Wednesday, March 11, 2009

Clarification from SRCM (Shahjahanpur)

This is a comment I received to the article: Sahaj Marg (SRCM-California-1997) Now Exposed on Youtube!

4d-Don said:

This comment, is un-signed but I presume by the content that it comes from someone from the SRCM (Shahjahanpur), the original group Founded by Babuji in 1945 and presided by Navneet Kumar Saxena, grandson of Babuji. You decide! If I get a signature, (or a confirmation) I will add it to this Publication...

Thank you for the "clarifications" ...


CLARIFICATIONS

I had gone through the websites / discussions and the material which been placed in regard to the addressing of the Sahaj Marg System as cult. I want to clarify that this has wrongly been addressed as cult. The Sahaj Marg system is a very pious, holistic and peace loving system for the spiritual upliftment of the humanity at large propagating the feeling of Universal Brotherhood and Harmony. The system is a Rajayoga system based on the Prahauti system taken up by Mahatma Shri Ram Chandraji Maharaj of Fatehgarh alias Lalajai Maharaj and it has been modified and developed by Mahatma Shri Ram Chandraji Maharaj of Shahjahanpur alias Babuji Maharaj. The literature published and written by Babuji Maharaj shall clarify all the doubts which are in your and in the minds of the persons who have wrongly been following and have joined after 1983 i.e. the Mahasamadhi of Babuji Maharaj.

I would like to clarify one more point about the fight going on in a spiritual society Shri Ram Chandra Mission. It is pertinent to point out to the public at large that it is fight of Dharma and Adharama where on one side it is the parent society with its President Shri Navneet Kumar Saxena who is following the pious system on the guidelines, principles and procedures laid down by Mahatma Shri Ram Chandraji Maharaj alias Babuji Maharaj. The followers of Babuji Maharaj with its President Shri Navneet Kumar Saxena have been working on the established Byelaws of the society and the law of the country. On the other side it has been wrongly followed by the people represented by P. Rajagopalachari and others who have been following the changed system with a different prayer, different system and different method and against the Constitution of Shri Ram Chandra Mission and have been misleading the public at large. P. Rajagopalachari group has been following the system illegally and wrongly and against the Constitution, Byelaws of the society. I would like to mention here that the people who have been laying allegations against the Sahaj Marg system are the persons who were associated with the P. Rajagopalachari group. I would like to clarify that the people who have been writing against the Sahaj Marg system who have not followed the correct system given by Babuji Maharaj. As Babuji Maharaj says that the Master, Mission and Method are key for the following of the Sahaj Marg system. The people who have been writing against the Sahaj system have followed a different guru/Master, Different Mission and Different Method and these people have not tasted the real Sahaj Marg system till date.

I would like to clarify one more thing considering the pioneer case here that the said story published in the newspaper Pioneer in the year 2002 is a false story which was published with a malafide intention and motive to defame the Guru/Master Mahatma Shri Ram Chandraji Maharaj alias Babuji Maharaj, Mission and the Sahaj Marg system. The strict proof and evidence to the same is that the aggrieved person has herself given an Affidavit before the National Human Rights Commission for Women stating that all the allegations against the society, Master/Guru, Method were false and baseless. The statement given by her was given under coercion and influence to defame the society, guru/master, method. The said case has been closed by the National Human Rights Commission for Women after investigation and inquiry vide order dated 29.01.2003. Hence, such allegation and document relied upon are baseless, false and are defaming the society, Guru / Master and the Method and needs to be removed from the Website / discussions with immediate effect with a noting clarifying the reality to the public at large, if you are really fighting for Reality and really portraying reality to the public rather than misguiding..

I would like to clarify one more point that Shri Ram Chandra Mission is a spiritual society and it has nothing to do with the performing of marriages. It is pertinent to mention here that if any marriages are being performed by any person under the banner of the society, the society is not liable for the same since the society aims and objects do not provide for. In fact, in personam any person is liable who is performing the marriages and not the society.

I would further like to clarify that the Guru and Master Mahatma Shri Ram Chandraji Maharaj were always against the performing of rituals as they are hindrances in the upliftment of spiritual field.

I would like to mention that in your website / discussions you have wrongly addressed the prayer given by the almighty and no person has any right to speak of any of the aspect until he/she knows the exact version and meaning of any sermon/prayer enlightened by the almighty for the benefit of the humanity at large. The prayer is not devoid or against any Vedas, Upanishads and Hindu Philosophy. This is for the information of the public at large that there exist person who have done Doctorate in the field of Sahaj Marg and they have done also by being the part of the system and understanding till its depth. Further Shri Ram Chandra Mission and Sahaj Marg system never practises hypnotism among the people but it aims of spreading spirituality by a process of meditation.

I would like to clarify that Shri Ram Chandra Mission has been wrongly depicted by all person who have been raging against the society without having any knowledge about the working of the society Shri Ram Chandra Mission and the Practising of the system named as Sahaj Marg system in its original form and all the allegations in your Sites / discussions have been on the basis of the person who have wrongly propagated the Sahaj Marg system and the society its aims and objectives. The literature of the Founder President has clarified that What is a Transmission and How it can be felt? And in your website / discussions the said aspect has been wrongly understood and explained to the humanity at large which further needs to be rectified and corrected after proper experience with the original system, investigation and inquiry.

I would further like to clarify that the Founder President Mahatma Shri Ram Chandraji Maharaj alias Babuji Maharaj has clarified the concept of Guru in its literature Reality at Dawn by a separate chapter “GURU” published in the year 1956.

I would further clarify the aspect of Faith and the logic behind have been wrongly understood and propagated by your website / discussions who have been following a wrong Sahaj Marg System and not the Original Sahaj Marg system duly established and followed on the principles, guidelines and procedures laid down by Babuji Maharaj only. It is submitted that the said fruit of the Sahaj Marg system can be availed only if the system is being practised rightly like the people represented by its President Shri Navneet Kumar Saxena have been following.

I would further clarify that all the Warning in respect of Shri Ram Chandra Mission are absolutely frivolous, vexatious and wrong and are totally in violation to the established principles, guidelines and procedures laid down by Babuji Maharaj.

I would further like to clarify that the Do’s and Don’t mentioned in the website / discussions are purely imaginary and are personal in nature and has nothing to do with the society, its system Do’s and Don’t.
I would like to clarify that the video shows as to How to become a cult leader pertaining to the society Shri Ram Chandra Mission is not represented by its parent society Shri Ram Chandra Mission with its President Shri Navneet Kumar Saxena and Founder President Mahatma Shri Ram Chandraji Maharaj alias Babuji Maharaj to move and propagate the Sahaj Marg System in such manner and the said videos are purely personal and are being followed by some person who is not following the right system.

I would further like to clarify to humanity at large that the literature pertaining to Babuji Maharaj is purely original and it has nothing to do with any other society or preachers of spirituality.

I would clarify that the movement against the Sahaj Marg system is a humanely wrong one, if you are an ethical person. The movement should be only against the persons who have been wrongly representing the Sahaj Marg system and the system represented through P. Rajagopalachari, Kasturi Chaturvedi, K. C. Narayanan, Raghavendra Rao. Since all these groups formed are the breakaway of the main group with a grieve to become a Master to be known in the society.

I would further clarify that Mr Dinesh Kumar of Fethgarh has been following system which have no linkage with the society Shri Ram Chandra Mission.

DO NOT GO AGAINST THE SAHAJ MARG SYSTEM AND THE PARENT SOCIETY SHRI RAM CHANDRA MISSION SHAHJAHANPUR BUT GO AGAINST THOSE PERSONS WHO HAVE BEEN MISREPRESENTING AND MISLEADING THE PUBLIC AT LARGE WHO ACTUALLY ARE NOT FOLLOWING THE PARENT ORIGINAL SAHAJ MARG SYSTEM AND THE SOCIETY LAID DOWN BY BABUJI MAHARAJ.

3 comments:

Anonymous said...

Hi Anonymous...

Could you sign with any ID or an AKA...If this is an official request, a name attached to the request is needed.


I remember the Pioneer Newspaper allegations and the article.

You say:

The said case has been closed by the National Human Rights Commission for Women after investigation and inquiry vide order dated 29.01.2003.


Could you supply me with a Link or a scan of the document in question, that you could place on your "Web site" and I cant "link" to it. I can't find it anywhere. If you make it available to me, I will publish it at the appropriate places.

I don't think the allegation carried in the court records in the "Pioneer Newspaper" case, is on this blog, but I may be wrong. It is in my "Research Index" with your "Clarifications". It may also be on "Tell Me Truth India" of Navneet's, or on "Freedom to Speak- Power to Speak" of Shashwat's blog.

Point it out to me please ... I will add your document (and/or a link to it) to any file that carries the allegation or a link to it. That way, everyone will know about the "false and retracted allegation" and the "evidence" you present. It will be "EXPOSED" and will raise the Question: WHO did it? Which Group? Why?

Any information about who put up this person to make such allegations? Did she reveal her reasons? Has there been "repercussions" for her?

Thank you for that addition to the REALITY ...

As there two presently two SRCM's, one registered in California, in 1997, and one registered in India by the Founder, in 1945, and the case has still not received a judgement by the Supreme Court of India, we will have to wait and see which group will be called "SRCM" in the future and which will control the Sahaj Marg Spirituality Foundation (SMSF), the Sahaj Marg Research and Teaching Institute (SMRTI), and the Trade-marked name of the method called: Sahaj Marg

Who presently has the publishing rights to all of Babuji's books, printed material, video, audio, etc...? If I buy one of Babuji's books, am I funding "chari's group"??

As you make it "clear", most of the complaints and concerns about SRCM and the Method of Sahaj Marg are all addressed to the Chari faction and the SRCM(California-1997), and not the SRCM (Shahjahanpur-1945).

The court judgement could make our "complaints" and our presence redundant... or cause us to continue our "exposing" of this "divisive" abheration of Babuji's teachings that he deemed "spirituality" and that has now become "SPIRITUALISM" and very "ritualized" spiritualism, with "no philosophy", and materialist, very centered on MONEY and Birthday Parties, in these times of "financial crisis" and transition to new energy sources.


Thank you for your comments...

4d-don

Anonymous said...

Dear Anonymos,
please, answer the questions to the following quotations of your comment.
“....the parent society with its President Shri Navneet Kumar Saxena...” and “....P. Rajagopalachari group has been following the system illegally ...”
Was - and if it was, when was it - the final sentence of the High Court pronounced?

“.....the people who have been laying allegations against the Sahaj Marg system are the persons who were associated with the P. Rajagopalachari group....”
and “...The people who have been writing against the Sahaj system have followed a different guru/Master, Different Mission and Different Methode ...”
Did you come to know all people to be able to make these statements?

“order dated 29.01.2003”:
Quotation is needed.

“It is pertinent to mention here that if any marriages are being performed by any person under the banner of the society, the society is not liable for the same ....” and ...“In fact, in personam any person is liable who is performing the marriages and not the society.”
This isn’t a question of liking or disliking, but a legal matter. There is an until now legal society where marriages are performed and it seems that there aren’t any legal hindrances. And generally the real liabilty is with the engaged couple, wether the wedding is performed by governement, priest or somebody else.

“...I would like to mention that in your website / discussions you have wrongly addressed the prayer given by the almighty and no person has any right to speak of any of the aspect until he/she knows the exact version .....” and
“...On the other side it has been wrongly followed by the people represented by P. Rajagopalachari and others who have been following the changed system with a different prayer, ....”
The questions here are:
1. Where is/was a “wrong version” of the prayer?
2. Is the following the “right version” ?
“O, Master!
Thou art the real goal of human life.
We are yet but slaves of wishes,
Putting bar to our advancement.
Thou art the only God and Power,
To bring us up to that Stage.”
From: http://www.babujimemorial.org/prayer.html [Navneet Kumar Saxena]and
http://www.srcm.org/literature/articles/basics.jsp [Parthasarati Rajagopalachari]

“....This is for the information of the public at large that there exist person who have done Doctorate in the field of Sahaj Marg and they have done also by being the part of the system and understanding till its depth....”
In which faculty (and of which university) was the doctorate done?

“....It is submitted that the said fruit of the Sahaj Marg system can be availed only if the system is being practised rightly like the people represented by its President Shri Navneet Kumar Saxena have been following....”
At least to me, it sounds as if babujimemorial.org wants people make believe they own the Truth, at least, they own the only true method. But moreover, it seems, as if they themselves believe to own the - only - Master (now: Lalaji) and his representative (!) Babuji (See: “Babuji Maharaj as the Successor Representative of Grand Master” at http://www.babujimemorial.org/successor.html, which is a modified www. srcmshahjahnpur.org ).
In the past and until now it is stated "The basic concept is that Babuji Maharaj is and shall continue to remain the only guru till mahapralay (doom's day)" (see: http://www.babujimemorial.org/successor.html and www. srcmshahjahnpur.org)
You allow me to mention that in the past (at www. srcmshahjahnpur.org) Navneet Kumar Saxena resp. his father (incl. photo) were said to be successors. About "succession & spiritual Representative" one could read there: "Shri Ram Chandra Mission was founded by our Revered Master Mahatma Shri ram Chandraji Maharaj of Shahjahanpur
with the blessings of our Aadi Guru Mahatma Shri Ram Chandraji Maharaj of Fatehgarh. The Mission was founded by our Revered Master
as per the directions of Pujya Shri Swami Vivekanandaji...."


Regarding: “...DO NOT GO AGAINST THE SAHAJ MARG SYSTEM AND THE PARENT SOCIETY SHRI RAM CHANDRA MISSION SHAHJAHANPUR ....”
My humble answer: There isn’t any need for anybody to do this, because it is done by yourselves.

Dear 4d-don, regarding: “...Hence, such allegation and document relied upon are baseless, false and are defaming the society, Guru / Master and the Method and needs to be removed from the Website / discussions with immediate effect with a noting clarifying the reality to the public at large, if you are really fighting for Reality and really portraying reality to the public rather than misguiding..”
There are two dots. Is something of the original text missing?

Anonymous said...

Hi anonymous 2...

Hi Anonymous 2...

Could you simply sign with some sort of ID, a number, a sign so we can differentiate the comments and address a reply to "someone" ...

Thanks for the comments ...

I would suggest that this "Clarifications" was sent to "Shashwat" and seems to point out and refer to items, entries and publications that appear solely on his blog(s). A copy seems to have been sent to this blog and to "Tell Me Truth India" blogs (which is the blog that Navneet, the President of SRCM (Shahjahanpur), has been using to communicate with the broader "INFONAUT" community.

About your question... I re-checked the text and the "two dots" after the word "misguiding", is the end of that paragraph...

4d-don...