Taken and translated from an article by Claude, on Elodie's blog in Europe: Pour Que Vive Le Sahaj Marg.
Comments by 4d-Don are in "red italics"
Claude Said:
October 27, 2010
The Ultimate Character
Silence is the language of god, anything else than silence is profane (secular) and speech is vulgar. Religion is at the foundation of everything that is bad. So says Chari in his speech on the ultimate character.
He would do well to be silent, he is also profane and vulgar, I might add pretentious to say that Sahaj Marg(tm) is not a religion. Meditation, cleaning, obedience are all as much rituals (in Sahaj Marg(tm), as anywhere else, in other religions.
It ends with a beauty, a pearl: God is NOTHING-ness, it leaves one to ponder.
Claude
Exerpts from : The Ultimate Character
Address to the Seminar for Character Development for the Functionaries in India, 9th October 2010, Chennai, India
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with the Sahaj Marg tradition, the Sahaj Marg teaching of my Masters that silence is the language of God, anything other than silence becomes something of a profane nature. (not only is ONE (God) silent (no sound, words, ideas, inspiration, etc...), IT also has no "FORM" (matter, energy, light (not even "imagined" light as in Sahaj Marg(tm)). IT is not contained or restricted in TIME or PLACE (IT is ETERNAL-ly in the PRESENT or NOW (not "infinity" which is a concept of TIME which has a beginning (Creation, Big Bang, stir, etc..) but no end, or x=x+1 and/or x=x-1) ONE is not MALE!! And ONE does not restrict women from being MASTERS !
(...) I believe, even in what you call japa [repetition of a mantra], the silent one is the most effective. (Do you know that for a "fact" or is this just another case of neophytes and their "book knowledge"? They will say anything to sell the product?) The one in which the lips move without sound coming out is a little less effective, and the one spoken out loud like in temples and other institutions of prayer is really to be considered vulgar — vulgar, not in the sense of what we understand today as sexual vulgarity or that sort of thing, but vulgar means from the high to the lowest.
(…) religion is at the root of all evil in India (OK!! And Sahaj Marg(tm) is a "new religion" ... hence ??? )
(...). Today’s religion is intellect, today’s politics is intellect, and the intellect is all based on selfishness (svaartha). (try "emotional" ... and we'll agree with you ... Intellectuals don't agree with you! Even Religion and Spiritualist groups are "emotional" !!)
(…) We are asked to love God. (not by GOD! ... God does not need anything. LOVE ONE ANOTHER!!)
There is no concept of worship in Sahaj Marg. (lol lol lol or "love" eh? Just "obedience" to the point of killling one's mother?? No worship for God but for the GURU? Adulation and idolatry!! Look at the "idols" around your Ashrams) Please understand Sahaj Marg carefully, faithfully, with all your focus on the truth of what Sahaj Marg has revealed to us: impeccable truths, truths beyond what the Vedas have given us, beyond what religion can ever give us, because religions don’t give us the truth. (And Sahaj Marg (tm) or Chari teaches the children that flawed theology that: "God is male and that nature is female", and that "women can't be Masters"... and that homosexuality is "un-natural"!! )
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You have to be evolved out of this caste, out of the religion which has this caste, out of this society which has this religion, and out of this world which has these societies. That is liberation. (and the abhyasis have jumped into another "caste, religion, society ... no LIBERATION at all... you are not liberated simply because you are "Indian" or "Brahmin"!! Liberate yourself (from the material) before you preach LIBERATION...) That is the aim of spiritual life — the first aim is liberation. Babuji said it is the lowest; don’t ennoble it to such an extent just because it was difficult or almost impossible in the past. It is the least.
(...) Remember that by definition in Sahaj Marg, God is nothingness. It is not correct to say there is nothing, it is of the nature of nothingness: no wisdom, no intellect, no knowledge, no wealth, no power (no Sahaj Marg(tm)... no new RELIGION... no new "gang" or society...) )
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So you are not asked to examine yourself, or do this or do that. Meditate, remove everything progressively, and then you will find that from a character, with which I was born, if my sadhana is perfect, regular, in accordance with the principles of the Ten Maxims, I will find I am a soul which has no character. (Is this called: Soul-ism or Spirituality... Soul is another invention of Religion and its SPIRITUALISM!! BE SPIRIT NOW!! )
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So between me and my goal, between my progress of being born with an ego to being a soul without an ego, nothing stands as a hindrance except my ego. So we have to work on that. That is what the cleaning is for." (and the cleaning works, they claim ... see how "ego-less" they all are.... and even Chari says that his "preceptors and abhyasis" are arrogant ... Does that not also apply to one who does battle and divides his own "sheep" so as to "CONTROL" the Material?? Chari!! )
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4d-Don said:
Hello Claude and all...
And there's more ... on their site ...
http://www.sahajmarg.org/audio/talks/oct-12-2010-chennai
Chari, in his speech of Oct. 12, 2010 to the prefects and functionaries (at 7:40 of the speech), points (with three fingers pointing at himself) a finger at the Catholic Pope, who apparently has offered a special prayer for the poor who are suffering from AIDS ... Chari called it "moral degradation" ... because the Pope did not offer prayers for those suffering from other diseases (at this particular time) ... one can surmise that he did at other times... That is after all what they do: PRAY! And for everything!
And Sahaj Marg (tm) them, they pray for peace so as to coat themselves with the flag of the United Nations (see: http://4d-don.blogspot.com/2010/06/srcm-california-1997-and-undpi.html ) and to thus gain a bit of credibility with people who do not know them ... while declaring war on their own "Ancient prefects and preceptors" who did not want to serve Chari ...
And in the "special prayer" for peace, there is no mention of floods, earthquakes, fires, etc. ... etc. ..., for them it is a sign of "holiness" ... or of Spirituality!
The religious hypocrites! ... They're all the same!
The hypocrites, these large "dry" faces , they will burn well in (their) hell! ;-)) (Their SHAME!)
Chari then sets his sites on the "gays" again, referring to them (marriages) and comparing sex between consenting adults of the same gender as bestiality, and he called it: "animism" ... LOL LOL (look at the definition of the words)
One would have to be a bit dense to follow these spiritualists ... with their (anonymous) Mediums, and their messages from heaven ...
Quacks! (charlatans ... Lemming ALERT!! Watch out for that "cliff"!! )
Don ...
Wednesday, October 27, 2010
Short exerpt of Chari's Speech of Oct. 12, 2010:
http://www.sahajmarg.org/audio/talks/oct-12-2010-chennai
"...People like Bill Gates, he is willing to give billions, for AIDS. Even the pope, when Babuji Maharaj and I were [unintelligible] (in the Vatican?) some years ago, said a special prayer for AIDS sufferers. This shows our moral degradation, you see. They don't want the tuberculosis patients, paralytic patients, heart patients..., the idea being that these people are rich enough to afford their own cure.
THAT is moral degradation, when a pope says [Chari chuckles] a special prayer [chuckles again].
So you see, it is from below to the top or the other way down ... when churches condone you know, same-sex marriages, perform same-sex marriages. Soon a day will come when perhaps in ... or ... [unintelligible place names] (in ?? or in Barcelona or something like that?) you'll find a man marrying a cow."
If Chari's fictional "a man" is a homosexual , meaning: practicing consentual sex with the same gender (also? ... in many cases), but not sex with different species or animals, then this particular homosexual (and "un-natural" man, according to Chari) man, if he is also into "bestiality", he may want to marry a "bull", not a cow. Is that worse?? As long as it's not a "slava bull" (dark complexion), eh ? ;-))
One can hardly call that "consentual sex". But Chari's whole premise is "bull-crap" anyway ... to be gay or homosexual does not mean to be into "bestiality" or any other deviancy.
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Thursday, October 28, 2010
Thursday, October 21, 2010
Is Sahaj Marg(tm)'s Medium Named: Catherine, Cheryl (Chérie), Or ...?
Hi all...
I just received an e-mail which claims that Sahaj Marg(tm)'s Medium is not named: Catherine but is actually called: Cheryl ... or in French: Chérie.
I would like some comments and some feedback on this ... Do any of you know "for sure" what the real name of the "anonymous French Lady Medium" is?
We know it is a "she", and that "she" is "not a professional", because Chari says so on his "An Invitation" :
A medium, who is not a professional, has passed on these messages to me after my Master gave orders that they be made available to me. She is a sister-abhyasi of the Sahaj Marg system of spiritual practice. I have recorded messages from four sources, all of them beloved to me, and all beyond question.
See also: The Sahaj Marg Bible? ... , According to Whom??
Do you know the full name of the Sahaj Marg(tm) Medium ??
An altered copy of the Request:
From: Priya (not real name)
Date: October 21, 2010 4:36:47 AM
To: 4d-don
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I just received an e-mail which claims that Sahaj Marg(tm)'s Medium is not named: Catherine but is actually called: Cheryl ... or in French: Chérie.
I would like some comments and some feedback on this ... Do any of you know "for sure" what the real name of the "anonymous French Lady Medium" is?
We know it is a "she", and that "she" is "not a professional", because Chari says so on his "An Invitation" :
A medium, who is not a professional, has passed on these messages to me after my Master gave orders that they be made available to me. She is a sister-abhyasi of the Sahaj Marg system of spiritual practice. I have recorded messages from four sources, all of them beloved to me, and all beyond question.
See also: The Sahaj Marg Bible? ... , According to Whom??
Do you know the full name of the Sahaj Marg(tm) Medium ??
An altered copy of the Request:
From: Priya (not real name)
Date: October 21, 2010 4:36:47 AM
To: 4d-don
Hi Don
I have had some information that the medium who received
messages for "whispers" is a French women called Cheryl
(cherie in French). I remember when a story about
Catherine was on your blog someone commented that they
knew the medium who received the messages and it wasn't
"Catherine". I don't know how credible my source is but
one way of finding out is putting a short statement on
your blog asking if anyone knows this is true?
If it is true then I know my source is credible and
will have more information for you. If not I can
disregard all the information.
But I wouldn't want my name of (name blanked out) to
be associated with the story could it be anonymous?
Priya (not real name)
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Monday, October 18, 2010
About A.P. Durai, Secretary of SRCM (California-1997)
Taken and translated from a comment by Alexis on Elodie's blog in Europe: Pour Que Vive Le Sahaj Marg.
Comments and insertions by 4d-Don are in "red italics"
Alexis Said:
Who is A.P. Durai?
Retired officer of the IPS (Indian Police Service), he was Director of the National Police Academy (NPA). (see below for clarification) This is one of the most essential characters of the SRCM (California-1997), Chari's secretary or assistant-secretary at different times, he is also one of Chari's handymen, including of his most menial tasks, thanks to the many contacts he maintains in the forces of Law and Order. His role was pivotal in the occupation by force of the ashrams held by other opposing clans (Babuji's family and older prefects and preceptors appointed by, and loyal to Babuji. See Newspaper articles below)
Chari speaks much of the keys to the success of spirituality according to the method of Sahaj Marg, rarely of individual benefits that can be drawn by the abhyasi, and never of the collective benefits for the world and society. AP Durai, if indeed he is the author of this article, breaks the silence in an intelligent mix where confusion and contradictions abound.
Once these precautions are taken, let us go to the text itself, but keeping in mind that A.P. Durai, to which it is attributed may not be the true author.
The number of marriages performed by Chari cited in the text argues for a date of the writing to be between 2007 and 2010, and is then fairly recent. If the publicity for this text should grow, we would be right to question the pretentions of A.P. Durai to the position of Chari's successor, especially today when the wildest rumors abound on the (soon) disappearance of Chari.
Society will change only when individuals have changed.
Individual change - understand: the work on one's self, on one's character, through the Sahaj Marg meditation - is paramount. When it reaches a certain critical mass, it will overflow onto society and into the world in general, but not before.
The work itself provides considerable individual benefits, if one believes A.P. Durai, and this in all areas of life. But his examples are all strangely related to one's professional life and to one's effectiveness in the workplace. Sahaj Marg ™ as a development technique and personal effectiveness is a seller ... terribly bank-able!
Especially when the example is Chari himself. He allegedly completed his regular day's work in just two to three hours, and spent the rest of his time on the work of the Mission, and this did not prevent him from progressing. Understand then, that with SM one can work 2-3 hours, bumming the rest of the time and still climb in the workplace hierarchy. So it is an effective and appealing argument ...
But one must obey the Master and the Ultimate (the Divine), both beautifully confused by Durai into a single entity. One should not have to compromise on one's spiritual values! Durai, Chari's handyman, is well placed to speak ... He adds that Chari was no longer able to progress (in the hierarchy) during his last six years working at TTK, so as to avoid compromising and renouncing his moral values and his ethics. The years in question is the period from 1979 to 1985, during which time, Chari had to be almost full time at the SRCM and very often travel the world ...
For the world to really change, the abhyasis must obey the Master and do serious work on their own character. Chari began the work by celebrating over 2000 mixed marriages, where he mixed the colors, castes, ethnicities, etc.. to prepare for the Man of Tomorrow.
But to really change the world, Chari can not do everything and it is only through the abhyasis that society will evolve. Indirectly, it is understood that if the present world situation, IMPLIED to be disastrous, does not change, the abhyasis should only blame themselves. Chari Almighty, coincident with the Divine, is not responsible. It's the fault of the abhyasis and it is their own responsibility!... because they are not numerous enough or not effective enough in their work on themselves ...
And here we find the "critical mass" mentioned by Babuji. When the number of abhyasis of Sahaj Marg has reached a certain threshold (not defined), the world will "stumble" into spirituality. That was the justification for proselytizing according to Babuji, as it is still today if we are to believe Durai, although Chari did not mention it.
Tues, October 19, 11:29:00 AM
Durai's Retirement ?
From: Outlook India.com
The Price of Protection, K.S. Narayanan
http://www.outlookindia.com/article.aspx?203348
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Politicians do not take kindly to withdrawal of security. A.P. Durai, DGP, Karnataka, triggered a debate on the wasteful expenditure incurred by the state on Prime Minister H.D. Deve Gowda's children's security in a letter to the Prime Minister's Office on December 7. Gowda immediately ordered the setting up of a committee to reduce their security. But Durai paid for being so forthright. He was transferred to Delhi as director-general of the Railway Protection Force.
(...)
Indian Railways, Security Directorate
http://www.indianrailways.gov.in/indianrailways/directorate/security/dg_rpf.jsp
The office of the Director General RPF (Railways Police Force) changed hands through the following officers for the period noted against them:
(...)
22. A.P. Durai Title: IPS (Indian Police Service) Appointed: 12.03.97 Retired: 01.05.98
(Duration of appointment: one month at the end of 1997-98 as Chari is re-registering his SRCM (California-1997) in San Luis Obispo, California, USA)
(...)
Other Writings by A.P. Durai
SRCM(California-1997) and Sahaj Marg's "Inner Circle"
Taken from Article Alley and Erzine Articles, where AP Durai, Preceptor, joint secretary for SRCM (California-1997) and placed in charge of Babuji Memorial Ashram in Shahjahanpur, India, has written many articles promoting and selling everything from Holiday and Honeymoon destinations, to Water Filters, Yoga Poses, Detox Recipes, Retirement Funds, and Bad Breath cures. ( ... after much research... of course...TRUST ME!! ;-)) )
A.P. Durai bio on these articles:
A.P. Durai, after his retirement from the Indian Police Service, is a full time worker (salaried??) of a worldwide spiritual organisation which trains spiritual seekers in meditation. Himself an authorised trainer in meditation, he spends most of his time on it. (and writing advertising articles for "commercial products and services") Having been the Director of the National Police Academy in India, he often lectures to police officers under training on holistic development. He is deeply interested in human development and transformation through a spiritual approach.
Self-promotion in Article Alley article: Yoga Poses: "Please do not learn from the books. One should not be one’s own Guru (Teacher) in matters of Yoga asanas, pranayama or meditation and one might end up worse than before. Look for qualified, committed, professional teachers."
A1Articles.com
Beach Wedding - A Perfect Venue
By A.P. Durai, April 18, 2007 (see bio at bottom of page)
See also:
Impact of Sahaj Marg(tm) Abhyasis on Society
Two Newspaper Reports of Attacks on Babuji's Ashram
Translation of Hindi Newspaper on SRCM (Shahjahanpur) Site
Scan of Newspaper #1 (in Hindi... Jagran with photos... or see translation above)
Scan of Newspaper #2 (in Hindi... Hindustan ... or see translation above)
SRCM (California-1997) And The Sahaj Marg(tm) "Inner Circle"
Projet Sahaj Marg (Alexis' Blog in French with some English)
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Comments and insertions by 4d-Don are in "red italics"
Alexis Said:
Who is A.P. Durai?
Retired officer of the IPS (Indian Police Service), he was Director of the National Police Academy (NPA). (see below for clarification) This is one of the most essential characters of the SRCM (California-1997), Chari's secretary or assistant-secretary at different times, he is also one of Chari's handymen, including of his most menial tasks, thanks to the many contacts he maintains in the forces of Law and Order. His role was pivotal in the occupation by force of the ashrams held by other opposing clans (Babuji's family and older prefects and preceptors appointed by, and loyal to Babuji. See Newspaper articles below)
Chari speaks much of the keys to the success of spirituality according to the method of Sahaj Marg, rarely of individual benefits that can be drawn by the abhyasi, and never of the collective benefits for the world and society. AP Durai, if indeed he is the author of this article, breaks the silence in an intelligent mix where confusion and contradictions abound.
Once these precautions are taken, let us go to the text itself, but keeping in mind that A.P. Durai, to which it is attributed may not be the true author.
The number of marriages performed by Chari cited in the text argues for a date of the writing to be between 2007 and 2010, and is then fairly recent. If the publicity for this text should grow, we would be right to question the pretentions of A.P. Durai to the position of Chari's successor, especially today when the wildest rumors abound on the (soon) disappearance of Chari.
Society will change only when individuals have changed.
Individual change - understand: the work on one's self, on one's character, through the Sahaj Marg meditation - is paramount. When it reaches a certain critical mass, it will overflow onto society and into the world in general, but not before.
The work itself provides considerable individual benefits, if one believes A.P. Durai, and this in all areas of life. But his examples are all strangely related to one's professional life and to one's effectiveness in the workplace. Sahaj Marg ™ as a development technique and personal effectiveness is a seller ... terribly bank-able!
Especially when the example is Chari himself. He allegedly completed his regular day's work in just two to three hours, and spent the rest of his time on the work of the Mission, and this did not prevent him from progressing. Understand then, that with SM one can work 2-3 hours, bumming the rest of the time and still climb in the workplace hierarchy. So it is an effective and appealing argument ...
But one must obey the Master and the Ultimate (the Divine), both beautifully confused by Durai into a single entity. One should not have to compromise on one's spiritual values! Durai, Chari's handyman, is well placed to speak ... He adds that Chari was no longer able to progress (in the hierarchy) during his last six years working at TTK, so as to avoid compromising and renouncing his moral values and his ethics. The years in question is the period from 1979 to 1985, during which time, Chari had to be almost full time at the SRCM and very often travel the world ...
For the world to really change, the abhyasis must obey the Master and do serious work on their own character. Chari began the work by celebrating over 2000 mixed marriages, where he mixed the colors, castes, ethnicities, etc.. to prepare for the Man of Tomorrow.
But to really change the world, Chari can not do everything and it is only through the abhyasis that society will evolve. Indirectly, it is understood that if the present world situation, IMPLIED to be disastrous, does not change, the abhyasis should only blame themselves. Chari Almighty, coincident with the Divine, is not responsible. It's the fault of the abhyasis and it is their own responsibility!... because they are not numerous enough or not effective enough in their work on themselves ...
And here we find the "critical mass" mentioned by Babuji. When the number of abhyasis of Sahaj Marg has reached a certain threshold (not defined), the world will "stumble" into spirituality. That was the justification for proselytizing according to Babuji, as it is still today if we are to believe Durai, although Chari did not mention it.
Tues, October 19, 11:29:00 AM
Durai's Retirement ?
From: Outlook India.com
The Price of Protection, K.S. Narayanan
http://www.outlookindia.com/article.aspx?203348
(...)
Politicians do not take kindly to withdrawal of security. A.P. Durai, DGP, Karnataka, triggered a debate on the wasteful expenditure incurred by the state on Prime Minister H.D. Deve Gowda's children's security in a letter to the Prime Minister's Office on December 7. Gowda immediately ordered the setting up of a committee to reduce their security. But Durai paid for being so forthright. He was transferred to Delhi as director-general of the Railway Protection Force.
(...)
Indian Railways, Security Directorate
http://www.indianrailways.gov.in/indianrailways/directorate/security/dg_rpf.jsp
The office of the Director General RPF (Railways Police Force) changed hands through the following officers for the period noted against them:
(...)
22. A.P. Durai Title: IPS (Indian Police Service) Appointed: 12.03.97 Retired: 01.05.98
(Duration of appointment: one month at the end of 1997-98 as Chari is re-registering his SRCM (California-1997) in San Luis Obispo, California, USA)
(...)
Other Writings by A.P. Durai
SRCM(California-1997) and Sahaj Marg's "Inner Circle"
A.P. Durai bio on these articles:
A.P. Durai, after his retirement from the Indian Police Service, is a full time worker (salaried??) of a worldwide spiritual organisation which trains spiritual seekers in meditation. Himself an authorised trainer in meditation, he spends most of his time on it. (and writing advertising articles for "commercial products and services") Having been the Director of the National Police Academy in India, he often lectures to police officers under training on holistic development. He is deeply interested in human development and transformation through a spiritual approach.
Self-promotion in Article Alley article: Yoga Poses: "Please do not learn from the books. One should not be one’s own Guru (Teacher) in matters of Yoga asanas, pranayama or meditation and one might end up worse than before. Look for qualified, committed, professional teachers."
A1Articles.com
Beach Wedding - A Perfect Venue
By A.P. Durai, April 18, 2007 (see bio at bottom of page)
See also:
Impact of Sahaj Marg(tm) Abhyasis on Society
Two Newspaper Reports of Attacks on Babuji's Ashram
Translation of Hindi Newspaper on SRCM (Shahjahanpur) Site
Scan of Newspaper #1 (in Hindi... Jagran with photos... or see translation above)
Scan of Newspaper #2 (in Hindi... Hindustan ... or see translation above)
SRCM (California-1997) And The Sahaj Marg(tm) "Inner Circle"
Projet Sahaj Marg (Alexis' Blog in French with some English)
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Sunday, October 17, 2010
The Impact of a "Sahaj Marg(tm)" Abhyasis on Society!
Taken from Elodie's blog in Europe: Pour Que Vive Le Sahaj Marg in an article titled: "Impact D'Un Abhyasi Sur La Société" by A.P. Durai, Joint Secretary of SRCM (California-1997).
This is an article attributed to A.P. Durai, and posted on a share Website called: Scribd.com by Amit Gothi, October 11, 2010. This "almost perfectly" unknown (abhyasi of Vijayawada, Andhra Pradesh) has not posted any other articles. He is the only one (for the moment) to claim that this document is written by A. P. Durai.
Comments and insertions by 4d-Don are in "red italics"
Elodie Said:
I found an article on the internet by A.P. Durai, (Joint Secretary of Chari's SRCM (California-1997) titled: The impact of an Abhyasi on Society. Here are a few significant exerpts (see full article at link above):
In Sahaj Marg, Master slowly makes us aware that we are not only individuals pursuing a spiritual path for our own sake, but are also members of the human family and our inner and external changes are going to influence the evolution of mankind and determine its future. The subtle impressions we create on the minds of people living around us are going to influence their spiritual destiny, too. Therefore, it is important that we bring about change in our personal life, family life, professional or working life and public life and make them value based in tune with Master’s teachings.
Such as Chari's teachings about the "minority" he calls "un-natural": gays, lesbians and trans-genders? Or Chari's teachings about "all other religions" which he calls corrupt, and "promoting violence and war"? What about God being called "male", which at SRCM(California-1997), is taught to children? That should confuse the children of today and the adults of tomorrow, eh?? Specially the females.
What level of morality is involved with re-registering a society in another country and changing the directors to "yes men and women" obedient to Chari? What morality is involved in the use of a "predator", the lion, at your ashrams and the idolatry displayed by the presence of many statues (Ganesh?) and iconography for sale? What morality is displayed in forcibly taking over Ashrams and removing the preceptors appointed by Babuji, the Founder of SRCM and Sahaj Marg ... including his family?
Morality is not "words" but actions!! You, at SRCM (California-1997), and you product, Sahaj Marg(tm), trade marked for commerce and trade, talk the talk ... but you don't seem to walk the walk!! And we don't see the abhyasis doing anything different from the leadership.
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Human beings generally wait for the day when the world would change‐ for them to fall in line. (and you?? Remember Chari's teachings: "When you point at others ..."" ) But that day never seems to arrive because, as Master stresses, individual change should take place first and for that the individual should take the trouble, use his will, emulate the Master and wait for the impact to be felt on society. (should you not clean up your own back yard before you preach at others ... others "should"?? YOU SHOULD!! )
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When we adopt Sahaj Marg as a way of life along with its Maxims, change in our lifestyle is inevitable. (Walk the walk! ) We cannot be here with Master and also there in worldly life running the materialistic and compromise‐ based race with others. We need not lament that one’s relations and friends have moved away since we no longer subscribe to their values or fulfill their expectations. (The power-addicted and the materialists preaching at the simple and the spiritual ... We are not impressed. It's time for you at Sahaj Marg (tm) to change ... we (the world) are all waiting!! You, the pseudo-religious are the last to take the true spiritual train.... deal with, and get rid of the addiction to material and POWER) Now, our only family is the Sahaj Marg family and the only friend is the Master. (Dividing still... UNITE, and show your spirituality) Through Him, we continue to love everyone, the whole of humanity but in the spiritual way – without emotional attachment and expectations. (Wrong! ... you at Sahaj Marg(tm) disrespect, you are "emotional" and egotistical and you seem a bit arrogant ... Even with the family of your founder, the family of his "friend" (Dr. K.C. Varadachari) and the only saint in Sahaj Marg, Kasturi, not to mention all the old prefects and preceptors and their disciples, and the many ad-hoc groups in Europe who still practice Sahaj Marg, but will not join with the Sahaj Marg(tm) or Chari.)
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An abhyasi must shine in his profession or work place by the quality of his work. (The leadership of SRCM (California-1997) are the "profiteers" and the "polluters" of our social and material world ... Now they profiteer from pseudo-RELIGION and Spiritualism ... and pollute the spiritual atmosphere with spiritualism: Mediums, egregores, messages from the dead, etc...) Meditation, constant remembrance and an enlightened mind help us to focus better on the work and motivate us to explore the boundaries of our work and make it the means of our spiritual evolution. (or de-volution) We are able to do more with less and less effort and so we have more time left for service to the mission and for sadhana. (Create less and less MATERIAL and less and less "spiritualism", and show "more and more" of SPIRIT and Spirituality )
Our Master says he was able to finish his office work in two or three hours and use the rest of the time in the Mission’s service. Still, his performance was so good he advanced in his career also simultaneously. (And finally took over a small and dis-organized meditation group and divided it, over and over again ... into "240 small pieces" (Chari's nighmare) ... very SPIRITUAL!! Very UNITING!! (sarcasm) ... NOT!
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We are aware that the whole world is chasing success in every field of human endeavour. This mad chase has given birth to competition, selfishness, aggression and disregard of decency and civility in human transactions and relationships. (you are... we, the people are not)
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Our Master steers us away from the pursuit of worldly goals at the cost of moral and ethical values. (Wrong... To "conquer the world" is not to "steer away" from "worldly goals"... It is to "sell out" to one's material and temporal GOALS... Spirituality does not have material goals ... BE HERE NOW !! One more Ashram for seekers to drive to and increase their "carbon footprint", will not save the PLANET nor the WORLD. ONE is Everything, Everywhere, Everywhen... the E-Trinity ... E=Eternal ... not infinite or ULTIMATE or "more than + 1" !! Eternal means: no beginning, no end)
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[An abhyasi] must have firm faith in his Master and his teachings and take his position on the side of the values of love, compassion, truthfulness, integrity and honesty. Such an abhyasi would have the courage to walk alone. He will be a path breaker and a leader for his group, be it his family, work place or street. (lol... lol... Ask the gays and lesbians, the "adherents to other religions, the real "truthful and honest" people with integrity. If the teachings and the actions of the leader have "value" then it is possible... but the teachings and the actions of this gang are not "love, compassion, etc..." It is more disrespect, power-addicted, materialist, egotist, arrogant, etc... It will not help the Spiritual evolution of the world any more than the materialist religions have ... That is why REFORMATION always takes place... It will take place in Sahaj Marg(tm) also... You are going through your "Pope Leo X" (14th Century ACE) phase... you may become "SPIRIT" yet ...
lol lol)
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Ethics and morality in private and public domains are the values emphasized by Master – not only for our own evolution but also by way of our obligation to bring about universal change in our society – in tune with the Divine plan for humanity. Abhyasis are expected to shine as men (and women) of character and spiritual strength and be models for their fellowmen. (Please, change first eh! As you are now, I would not want my children to become like most of you. They are already better than that. Walk the Walk... and THEN talk the talk ... not the other way around! As it is, some of the disciples are more moral than the leadership. As SRCM (California-1997), the cart is pulling the horse ... or the bull, as they seem to be "stubbornly" refusing to learn and TRANSFORM first ... and then, preach later. )
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Our heart should open to the poor, the exploited and the oppressed. This should give us the courage to speak up when injustice is being done to someone in our organization or work place. (yes...yes... yes... WHEN, WHEN, WHEN? We "should" ... but you don't. You simply buy more "PROPERTY" and CONCRETE and manicured (not manics cured) lawns which you call "NATURAL", and surround them with idolatrous statues of the gurus, lions, Ganesh, etc ... And the gays, and lesbians and trans-genders who will suffer (will be beaten) today because of the statements of your GURU?? And why can't women be Masters?? Where is your "morality"??)
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Sahaj Marg recommends to all abhyasis the life of a grahastha. We are therefore part of society and have to discharge our civic responsibilities. (And BE SPIRIT... not materialist and power-addicted ... Become SIMPLE... If the SPIRITUAL gather Matter, who will speak for SPIRIT? The Materialists or the Atheists?)
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Master envisions a society that is unified as one family transcending mental barriers created by us. (yet Sahaj Marg(tm) and SRCM(California-1997) divides and divides and tries to control the MATTER of the world ... LIVE the Vision and it might happen ... We are not impressed. We have left "corrupt" religion to find the corrupt SPIRITUALISM of Sahaj Marg(tm), disguised as SPIRITUALITY...)
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Two thousand Sahaj Marg weddings have been performed by him (…) and they will form the vanguard of the new society in the offing. (Another RELIGION which wants to get the children before they can "think" and chose to grow the business on "no freedom" and "no philosophy" (according to Chari) ... They, the next generation of children, will rebel against Sahaj Marg (tm) also, just like we did with "corrupt religion" ... Babuji had that right ... 18 yrs old... not younger! And leave the children be children in a world where the adults are more "moral". The Children are emulating the adults (you) ... of course!! You gather the material, the spiritualism, the temporal, and they want some of that illusive "material" also. )
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It is, therefore, crucial that abhyasis bring up their children on sound moral, ethical and spiritual values and enable them to feel close to Master. (Make that: FREE to chose for themselves at the age of REASON ... Teach and show by example ... SRCM(California-1997) is not a good example on how to UNITE the world and respect others or their chosen SPIRITUAL or Religious path! )
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Master has taught us the Universal Prayer, which is a spiritual effort to bring about true faith, love and devotion (to the Ultimate/Master) among all human beings by preparing their hearts for this grand inner change. When this is done seriously and regularly by abhyasis, the rest of humanity also will turn towards spirituality. But this inner process has to be manifested externally; we need a critical mass of human beings who can demonstrate that a good community life, good governance, sound business practices and political processes can be achieved through spiritual values. It is in this context, abhyasis can play a dynamic role and bring about improvement in the quality of life in our society. Master expects abhyasis to play this critical role and it presents a great challenge to us – to externalise our change and become agents of change. Master once defined spirituality thus: “Spirituality is love, without fear or favour”. If we can practice it in all our thoughts and actions, without fear or favour, we shall soon see the impact of Master and His Marg (Way) on society, in our life time!
Repeating that one is a "slave" will not create a "better" person! Obedience has been tried by many before, and most have found that FREEDOM is what SPIRIT wants... This is the age of Transformation. We will transform, not because of Religion or Spiritualism such as Sahaj Marg(tm), but because it is our time to become ONE society on ONE Globe, planet Earth, Gaia. It is also our time to leave this planet and expand to the Cosmos ... so we will Transform as we can't journey into space as we are.
In our "gatherer-hunter" phase, our gods were of nature (circular, pantheist, female, forces of nature, etc..) and we looked down ... Then, we (homo sapiens) transformed and we looked up to the sky and our new gods became "sky gods" (the many pyramids, solar, male, logic, reason, science, monotheism)... Now we are at the point of a galactic consciousness (spiral, Uniting, ONE-ness, SPIRIT, Quantuum, Holographic, fractal, etc...
We will transform ... Our hour is at hand ... Catch up you "materialists" ... BE SPIRIT!! Stop preaching as if you knew more than the PEOPLE!! We have left behind what you seek as your goal: Reach critical mass at any cost, and then "CONQUER THE WORLD". You will never do it ... it is a moving and a changing world and it will not be "conquered" by a "speck of dust", MAN! Many others have tried and have been humbled by "the laughter of the gods". (Einstein)
We have to, and we, the PEOPLE, will BE ONE with ALL! We will not be part of anyone's "PYRAMID" of power. We are leaving the concept of LEADERSHIP and MASTERS to those who claim to come first, be first, or to be "chosen", and hence fit to teach the masses, behind in their dark age of Materialism. We will be FREE ... and we will TRANSFORM!! All information is at our fingertips. The choice IS now ours. And we chose FREEDOM!
It's the first time that I hear of this vision of the world and of its transformation by Sahaj Marg
Elodie
Other Writings by A.P. Durai
SRCM(California-1997) and Sahaj Marg's "Inner Circle"
A.P. Durai bio on these articles:
A.P. Durai, after his retirement from the Indian Police Service, is a full time worker of a worldwide spiritual organisation which trains spiritual seekers in meditation. Himself an authorised trainer in meditation, he spends most of his time on it. Having been the Director of the National Police Academy in India, he often lectures to police officers under training on holistic development. He is deeply interested in human development and transformation through a spiritual approach.
Self-promotion in Article Alley article: Yoga Poses: "Please do not learn from the books. One should not be one’s own Guru (Teacher) in matters of Yoga asanas, pranayama or meditation and one might end up worse than before. Look for qualified, committed, professional teachers."
See also:
SRCM (California-1997) And The Sahaj Marg(tm) "Inner Circle"
Projet Sahaj Marg (Alexis' Blog in French with some English)
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Monday, October 11, 2010
Sahaj Marg (tm) Proselytism! Snake Oil Salesladies in Massage Parlours?
Taken and translated from Elodie's blog: Pour Que Vive Le Sahaj Marg. This comment was originally posted on Alexis' Blog: Le Projet Sahaj Marg, by Frédéric.
There is no proselytization in Sahaj Marg (tm)...they claim!! Want to buy a "BRIDGE" ??
Insertions and comments by 4d-don are in "red italics"
Frédéric said:
Maybe this testimonial will interest you.
I'm on vacation in Pondicherry, and as a good tourist I wanted to try the Ayurvedic massage. A very enjoyable and relaxing hour, as I had left Paris with a few problems.
Concerns at work which have made me forget my own person, I had put the cause of my weight loss and my fatigue on these concerns. But that was not the case, blood tests have revealed that I have a liver problem (to be precise, I never drink more than one beer per week, when I consume a lot, go tell ...)
After this message the person at the desk, calls me back after I had paid. She tells me that it is good to take care of one's self, of one's body, but to take care of one's mind is essential. There! The alarm is ringing in my head because I'm certainly one of those people which cults reject. I feel it coming when anyone tries to dominate me mentally, to "knock me off my game" and my mind (not my soul) is ready to fight. I say this because it is important, because beneath a calm and reserved exterior, which attracts profiteers of all stripes, I have a great strength of character which allows me to defend myself, as opposed to other more psychologically fragile people.
So this woman wants to entertain me. I play the game. She questions me while discussing, so as to surround me. I reveal my situation which has nothing secret, since I've already explained it to my family and to my doctor: my conflict at my work with a young buck (literal: wolf) straight out of ENA school (ÉNA**=École Nationale d'Administration), trying to bamboozle my team (I am team leader) and he has come in conflict with the convinced unionist which I am. Liver problem then. Recurrent insomnia since childhood due to some family trauma of which I am aware, but being aware of things does not necessarily solve them. And then the worries in bulk, without order, (en vrac= in bulk, without order), caused a severe cervical osteoarthritis (she did not know what it means, serious)
She thinks very fast, she has a quality of which I am aware, because it is a quality on which I rely myself, she synthesizes.
I continue to listen passively and she drops the gum (to "gum-up" the thinking process?). We (they?) would need more people like me who are engaged socially among them, but I have to change my form of struggle because it is through meditation that we will solve the social injustices, she is very good, it reminds me of the Natural Law Party (NLP*) which fielded candidates in France 20 some odd years ago, and who was also a cult (anyway, I thought that they were somehow related). Anyhow, she also tells me that it is largely thanks to the guru that the balance is currently being maintained globally. There, on the inside, I am totally bursting out laughing, and I have a hard time not smiling. Of course, as with all these hucksters, I have the right to hear the verse about love of which I've certainly been weaned to be so morally and physically ill (and here, I thought it was my liver... finally, good) and the guru can fix everything for me, but my family has probably something to do with it, he could fix my arthritis which he could certainly reverse ... even if she never understood what cervical osteoarthritis was, and I doubt that the guru can come to me and plane the calcification in the neck, no matter how powerful he is.
Finally she proposes meeting the guru, to take me to Madras (Chennai) with her to meet him and to start right away with my rebirth, because I must be aware that life is but a journey and that death is the beginning of everything . That is downright scary as discourse.
I continued in my role so as to know as much as possible and to document thereafter. Before leaving the salon, she handed me some brochures, the contact of the association in Paris and after researching (a little) I arrived here.
These people are they a doomsday sect?
In any case they seem very "aggressive" and organized with many outlets.
I don t have a google account or AIM, I'm anonymous but I have no problem in giving my email, in private.
Good evening
* Natural Law Party (NLP) was founded by the Maharishi (the Beatles' Guru). This refers to the "sect" called: Transcendental Meditation.
** The ENA a typically French school, which graduates the "enarques" who will become the future administrators of major private and public (as Ministers) enterprises.
See also:
The Mediums of Sahaj Marg(tm) And The Apocalypse
Is Sahaj Marg(tm) Serving The "beings of light"? Lucifer?
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There is no proselytization in Sahaj Marg (tm)...they claim!! Want to buy a "BRIDGE" ??
Insertions and comments by 4d-don are in "red italics"
Frédéric said:
Maybe this testimonial will interest you.
I'm on vacation in Pondicherry, and as a good tourist I wanted to try the Ayurvedic massage. A very enjoyable and relaxing hour, as I had left Paris with a few problems.
Concerns at work which have made me forget my own person, I had put the cause of my weight loss and my fatigue on these concerns. But that was not the case, blood tests have revealed that I have a liver problem (to be precise, I never drink more than one beer per week, when I consume a lot, go tell ...)
After this message the person at the desk, calls me back after I had paid. She tells me that it is good to take care of one's self, of one's body, but to take care of one's mind is essential. There! The alarm is ringing in my head because I'm certainly one of those people which cults reject. I feel it coming when anyone tries to dominate me mentally, to "knock me off my game" and my mind (not my soul) is ready to fight. I say this because it is important, because beneath a calm and reserved exterior, which attracts profiteers of all stripes, I have a great strength of character which allows me to defend myself, as opposed to other more psychologically fragile people.
So this woman wants to entertain me. I play the game. She questions me while discussing, so as to surround me. I reveal my situation which has nothing secret, since I've already explained it to my family and to my doctor: my conflict at my work with a young buck (literal: wolf) straight out of ENA school (ÉNA**=École Nationale d'Administration), trying to bamboozle my team (I am team leader) and he has come in conflict with the convinced unionist which I am. Liver problem then. Recurrent insomnia since childhood due to some family trauma of which I am aware, but being aware of things does not necessarily solve them. And then the worries in bulk, without order, (en vrac= in bulk, without order), caused a severe cervical osteoarthritis (she did not know what it means, serious)
She thinks very fast, she has a quality of which I am aware, because it is a quality on which I rely myself, she synthesizes.
I continue to listen passively and she drops the gum (to "gum-up" the thinking process?). We (they?) would need more people like me who are engaged socially among them, but I have to change my form of struggle because it is through meditation that we will solve the social injustices, she is very good, it reminds me of the Natural Law Party (NLP*) which fielded candidates in France 20 some odd years ago, and who was also a cult (anyway, I thought that they were somehow related). Anyhow, she also tells me that it is largely thanks to the guru that the balance is currently being maintained globally. There, on the inside, I am totally bursting out laughing, and I have a hard time not smiling. Of course, as with all these hucksters, I have the right to hear the verse about love of which I've certainly been weaned to be so morally and physically ill (and here, I thought it was my liver... finally, good) and the guru can fix everything for me, but my family has probably something to do with it, he could fix my arthritis which he could certainly reverse ... even if she never understood what cervical osteoarthritis was, and I doubt that the guru can come to me and plane the calcification in the neck, no matter how powerful he is.
Finally she proposes meeting the guru, to take me to Madras (Chennai) with her to meet him and to start right away with my rebirth, because I must be aware that life is but a journey and that death is the beginning of everything . That is downright scary as discourse.
I continued in my role so as to know as much as possible and to document thereafter. Before leaving the salon, she handed me some brochures, the contact of the association in Paris and after researching (a little) I arrived here.
These people are they a doomsday sect?
In any case they seem very "aggressive" and organized with many outlets.
I don t have a google account or AIM, I'm anonymous but I have no problem in giving my email, in private.
Good evening
* Natural Law Party (NLP) was founded by the Maharishi (the Beatles' Guru). This refers to the "sect" called: Transcendental Meditation.
** The ENA a typically French school, which graduates the "enarques" who will become the future administrators of major private and public (as Ministers) enterprises.
See also:
The Mediums of Sahaj Marg(tm) And The Apocalypse
Is Sahaj Marg(tm) Serving The "beings of light"? Lucifer?
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Thursday, October 07, 2010
Faith, Dogma, Truth!
From: "You are here" by Christopher Potter Page 270.
"Whoever undertakes to set himself up as the judge in the field of truth and knowledge is shipwrecked by the laughter of the Gods." (Einstein).
Fortunately, there are scientists and artists happy to "not dispute or assert but whisper results to his neighbour" (poet John Keats).
Faith turns to dogma where there are sides, and where one side insists it sees Truth unseen by the other. And dogma leads to war: I am right, you are wrong, we are invincible, they are the enemy. Faith is the "substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen" (Christian Bible, Hebrews 11:1).
Dogma is the insistence that what is unseen is really there.
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See also on Youtube:
Infected at Birth, The God Virus
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"Whoever undertakes to set himself up as the judge in the field of truth and knowledge is shipwrecked by the laughter of the Gods." (Einstein).
Fortunately, there are scientists and artists happy to "not dispute or assert but whisper results to his neighbour" (poet John Keats).
Faith turns to dogma where there are sides, and where one side insists it sees Truth unseen by the other. And dogma leads to war: I am right, you are wrong, we are invincible, they are the enemy. Faith is the "substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen" (Christian Bible, Hebrews 11:1).
Dogma is the insistence that what is unseen is really there.
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See also on Youtube:
Infected at Birth, The God Virus
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Monday, October 04, 2010
The Many "Babujis" Among Lalaji's Disciples!
Taken and translated from Elodie's blog in Europe: Pour Que Vive Le Sahaj Marg. This is a short article by Elodie with some links to Ramashram.org (see link below) and to Alexis's blog: Le Projet Sahaj Marg.
Comments and insertions by 4d-don are in "red italics"
Monday, Oct. 4, 2010
One Babuji, Two Babujis, and even Three
Ram Chandra of Shahjahanpur (aka "Babuji") is far from being the only "Babuji". Long live the confusion.
Comments and insertions by 4d-don are in "red italics"
Monday, Oct. 4, 2010
One Babuji, Two Babujis, and even Three
According to Alexis, the affectionate name given to Babuji Maharaj has also been attributed to two (at least) other great disciples of Lalaji, Shyam Lal Saxena et Shyam Bihari Lalji.
(Notice also the "Babu's" ("ji" is a title of respect, as "sir") among Lalaji's disciples)
Exerpt from Alexis' Blog: Le Projet Sahaj Marg (French)
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That makes two new Babuji Maharaj, both prior to Babuji and Chari of Sahaj Marg. When we know that Babuji of the SRCM has long attended the Ramashram Sikandrabad, we can assume that there he met more than once Shyam Lal Saxena, called "Babuji Maharaj" a great friend of Krishna Lalji. He bore the same name as Lalaji, did he want to have the same nickname as two (2) of his disciples?
Finally, here's a list of the principal disciples of Lalaji, according to: shriramashram.org:
- Raghubar Dayal ji (7/10/1875-7/06/1947), nicknamed Chacha ji Maharaj – brother of Lalaji
- Brij Mohan Lal ji (14/04/1898-17/01/1955) – 1st son of Raghubal Dayal Chachaji, nephew of Lalaji
- Krishna Swarup ji (22/12/1879-19/09/1958)
- Jag Mohan Narayan ji (2/11/1900-28/08/1944) – son of Lalaji
- Dr. Krishna Lal Bhatnagar ji (15/10/1894-18/05/1970), nicknamed Tauji Maharaj – Ramashram de Sikandrabad
- Dr. Shyam Lal Saxena (1/01/1901-29/12/1987), nicknamed Babuji Maharaj – Ramashram from Ghaziabad
- Shyam Bihari Lal ji (19/07/1890-7/06/1959), nicknamed Post Master Sahab, (and Babuji Maharaj him also ?)– Guru de Ranaji, fondateur of Ramashram de Shyam Nagar
- Dr. Chaturbhuj Sahay ji (3/11/1883-23/09/1957) – Ramashram of Etah then of Mathura
- Prabhu Dayal ji (1885-9/01/1948), nicknamed Peshkar Sahab
- Ram Chandra ji (30/04/1899-19/04/1983), nicknamed Babuji – Sahaj Marg SRCM
- Sevti Prasad Mukhtar ji (1/12/1899-30/08/1989), nicknamed Phupha ji Sahab – Companion of Krishna Lalji and of Shyam Lal Saxena
- Radha Mohan Lal ji (October 1900-21/07/1966) - 2nd son of Raghubal Dayal Chachaji, nephew of Lalaji - nicknamed Pujya Sri Munshi Babu
- Jyotindra Mohan Lal ji (17/06/1913-11/07/1989) – 3rd son of Raghubal Dayal Chachaji, nephew of Lalaji - nicknamed Pujya Jyoti Babu
- Hiralal Joshi ji (22/11/1899-11/09/1979)
- Bhawani Shankar ji (6/11/1891-20/07/1973), nicknamed Chacha ji, Urai Waale - Sant Bhawani Shankar Satsanj Aashram Orai
- Thakur Ram Singh ji (30/09/1899-14/01/1971) – Ramashram of Jaipur
- Harnarayan Saxena ji (20/03/1908-4/03/2003) – Saral Hari Marg
For details and more information on Lalaji and Lalaji's disciples, see on:
Ramashram.org the list of Lalaji's disciples.
Lalaji's and the Ramashram Heritage
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Lalaji Maharaj (Mahatma Ram Chandra ji Maharaj) (From Ramashram.org)
Param Sant Mahatma Ram Chandra ji Maharaj was a complete yogi, a complete guru and a complete brahm veta. Prior to Mahatmaji, the knowledge of the powerful concept of chakra-bhedan (chakra piercing? Kriya Yoga) had almost got extinct. This secret kernel of truth was guarded fiercely by those privileged few who had intimations of this knowledge. Most of them either did not want to propagate it or disclosed it to only a few handpicked ones. In the Naqshbandia Khandaan (house?) of the Sufis, this knowledge was being passed on from heart to heart. However, because of religious divides and societal disapproval, neither could the Hindu be a willing disciple of a Sufi, nor could a Sufi saint happily transfer this knowledge to the Hindus.
This reality veiled in secrecy was unfolded by Shri Ramchandra ji Maharaj who refused to be deterred by social and religious prejudices and attained the knowledge of chakra-bhedan from Param Pujya Sadguru Maulana Fazal Ahmad Khan Saheb. After perfecting the art of the chakra-bhedan vidya (knowledge of chakra piercing? Kriya yoga?) , he simplified the very strict rules and demanding lifestyle required for learning the adhyatma vidya (spiritual knowledge) to be accessed by the layman.
It seems that Babuji and Chari have the same attitude towards the leadership and the disciples of the groups they join and then belong to as "ABHYASIS". If they are not given the controls of the society as "president" or as "spiritual representative", they either take the name of others (the Master), or re-register their society (using the same name) in another country, or claim that the society they once belonged to has now "breathe their last" and that they, in their "dreams" or "fantasies", have been appointed "successor to the Master" and are to be followed by everyone. One can surmise that the old societies are to be dismantled or handed-over to them... sort of like a surrender to a "conqueror" !!
Is there not "EGO" in that ? Is that not "divisive", and not very humble or "spiritual"?
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Saturday, October 02, 2010
Sahaj Marg(tm) and Lalaji's Lineage!! (Revisited)
After re-reading this comment dated June, 2010, to a well-researched article by Alexis, (I translated into English) called: Lalaji And His Many Successors, dated Jan. 26, 2007, from the (alleged) great grandson of Lalaji, I decided to make an article of it for the benefit of those who like to research their "SPIRITUAL" path and not just go blindly ...
Insertions and comments by 4d-don in the text of others, are in "red-italics"
See also the other interesting comments to this article by some (alleged) disciples of Lalaji:
Lalaji And His Many Successors. (Jan. 26, 2007)
... or see this article dated Aug. 11, 2009: "Comment to the Article: Lalaji and His Many Successors"
N.B. I will add links in hypertext in the comments for the in-depth researcher... (I added the paragraphs for the sake of legibility ... and the bold fonts are mine)
addy said...
Hmmm! Spirituality that "backfires"??
Is that what Lalaji gave Babuji (in his dreams)? A "spiritual technique" that "backfires"?? Or did Babuji not use the "technique" properly? Hence all the divisions and intrigues in Sahaj Marg and SRCM? Remember, Babuji, a court clerk, met Lalaji only a few times, then attended the legitimate Ramashram meditation, and founded his Sahaj Marg and the Shri Ram Chandra Mission (SRCM), 14 years after Lalaji's death (1931), and one year after the death of Mahatma Jagmohan Narain, his son and his appointed successor's death (1944). This came after some revelation in his dreams of his appointment as Lalaji's successor.
What do the other Sufi followers of Lalaji have to say about all that??
Exerpt from this article: Brief Account of Life and Mission of H.H. Shri Laalaaji Maharaj, From: Jolly Creations.com ...
Laalaaji breathed his last at Fatehgarh (in the house referred to above) on August 14, 1931 and his tradition was ably carried on by his son, Mahatma Jagmohan Narain, till his demise on August 28, 1944. After passing away the later, his son-Mahatma Akhilesh Kumar carried on the work of the mission by publication of the work of his grandfather and by editing a periodical “Adhyaatma Dhaara” till his untimely death on May 15, 1974. Now the burden of carrying on the torch of the Master has fallen on Mahatma Dinesh kumar, his younger grandson.
Notice: Lalaji's son and successor (according to his last will, but still debated by some ... see above), Mahatma Jagmohan Narain (1901-1944) dies on August 28, 1944, at the young age of 43. He is succeeded by his son, Mahatma Akhilesh Kumar (1941-1974), and he dies an "untimely death" on May 15, 1974, at the age of 33. We don't know the cause of death of most of this lineage.
It seems that the "good" die young?? Or is there an on-going conspiracy here? Lalaji also passed away very young (1873-1931 or 58 yrs old) (see account of Lalaji's death on ISRC site, the schism from SRCM led by Dr. Varadachari's son, Narayana). Remember, Dr. K.C. Varadachari, (Aug. 14, 1902 - Jan. 31, 1971) Professor of Philosophy, was a close friend of Babuji, the Founder of Sahaj Marg (the method) and SRCM (the society), and was being groomed to succeed him as President of SRCM and his "spiritual representative", but he also died (diabetes?). He and Chari did not agree on the "commercialization" of the Mission. (see his story at link above)
Let us not forget also that Lalaji's ancestors were in the camp of Akbar, the Persian Muslim invader, since the 15th century, and were tax collectors and adminitrators for 555 villages, until the independence movement when the family lost their status and all their wealth. Hmmmm! Beside having servants, it is said that "an elephant could enter through their front door" (large? Castle?)
This is not the "hermit in a cave" type of spirituality! The leadership is very politically involved and connected ... with many intrigues and strange accusations and inuendoes on all sides.
It reminds one of the Vatican from the dark ages to the Reformation which was followed by the Renaissance (re-birth) followed by the Age of Reason. The preferred weapon of the "religious set" to eliminate the competition has been poison or "death by doctor".
Religion or "Holy Mother the Church" (Vatican) eventually lost it's hold on the Sciences in the western world, and science developed the "scientific method", which brought about the technology which we see today.
The mystical "magic" of medieval Religion became, or was replaced by the REAL magic of electricity, magnetism, atomism, etc... etc...and took Religious man and his mythical fantasy world, away from his central place in the Cosmos (astronomy) and/or in the Universe, which brought about, or was a precursor to the industrial revolution, the electrical revolution, the electronics revolution, the "INFORMATION" revolution, relativity, quantuum, etc... etc...and all the technology we see today.
If one wants corruption, one can remain RELIGIOUS. Specially in the Religions of the decendants of the "semetic" Abraham. (Judaism, Christianity, Islam)
Babuji founded (invented) his Shri Ram Chandra Mission in 1945, (one year after the death of Lalaji's son (and successor?), Mahatma Jagmohan Narain, and his (Babuji's) "Autobiography Of Ram Chandra" (See exerpts and comments by research psychologist and psycho-linguist, Christian, an abhyasis of Chari's and Sahaj Marg(tm), for 18 yrs)" mentions and makes inuendoes of many intrigues, and displays a state of stress akin to "paranoia".
Notice also in the Jolly Creations article mentionned above: Lalaji was "a great pillar of Santmat (Sufism beyond religion)".
(Santmat is a meditation on the inner light and sound ... See here for the revealed Santmat Mantra (THE FIVE HOLY NAMES)
Dr. S. P. Shrivastava, ex-president of SRCM (Shahjahanpur-1945) and the author of: "The Autobiography of Ram Chadra", mentions "spiritual techniques" used against Babuji from:
Some persons (??), physically and socially close to Revered Lalaji, had claimed to be His representative and successor, and they were trying somewhat deliberately to harm and even do away with the physical existence of Grand Master's real (appointed by whom) representative in every possible way, including the use of certain spiritual techniques.
For Further clairifications on Lalajis' lineage, and their "Golden Chain" (lineage to the Prophet), see this series of letters from Chirag Gohil with Lalaji's grandson, Dinesh Kumar Saxena, Dean of NaqshMuMra.
Also on NaqshMuMRa Nexus site:
Babuji's letter of 1963, stating that Lalaji's 'Mohamadan systems have all breathe their last and this, the 'Sahaj Marga', the only ONE has emerged out in their place" ... (click on letter to enlarge)
Epitome of Sahaj Marg : Lalaji passes Ram Chandra (aka Babuji) over as preceptor because "...Brother Ram Chandra undoubtedly has ability and agility in this respect, but I am sorry that due to restrictions of his father, narrowness of heart and space, and intricacies of his home, my sagacity did not permit me for the time being to throw the responsibility on him. …”
Epitome of Sahaj Marg also found on Alexis' blog here:
http://srcmsmproject.blogspot.ca/2011/12/epitome-of-sahajmarg.html
See also: On Sri Ramashram.org (Lalaji and his Sufi "technique"):
(...)
...Prior to Mahatmaji, the knowledge of the powerful concept of chakra-bhedan (piercing of the chakras ?) had almost got extinct. This secret kernel of truth was guarded fiercely by those privileged few who had intimations of this knowledge. Most of them either did not want to propagate it or disclosed it to only a few handpicked ones. In the Naqshbandia Khandaan (house) of the Sufis, this knowledge was being passed on from heart to heart. However, because of religious divides and societal disapproval, neither could the Hindu be a willing disciple of a Sufi, nor could a Sufi saint happily transfer this knowledge to the Hindus.
This reality veiled in secrecy was unfolded by Shri Ramchandra ji Maharaj who refused to be deterred by social and religious prejudices and attained the knowledge of chakra-bhedan from Param Pujya Sadguru Maulana Fazal Ahmad Khan Saheb.
(...)
This spirituality is as clear as MUD!! The Hindu, Muslim, and Sufi tensions are everywhere!!
And then some, the businessmen and promoters of Sahaj Marg (tm), a so-called trade-marked Natural product, shameless-ly speak of the "corruption" in ORGANIZED RELIGION as a way of luring the adherents of other religions to what has truly become spiritualism and pseudo-spirituality !!
"Methinks they doth protest (about other religions) too much!" (Shakespeare)
See Also:
Business of the Gods, on Tehelka- The People's Paper (India)
YOGA, MEDITATION, AYURVEDA, ART OF LIVING. HOLDING ON TO FAITH AND LETTING GO OF STRESS IN THESE TROUBLED TIMES COMES AT A PRICE. BUT MILLIONS ARE READY TO PAY. THE HEALERS, AMASSING FORTUNES AND BUILDING EMPIRES, SEEM TO BE THE HAPPIEST,
WRITES SHANTANU GUHA RAY
Sufi Saints and Sufism (Dr. R. K. Gupta)
NaqshMuMRa Stream of Sufis - Lalaji's Branch of Sufism (Dr. R. K. Gupta)
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Insertions and comments by 4d-don in the text of others, are in "red-italics"
See also the other interesting comments to this article by some (alleged) disciples of Lalaji:
Lalaji And His Many Successors. (Jan. 26, 2007)
... or see this article dated Aug. 11, 2009: "Comment to the Article: Lalaji and His Many Successors"
N.B. I will add links in hypertext in the comments for the in-depth researcher... (I added the paragraphs for the sake of legibility ... and the bold fonts are mine)
addy said...
adi
Hi,
I am great grandson of Paramsant Mahatma Lalaji Sahab. Please read the Vasiyatnama (last will) ... its in Jeevan Charitra (exact replica) which was read in front of everyone who claims to be the successor... Paramsant Lalaji sahab gave his throne to Paramsant Mahatma Brijmohan Lal ji sahab (He fainted after hearing this)...
Secondly Lalaji sahab was srictly against trust, mantras, yoga techniques, so those who claim that Lalaji sahab gave mantras and techniques to worship is abslutely wrong and misguiding ... He only believed the way of 'Antrik Tawajjoh' which can only be given by the guru to his disciples...He stated, " Its not easy to become a Guru and secondly one needs a body to carry such powers else it will backfire."
Paramsant Mahatma Brijmohan Lal Ji took samadhi in Mumbai and after that Paramsant Mahatma Omkar nath ji WAS MADE (BY THE WISH OF BUZURGS) the successor...
Its an order for us that we are not supposed to enter in any arguments (This was clearly stated by Mahatma Ram chandr ji - "Never argue with anyone) but after reading the comments I thought its important to put forward the exact words and series so that those who are in a state of confusion may find a way...I humbly ask for forgiveness if someone gets hurt...
Ya Ilahi Ta Abad Kayam Rahe Ye Silsila...
Hmmm! Spirituality that "backfires"??
Is that what Lalaji gave Babuji (in his dreams)? A "spiritual technique" that "backfires"?? Or did Babuji not use the "technique" properly? Hence all the divisions and intrigues in Sahaj Marg and SRCM? Remember, Babuji, a court clerk, met Lalaji only a few times, then attended the legitimate Ramashram meditation, and founded his Sahaj Marg and the Shri Ram Chandra Mission (SRCM), 14 years after Lalaji's death (1931), and one year after the death of Mahatma Jagmohan Narain, his son and his appointed successor's death (1944). This came after some revelation in his dreams of his appointment as Lalaji's successor.
What do the other Sufi followers of Lalaji have to say about all that??
Exerpt from this article: Brief Account of Life and Mission of H.H. Shri Laalaaji Maharaj, From: Jolly Creations.com ...
Laalaaji breathed his last at Fatehgarh (in the house referred to above) on August 14, 1931 and his tradition was ably carried on by his son, Mahatma Jagmohan Narain, till his demise on August 28, 1944. After passing away the later, his son-Mahatma Akhilesh Kumar carried on the work of the mission by publication of the work of his grandfather and by editing a periodical “Adhyaatma Dhaara” till his untimely death on May 15, 1974. Now the burden of carrying on the torch of the Master has fallen on Mahatma Dinesh kumar, his younger grandson.
Notice: Lalaji's son and successor (according to his last will, but still debated by some ... see above), Mahatma Jagmohan Narain (1901-1944) dies on August 28, 1944, at the young age of 43. He is succeeded by his son, Mahatma Akhilesh Kumar (1941-1974), and he dies an "untimely death" on May 15, 1974, at the age of 33. We don't know the cause of death of most of this lineage.
It seems that the "good" die young?? Or is there an on-going conspiracy here? Lalaji also passed away very young (1873-1931 or 58 yrs old) (see account of Lalaji's death on ISRC site, the schism from SRCM led by Dr. Varadachari's son, Narayana). Remember, Dr. K.C. Varadachari, (Aug. 14, 1902 - Jan. 31, 1971) Professor of Philosophy, was a close friend of Babuji, the Founder of Sahaj Marg (the method) and SRCM (the society), and was being groomed to succeed him as President of SRCM and his "spiritual representative", but he also died (diabetes?). He and Chari did not agree on the "commercialization" of the Mission. (see his story at link above)
Let us not forget also that Lalaji's ancestors were in the camp of Akbar, the Persian Muslim invader, since the 15th century, and were tax collectors and adminitrators for 555 villages, until the independence movement when the family lost their status and all their wealth. Hmmmm! Beside having servants, it is said that "an elephant could enter through their front door" (large? Castle?)
This is not the "hermit in a cave" type of spirituality! The leadership is very politically involved and connected ... with many intrigues and strange accusations and inuendoes on all sides.
It reminds one of the Vatican from the dark ages to the Reformation which was followed by the Renaissance (re-birth) followed by the Age of Reason. The preferred weapon of the "religious set" to eliminate the competition has been poison or "death by doctor".
Religion or "Holy Mother the Church" (Vatican) eventually lost it's hold on the Sciences in the western world, and science developed the "scientific method", which brought about the technology which we see today.
The mystical "magic" of medieval Religion became, or was replaced by the REAL magic of electricity, magnetism, atomism, etc... etc...and took Religious man and his mythical fantasy world, away from his central place in the Cosmos (astronomy) and/or in the Universe, which brought about, or was a precursor to the industrial revolution, the electrical revolution, the electronics revolution, the "INFORMATION" revolution, relativity, quantuum, etc... etc...and all the technology we see today.
If one wants corruption, one can remain RELIGIOUS. Specially in the Religions of the decendants of the "semetic" Abraham. (Judaism, Christianity, Islam)
Babuji founded (invented) his Shri Ram Chandra Mission in 1945, (one year after the death of Lalaji's son (and successor?), Mahatma Jagmohan Narain, and his (Babuji's) "Autobiography Of Ram Chandra" (See exerpts and comments by research psychologist and psycho-linguist, Christian, an abhyasis of Chari's and Sahaj Marg(tm), for 18 yrs)" mentions and makes inuendoes of many intrigues, and displays a state of stress akin to "paranoia".
Notice also in the Jolly Creations article mentionned above: Lalaji was "a great pillar of Santmat (Sufism beyond religion)".
(Santmat is a meditation on the inner light and sound ... See here for the revealed Santmat Mantra (THE FIVE HOLY NAMES)
Dr. S. P. Shrivastava, ex-president of SRCM (Shahjahanpur-1945) and the author of: "The Autobiography of Ram Chadra", mentions "spiritual techniques" used against Babuji from:
Some persons (??), physically and socially close to Revered Lalaji, had claimed to be His representative and successor, and they were trying somewhat deliberately to harm and even do away with the physical existence of Grand Master's real (appointed by whom) representative in every possible way, including the use of certain spiritual techniques.
For Further clairifications on Lalajis' lineage, and their "Golden Chain" (lineage to the Prophet), see this series of letters from Chirag Gohil with Lalaji's grandson, Dinesh Kumar Saxena, Dean of NaqshMuMra.
Also on NaqshMuMRa Nexus site:
Babuji's letter of 1963, stating that Lalaji's 'Mohamadan systems have all breathe their last and this, the 'Sahaj Marga', the only ONE has emerged out in their place" ... (click on letter to enlarge)
Epitome of Sahaj Marg : Lalaji passes Ram Chandra (aka Babuji) over as preceptor because "...Brother Ram Chandra undoubtedly has ability and agility in this respect, but I am sorry that due to restrictions of his father, narrowness of heart and space, and intricacies of his home, my sagacity did not permit me for the time being to throw the responsibility on him. …”
Epitome of Sahaj Marg also found on Alexis' blog here:
http://srcmsmproject.blogspot.ca/2011/12/epitome-of-sahajmarg.html
See also: On Sri Ramashram.org (Lalaji and his Sufi "technique"):
(...)
...Prior to Mahatmaji, the knowledge of the powerful concept of chakra-bhedan (piercing of the chakras ?) had almost got extinct. This secret kernel of truth was guarded fiercely by those privileged few who had intimations of this knowledge. Most of them either did not want to propagate it or disclosed it to only a few handpicked ones. In the Naqshbandia Khandaan (house) of the Sufis, this knowledge was being passed on from heart to heart. However, because of religious divides and societal disapproval, neither could the Hindu be a willing disciple of a Sufi, nor could a Sufi saint happily transfer this knowledge to the Hindus.
This reality veiled in secrecy was unfolded by Shri Ramchandra ji Maharaj who refused to be deterred by social and religious prejudices and attained the knowledge of chakra-bhedan from Param Pujya Sadguru Maulana Fazal Ahmad Khan Saheb.
(...)
This spirituality is as clear as MUD!! The Hindu, Muslim, and Sufi tensions are everywhere!!
And then some, the businessmen and promoters of Sahaj Marg (tm), a so-called trade-marked Natural product, shameless-ly speak of the "corruption" in ORGANIZED RELIGION as a way of luring the adherents of other religions to what has truly become spiritualism and pseudo-spirituality !!
"Methinks they doth protest (about other religions) too much!" (Shakespeare)
See Also:
Business of the Gods, on Tehelka- The People's Paper (India)
YOGA, MEDITATION, AYURVEDA, ART OF LIVING. HOLDING ON TO FAITH AND LETTING GO OF STRESS IN THESE TROUBLED TIMES COMES AT A PRICE. BUT MILLIONS ARE READY TO PAY. THE HEALERS, AMASSING FORTUNES AND BUILDING EMPIRES, SEEM TO BE THE HAPPIEST,
WRITES SHANTANU GUHA RAY
Sufi Saints and Sufism (Dr. R. K. Gupta)
NaqshMuMRa Stream of Sufis - Lalaji's Branch of Sufism (Dr. R. K. Gupta)
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.
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