered trademark (Sahaj Marg(tm)) of SRCM(California) of Chari.
I'm not sure I understand, but it seems that the authority of the Justice has found itself not competent to rule on the question of who is able to represent the Shri Ram Chandra Mission.
Your opinion, and especially your information are welcome.
Another decision was made November 25, 2011. Read here:
http://www.wipo.int/amc/en/domains/decisions/text/2011/d2011-1573.html
It opposed the SRCM of Shahjahanpur, represented by lawyers of Chari (?) to the creators of the website (Sahaj Marg Systems.com ... now off-line). SRCM of Chari is presented as the custodian of the brand "Sahaj Marg" in India, Australia, New Zealand, the United States, in the Benelux countries and on the Island of Mauritius.
If I understand the decision of the Arbitration Commission correctly, the creator of the site is ordered to give the domain name to the SRCM (California) of Chari.
Thank you for your insights on these issues.
Elodie.
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.
Sunday, January 08, 2012
Kasturi, Lalaji and Sahaj Marg(tm)'s Whispers From The Brighter World!
Taken and translated from an article by Alexis: "Kasturi, Lalaji et Whisper" , on Elodie's blog in Europe: Pour Que Vive Le Sahaj Marg
Sister Kasturi, the only saint of Sahaj Marg, according to Babuji, is one of the first preceptors of Babuji (1945-46). Kasturi supported Chari for a while and then there was a "parting of the ways", and she is now not part of the SRCM(California) of Chari.
It seems that Spiritualism is rampant in this group! But, where is the spirituality? Why all the competition, the divisions, and the spiritualist incantations to, as well as the reliance on the spirits of the deceased, the special personalities, Godmen, Saints, the extra-terrestrials, the aliens, the egregores, the indigo children, an elite race, THEM, etc..?
When do we as a species (or "they", the elite, the chosen, the "special") become RESPONSIBLE ?
Does prayer and a promise of the forgiveness of one's sins, make a "religious" person? Does medation and the promise of erasing of one's samskaras make a "spiritual" person?
Kasturi, Lalaji and Sahaj Marg(tm)'s Whispers (From the Brighter World)
Elodie will not like (this)!
Now, spirituality progresses around the world, it is a golden time for spirituality, a golden era. So Kasturi decided to celebrate the Basant Panchami in Lucknow on 27, 28 and 29 January 2012 in honor of Lalaji, and she invites all abhyasis.
“Now Spirituality is increasing in every part of the World. (…) This is golden time and golden Era in Spirituality.” (Saint Sister Kasturiji, Lucknow on 01.05.2011)
She prayed to Babuji for two years before he permitted her to celebrate this important holiday, so it's not her desire, Kasturi, but his, Babuji's. Phenomenal ...
“I am praying to Shri Babuji Maharaj for the past two years to do one big function about Shri Lalaji Saheb. Two months back Shri Babuji Maharaj gave me permission to do that Special Function. So it is not my desire.”
But that is not enough for her. Would you believe that Kasturi is also rounding up all the saints from the Brighter World for her celebration. Lalaji and Babuji are not enough for her, Swami Vivekananda is in the game, as are other great saints.
“This is because, Rev. Lalaji Saheb, Rev. Babuji Maharaj & Swamy Vivekanandaji and some other great saints, all are eagerly waiting, from the Brighter-World, for this Divine-Bhandare (Basanta Panchami - 2012) to bestow their Special blessings & Grace to whole humanity.”
Certainly, Kasturi has nothing to envy Chari!
The humble Kasturi, always kept in the shadow of Babuji, suddenly takes advantage of the progress of the spiritual needs, to round up as many people (and spirits) in a gigantic spiritual High Mass.
And why such a High mass in honor of Lalaji? Whereas according to this worshiper of Babuji (Kasturi), Lalaji had the Sant Mat, still present at Fatehgarh, and there was not the slightest connection with Sahaj marg. Still according to her (Kasturi), it is Babuji alone who had Sahaj Marg and the SRCM. The mission is his.
But for this High Mass, she sought Babuji's permission, which eventually he granted, after two years of prayers, moaning and whining. So, much like the medium of Whispers, she now reveals that she chats with him directly. So much good it brings her! ...
Except that all the great saints from the Brighter world are united for the success of the High Mass.
While Kasturi declared to Shashwat Pandey on February 20, 2009: “did Chariji hear the name of “brighter world” during Babuji’s time, or before him or after him? (… ) where ever did he heard this name? (…) did he ever hear this name “brighter world” (laughs..) and then there are messages from this place!”
Yes, Kasturi, one has to be careful what one says! In 2009, the Brighter world did not exist (it seems). Two years later, you've discovered it ...
Poor us, poor Elodie, poor Cyril, Denise and Jean-François (preceptors with Kasturi's schism of Sahaj Marg) . Kasturi is (allegedly) an arrant liar, a liar like all people of Sahaj Marg. Babuji is first ...
Alexis
Elodie Said:
Hi Alexis,
Contrary to what you think, I accept the criticism of Sister Kasturi, I'm not an inveterate fan.
Maybe you're right, but I propose another explanation for her remarks, where there is not the slightest contradiction:
- Sister Kasturi said that Lalaji actually has nothing to do with the Sahaj Marg, but she added that he prayed for the coming to earth of the "special personality", Babuji. As such, she may well pay tribute to him.
- Sister Kasturi never said that the brighter world did not exist. She doubts that Chari has ever approached it, which is very different. She adds herself that Babuji had taken her to the limits of our world of the living and the Brighter World, where the greatest saints live, and she had hence caught a glimpse.
Much love,
Elodie
Sunday, January 8, 2012
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Sister Kasturi, the only saint of Sahaj Marg, according to Babuji, is one of the first preceptors of Babuji (1945-46). Kasturi supported Chari for a while and then there was a "parting of the ways", and she is now not part of the SRCM(California) of Chari.
It seems that Spiritualism is rampant in this group! But, where is the spirituality? Why all the competition, the divisions, and the spiritualist incantations to, as well as the reliance on the spirits of the deceased, the special personalities, Godmen, Saints, the extra-terrestrials, the aliens, the egregores, the indigo children, an elite race, THEM, etc..?
When do we as a species (or "they", the elite, the chosen, the "special") become RESPONSIBLE ?
Does prayer and a promise of the forgiveness of one's sins, make a "religious" person? Does medation and the promise of erasing of one's samskaras make a "spiritual" person?
Kasturi, Lalaji and Sahaj Marg(tm)'s Whispers (From the Brighter World)
Elodie will not like (this)!
Now, spirituality progresses around the world, it is a golden time for spirituality, a golden era. So Kasturi decided to celebrate the Basant Panchami in Lucknow on 27, 28 and 29 January 2012 in honor of Lalaji, and she invites all abhyasis.
“Now Spirituality is increasing in every part of the World. (…) This is golden time and golden Era in Spirituality.” (Saint Sister Kasturiji, Lucknow on 01.05.2011)
She prayed to Babuji for two years before he permitted her to celebrate this important holiday, so it's not her desire, Kasturi, but his, Babuji's. Phenomenal ...
“I am praying to Shri Babuji Maharaj for the past two years to do one big function about Shri Lalaji Saheb. Two months back Shri Babuji Maharaj gave me permission to do that Special Function. So it is not my desire.”
But that is not enough for her. Would you believe that Kasturi is also rounding up all the saints from the Brighter World for her celebration. Lalaji and Babuji are not enough for her, Swami Vivekananda is in the game, as are other great saints.
“This is because, Rev. Lalaji Saheb, Rev. Babuji Maharaj & Swamy Vivekanandaji and some other great saints, all are eagerly waiting, from the Brighter-World, for this Divine-Bhandare (Basanta Panchami - 2012) to bestow their Special blessings & Grace to whole humanity.”
Certainly, Kasturi has nothing to envy Chari!
The humble Kasturi, always kept in the shadow of Babuji, suddenly takes advantage of the progress of the spiritual needs, to round up as many people (and spirits) in a gigantic spiritual High Mass.
And why such a High mass in honor of Lalaji? Whereas according to this worshiper of Babuji (Kasturi), Lalaji had the Sant Mat, still present at Fatehgarh, and there was not the slightest connection with Sahaj marg. Still according to her (Kasturi), it is Babuji alone who had Sahaj Marg and the SRCM. The mission is his.
But for this High Mass, she sought Babuji's permission, which eventually he granted, after two years of prayers, moaning and whining. So, much like the medium of Whispers, she now reveals that she chats with him directly. So much good it brings her! ...
Except that all the great saints from the Brighter world are united for the success of the High Mass.
While Kasturi declared to Shashwat Pandey on February 20, 2009: “did Chariji hear the name of “brighter world” during Babuji’s time, or before him or after him? (… ) where ever did he heard this name? (…) did he ever hear this name “brighter world” (laughs..) and then there are messages from this place!”
Yes, Kasturi, one has to be careful what one says! In 2009, the Brighter world did not exist (it seems). Two years later, you've discovered it ...
Poor us, poor Elodie, poor Cyril, Denise and Jean-François (preceptors with Kasturi's schism of Sahaj Marg) . Kasturi is (allegedly) an arrant liar, a liar like all people of Sahaj Marg. Babuji is first ...
Alexis
Elodie Said:
Hi Alexis,
Contrary to what you think, I accept the criticism of Sister Kasturi, I'm not an inveterate fan.
Maybe you're right, but I propose another explanation for her remarks, where there is not the slightest contradiction:
- Sister Kasturi said that Lalaji actually has nothing to do with the Sahaj Marg, but she added that he prayed for the coming to earth of the "special personality", Babuji. As such, she may well pay tribute to him.
- Sister Kasturi never said that the brighter world did not exist. She doubts that Chari has ever approached it, which is very different. She adds herself that Babuji had taken her to the limits of our world of the living and the Brighter World, where the greatest saints live, and she had hence caught a glimpse.
Much love,
Elodie
Sunday, January 8, 2012
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Tuesday, January 03, 2012
Sahaj Marg(tm) and Whispers. Decryption (No. 6)
Taken from Alexis's blog in Europe, the Sahaj Marg Project: Un Message Que Vous Ne Pouvez Pas Comprendre, D'abord Tenu Secret, Et Inlassablement Répété
Again, for Sahaj Marg (tm), it's those darned "extra-terrestrials", those "aliens", the Sahaj Marg(tm) "cavalry" !! (as in the Hollywood western movie genre !!) We'll be saved by THEM. THEY know better, and THEY're benevolent ... we hope!!
Are these "aliens" taking over the whole planet, the Galaxy or just " THE WEST"? Is there a "hidden message" here for the WEST in ancient greek mythology? For Troy, the adage became: "Beware of Greeks bearing gifts!!"
In the case of Sahaj Marg(tm), it could read: "Beware of materialist pseudo-spiritual geeks baring grits (liberals or the WEST)!" Or could that read: "spiritualists in spiritual (or invisible?) clothing!"
"THEY" (another Master Race, another "chosen few"... ) are coming with their spiritualist "aliens" and their invented (by their anonymous French lady medium) "extra-terrestrials" (angels?? archangels?? demons?? ) !!
This is a historical: Heads up!! We've been here before!! Many religions seem to be the same, using SPIRITUALISM ... this sort of invented spiritualist fantasy is also used by some materialists to gather the "bad" MATERIAL and/or the "addictive" or lustful power (land, money, etc...)
This group is controlled (and not democratically) by a so-called "chosen" few materialists (businessmen), nationalists and self-titled spiritualists. And, they attempt to control the MATERIAL with spiritualism
(See their Constitution and By-laws, where they state explicitely to being a "dictatorship in favour of the President", and having "standards of spiritualism" !! These "standards" are never written or spoken, unlike the Raja Yoga of Patanjali ... the REAL and complete spiritual path, not the one which Sahaj Marg(tm) adherents claim to practice, and which begins at step #7 of an eightfold path.)
A Message That You Can Not Understand, At First Kept Secret, But Endlessly Repeated
Whispers: decryption (6)
Quotes from "Whispers From The Brighter World", a major fund-raiser for SRCM (California), as compiled by an anonymous French lady Medium, who claims to be channeling Babuji, and others (aliens, extra-terrestrials, beings of light, etc...)
"The effect of these writings is proportional to the interest in reading. (...) The sum of these messages can not be ignored. Whatever reactions they arouse, they mark the reader. We repeat knowingly. This is the best way to capture the attention and to make that our words are truly heard. Human beings are so made. Sometimes, one has to strike hard for the truth to reach deep within them. All the great esoteric movements have understood this. Understanding is developed in successive phases to flower in the objective consciousness So he makes his, this truth that seems obvious. "(20.11.2000) -
" The teachers of all times, used parables to express themselves. You can not force the deaf to hear, it's also why there are few chosen. Really understanding what is hidden in seemingly innocuous words is not given to everyone. (...) A reading, however superficial, prepares for future progress. About the quantity of messages written, we hope that many reach their goal - understand who can. " (21.12.2000) -
(This quote seems to be chanelled from the "extra-terrestrials", the "aliens" themselves ? Oh! My God!! They are in contact with the Sahaj Margees through their MEDIUM, not the Guru or the Master !! Who is the real Master here? )
" Our laws are not easily understood by humans. We do not solve earthly affairs in your way. Once again, my daughter, do not be overcome by doubt. Your mediumistic ability is not at issue in this story. You must adapt to our speech and to our formulas, you can not understand their deeper meaning. Do not rely on statements which may mislead you. They are to be decoded by my son, then do not get emotionally involved in the vagaries of the business of the Mission. They regulate the rhythm of life, taking into account the perpetual play of humans - changing and unreliable. " (02/01/01) -
"These writings (whispers?) will long be forgotten before they re-emerge into the open. So if it suits you to consider that it is a fiction, we see no objection. "(02/25/01) -
" A new world is being prepared. You can imagine it. It is out of range of your understanding. " (11/03/01) -
" Man is an element in this great All, created by a unique and divine will in a universal plan which is indecipherable for him, regardless of his level of intelligence. " (27/03/03) -
" We must move beyond this stage, these messages kept secret for now, and start dealing with other banks of the spirit, where few humans venture. It would be time to open their eyes on their little person (...). " (26/10/03) -
" Such a change is prepared well in advance. It is expected in view of the major changes that go far beyond this planet, we can not yet reveal the strategy. " (07/23/04) -
" (...) this planet is somewhat experimental, subject to many tests on various components. " (29/09/04)
Let us Summarize!
These messages are kept secret for now. These writings will remain long forgotten. Understand who can. You must adapt to our speech and our formulas, you can not understand the deeper meaning. They are to be decoded by my son (Chari? or ??) . These prophecies do not concern you. A new world is being prepared. You can imagine it. It is out of range of your understanding. We can not yet reveal the strategy. This planet is somewhat experimental, subject to many tests. It would be time to open their eyes to their little person. Repetition is the basis of teaching. We must strike hard to flower in the consciousness, so that it becomes an obvious and objective truth.
Repetition is the basis of indoctrination
"We repeat deliberately, it is the best way to capture the attention. All the great esoteric movements have understood this (...) Teachers of all times, used the parable to express themselves. "
Repetition: I already talked about the importance of this technique in manipulating the crowds. Clearly, the medium knows well how to use it, and her approach is fully conscious. This indoctrinates the abhyasis gradually by dint of always repeating the same thing ... with something incomprehensible!
Emergency and misunderstanding
It is urgent, this is the first message endlessly repeated. It is time to open your eyes. But it's secret, you can not understand and it does not concern you. Only Chari is able to decode these messages, we (the aliens?) also do not disclose the strategy.
So in Whispers, you tirelessly repeat a secret message first, and then you can not understand it. The contradiction is obvious, permanent, and probably voluntary. The medium has mastered the art of saying everything and its opposite. The abhyasis reads but does not budge ...
A Very presumptuous Babuji
"It is time to open their eyes on their little person." This planet is experimental and subject to many tests. "The Babuji of Whispers is presumptuous. Our "little person" is doing well, thank you very much, let us hope that the medium is concerned only with her Special Personality and will not submit us to experimental testing. We will do better without them ... better for us?
.
.
Again, for Sahaj Marg (tm), it's those darned "extra-terrestrials", those "aliens", the Sahaj Marg(tm) "cavalry" !! (as in the Hollywood western movie genre !!) We'll be saved by THEM. THEY know better, and THEY're benevolent ... we hope!!
Are these "aliens" taking over the whole planet, the Galaxy or just " THE WEST"? Is there a "hidden message" here for the WEST in ancient greek mythology? For Troy, the adage became: "Beware of Greeks bearing gifts!!"
In the case of Sahaj Marg(tm), it could read: "Beware of materialist pseudo-spiritual geeks baring grits (liberals or the WEST)!" Or could that read: "spiritualists in spiritual (or invisible?) clothing!"
"THEY" (another Master Race, another "chosen few"... ) are coming with their spiritualist "aliens" and their invented (by their anonymous French lady medium) "extra-terrestrials" (angels?? archangels?? demons?? ) !!
This is a historical: Heads up!! We've been here before!! Many religions seem to be the same, using SPIRITUALISM ... this sort of invented spiritualist fantasy is also used by some materialists to gather the "bad" MATERIAL and/or the "addictive" or lustful power (land, money, etc...)
This group is controlled (and not democratically) by a so-called "chosen" few materialists (businessmen), nationalists and self-titled spiritualists. And, they attempt to control the MATERIAL with spiritualism
(See their Constitution and By-laws, where they state explicitely to being a "dictatorship in favour of the President", and having "standards of spiritualism" !! These "standards" are never written or spoken, unlike the Raja Yoga of Patanjali ... the REAL and complete spiritual path, not the one which Sahaj Marg(tm) adherents claim to practice, and which begins at step #7 of an eightfold path.)
A Message That You Can Not Understand, At First Kept Secret, But Endlessly Repeated
Whispers: decryption (6)
Quotes from "Whispers From The Brighter World", a major fund-raiser for SRCM (California), as compiled by an anonymous French lady Medium, who claims to be channeling Babuji, and others (aliens, extra-terrestrials, beings of light, etc...)
"The effect of these writings is proportional to the interest in reading. (...) The sum of these messages can not be ignored. Whatever reactions they arouse, they mark the reader. We repeat knowingly. This is the best way to capture the attention and to make that our words are truly heard. Human beings are so made. Sometimes, one has to strike hard for the truth to reach deep within them. All the great esoteric movements have understood this. Understanding is developed in successive phases to flower in the objective consciousness So he makes his, this truth that seems obvious. "(20.11.2000) -
" The teachers of all times, used parables to express themselves. You can not force the deaf to hear, it's also why there are few chosen. Really understanding what is hidden in seemingly innocuous words is not given to everyone. (...) A reading, however superficial, prepares for future progress. About the quantity of messages written, we hope that many reach their goal - understand who can. " (21.12.2000) -
(This quote seems to be chanelled from the "extra-terrestrials", the "aliens" themselves ? Oh! My God!! They are in contact with the Sahaj Margees through their MEDIUM, not the Guru or the Master !! Who is the real Master here? )
" Our laws are not easily understood by humans. We do not solve earthly affairs in your way. Once again, my daughter, do not be overcome by doubt. Your mediumistic ability is not at issue in this story. You must adapt to our speech and to our formulas, you can not understand their deeper meaning. Do not rely on statements which may mislead you. They are to be decoded by my son, then do not get emotionally involved in the vagaries of the business of the Mission. They regulate the rhythm of life, taking into account the perpetual play of humans - changing and unreliable. " (02/01/01) -
"These writings (whispers?) will long be forgotten before they re-emerge into the open. So if it suits you to consider that it is a fiction, we see no objection. "(02/25/01) -
" A new world is being prepared. You can imagine it. It is out of range of your understanding. " (11/03/01) -
" Man is an element in this great All, created by a unique and divine will in a universal plan which is indecipherable for him, regardless of his level of intelligence. " (27/03/03) -
" We must move beyond this stage, these messages kept secret for now, and start dealing with other banks of the spirit, where few humans venture. It would be time to open their eyes on their little person (...). " (26/10/03) -
" Such a change is prepared well in advance. It is expected in view of the major changes that go far beyond this planet, we can not yet reveal the strategy. " (07/23/04) -
" (...) this planet is somewhat experimental, subject to many tests on various components. " (29/09/04)
Let us Summarize!
These messages are kept secret for now. These writings will remain long forgotten. Understand who can. You must adapt to our speech and our formulas, you can not understand the deeper meaning. They are to be decoded by my son (Chari? or ??) . These prophecies do not concern you. A new world is being prepared. You can imagine it. It is out of range of your understanding. We can not yet reveal the strategy. This planet is somewhat experimental, subject to many tests. It would be time to open their eyes to their little person. Repetition is the basis of teaching. We must strike hard to flower in the consciousness, so that it becomes an obvious and objective truth.
Repetition is the basis of indoctrination
"We repeat deliberately, it is the best way to capture the attention. All the great esoteric movements have understood this (...) Teachers of all times, used the parable to express themselves. "
Repetition: I already talked about the importance of this technique in manipulating the crowds. Clearly, the medium knows well how to use it, and her approach is fully conscious. This indoctrinates the abhyasis gradually by dint of always repeating the same thing ... with something incomprehensible!
Emergency and misunderstanding
It is urgent, this is the first message endlessly repeated. It is time to open your eyes. But it's secret, you can not understand and it does not concern you. Only Chari is able to decode these messages, we (the aliens?) also do not disclose the strategy.
So in Whispers, you tirelessly repeat a secret message first, and then you can not understand it. The contradiction is obvious, permanent, and probably voluntary. The medium has mastered the art of saying everything and its opposite. The abhyasis reads but does not budge ...
A Very presumptuous Babuji
"It is time to open their eyes on their little person." This planet is experimental and subject to many tests. "The Babuji of Whispers is presumptuous. Our "little person" is doing well, thank you very much, let us hope that the medium is concerned only with her Special Personality and will not submit us to experimental testing. We will do better without them ... better for us?
.
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Thursday, December 15, 2011
Abhyasi of Sahaj Marg(tm) is Angry and Outraged!!
Taken and translated from a comment by Alexis (the interpretation of Whispers is Polemics), which is a reply to Mounis (see comment with Mounis' anger and outrage here), on Elodie's blog in Europe: Pour Que Vive Le Sahaj Marg.
Insertions and comments by 4d-don are in "red italics"
For Mounis (or "Moonie") ... your so-called "illumination" has many "hues" . There's the red of anger and lust. And, there's the green of greed, and desire, and more ...
Illumination, or enlightenment should carry knowledge of, not addiction to, or control by, all of the human emotional colours united to form the "WHITE" light of Cosmic Consciousness.
New Age Man! ;-))
Elodie said...
The interpretation of Whispers is Polemics
Mounis has just react violently to the decryption (of Whispers) by Alexis. He / she must not be alone in this case, but is one of the few people to take the step, and leave a message.
I share the point of view of Alexis, but I'm willing to hear other arguments. I opened this debate exactly for that. It is unfortunate that the abhyasis do not participate more. I have always published their criticisms or attacks of any kind. In a real debate there always comes good things. The ball is in your court. Speak up, you will be published and we will discuss.
The location of the debate here (in French) (comment in English on this blog)
Below is a quick summary of the arguments of Alexis
Elodie
Mounis said ...
Well. You are all just idiots! You do not even know what you think! Just look at Babuji's comments on the fall of the Soviet empire and the rest.
The United States is impoverished.
You are not up to judging a spiritual Master.
You are just minions, putting on airs over your fate. I pity you very much!
Know that the master is the master, you are not up to understanding any of his thoughts or attitudes.
Instead of wasting your time on frivolous attitudes, think about his life and what he has dedicated to you.
Shame on all those who publish such ridiculous comments. Shame on you all! Too bad, seeing you at this point. So go to your church and confess your sins of pigs, but do not say another word about my Master.
Wednesday, December 14, 2011
Alexis Said ...
Man (kind) has lost its mind
It is amusing to note that Whispers says that man(kind) has lost its mind, when Chari, on the other hand, repeats that we have to stop thinking and open our hearts. To remain in the sphere of the mind is to deny the spirituality that is the voice of the heart ...
In popular parlance, the heart, it is the emotions, the head is the reason. And Whispers tells us that things are not right because man has lost his mind. Like love, the lower instincts, such as hatred, revenge, etc.. are indeed emotions, (said to be) emanations of the heart. There are some positive, others negative. But Chari never said one had to listen only to the positive emotions from one's heart, he said one must listen to his heart, that's it!
Man has (those who have) listened to his heart, and he has lost his mind but so far, has not gained spirituality. And nothing works, we must change everything. Mankind must find reason again, then reconnect with the sphere of the mind. But it must also grow spiritually. So how?
One more contradiction, understand who can, and this is not the last ...
Danger, the punishment is coming!
Whispers exploits fears. Since the end of the glorious 30's and the first oil crisis, our world is going from crisis to crisis. The year 2011 is the year of disasters: climate, nuclear, economic, financial and social, etc.. The world is in permanent crisis. And Whispers benefits by surfing the wave of ambiant decline. We are not very far from the Apocalypse any more. (I will return) ...
Man will have to pay for his mistakes, it is the divine punishment. One is close to the Judeo-Christian imagination when, irritated by humans, God unleashed the flood.
Would "Whispers" want to make us believe in the vengeance of a cruel God? And that the SRCM will be Noah's Ark?
A vengeful and cruel God, is this the image of God in spirituality, Sahaj Marg style?
Disasters or Apocalypse?
All components of the Apocalypse are present, but the word is never uttered. Whispers prefers a new era of cataclysms. From one "whisper" to the other, the causes go from climate change to nuclear and vice versa. For nuclear, human responsibility is obvious, but the climate is much less clear. It does not help the discourse, which is bent on blaming mankind.
Whispers hesitates between nuclear disaster and climate disruption
In another life, Babuji was already announcing that the heat of the sun was dropping, the gulf stream would be diverted, that volcanoes would produce toxic gases for humanity and that the UK would sink into the ocean, etc.. It was already reality at dawn, (From "Reality At Dawn", Babuji's book) in the early 50's!
It is difficult in these conditions to completely replace the unsettled climate with a nuclear catastrophe today, without completely disavowing Babuji ...
Divine punishment or human responsibility?
SRCM, (or its adherents) which denies being a religion, borrows all the codes: the world is evil, punishment, and the Apocalypse is coming, SRCM is the solution, that is, the solution for an elite (discussed later).
There remains the problem of human responsibility. Very present at the beginning (of Sahaj Marg), it then disappears into the nature of the Apocalypse. It is therefore a divine punishment which is in question.
So who are we then to worship a God who judges us and who then administers the punishment?
Masochists?
Words have Meaning!
Let us first examine the language: a new race, an elite of souls which will regenerate humanity. The words of "Whispers" have terrible connotations. They remind one of the dark days of racialism and eugenics that raged in the late 19th and first half of the 20th century.
This is far from trivial, because it would have been just as possible to say that mankind had not completed its evolution, that it was at work right now, with the development of new spiritual abilities. This is what the people of Sahaj Marg have already qualified themselves as an involutive evolution towards invertendo or the state of the "transpersonal".
But now, instead of using the scientific language of the theory of evolution or the language of the current transpersonal psychology, Whispers revives eugenics.
A Judeo-Christian Babuji
Man is bad, racing to his ruin, divine retribution is coming, cataclysms will be unleashed, it will be the Apocalypse. But in his great goodness, God will save humanity thanks to a new race which is looming on the horizon and supported by the SRCM ... as he (God) allowed Noah's Ark at the heart of the Flood!
The chosen race can not become integrated because they are different, only in Sahaj Marg is it understood and appreciated, because that is where the way of the future is, the way to reach this new race, perhaps even to join. Sahaj Marg is the solution ...
The whispers of Babuji borrows all its codes from Judaism and Christianity. It re- takes typically and to the letter (verbatim ... word for word), the Judeo-Christian discourse It is not surprising when you consider that the medium is French, a Westerner herself bottle-fed on the Judeo-Christian culture.
Many are called but few are chosen?
An elite will save the world: there are many called but few are chosen, except that many will succeed. Here we are again faced with one of the many contradictions of Sahaj Marg.
The SRCM is a club for the elite. Moreover, these messages are addressed to "members of the brotherhood of man." The road is narrow and full of pitfalls. There are many who are called but few are chosen. In short, you're lucky to be part of this elite as it is not given to everyone, consider yourself happy. You are part of the Club ...
Elitism is an attitude which is essential for all groups so as to strengthen the internal cohesion and to make people who are outside to want to enter. SRCM cultivates very well this elitism with its supposedly unique and unparalleled method! Yes, but by dint of cultivating this sense, it also sends the image of a perfect Master, so far removed from the ordinary abhyasis that it becomes impossible to reach him or even to come close. The risk to Chari is that negative behaviors arise when the face with these difficulties. Or should not the abhyasis throw down their arms, renounce or abandon the game. Hence the concession dropped from time to time: a lot succeed ...
"A vibrational niche appropriate to the subtlety of their ethereal bodies"
Enjoy the beauty of the formula! Add a pinch of indigo children with extra-sensory perceptions, and we are plunged in the heart of the New Age, deep in the occult and Western esotericism.
The (anonymous French lady) medium of Whispers undertook a major dogmatic rewrite of the ideology of Sahaj marg, mixed in some Western New Age, and it seems very appropriate to Chari. I repeat, the words make sense. Between Judeo-Christianity, racialism and New age, the personality of the said medium shows through and becomes clear.
Why did Chari accepted this evolution / revolution of Sahaj marg? What are they trying to do? Achieve a Westernization / globalization of the concept?
The aliens are back!
We had forgotten about them a little, or lost them from sight. But the Babuji of Whispers says clearly that an invasion of aliens, a power foreign to this world, is going to happen.
But then, what about the chosen generation, our "indigo" children? Are they the aliens of which he speaks? Are we already invaded by little green men? Would these invaders be our own indigo children? Or are they collaborators of these invaders? Is this the beginning of the War of the Worlds?
We are swimming rapidly into full science fiction ...
Through anecdotes, and for the record, we note in passing that the pyramids have become relics of interplanetary relay-stations. Were the pharaohs the aliens? The Egyptians who built their tombs, were they equally little green men?
Beyond the Medium of Whisper's already mentinned many qualities, let us add that she is totally ignorant ...
The New World
The New World which Whispers promises will be completely different. It will be cleansed, strengthened and enlightened. It will match the standards set (by whom?), and will have a new structure that is emerging in letters of gold, out of the reach of our understanding. It will protect the universal balance, thanks to a prodigious knowledge.
It's a little light! The imagination of our dear medium leaves much to be desired. It is never as good as when it comes to criticizing our world of today. But when it comes to speaking of the future world, it is of minimum service: it will be different, incomprehensible ... but it will correspond to "set standards". Phew, we are assured! But what are these standards? Mystery ...
Our ignorant medium has decidedly very little imagination ...
Every man for himself: there is no time to waste, time does not exist
"A new cycle begins with this century. In a quarter century, the earth will experience great turmoil. " Thus, according to Whispers, the 21st century marks the beginning of the process "punishment-Apocalypse-New World". In 25 years, the turmoil at the beginning of the Apocalypse?
Remember that in the 50's, the Babuji from before the Brighter World had already announced the start of the turmoil, the shift of the poles, etc..
But it is even more complicated for what follows, much more imprecise: the elite race, already present among us, will emerge "after a long time." And the new world will exist only "in future centuries," knowing that this "is not for tomorrow, it is a distant future" and that to top it all, "these prophecies are not for our time ".
The explanation emerges later: "All is fleeting here below. In the world, the notion of time does not exist. " Yet in the Babuji of the Brighter World repeats endlessly, there is no time to lose ...
Long live the contradictions! One thing is certain, the Apocalypse is not for the 21.12.2012! Phew, we are partly reassured ...
Laboratory mice in the hands of a mad scientist
"There is no time to lose", and yet it is "inevitable, irreversible and programmed! "
Throughout the pages, Whispers says one thing: react now while there is still time because you can not do anything any more ...
Certainly the Whispers medium plays with the nerves of the abhyasis and mocks what is left of their intelligence. Unless this is so as to definitively desensitize the last neural connections that remain.
And it continues! Chari erected Whispers as the Bible of Sahaj Marg, the Babuji from the Brighter World urges us to read his prophecies to prepare us, but adds that "these prophecies do not concern us" ...
"The new world will correspond to the standards set," so do not worry, it has everything, it's all decided, and all programmed.
What is finally confirmed for us, one single and small time, in a turn of a phrase: "This planet is somewhat experimental, subject to many tests. "
Do you finally understand? We (you?) are puppets, marionettes with invisible strings that some pull in all directions! We're finally back to our humble condition of laboratory mice in the hands of a mad scientist named Babuji ...
Insertions and comments by 4d-don are in "red italics"
For Mounis (or "Moonie") ... your so-called "illumination" has many "hues" . There's the red of anger and lust. And, there's the green of greed, and desire, and more ...
Illumination, or enlightenment should carry knowledge of, not addiction to, or control by, all of the human emotional colours united to form the "WHITE" light of Cosmic Consciousness.
New Age Man! ;-))
Elodie said...
The interpretation of Whispers is Polemics
Mounis has just react violently to the decryption (of Whispers) by Alexis. He / she must not be alone in this case, but is one of the few people to take the step, and leave a message.
I share the point of view of Alexis, but I'm willing to hear other arguments. I opened this debate exactly for that. It is unfortunate that the abhyasis do not participate more. I have always published their criticisms or attacks of any kind. In a real debate there always comes good things. The ball is in your court. Speak up, you will be published and we will discuss.
The location of the debate here (in French) (comment in English on this blog)
Below is a quick summary of the arguments of Alexis
Elodie
Mounis said ...
Well. You are all just idiots! You do not even know what you think! Just look at Babuji's comments on the fall of the Soviet empire and the rest.
The United States is impoverished.
You are not up to judging a spiritual Master.
You are just minions, putting on airs over your fate. I pity you very much!
Know that the master is the master, you are not up to understanding any of his thoughts or attitudes.
Instead of wasting your time on frivolous attitudes, think about his life and what he has dedicated to you.
Shame on all those who publish such ridiculous comments. Shame on you all! Too bad, seeing you at this point. So go to your church and confess your sins of pigs, but do not say another word about my Master.
Wednesday, December 14, 2011
Alexis Said ...
Man (kind) has lost its mind
It is amusing to note that Whispers says that man(kind) has lost its mind, when Chari, on the other hand, repeats that we have to stop thinking and open our hearts. To remain in the sphere of the mind is to deny the spirituality that is the voice of the heart ...
In popular parlance, the heart, it is the emotions, the head is the reason. And Whispers tells us that things are not right because man has lost his mind. Like love, the lower instincts, such as hatred, revenge, etc.. are indeed emotions, (said to be) emanations of the heart. There are some positive, others negative. But Chari never said one had to listen only to the positive emotions from one's heart, he said one must listen to his heart, that's it!
Man has (those who have) listened to his heart, and he has lost his mind but so far, has not gained spirituality. And nothing works, we must change everything. Mankind must find reason again, then reconnect with the sphere of the mind. But it must also grow spiritually. So how?
One more contradiction, understand who can, and this is not the last ...
Danger, the punishment is coming!
Whispers exploits fears. Since the end of the glorious 30's and the first oil crisis, our world is going from crisis to crisis. The year 2011 is the year of disasters: climate, nuclear, economic, financial and social, etc.. The world is in permanent crisis. And Whispers benefits by surfing the wave of ambiant decline. We are not very far from the Apocalypse any more. (I will return) ...
Man will have to pay for his mistakes, it is the divine punishment. One is close to the Judeo-Christian imagination when, irritated by humans, God unleashed the flood.
Would "Whispers" want to make us believe in the vengeance of a cruel God? And that the SRCM will be Noah's Ark?
A vengeful and cruel God, is this the image of God in spirituality, Sahaj Marg style?
Disasters or Apocalypse?
All components of the Apocalypse are present, but the word is never uttered. Whispers prefers a new era of cataclysms. From one "whisper" to the other, the causes go from climate change to nuclear and vice versa. For nuclear, human responsibility is obvious, but the climate is much less clear. It does not help the discourse, which is bent on blaming mankind.
Whispers hesitates between nuclear disaster and climate disruption
In another life, Babuji was already announcing that the heat of the sun was dropping, the gulf stream would be diverted, that volcanoes would produce toxic gases for humanity and that the UK would sink into the ocean, etc.. It was already reality at dawn, (From "Reality At Dawn", Babuji's book) in the early 50's!
It is difficult in these conditions to completely replace the unsettled climate with a nuclear catastrophe today, without completely disavowing Babuji ...
Divine punishment or human responsibility?
SRCM, (or its adherents) which denies being a religion, borrows all the codes: the world is evil, punishment, and the Apocalypse is coming, SRCM is the solution, that is, the solution for an elite (discussed later).
There remains the problem of human responsibility. Very present at the beginning (of Sahaj Marg), it then disappears into the nature of the Apocalypse. It is therefore a divine punishment which is in question.
So who are we then to worship a God who judges us and who then administers the punishment?
Masochists?
Words have Meaning!
Let us first examine the language: a new race, an elite of souls which will regenerate humanity. The words of "Whispers" have terrible connotations. They remind one of the dark days of racialism and eugenics that raged in the late 19th and first half of the 20th century.
This is far from trivial, because it would have been just as possible to say that mankind had not completed its evolution, that it was at work right now, with the development of new spiritual abilities. This is what the people of Sahaj Marg have already qualified themselves as an involutive evolution towards invertendo or the state of the "transpersonal".
But now, instead of using the scientific language of the theory of evolution or the language of the current transpersonal psychology, Whispers revives eugenics.
A Judeo-Christian Babuji
Man is bad, racing to his ruin, divine retribution is coming, cataclysms will be unleashed, it will be the Apocalypse. But in his great goodness, God will save humanity thanks to a new race which is looming on the horizon and supported by the SRCM ... as he (God) allowed Noah's Ark at the heart of the Flood!
The chosen race can not become integrated because they are different, only in Sahaj Marg is it understood and appreciated, because that is where the way of the future is, the way to reach this new race, perhaps even to join. Sahaj Marg is the solution ...
The whispers of Babuji borrows all its codes from Judaism and Christianity. It re- takes typically and to the letter (verbatim ... word for word), the Judeo-Christian discourse It is not surprising when you consider that the medium is French, a Westerner herself bottle-fed on the Judeo-Christian culture.
Many are called but few are chosen?
An elite will save the world: there are many called but few are chosen, except that many will succeed. Here we are again faced with one of the many contradictions of Sahaj Marg.
The SRCM is a club for the elite. Moreover, these messages are addressed to "members of the brotherhood of man." The road is narrow and full of pitfalls. There are many who are called but few are chosen. In short, you're lucky to be part of this elite as it is not given to everyone, consider yourself happy. You are part of the Club ...
Elitism is an attitude which is essential for all groups so as to strengthen the internal cohesion and to make people who are outside to want to enter. SRCM cultivates very well this elitism with its supposedly unique and unparalleled method! Yes, but by dint of cultivating this sense, it also sends the image of a perfect Master, so far removed from the ordinary abhyasis that it becomes impossible to reach him or even to come close. The risk to Chari is that negative behaviors arise when the face with these difficulties. Or should not the abhyasis throw down their arms, renounce or abandon the game. Hence the concession dropped from time to time: a lot succeed ...
"A vibrational niche appropriate to the subtlety of their ethereal bodies"
Enjoy the beauty of the formula! Add a pinch of indigo children with extra-sensory perceptions, and we are plunged in the heart of the New Age, deep in the occult and Western esotericism.
The (anonymous French lady) medium of Whispers undertook a major dogmatic rewrite of the ideology of Sahaj marg, mixed in some Western New Age, and it seems very appropriate to Chari. I repeat, the words make sense. Between Judeo-Christianity, racialism and New age, the personality of the said medium shows through and becomes clear.
Why did Chari accepted this evolution / revolution of Sahaj marg? What are they trying to do? Achieve a Westernization / globalization of the concept?
The aliens are back!
We had forgotten about them a little, or lost them from sight. But the Babuji of Whispers says clearly that an invasion of aliens, a power foreign to this world, is going to happen.
But then, what about the chosen generation, our "indigo" children? Are they the aliens of which he speaks? Are we already invaded by little green men? Would these invaders be our own indigo children? Or are they collaborators of these invaders? Is this the beginning of the War of the Worlds?
We are swimming rapidly into full science fiction ...
Through anecdotes, and for the record, we note in passing that the pyramids have become relics of interplanetary relay-stations. Were the pharaohs the aliens? The Egyptians who built their tombs, were they equally little green men?
Beyond the Medium of Whisper's already mentinned many qualities, let us add that she is totally ignorant ...
The New World
The New World which Whispers promises will be completely different. It will be cleansed, strengthened and enlightened. It will match the standards set (by whom?), and will have a new structure that is emerging in letters of gold, out of the reach of our understanding. It will protect the universal balance, thanks to a prodigious knowledge.
It's a little light! The imagination of our dear medium leaves much to be desired. It is never as good as when it comes to criticizing our world of today. But when it comes to speaking of the future world, it is of minimum service: it will be different, incomprehensible ... but it will correspond to "set standards". Phew, we are assured! But what are these standards? Mystery ...
Our ignorant medium has decidedly very little imagination ...
Every man for himself: there is no time to waste, time does not exist
"A new cycle begins with this century. In a quarter century, the earth will experience great turmoil. " Thus, according to Whispers, the 21st century marks the beginning of the process "punishment-Apocalypse-New World". In 25 years, the turmoil at the beginning of the Apocalypse?
Remember that in the 50's, the Babuji from before the Brighter World had already announced the start of the turmoil, the shift of the poles, etc..
But it is even more complicated for what follows, much more imprecise: the elite race, already present among us, will emerge "after a long time." And the new world will exist only "in future centuries," knowing that this "is not for tomorrow, it is a distant future" and that to top it all, "these prophecies are not for our time ".
The explanation emerges later: "All is fleeting here below. In the world, the notion of time does not exist. " Yet in the Babuji of the Brighter World repeats endlessly, there is no time to lose ...
Long live the contradictions! One thing is certain, the Apocalypse is not for the 21.12.2012! Phew, we are partly reassured ...
Laboratory mice in the hands of a mad scientist
"There is no time to lose", and yet it is "inevitable, irreversible and programmed! "
Throughout the pages, Whispers says one thing: react now while there is still time because you can not do anything any more ...
Certainly the Whispers medium plays with the nerves of the abhyasis and mocks what is left of their intelligence. Unless this is so as to definitively desensitize the last neural connections that remain.
And it continues! Chari erected Whispers as the Bible of Sahaj Marg, the Babuji from the Brighter World urges us to read his prophecies to prepare us, but adds that "these prophecies do not concern us" ...
"The new world will correspond to the standards set," so do not worry, it has everything, it's all decided, and all programmed.
What is finally confirmed for us, one single and small time, in a turn of a phrase: "This planet is somewhat experimental, subject to many tests. "
Do you finally understand? We (you?) are puppets, marionettes with invisible strings that some pull in all directions! We're finally back to our humble condition of laboratory mice in the hands of a mad scientist named Babuji ...
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