Sunday, May 18, 2008

Lies from He, the Hookah and I (My Master 2)

Taken from Elodie's Blog, France: The Desperate Abhyasi (Pour que vive le Sahaj Marg)

Lies

From "He, the Hookah and I" (My Master 2)

Once, Babuji Maharaj arrived in Fatehgarh, somewhat later, around 21h, and in winter, 21h is like midnight, you know, and the house was closed, there was no light. He slept on a stone slab, outside - granite. He had nothing to cover himself, he just had one of these cheap pull-overs. I told him: "Babuji, how did you do? He said: "I was in constant remembrance. Nothing affected me. "

And in the morning, Lalaji opened the door, saw his disciple on the slab of stone which was the first step and said:" Ram Chandra, why did you not knock? " I also said:" Yes, Babuji. Why did you not you knock?" He said: "We must not disturb the guru because he does so much, and the poor man when he sits down, should it be that you bother him, just because you're here? " You see, now people come to complain to me: " We are stopped at the door, your door is always closed, your safety blah-blah-blah, " so many such things. He slept on a stone slab! Then he said he did not eat but once a day when he was with Lalaji, and he ate only a chapatti. I told him: "Was it necessary to have a special diet during your sadhana?" He says: "No, it was not that. You see, I knew that my Master was in a difficult financial situation, so I did not want to eat too. I do not eat anything but that one chapatti per day. And I do not eat a second time."

Babuji met Lalaji 3 to 4 times altogether. To read this text, it looks like he has eaten at his place repeatedly. Read it, imagining that he met him at most 3 or 4 times, certainly separated by long periods. The "efforts" of Babuji become ridiculous, the text loses all credibility.

The question now becomes: Who arranged the story? Who lied?
Is it Babuji or is it Chariji?

There is enough to doubt in the so-called messages from the Brighter World of "Whispers", the interconnections between Lalaji and Babuji and more generally in all citations of Babuji by Chariji.

They re-arrange today the old stories for their handover to the masses, in the "flavour of the month", even to the point of distorting them or even invent them.

Elodie

11 comments:

Anonymous said...

does it matter, why r u looking at the what could have been lied,how does it matter how many times babuji met lalaji.
benefit from the system .
don'nt bother about who met n how n when n how many times. if u desire other wise look inside self, clean self have contentment.

Anonymous said...

Hi anonymous...

Because this Gang pretends to teach morality and ethics that spirituality should bring. They are targeting children with this flawed theology (study of God), philosophy, morality and ethics. They also teach that God is Male, Women can't be Gurus, Homosexuality is "un-natural", and other un-spiritual "dogmas" of chari's that should be exposed and challenged if SRCM (California) is to be "tax-exempt" and be a "member" of the UNDPI program at UN.

SRCM (California) is not "democratic", and certainly not "transparent" as demanded by the UNDPI program. They also defame other religions in their VBSE curriculum at their school the Lalaji Memoria Omega School (Why OMEGA?...Is it the END)... They are apocalyptic, relying on OBEDIENCE to the MASTER, the MISSION, and the Method. They are a CULT OF A PERSON, Materialist businessmen, and not of the DIVINE or the SPIRIT as suggested by the word "SPIRT-uality".

The abhyasis on WIKI are now trying to elimininate the "18 yrs of older" Caution of Babuji's for those who study Sahaj Marg and their form of neditation and "transmission".

Protect the children from the "on-line" sites that target and attract children under the guise of "spirituality", such as the ones on ORKUT.

http://www.orkut.com/Community.aspx?cmm=39793415

4d-don...

Anonymous said...

Where is the ethics, when prc himself is instigating childrens aganist the parents.
Poor prc, as he lost his mother at early age, he does not understand the importance of mother.
Thats why he expects every one of us to become zombians - good for nothing.
He is also good at doing other supernatural tricks.
Wat I mean to say, he is a sadist by nature. Just be aware of this old fellow.
Let us all pray that he will die.

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Anonymous said...

Hi Naga Ambarish...

Thanks for your comments and for showing your "id"...

According to Jiddu Krishnamurti, FAITH leads to VIOLENCE..

One can see with SRCM and with the Religious boarding school model how that can happen...We have see it already with Christianity and we don't have to repeat it.

PROTECT the CHILDREN at their age of FANTASY when the Magical and Reality look much the same...According to Babuji, the Founder of Sahaj Marg, that should be 18 yrs old, and he gave the CAUTION...

SAHAJ MARG IS NOT RECOMMENDED FOR THOSE UNDER 18 years OLD...

The abhyasis that follow Chari and the SRCM registered in California in 1997 are trying to hide that and are targeting children as young as 5 yrs old at their schools...with their "Value Based Spiritual Education" (VBSE)... See the link on this site...look at lessons 1-2 and 10....

4d-don

Anonymous said...

Hi 4d-Don

I am the anonymous(let me call myself Adi- not my real name) who you speculated am a follower of Kasturi and trying to become her successor. I had a heary laugh at that.For your information I have never met her - I joined srcm(tm) in the nineties, so have no first hand experience of Kasturi or of the succession disputes that you guys have detailed in your blogs.
Probably Jiddu Krishnamurti did the right thing by dissiolving his organisation saying '...truth is a pathless land..you cannot arrive at it by following a doctrine..nor should organisations be formed to lead people to the truth'

Anonymous said...

Hi adi...

Sorry if I "branded" you wrongly...

I would not want to be associated with this gang either...

You quotes of Jiddu Krishnamurti are accurate and should be our NEW AGE spirituality...what Michael calls "Spiritual Sovereignty"...No more PROXY for the ONE as Vivekananda and even Plato called the CREATIVE... God is so "GOTHIC" and not very elevated compared to the ONE, or the LOGOS of the 5th century Greeks and even John of the Bible, the "preferred" of Christ and the MYSTIC in Covenant of the Gang of TWELVE...(apostles) ;-))

Mea culpa...Mea culpa...Mea culpa...

Don

HookaLova said...

What? You mean the Creator isn't a hooka smoking old man in the clouds?

4d-Don said...
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4d-Don said...

Hi anonymous...

Cute...

The founder Ram Chandra, smoked the hookah, apparently because if he did not have any "attachments" to this world, he would disappear... hence he has to smoke to remain "physical".

I guess we can use that "defense" ro "excuse" for all of our attachments or our addictions...
The logic of "faith-based" adherents (from "adhere" or "stick" as in "STUCK" with "GLUE") and their 'addictions" to the narcissistic "OPIATES OF THE MASSES" and with their "stages of development" of their "SPIRIT", is not very LOFTY...

Look for LOGIC elsewhere than in RELIGIONS and CULTS...

Don

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