Beware of THE SCAM:
Here are some of the "come-ons" or "lures" used by the Pseudo-spiritual Cults of a PERSON:
"the Master just thought about you" ... "the Divine inspired me to contact you" ... "you are special" ... "you are chosen" ... "you are unique" ... "This is your one chance. There won't be another like our Master in 10,000 years" ... "you are chosen to save your people from ?? (hell, perdition, re-incarnation or cycle of birth/death, etc...) "... "our Master is a Special Personality" ... "our system is unique" ... etc., etc., etc.,
Here are a series of E-mails I received from ROSE (see blogs listed below for Rose's past testimonial and expose) some allegedly forwarded from the President of SRCM (California-1997), and some allegedly from Parthasarathi Rajagopalachari (aka Chari, the Master and President of SRCM (California-1997).
Could these "e-mails" be the work of "the anonymous MEDIUM" or some other volunteer "henchmen" using Chari's name and his e-mail address with the express duty of contacting those who have left the "flock" and enticing them back in by pretending to be CHARI? LYING? Are the Sahaj Mart (tm) volunteers being trained to LIE in the name of being on the path to the GREAT MORALITY? (Is this direct (or tele-) marketing??) Notice the "form letter" look of the e-mail. Or are these e-mails really from Chari himself (not his spirit)? Why now? Why Rose? Have all the others who have left Sahaj Marg also been contacted? Do you want to SHARE?
If you are one who has left Sahaj Marg and are being harassed by their volunteers there is a TEMPLATE for a "Cease and Desist" (restraining) order available here.
Ah! The Spiritualist Intrigue in the name of ONE or ONE-ness (UNITY)! Where is the respect of the "individual"? Arranging marriages from photos and deciding to allow one to meditate or not ... from a photo?
Could it be that the "someone" who is sending e-mails to Rose is not up to date. Even though another ( N.S. Nagaraja) has been appointed as the "zone-in-charge" for Europe, they are still sending a copy of Rose's e-mail to AK Bhatter (see below). This is the same AK Bhatter who was chosen by Chari (and allegedly Babuji from the "Brighter World") to be the successor of Chari. He has since resigned ( see here for the whole TRUE story ) ... (hmmm)
You (the reader) decide .... (for continuity, begin reading at end of file, last e-mails first... and read them in reverse order)
P.S. I rewrote the headers as the "edit points" were giving me problems in Blogger! I have the e-mails that were sent to me by Rose. If anyone wants to verify their authenticity (with the IPS info and other stats), send me an e-mail address! ... (I am obviously not a techie! )
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Rose's e-mails (4) to 4d-don:
Final Chapter
From: Rose (e-mail)
Sent: June 3, 2010 1:50:33 PM
To: 4d-don (email)
From: Rose (e-mail)
Sent: June 3, 2010 1:50:33 PM
To: 4d-don (email)
Dear Don
Yesterday my mum found out that Chari had emailed me so she sent him an email. My mum said, very politely, that she wanted him to stop contacting me, stop suggesting i join Sahaj Marg and stop giving me advice on potential husbands. Below is the reply from him:
Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 08:25:29 +0530
Subject: Rose's Mum
From: prajagopalachari@srcm.org
To: Mrs. Rose's Mum (e-mail)
CC: akbhatter@srcm.org
Subject: Rose's Mum
From: prajagopalachari@srcm.org
To: Mrs. Rose's Mum (e-mail)
CC: akbhatter@srcm.org
Chennai, Thursday 3 June 2010 8:24:52 AM
Dear sister,
I have not interfered in anyone’s life, nor shall I do so now. May her destiny be guided by you all. Love.
With Love and Master's Blessings
Affectionately,
Parthasarathi
So basically he is denying that he interfered.....when he must know that i have shown her the emails he sent me. And thats the end of it i have not heard anything since.
This "soap opera" is so entertaining. I hope this is the end of the communications from them now.
Rose
From: Rose (e-mail)
Sent: June 2, 2010 10:53:39 AM
To: 4d-Don (e-mail)
Dear Don
I hope you find these emails interesting-it just shows the madness of the whole thing. Firstly he thinks he has the power to look at a photo of me and tell me i should not meditate, then he looks at a picture of a man and tells me he is not right for me then! Who the hell does he think he is????!!!! I will forward the rest of the messages when i have had a final reply from him. He is a dangerous, deluded, pshycotic old man who is destroying sahaj marg from the inside and im so glad i got out while i had the chance!
Rose
From: Rose (e-mail)
Sent: June 2, 2010 10:26:21 AM
To: 4d-Don (e-mail)
Subject: The Madness of King Chari
Dear Don
A week ago i received a strange email from Chari.Bearing in mind i have not heard anytihng from anyone in sahaj marg for months now i was a bit suspicous.I thought it was strange so i played the doting ex abhiyasi in order to try and find out what exactly he wanted. It made me feel sick doing it but i know how his mind works-i made out he was great and i thought about him all the time.
Please feel free to turn this into an article for your blog but please use a psuedonym as before-i have sent a final email to him so please dont publish it until i have received a reply from that
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Its absolutely ridiculous-i think the old man has finally gone senile.
I will forward the emails to you seperately.
Rose
From: Rose (e-mail)
Sent: June 2, 2010 9:22:09 AM
To: 4d-Don (e-mail)
Hi Don
I have been contacted by Chari last week I will forward the email to you when I am home later-I think they are all actually mad!!! I played upto his email a bit and I'll write up the story later-feel free to publish it.
Rose
Sent from my iPhone
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And now, the "prickly e-mail story" .... (read in reverse order, starting at the end of the file)
Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 08:25:29 +0530
Subject: Rose's Mum
From: prajagopalachari@srcm.org
To: Mrs. Rose's Mum (e-mail)
CC: akbhatter@srcm.org
Chennai, Thursday 3 June 2010 8:24:52 AM
Dear sister,
I have not interfered in anyone’s life, nor shall I do so now. May her destiny be guided by you all. Love.
With Love and Master's Blessings
Affectionately,
Parthasarathi
From: Rose's Mum (e-mail)
Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2010 18:11:40 +0000
To: ! !Master prajagopalachari@srcm.org, =AKB akbhatter@srcm.org,
info@srcm.org
Dear Mr Rajagopalachari
My daughter confessed to me a few minutes ago that she had received an email from you last week and that you had been conversing back and forth since then.
I am writing to request that you stop this and advise her not to contact you anymore.
I do not want her to be dragged back into sahaj marg. I respect your organisation and everyone in it but i think that its not the right path for her.
Respectfully
Love and blessings to you and your family
Rose's Mum
From: Parthasarathi Rajagopalachari prajagopalachari@srcm.org
Date: Mon, May 31, 2010 at 2:08 AM
Subject: Rose; Sahaj Marg
To: Rose (e-mail)
Chennai, Monday 31 May 2010 6:37:43 AM
Dear Sister,
I am sorry to say that looking at the picture you have sent me does not give me any signal in my heart. I pray for you. Love to all.
With Love and Master's blessings
Affectionately,
Parthasarathi
From: Rose (e-mail)
Sent: Sun, 30 May 2010 16:35:34 + 0100
Subject: Re Rose: Sahaj Marg
To: Parthasarathi Rajagopalachari prajagopalachari@srcm.org
Dear Master
One year is such a long time! This news makes me feel sad but you know what is best for me best and of course I will obey your decision without question.
Master, my mum is keen for me to be married soon, and I have sent you a picture of a boy I have met on Shaadi.com, can you look at it and see if you think it is a good match for me?
If you do not think it would be a good match, do you have any suggestions of any suitable match for me Master?
Respectfully
Your daughter
Rose
*** Message delivered to Rev. Master***
Message forwarded:
From: SRCM President president@srcm.org
Date: Sun, May 30, 2010 at 4:38 PM
Subject: Rose: Sahaj Marg
To: Rose (e-mail)
On 30 May 2010, at 13:44, Parthasarathi Rajagopalachari prajagopalachari@srcm.org wrote:
Chennai, Sunday 30 May 2010 6:13:39 PM
Dear Sister,
Thank you for the photographs. Your commencing the meditation will have to wait till we meet sometime, preferably after one year. Love to all.
With Love and Master's blessings
Affectionately,
Parthasarathi
From: Rose (e-mail)
Date: Sun, 30 May 2010 08:52:28 +0100
Subject: Re: Rose: Sahaj Marg
To: Parthasarathi Rajagopalachari prajagopalachari@srcm.org
Dear Master
I have attached 3 recent photos for you i hope they are suitable?
Master, my mum is trying to find a husband for me please pray that this will happen very soon.
All my friends are married and have children and i want this too.
Your daughter
Rose
*** Message delivered to Rev. Master***
On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 2:14 AM, Parthasarathi Rajagopalachari prajagopalachari@srcm.org wrote:
Chennai, Sunday 30 May 2010 6:43:54 AM
Dear sister,
Can you please mail me a current photograph of yours to help me evaluate your condition. Love to all.
With Love and Master's Blessings
Affectionately,
Parthasarathi
From: Rose (e-mail)
Date: Sat, 29 May 2010 14:20:13 +0100
To: !! Master prajagopalachari@srcm.org
Subject: Re: Rose: Sahaj Marg
Dear Master
In January you said i should not meditate until you have seen me in person, should I still continue in contacting the prefect you mentioned?
Rose
*** Message delivered to Rev. Master***
On Sat, May 29, 2010 at 2:14 PM,
Parthasarathi Rajagopalachari prajagopalachari@srcm.org wrote:
Chennai, Saturday 29 May 2010 6:42:15 PM
Dear Sister,
It will certainly be of immense spiritual good. To start meditation, please contact one of our Prefect in the UK. You may contact the undermentioned for details about the one nearest to you.
Mrs. Shona MacIver Wasson
shonabwasson@gmail.com
http://shonabwasson@gmail.com
Love to all.
With Love and Master's blessings
Affectionately,
Parthasarathi
On 5/29/10, Rose (e-mail) wrote:
Dear Master
You wrote me the other day and requested that I consider joining Sahaj Marg and you said you thought it would be very good for me. If you think it is something that is good for me, then of course I will obey you.
Please advise me on how to proceed with this?
With Love from your daughter
Rose
*** Message delivered to Rev. Master***
On 26 May 2010, at 02:54, Parthasarathi Rajagopalachari prajagopalachari@srcm.org
Chennai, Wednesday 26 May 2010 7:23:18 AM
Dear Sister,
I just thought of writing you since I remembered you this morning. What about Sahaj Marg? Have you thought about this? It would be very good for you. I request you to consider this.
Love to all.
With Love and Master's blessings
Affectionately,
Parthasarathi
See also:
Testimonial of Ex-fiancee of abhyasi!!! Big Changes coming at SRCM(California-1997) ?
Rose's Testimonial Part 2! Sahaj Marg At Its Best!
Would The Real Sahaj Marg Medium Please Stand Up!!
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10 comments:
Since writing my FACTUAL stories on this blog i have discovered that my ex has been reading them and is not happy even though I kept names anonymous and have never and will never reveal his name out of respect for him.
Since then i have been accused of making up fake email addresses,emailing/calling/stalking his family and friends when i have never know their email addresses and interfering with his travel plans. Also i have apparently made up a fake name "manisha" and pretended i was a medium and emailed all sorts of people with messages from Babuji.
To clarify:I do not believe in mediums, i work full time and most weekends and i dont have time to make up email addresses and stories and email lots of different people fake messages from beyond.
I did not write my story as a personal attack on anyone i just wrote it as i live in the western world where freedom of speech is a right everyone has. I bear no ill feeling towards my ex his family or friends in fact i thank him for saving me from sahaj marg by introducing me to catherine.
I have now experienced first hand threatening manner in which this cult works and im so happy im not a part of it anymore :)
Rose
Hi Rose ...
Interesting that Chari, having "trade marked" (in the USA) the Sahaj Marg (tm) invented by Babuji as part of his SRCM (Shahjahanpur-1945) Mission, that now Chari's "serfs", the abhyasis of Sahaj Marg (tm), want to control the spirit of Babuji. They seem to think that any MEDIUM who wants to make money or gain influence over the gullible (them), without first asking "permission" from CHARI or his MISSION can be stopped from doing so ...
Unfortunately, the TRADE MARKS from the 4-dimensions of Planet Earth do not carry any LEGAL authority in the realm of SPIRIT.
Any spiritualist MEDIUM can profiteer from Sahaj Marg much as Chari has done with Babuji's inventions: SRCM and Sahaj Marg. And there is nothing they can do about it. So they will attempt to "blame" one another for doing what Catherine, and/or any other MEDIUM is doing for them LEGALLY but without any "authority" ...
The SCAM of SPIRITUALISM is for the benefit of the MEDIUM and her earthy "boss" ... She and Chari (and his "inner circle) are the ones who profiteer from the "trade marked" messages of the "spirits" (Babuji, Lalaji, Chari's mother, Chari's wife, the "Beings of Light", the egregore, and other "elevated spirits") ...
IT IS A spiritualist SCAM!! ... and an real SHAM!!
Don ...
P.S. Just wait a second... I'm just getting a message from Babuji ... hmmmm ... "Babuji agrees with US" ... Maybe we can get a "following" and travel around the world, and be adored on a throne like CHARI!! Oh! If we only had the "gall"!! ... and/or the lack of "morality"!!
;-))
Wow, reading through these emails I am not sure if many of them are from Chari. I mean, the language is kind of hokey. But who knows. I for one, respect the man for the practice of raja yoga that he teaches. Everything else around it is not interesting to me. However, with so much mudslinging going on and so much gossip around its hard to know what to take seriously.
Heres what I do know-
1. The Whispers thing seriously gets on my nerves. I dont know how they expect anyone to believe it but I read them everyday when they reach my inbox and more than praising Chariji, the 'Babuji' in these messages is busy praising the medium. Whatever. Its nonsense.
2. Even if it IS divinely inspired, they are extremely boring messages. I dont see how any of these could uplift humanity or anything remotely spiritual.
3. Im all for suspension of disbelief etc but increasingly I find the Mission full of whackjobs and loonies. This was definitely not the case in the mid-90s for example (I dont see any of them anymore in the Mission).
4. I believe that the practice of Sahaj Marg itself is quite revolutionary even if you dont believe in the Master concept. Only because raja yoga itself is a good thing. So I would say, stick with the method and forget about everything else. Thats what I think anyway.
Thoughts?
Without getting into a detailed discussion about authenticity of the emails sent by Chari, we decided to put-up the proof, and here it is:-
Emails from Chari was sent from Chennai, using IP address 122.165.60.163 time at which this IP was in use was 2010-06-09 02:06.
I have appended the details retrieved from email tracer of the full header:-
IP address [?]: 122.165.60.163 [Whois]
IP address country: ip address flag India
IP address state: Tamil Nadu
IP address city: Madras
IP address latitude: 13.0833
IP address longitude: 80.2833
ISP of this IP [?]: Bharti Broadband
Organization: Bharti Broadband
Host of this IP: [?]: ABTS-TN-Static-163.60.165.122.airtelbroadband.in [Whois]
Local Time of this IP country: 2010-06-09 02:06
Hi anonymous...
I am also suspicious ... but the headers info seems to point to "Chari's e-mail". It is probably from a zealous but "neophyte" volunteer whose duty is to try and contact those who left the "gang", or one of the "MEDIUMS" who are close enough to Chari to use his e-mail ... and probably have "authorization" ... but to delay the meditation for ROSE, for "one year" is suspicious and to use Photographs to evaluate a person's condition, is not exactly "raja yoga" ... It sounds like "Catherine", the alleged weirdo Medium who met Rose in India. And it looks like a "form letter" with the exact ending on every e-mail ...
By the way, the Raja Yoga of Sahaj Marg is one which begins at step #7 of the original "eightfold" path, according to the information material on the Sahaj Marg "site"...
One could argue that calling Sahaj Marg a "raja yoga", is opportunistic and that it can be called a "butchery" of the Raja Yoga of Patanjali. It is like saying that Lalaji is the "first guru" of Sahaj Marg ... a blatant lie!! In Babuji's dreams only!
1. There is a difference between Spiritualism (Mediums, seances, spirits, etc..) and SPIRITUALITY!! One (the latter) can be REALITY but one (the former) is MYTH and SCAM and will not become REALITY by having more people "believe" the MYTH (example: Santa Claus or a MALE GOD!!) ...
2. Chari tries to claim that the message is in the "rhythm" or the "TONE" and not in the CONTENT... that is such a "cop-out" and a MYTH ... This is NEW AGE in SPADES ... call Shirley MacLean ... or HOUDINI the 19th century escape artist and Ghost Buster ... they make it up as they go along... no THOUGHTS or Plan!!
3. You mean before the "philosophers" and the "thinkers" started leaving, and the MARGA of Babuji became SPIRITUALISM ... The Patients (spiritualists) are now taking over the (Psychiatric) Hospital ... Chari is responsible for recruiting among the "mental health" professionals. When numbers (quantity) become more important than "quality" we have the shift from Babuji to Chari ... It's MARKETING!
Many Psy's become psy's as a way of dealing with their own demons ... egregores are not "raja yoga" also... Do you Pray for a "favourable egregore" as Chari mentionned? Do you believe that you "erase your samskaras" by repeating the "ridiculous" Whispers "seven or eight times" as Chari suggested?? That is not Raja Yoga also ...
4. If one is to stick with Raja Yoga, one can't take out what makes Raja Yoga an "efficacious" systems: tapas, yamas etc.. (from Step #1 to Step # 6... read them and live by them and you will not be able to remain in Sahaj Marg!!)... That is what makes Raja Yoga a "way of LIFE" and not a "co-dependence" with a Master or a METHOD or a MISSION ... With Sahaj Marg, it is like: My country right or wrong!! That is not good enough for SPIRITUALITY, and certainly not for the "EIGHTFOLD" or "octave" RAJA YOGA ...
To be a slave to a Flag, a Country, a Mission, a Political or businessmen's GROUP, specially when the GROUP is Sexist (women can't be Masters), homophobic ("gay rights" are a waste of "human rights" legislation),
and with nationalist and Capitalist tendencies at home, but with SOCIALIST (charity, non-profit) tendencies in the "invaded" markets (countries), is not RAJA YOGA ...
The Indian Denim Baron who is part owner of SMSF (Foundation) has as his target: conquering 10% of the USA Blue Jean Market ... Are you being encouraged to "wear" Blue Jeans as part of Sahaj Marg "spirituality"? Does Sahaj Marg create a "market" for off-shore products? Chari has been photographed wearing blue jeans after he received a "million dollar" donation !! The guru as a "commercial" entity!! What do you follow, a Super guru or Super-model?
That's the implementation of the Philosophy of the DIASPORA of the Chamber of Commerce of India. Religion as the "fifth column" for Political and economic invasion. We (European Christians) should know, we (our forefathers) did the same in the 14th century.
My old dad (a healer) used to say: Find the cures for your ills around youself. Where grows the poison, also grows the antidote.
That is very "aboriginal" spirituality and is in accord with Raja Yoga ... I think... therefore I ...
Thanks for your comments ...
Don ...
I'm so FED UP of Sahaj Marg and the "fake act" it puts on to try and entice people. You read the literature on the website and it all seems lovely but if dare to speak out in public against them or reveal so called "divine secrets" they will reveal their true nature.
Even today we have received revengeful viscious emails from an angry abhiyasi which we are just laughing off but it shows us the true nature of the system: if you dare to voice an opinion or speak up about something you feel is a bit strange about the organisation then be prepared for their revenge. I'm pretty sure Chari does not know how his devoted abhyasis are taking revenge but I don't think he would advocate it??????
If you do get revengeful emails do what we are doing: IGNORE THEM do not respond and keep them as "evidence" of the utter maddness and hypocrisy of this system!
*****anonymous*****
I am also one of those who has had his ex continuously disrespect my person, our family, culture, country, since my ex has been involved with this group. It can only be called hatred or rancor. It is not LOVE or spirituality or divine, it not even respect for the self (hers and mine and specially the kids).
It seems that she is part of a "divide and conquer" philosophy that did not exist prior to Sahaj Marg, and did not originate with her but seems to have been implanted into her mind.
There is some manipulation in this group and all should be made aware.
I would recognize LOVE and would appreciate it. This is not even empathy or sympathy.
What the world needs now, is love, sweet love.
I will ignore her and get her out of my life.
TIRED of HATE!
Both our exes are acting hypocritically as they are part of a group that claims it promotes LOVE but they act with HATE. But it's not all their fault it's a result of brainwashing. "obedience to master" is continually preached to them and they worry if they don't do as they are asked they will be punished or their spiritual development will be affected. They may consider their master to be chari/catherine/other medium but I'm sure every action that occurs, every message that is sent is under their guidance. So my ex can keep sending email after email full of lies to my family but it won't affect me in the slightest it actually makes me pity him. If he has nothing better to do than sit in a different continent emailing lie after lie it shows how UNspiritual and UNloving alot of members of this group can be! THANK GOD I was saved from becoming a brainwashed zombie :)
****anonymous****
In response to delaying the meditation for Rose for one year - that sounds exactly like Chari.
This way he doesn't have to deal with anyone's poor behavior. Someone said, whoever is "left standing" wins! Isn't that one of the unwritten rules of the Sahaj Marg game? (Doesn't the person left, get promoted? Or maybe a few kind words from the old man.)
Also, reading someone's condition from a photo sounds just like what he would do. It's mentioned in their books. If a preceptor feels unsure about introducing a person to the system, it's suggested that they send him a photograph so he can read the person's condition.
I also agree with the people who commented about the unloving behavior - particularly if you openly disagree or try to talk about your feelings. They settle these kinds of things on the astral plane!
It is even possible to be kicked out of the group. Most likely, Chari will take the preceptor's side, without talking to everyone involved. He suggests waiting a year, "or until he says." How does this help? Maybe he is "working on the situation on the astral plane!"
My heart goes out to Rose - to all the people who have suffered.
My heart goes out to all the (innocent) people who think they've discovered the fast track to self realization.
You don't need a middle-man...seek truth...be free...live your life...practice kindness!
--Triple Gem
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