Thursday, December 15, 2011

Abhyasi of Sahaj Marg(tm) is Angry and Outraged!!

Taken and translated from a comment by Alexis (the interpretation of Whispers is Polemics), which is a reply to Mounis (see comment with Mounis' anger and outrage here), on Elodie's blog in Europe: Pour Que Vive Le Sahaj Marg.

Insertions and comments by 4d-don are in "red italics"

For Mounis (or "Moonie") ... your so-called "illumination" has many "hues" . There's the red of anger and lust. And, there's the green of greed, and desire, and more ...

Illumination, or enlightenment should carry knowledge of, not addiction to, or control by, all of the human emotional colours united to form the "WHITE" light of Cosmic Consciousness.

New Age Man! ;-))




Elodie said...


The interpretation of Whispers is Polemics

Mounis has just react violently to the decryption (of Whispers) by Alexis. He / she must not be alone in this case, but is one of the few people to take the step, and leave a message.

I share the point of view of Alexis, but I'm willing to hear other arguments. I opened this debate exactly for that. It is unfortunate that the abhyasis do not participate more. I have always published their criticisms or attacks of any kind. In a real debate there always comes good things. The ball is in your court. Speak up, you will be published and we will discuss.

The location of the debate here (in French) (comment in English on this blog)

Below is a quick summary of the arguments of Alexis

Elodie




Mounis
said ...

Well. You are all just idiots! You do not even know what you think! Just look at Babuji's comments on the fall of the Soviet empire and the rest.

The United States is impoverished.

You are not up to judging a spiritual Master.

You are
just minions, putting on airs over your fate. I pity you very much!

Know that the master is the master, you are not up to understanding any of his thoughts or attitudes.

Instead of wasting your time on frivolous attitudes, think about his life and what he has dedicated to you.

Shame on all those who publish such ridiculous comments. Shame on you all! Too bad, seeing you at this point. So go to your church and confess your sins of pigs, but do not say another word about my Master.


Wednesday, December 14, 2011




Alexis Said ...

Man (kind) has lost its mind

It is amusing to note that Whispers says that man(kind) has lost its mind, when Chari, on the other hand, repeats that we have to stop thinking and open our hearts. To remain in the sphere of the mind is to deny the spirituality that is the voice of the heart ...

In popular parlance, the heart, it is the emotions, the head is the reason. And Whispers tells us that things are not right because man has lost his mind. Like love, the lower instincts, such as hatred, revenge, etc.. are indeed emotions, (said to be) emanations of the heart. There are some positive, others negative. But Chari never said one had to listen only to the positive emotions from one's heart, he said one must listen to his heart, that's it!

Man has (those who have) listened to his heart, and he has lost his mind but so far, has not gained spirituality. And nothing works, we must change everything. Mankind must find reason again, then reconnect with the sphere of the mind. But it must also grow spiritually. So how?

One more contradiction, understand who can, and this is not the last ...


Danger, the punishment is coming!

Whispers exploits fears. Since the end of the glorious 30's and the first oil crisis, our world is going from crisis to crisis. The year 2011 is the year of disasters: climate, nuclear, economic, financial and social, etc.. The world is in permanent crisis. And Whispers benefits by surfing the wave of ambiant decline. We are not very far from the Apocalypse any more. (I will return) ...

Man will have to pay for his mistakes, it is the divine punishment. One is close to the Judeo-Christian imagination when, irritated by humans, God unleashed the flood.

Would "Whispers" want to make us believe in the vengeance of a cruel God? And that the SRCM will be Noah's Ark?

A vengeful and cruel God, is this the image of God in spirituality, Sahaj Marg style?


Disasters or Apocalypse?

All components of the Apocalypse are present, but the word is never uttered. Whispers prefers a new era of cataclysms. From one "whisper" to the other, the causes go from climate change to nuclear and vice versa. For nuclear, human responsibility is obvious, but the climate is much less clear. It does not help the discourse, which is bent on blaming mankind.


Whispers hesitates between nuclear disaster and climate disruption

In another life, Babuji was already announcing that the heat of the sun was dropping, the gulf stream would be diverted, that volcanoes would produce toxic gases for humanity and that the UK would sink into the ocean, etc.. It was already reality at dawn, (From "Reality At Dawn", Babuji's book) in the early 50's!

It is difficult in these conditions to completely replace the unsettled climate with a nuclear catastrophe today, without completely disavowing Babuji ...


Divine punishment or human responsibility?

SRCM, (or its adherents) which denies being a religion, borrows all the codes: the world is evil, punishment, and the Apocalypse is coming, SRCM is the solution, that is, the solution for an elite (discussed later).

There remains the problem of human responsibility. Very present at the beginning (of Sahaj Marg), it then disappears into the nature of the Apocalypse. It is therefore a divine punishment which is in question.

So who are we then to worship a God who judges us and who then administers the punishment?
Masochists?


Words have Meaning!

Let us first examine the language: a new race, an elite of souls which will regenerate humanity. The words of "Whispers" have terrible connotations. They remind one of the dark days of racialism and eugenics that raged in the late 19th and first half of the 20th century.

This is far from trivial, because it would have been just as possible to say that mankind had not completed its evolution, that it was at work right now, with the development of new spiritual abilities. This is what the people of Sahaj Marg have already qualified themselves as an involutive evolution towards invertendo or the
state of the "transpersonal".

But now, instead of using the scientific language of the theory of evolution or the language of the current transpersonal psychology, Whispers revives eugenics.


A Judeo-Christian Babuji

Man is bad, racing to his ruin, divine retribution is coming, cataclysms will be unleashed, it will be the Apocalypse. But in his great goodness, God will save humanity thanks to a new race
which is looming on the horizon and supported by the SRCM ... as he (God) allowed Noah's Ark at the heart of the Flood!

The chosen race can not become integrated because they are different, only in Sahaj Marg is it understood and appreciated, because that is where the way of the future is, the way to reach this new race, perhaps even to join. Sahaj Marg is the solution ...

The whispers of Babuji borrows all its codes from Judaism and Christianity. It re- takes typically and to the letter (verbatim ... word for word), the Judeo-Christian discourse It is not surprising when you consider that the medium is French, a Westerner herself bottle-fed on the Judeo-Christian culture.


Many are called but few are chosen?

An elite will save the world: there are many called but few are chosen, except that many will succeed. Here we are again faced with one of the many contradictions of Sahaj Marg.

The SRCM is a club for the elite. Moreover, these messages are addressed to "members of the brotherhood of man." The road is narrow and full of pitfalls. There are many who are called but few are chosen. In short, you're lucky to be part of this elite as it is not given to everyone, consider yourself happy. You are part of the Club ...

Elitism is an attitude which is essential for all groups so as to strengthen the internal cohesion and to make people who are outside to want to enter. SRCM cultivates very well this elitism with its supposedly unique and
unparalleled method! Yes, but by dint of cultivating this sense, it also sends the image of a perfect Master, so far removed from the ordinary abhyasis that it becomes impossible to reach him or even to come close. The risk to Chari is that negative behaviors arise when the face with these difficulties. Or should not the abhyasis throw down their arms, renounce or abandon the game. Hence the concession dropped from time to time: a lot succeed ...


"A vibrational niche appropriate to the subtlety of their ethereal bodies"


Enjoy the beauty of the formula! Add a pinch of indigo children with extra-sensory perceptions, and we are plunged in the heart of the New Age, deep in the occult and Western esotericism.

The (anonymous French lady) medium of Whispers undertook a major dogmatic rewrite of the ideology of Sahaj marg, mixed in some Western New Age, and it seems very appropriate to Chari. I repeat, the words make sense. Between Judeo-Christianity, racialism and New age, the personality of the said medium shows through and becomes clear.

Why did Chari accepted this evolution / revolution of Sahaj marg? What are they trying to do? Achieve a Westernization / globalization of the concept?


The aliens are back!

We had forgotten about them a little, or lost them from sight. But the Babuji of Whispers says clearly that an invasion of aliens, a power foreign to this world, is going to happen.

But then, what about the chosen generation, our "indigo" children? Are they the aliens of which he speaks? Are we already invaded by little green men? Would these invaders be our own indigo children? Or are they collaborators of these invaders? Is this the beginning of the War of the Worlds?

We are swimming rapidly into full science fiction ...

Through anecdotes, and for the record, we note in passing that the pyramids have become relics of interplanetary relay-stations.
Were the pharaohs the aliens? The Egyptians who built their tombs, were they equally little green men?

Beyond the Medium of Whisper's already mentinned many qualities, let us add that she is totally ignorant ...


The New World


The New World which Whispers promises will be completely different. It will be cleansed, strengthened and enlightened. It will match the standards set (by whom?), and will have a new structure that is emerging in letters of gold, out of the reach of our understanding. It will protect the universal balance, thanks to a prodigious knowledge.

It's a little light! The imagination of our dear medium leaves much to be desired. It is never as good as when it comes to criticizing our world of today. But when it comes to speaking of the future world, it is of minimum service: it will be different, incomprehensible ... but it will correspond to "set standards". Phew, we are assured! But what are these standards? Mystery ...

Our ignorant medium has decidedly very little imagination ...


Every man for himself: there is no time to waste, time does not exist

"A new cycle begins with this century. In a quarter century, the earth will experience great turmoil. " Thus, according to Whispers, the 21st century marks the beginning of the process "punishment-Apocalypse-New World". In 25 years, the turmoil at the beginning of the Apocalypse?

Remember that in the 50's, the Babuji from before the Brighter World had already announced the start of the turmoil, the shift of the poles, etc..

But it is even more complicated for what follows, much more imprecise: the elite race, already present among us, will emerge "after a long time." And the new world will exist only "in future centuries," knowing that this "is not for tomorrow, it is a distant future" and that to top it all, "these prophecies are not for our time ".

The explanation emerges later: "All is fleeting here below. In the world, the notion of time does not exist. " Yet in the Babuji of the Brighter World repeats endlessly, there is no time to lose ...

Long live the contradictions! One thing is certain, the Apocalypse is not for the 21.12.2012! Phew, we are partly reassured ...


Laboratory mice in the hands of a mad scientist

"There is no time to lose", and yet it is "inevitable, irreversible and programmed! "

Throughout the pages, Whispers says one thing: react now while there is still time because you can not do anything any more ...

Certainly the Whispers
medium plays with the nerves of the abhyasis and mocks what is left of their intelligence. Unless this is so as to definitively desensitize the last neural connections that remain.

And it continues! Chari erected Whispers as the Bible of Sahaj Marg, the Babuji from the Brighter World urges us to read his prophecies to prepare us, but adds that "these prophecies do not concern us" ...

"The new world will correspond to the standards set," so do not worry, it has everything, it's all decided, and all programmed.

What is finally confirmed for us, one single and small time, in a turn of a phrase: "This planet is somewhat experimental, subject to many tests. "

Do you finally understand? We (you?) are puppets, marionettes with invisible strings that some pull in all directions! We're finally back to our humble condition of laboratory mice in the hands of a mad scientist named Babuji ...







Sunday, December 11, 2011

Sahaj Marg(tm) and Whispers: Between a State of Emergency and Eternity!

Taken and translated from a comment by Alexis (see comments) on Elodie's blog in Europe: Pour Que Vive Le Sahaj Marg

Insertions and comments by 4d-Don are in "red italics".


The Sahaj Marg abhyasis are no more than laboratory mice in the deviant experiment of another religious "mad scientist" toying with the "disempowered" and the gullible few, who are waiting and praying to be saved by THEM!! (from the mythic "Institute of "THEY")... such are the: aliens, spirits, saints from the past, deceased gurus, long-dead messiahs, saviours, etc...) .

Or, they are puppets in the hands of some imagined puppeteers, some "entities from the Brighter World" . This according to an anonymous, self-appointed French lady MEDIUM, sanctionned by the dead-guru's, self-appointed successor. Successor to the Guru who before dying, replaced Chari (as secretary) because of "lack of tingling" in the heart. (LOVE??)

Such is religion and their mechanism ... FEAR and TEMPTATION ...

Sahaj Marg is not Raja Yoga ... seriously!! Nor is it "divine"!!




Between a State of Emergency and Eternity, Determinism and Free Will

Whispers: decryption (5)

Series of Quotes from Whispers from the Brighter World, as channeled by an anonymous French lady Medium.

Chari calls this their "Bible". Then, he stated that there would be such "whispers" for 12 more years ... (a major fund-raiser for SRCM(California-1997). Also, according to Chari, reading these "whispers" over and over (8 times or so), "may" erase samskaras.
Seriously now!! How gullible can some be!! All this from a "just" (and male) God??

"A new cycle begins with the century, marking humanity. (...) We are all working here to set up structures to suit the distant future (...). "
(21/12/2000) -

" This time is not for tomorrow.
The earth will experience great changes before we get there. These prophecies do not concern you. You suffer the harm of these insidious pollutions that will lead the world to ruin, but you can not stop time nor change the system. "
(29.12.2000) -

" These predictions should not worry nor embarrass you.
They do not concern this time and there will passs much (time?) before everything we propose will come to pass. "
(02/25/01) -

" In a quarter century, the earth will experience great turmoil.
(...) Man, paying the gross errors of his ancestors, will suffer without being able to control the situation. "
(28/02/01) -

" The changes
without name will occur to clean up this world, leaving a long time to emerge finally the chosen race, capable of establishing a new world corresponding to the expected standards. "
(10/11
/ 03) -

"A new world and completely different from what you currently live, will exist in future centuries." (03/11/01) -

"There is no time to lose.
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(05/12/03) -

" Everything evolves and changes in the universe, where the notion of time does not exist (...).
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(17/01/04) -

" May the people come to their senses while there is still time.
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(12/28/03) -

" (...) time is running out, humanity is in danger in many ways.
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(7/1/04) -

" (...) the inevitable happens.
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(11/09/04) -

" All is fleeting here below (...) this planet is somewhat experimental, subject to many tests on various components.
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(29/09/04) -

" The movement is irreversible (...) "
(09/10/04) -"

"Thus is it programmed!
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(23/10/04)



Every man for himself: there is no time to waste, time does not exist

"A new cycle begins with the century. In a quarter century, the earth will experience a great turmoil. " Thus, according to Whispers, the 21st century marks the beginning of the process "punishment-Apocalypse-New World". In 25 years, the turmoil at the beginning of the Apocalypse?

Remember that in the 50's, the pre-Brighter World Babuji had already announced the start of the turmoil, the shift of the poles, etc..

But it is even more complicated for the future, much more imprecise: the chosen race, already present among us will emerge "after a long time." And the new world will exist only "in future centuries," knowing that this "is not for tomorrow but is the distant future" and that fills things, "these prophecies do not concern our time ".

The explanation arises then: "All is fleeting here below. In the world, the notion of time does not exist. " Yet the Babuji from the Brighter World keeps repeating endlessly that there is no time to lose ...

Long live the contradictions! One thing is certain, the Apocalypse is not for the 21.12.2012! Phew, we are partly reassured ...


Laboratory mice in the hands of a mad scientist

"There is no time to lose", and yet it is "inevitable, irreversible and programmed! "

Throughout the pages, Whispers repeats one thing: react while there is still time because you can not do anything about it ...

Certainly the medium of Whispers plays with the nerves of the abhyasis and mocks what is left of their intelligence. Unless this is definitely so as to numb the last neural connections which remain.

And it continues! Chari has erected Whispers as the Bible of Sahaj Marg, the Babuji from the Brighter World urges us to read his prophecies to prepare us, but adds that "these prophecies do not concern us" ...

"The new world will correspond to the standards set," so do not worry, he has considered everything, decided everything, programmed everything.

Which he finally confirms in one single, small time, in the turn of a phrase: "This planet is somewhat experimental, subject to many tests. "

Do you finally understand? We are puppets, puppets which some invisible entity pulls in all directions! We're finally back to our humble condition of laboratory mice in the hands of a mad scientist named Babuji ...


Alexis




Elodie Said:

Hello everyone,

I do not know if this is the final part of the decryption of Whispers by Alexis, but I would have to thank him for the tremendous work he has done. This does not change my overall impression, but it has all the elements husked one after the other and text analysis shows each time a little more the importance of brainwashing is to work with this book at the moment. It's appalling.

I remember this picture of abhyasis, laboratory mice, delivered into the hands of a mad scientist, whether Babuji, Chari or medium, the spirit to lobotomize.

Much love,

Elodie

Sunday, December 11, 2011


See also:

Sahaj Marg and Whispers (1) : The New Ideology of Sahaj Marg
Sahaj Marg and Whispers (2): Decryption-Apocalypse
Sahaj Marg and Whispers (3): A New Race
Sahaj Marg and Whispers (4): What Will Tomorrow Bring?

Chari Has Problems With Sex!!

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Sunday, December 04, 2011

Sahaj Marg(tm) and Whispers: What Will Tomorrow Bring?

Taken and Translated from a comment by Alexis on Elodie's blog in Europe: Pour Que Vive Le Sahaj Marg.

Inserts and additions by 4d-don are in "red italics"


The aliens are back!! The aliens are back!!

Same old FEAR and TEMPTATION mechanism used by religions since the beginning of recorded historical or mythic time, and by its "priests", their prophets and Mediums: the story-tellers, the word-charmers, the inventors and merchants of the opiates of fantasies.

Since man witnessed forces in Nature, (s)he mystified and pesonified them, naming them gods, demons, spirits, egregores, etc... and then finally, a monotheistic "GOD" and ITS negative counter-part, the "DEVIL", the personification of "evil" ... Most religions are not "mono" at all, but are in reality, dualities ... not UNITY or ONE !!


Sahaj Marg(tm) is not very unique at all ... just another dual religion with aliens, spirits, heaven (brighter world), and a hell of "re-incarnations" ...

...surrounded by "THEM", the eternally divisive and warring religious flakes and fluff!!
"By their fruit, one will know them!"




What Will Tomorrow Bring?

Whispers: decryption (4)

Mankind races to its ruin, divine punishment comes, it will be the Apocalypse. But a new breed supported by the SRCM emerges and will save the world ...

About, "... of what will tomorrow be made?"
The Sahaj Marg (tm) answer is:
(Quotes from Whispers From the Brighter World, as channeled by an anonymous French Lady Medium)


"A new cycle begins with this century, which will mark humanity. After much turmoil, the darkness will give way to light for many. We are all working here to set up structures to suit the distant future, but that is already being written in letters of gold. " (21.12.2000) -

" The history of the earth is very old and very rich. It
(she?) has known advanced civilizations. Aliens (extraterrestrials), as you call them, came to implement exploration sites and build interplanetary relays. Some still exist, although they don't have their origianl usefulness any more. The pyramids are among them. (...) A very important invasion will occur (...). These beings will bring tremendous expertise that will leave stupefied the poor earthlings, with their great ideas on everything, which are, in large part, false or null. These beings come to protect the universal balance from the actions of men and from the huge risks
they take with their so-called progress, alarming for several reasons. " (4/3/01) -

" A new world and one completely different from what you currently live, will exist in future centuries. (...) A new world is being prepared. You cannot imagine. It is out of the range of your understanding. (...) If there are some vestiges left of your civilization, perhaps it will be studied with curiosity. This is so since the beginning of time. Everything evolves and renews itself. " (11/03/01) -

" It's a vicious cycle that will never end and will, sooner or later be stopped by a power foreign to this planet which will have no other means to stop this dangerous escalation, harmful to the universal equilibrium. The lower instincts of human nature are difficult to counter. The strong method (heavy-handed method?) will have to be imposed one day (...). " (13/09/01) -

" Upheavals without name must occur so as to clean up this world, a long enough time, leaving finally emerge the chosen race, capable of establishing a new world corresponding to the expected standards. " (10/11/03) -

" Let us work for this evolution, time is running out, humanity is in danger in many ways.
What emerges from this cesspool will be strengthened and enlightened. " (07/01/04)


Let us Summarize!

We must clean up this world, what emerges from the sesspool will be strengthened and enlightened. The darkness will give way to light. After a long enough time will finally emerge the chosen race: a very large invasion will occur, a power foreign to this world, what you call aliens (extraterrestrials?) , will bring tremendous expertise to protect the universal balance and will make a new world, completely different and out of reach for your understanding.

The aliens are back!

W e had forgotten them a little, lost sight of them. But the Babuji from Whispers says much about an invasion of aliens, a power foreign to this world is going to happen.

But then, what about the chosen generation, our "indigo children"? Are these the aliens about which he speaks? Are we already invaded by little green men? Could these invaders be our own children indigo? Or are they collaborators of our invaders? Is this the beginning of the war of the worlds?

It swims rapidly into science fiction ...

For the record (anecdote?), we note in passing that the pyramids have become relics of (some) interplanetary relay. The pharaohs were then aliens? The Egyptians who built their tombs, were they equally little green men?

Beyond the immense qualities already mentioned by the medium of Whispers, let us add that she is totally ignorant (according to her own "messages") ...

The New World

The New World which promises Whispers will be completely different. It will be cleaned, strengthened and enlightened. It will match the standards set, and will be a new structure that is emerging in letters of gold, out of the reach of our understanding. It will protect the universal balance, with a prodigious knowledge.

It's a little light (fluffy? flakey?) ! The imagination of our dear medium leaves a lot to be desired. She is never as good as when it comes to criticizing our world of today. But when it comes to speaking of the future world, it is the minimum service: it will be different, incomprehensible ... but it will correspond to "set standards". Phew, we are assured! But what are these standards? Mystery ...

Our uncultivated medium definitely does not have much imagination ...


Alexis


Saturday, December 3, 2011


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See also:

Sahaj Marg(tm) and Whispers: A new RACE!!
Sahaj Marg(tm) and Whispers: Decryption
Whispers, the New Ideology of Sahaj Marg(tm)
At Sahaj Marg, You Children Belong to the Mission
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Saturday, December 03, 2011

Chari of Sahaj Marg(tm) Has a Problem with Sex!!

Taken and translated from an article by Elodie: "Chari has a Problem with Sex" on her blog in Europe: Pour Que Vive Le Sahaj Marg


December 3, 2011

Chari has a problem with sex


VRAD Sande (Denmark) is the first European Retreat Center of the SRCM and the fourth in the world. Indeed, there already existed two in India and one in the United States.

These retreat centers have been established at the initiative of Chari for a person to be able withdraw in solitude and introspection to meditate for a period of 3 to 30 days.

One therefore understands the prohibition of children attending; one already understands a little less his suggestion that husbands and wives come separately. But that it comes to reserving a month for women and another for men, what can one say? Alexis has already indicated it, I think.

If one believes Chari, the SRCM centers are meeting places where abhyasis (lovers?) pretend to come and to collect themselves, so as to flirt, or is he fixated on sexuality?

After the racism, homophobia and nationalism of Chari denounced by 4d-Don, it seems we can add sexism to the list.

One really has to have a twisted mind, to be a pervert or a sex maniac, so as to imagine that the coexistence of both genders prevents as much one's introspection as the presence of one's children and even more than the cell phone ringtones.

Chari has a real problem with sex.

Elodie




Alexis said:

(see here for french version)

@ Elodie

Be careful, you are contradicting here and sexism is misused.
What you denounce is an obsessive attitude vis-à-vis sexuality, not sexism ...

In his speech, Chari does show a double obsession, vis-à-vis sexuality and money, which deserves a psychoanalytic analysis. In my humble opinion (as a Monday morning psychoanalyst), I would say that there is a poorly repressed desire, at least one morbid jealousy. He is fascinated by easy money and big fortunes, he hides a latent homosexuality or poorly-controlled sexual desires or even a shameful bisexual libido ...

Spirituality has never prevented sexual desires, as the life of Gandhi has clearly demonstrated. Power release all repressed instincts, as our French politician DSK has recently reminded us. And Chari combines the two attributes of power and spirituality!

Not to mention all the rumors circulating since the death of his wife Sulochana ...

However, the attitude of Chari and the SRCM is sexist too! On the one hand by refraining from ever having a female Master ( a Mistress??) of Sahaj Marg, on the other in the discourse on the role of mothers ...

He (Chari) is sexist and obsessed, then!


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