This exchange of e-mails came after my reading Dr. R.K. Gupta's site: Sufi Saints and Sufism and specifically the sections on NaqshMuMRa Stream of Sufis (Lalaji's Lineage in the Naqshbandia Sufi Order), and Sufism in India. Unlike the false statements by the Sahaj Marg Founder, Babuji, who allegedly (according to Chari) claimed that Lalaji had no master, a statement which has been repeated by Chari, now the President of the SRCM (California-1997) a schism of the original SRCM (Shahjahanpur-1945), Dr. Gupta's site claims that Shri Ram Chandra of Fatehgarh, (aka Lalaji) was a disciple of Maulana Fazl Ahmad Khan (Hujur or Hujoor Maharaj), a Master of the Naqshbandia (Silcila) Sufi Order.
Below see some quotes by Lalaji ... (taken from ORKUT Community: Freedom From Sahaj Marg)... compare them to the current philosophy of Sahaj Marg(tm), and the SRCM (California-1997) of Chari. Rememberl... Lalaji had 212 disciples in all and nine preceptors (Babuji was not one of them...see why here) ... Lalaji was a "hands on" Master and not a CEO of a pyramidal Corporation of Meditators operating as the AMWAY of Spirituality ... (one higher up in SRCM (California-1997) is an AMWAY distributor).
This is also confirmed on the NaqshMuMRa Nexus site of Dinaysh Kumar Saxena, grandson of Lalaji and Dean of the NaqshMuMRa Sufi branch of the great Naqshbandia (Silsila) Sufi Order.
To: rkgupta (address blanked out)
Sent: Fri, 22 January, 2010 5:02:31 AM
Subject: correction...
Dear RK Gupta...
I humbly present this sentence from your article at the above link, specifically in the last lines of the section on Maulana Fazl Ahmad Khan (Hujur Maharaj), Master of Shri Ram Chandra of Fatehgarh, (aka Lalaji)...
"The Naqshbandi Sufi way has reached far and wide, in every nook and corner of India and also abroad through the grace of Mahatma Ram Chandraji and efforts made by his disciples, especially Mahatma Chaturbhuj Sahayji and Mahatma Ram Chandraji of Sahajahanpur (founder of Shri Ram Chandra Mission) and his disciple Shri Rajagopalachari."
In light of these two links, your comments and/or an amendment or a correction to this sentence would clarify my (and other's) confusion... Babuji and Chariji are not spreading the "Sufi way" but are "usurping" it, and denigrating and denying the Sufi influence in their Sahaj Marg, claiming it to be a "modified Raja Yoga", and even claiming the the other systems have "breathe their last", to be replaced by "Sahaj Marg", as the only true path (they claim) ...
Do you endorse this statement by Babuji?
Letter from Ram Chandra of Shahjahanpur:
Letter from Ram Chandra of Shahjahanpur:
Epitome of Sahaj Marg, by Dean of NaqshMuMRa, grandson of Lalaji:
Thank you and Blessings on you and your family...
Don..
Dr. R.K. Gupta's reply:
From: rkgupta (address blanked out)
To: don
Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 9:34 PM
Subject: Re: correction...
Dear Mr. don,
Thanks for your mail.
There is a lot of substance in what you have said, as some people have forgotten about the roots. No matter by whatever name one may call it, it is only through the grace of great Masters that they have achieved what they claim to be their own.
Kind Regards,
RKGupta
Dear Mr. don,
Thanks for your mail.
There is a lot of substance in what you have said, as some people have forgotten about the roots. No matter by whatever name one may call it, it is only through the grace of great Masters that they have achieved what they claim to be their own.
Kind Regards,
RKGupta
Don's Reply:
From: don
To: R.K.Gupta
Sent: Fri, 22 January, 2010 1:25:11 PM
Subject: Re: correction...
Mr RK Gupta..
.
I feel that publishing your reply to my queery may help clarify or re-elucidate for my readers, the "direction" and the depth of Lalaji's teachings as opposed to the teachings of some others who call themselves his "followers" and from his "lineage". Some having met Lalaji but a few times and some not at all, they still seem to speak and teach a different teaching, relate a different history and claim his lineage without his permission in "REALITY", except in dreams, even claiming to having knowledge (or hearsay?) that Lalaji had "no master", which we now know to be erroneous thanks to sites like yours.
Do I have your permission to publish your e-mail reply, along with these exchanges, on my blog?
Thanks
Don...
Dr. R.K. Gupta's reply:
From:rkgupta (address blanked out)
To:don
Sent: January 22, 2010 12:06 AM
Subject: Re: correction...
Dear Mr. Don,
Thanks for your mail again.
You may go ahead with publishing my reply on your blog if you so wish.
With Kind Regards,
RKGupta
Quotes by Lalaji (taken according to Rajan-ex abhyasis of SRCM (California-1997) from a current member of Chari's clan!)
See how Lalaji's Sufi path differs from the Sahaj Marg and the attitude of Chari and his disciples!! Remember, Lalaji had 212 disciples in all, so he could give personal attention to all, unlike the "MacDonald's" (fast food) or the Amway (pyramid scheme) Mass marketing, multi-layered approach of SRCM (California-1997) under Chari and his Management team of Businessmen! ... As the Master of SRCM (California-1997) is out developing the business, the preceptors are "transmitting" whatever !! "Divine" they call it!! If Lalaji's method of meditation was as "great" as the great man himself, remember that he did not use the "Sahaj Marg" of Babuji as his "Method" and had nothing to do with the creation of the Shri Ram Chandra Mission !!
My Dear Brothers n Sisters,
I would like to enlighten you about Lalaji's Teachings :
1) Never offer advice unless invited, otherwise it is likely to yield bad results.
2) If you find any fault with anybody, pray for his freedom from it.
3) Don't purchase a new thing if you can manage to carry on with your old belonging.
4) A slave of women and a greedy person could never perform acts of Paramartha.
5) The inner and outer condition of an abyasi have to be the same.
6) Spiritual perfection to be based on three things :
1) Love for the master
2) Satsangh with the master.
3) Obedience to the master.
7) The real sadhana is to balance the mind.
8) Avoid becoming a master and serve as a servant should.
9) Avoid the company of the rich, women and children. (It seems that Sufism is meant for adult men only... Babuji also did not want dogs (animals) and children around the meditation rooms and halls)
10) You have only to remove the doubt whether God and Atma exist or not. If you have freed yourself of this, you need not have a Guru.
11) The search for God and soul is natural and this is imbecility. This fantasy can be cured by another fantasy who is Guru.
12) Atheist is not a person who does not believe in God. Those who harm the physical, mental, intellectual and spiritual existence are atheists. (How does one not harm the physical when one eats and assimilates or transforms the physical? Plants have feelings too, and are said to experience pain, and fear, according to recent research)
Contd.....
Sent: January 22, 2010 12:06 AM
Subject: Re: correction...
Dear Mr. Don,
Thanks for your mail again.
You may go ahead with publishing my reply on your blog if you so wish.
With Kind Regards,
RKGupta
Quotes by Lalaji (taken according to Rajan-ex abhyasis of SRCM (California-1997) from a current member of Chari's clan!)
See how Lalaji's Sufi path differs from the Sahaj Marg and the attitude of Chari and his disciples!! Remember, Lalaji had 212 disciples in all, so he could give personal attention to all, unlike the "MacDonald's" (fast food) or the Amway (pyramid scheme) Mass marketing, multi-layered approach of SRCM (California-1997) under Chari and his Management team of Businessmen! ... As the Master of SRCM (California-1997) is out developing the business, the preceptors are "transmitting" whatever !! "Divine" they call it!! If Lalaji's method of meditation was as "great" as the great man himself, remember that he did not use the "Sahaj Marg" of Babuji as his "Method" and had nothing to do with the creation of the Shri Ram Chandra Mission !!
Lalaji's Birth day celebrations during Feb. 2010
My Dear Brothers n Sisters,
I would like to enlighten you about Lalaji's Teachings :
1) Never offer advice unless invited, otherwise it is likely to yield bad results.
2) If you find any fault with anybody, pray for his freedom from it.
3) Don't purchase a new thing if you can manage to carry on with your old belonging.
4) A slave of women and a greedy person could never perform acts of Paramartha.
5) The inner and outer condition of an abyasi have to be the same.
6) Spiritual perfection to be based on three things :
1) Love for the master
2) Satsangh with the master.
3) Obedience to the master.
7) The real sadhana is to balance the mind.
8) Avoid becoming a master and serve as a servant should.
9) Avoid the company of the rich, women and children. (It seems that Sufism is meant for adult men only... Babuji also did not want dogs (animals) and children around the meditation rooms and halls)
10) You have only to remove the doubt whether God and Atma exist or not. If you have freed yourself of this, you need not have a Guru.
11) The search for God and soul is natural and this is imbecility. This fantasy can be cured by another fantasy who is Guru.
12) Atheist is not a person who does not believe in God. Those who harm the physical, mental, intellectual and spiritual existence are atheists. (How does one not harm the physical when one eats and assimilates or transforms the physical? Plants have feelings too, and are said to experience pain, and fear, according to recent research)
Contd.....
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