Showing posts with label Sufi whispers. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Sufi whispers. Show all posts

Monday, December 17, 2012

Sahaj Marg, An Unforgettable Experience?

Translation of an article by Élodie: "Une Expérience Inoubliable", on her blog in Europe: "Pour Que Vive le Sahaj Marg"

Insertions for clarification by 4d-Don are in: "red italics"

December 17, 2012


An unforgettable experience?



A modest contribution to a complicated debate on the eminently subjective intensity of feeling brought about by meditation.

Our Western world is hectic and stressful, it always demands more from us, it washes us and it empties us of our substance. Now everyone at one time or another in his life, longs for peace and serenity. Paradoxically, the hyper materialism of our society inexorably leads us back to the quest for meaning and spiritual research.   In this context, the personal development techniques see a boulevard open at their feet.

Meditation has the wind in its sails, it help manage daily stress, it provides access to a relative well-being, in the absence of a total well-being. Technically, it consists of relaxing one's self and to empty one's interior, then follows mechanically a sense of calm and wholeness which anyone can achieve with a little practice. The feeling of this experience is generally very positive.

 Going a little further, meditation is also accompanied by various feelings such as experiencing a spiral of energy, feelings of infinite joy, love, peace and compassion and mystical visions, paranormal or magical ecstasy.  Also, it can give the feeling of a universal presence or a universal truth.  Some sometimes speak of the awakening of consciousness, of transcendent states or altered states of consciousness. These experiences seem indeed real for the people who live them, but everyone interprets them in a personal way, depending on their culture or their belief system.

The West has seized upon these ancient technique, as it does with everything, that is to say, greedily, hungrily.   Spiritual movements have thus developed from the East to the West with great success. Each of them tries to explain how their method is specific and better than its neighbor's, and if that is possible: unique in the world.  But Buddhism, Hinduism and Sufism has offered these techniques since forever, or almost.

Babuji created the method of Sahaj Marg around 1945, a simplified and accelerated technique from out of  Raja Yoga, with a guide who accompanies the spiritual seeker in his meditation on the heart, and who  (allegedly) transmits divine energy. Although they deny it, SRCM abhyasis peddle the idea that this method is unique, the best, the one that provides the most intense spiritual experience the most rapidly.   For them, Sahaj Marg is THE ultimate spiritual path.

Lalaji, the predecessor and the professed master of Babuji, used to say that it is the master (the spiritual guide) who does all the work once the disciple has abandoned himslef in his hands. Chari, the self-appointed successor of Babuji, said that the preceptor is there to serve the master, he is his channel to reach thousands of abhyasis and (allegedly) to transmit divine energy to them. But with more than 3,000 preceptors, sometimes appointed by phone after a few days of practice, the quality of the channel is significantly depleted, and sometimes dried up. Today, most of the followers of the SRCM experience or feel nothing more than what is provided by any other meditation technique.

At Sahaj Marg, the meditation thus provides a sense of well-being, it is an undeniable fact, even if its intensity is very variable.  When the spiritual guide is good (master or preceptor), the intensity of feeling is stronger and makes a more lasting impression. At SRCM, it is customary to say that this is due to the quality of the transmission, to be understood as the spiritual qualities of the guide.  But would it not  rather be due to the prejudice of the abhyasi toward his guide, thus establishing a prior trust conducive to a more total abandonment, and therefore from the outset to a more intense result? When the feeling is so intense, it is customary to say at the SRCM that one has approached the Central Region, or a merger with the Divine, the Holy Grail that is dangled before everyone. It is held up as the ultimate goal, undefined because it is indefinable, but accessible to everyone because the full preceptors, shown as example,  have supposedly reached it.

The more the  feeling is intense, the more intense also is the descent phase (coming down) that follows, as in the use of drugs (narcotics). The follower of the SRCM passes from a phase of wholeness (up)  to a phase of dejection (down)  and to severe depression in a continuous cycle that SRCM customarily explains as the re-opening of unconscious wounds which every human being  apparently have inside him.

When the intensity of feeling is low or when it is not up to expectations, it is customary to say that the SRCM adept was in a bad condition: love for the master was low, (there was) insufficient cleaning or insufficient work on one's character, etc.. The custom at SRCM then guilts the disciple because he did not make enough effort to be in a good condition.

For my part, I meditated at the SRCM alone and with only two main precpeptors. The first was full of himself and exasperated me, I never felt anything else with him than an uncontrollable feeling of rejection.  I did everything to change and discovered a second preceptor which I chose because our contact was good, but he was apparently not a very good channel because I've never been moved.  But what did I not hear at my center, when I tried to explain my weak feeling, the group sent me back to my condition, my lack of work on myself, I was solely responsible, guilty. I happened occasionally to meditate with other preceptors at gatherings and Oh! Miracle (lo and behold), there everything went well, the experience was wonderful. Since my departure, I continue to meditate alone and sometimes with guides that have nothing to do with the SRCM.  I've lived experiences of all intensities, from nothing to wonderful, whether alone or accompanied (with guide).

Sahaj Marg therefore offers a free service of the same order as other meditation techniques, but unlike many institutes of personal development, SRCM presents this technique along with restrictive and inevitable user's manual, a decryption template which comes directly from its belief system.  At SRCM, one can not meditate according to Sahaj Marg without adopting its culture and philosophy, and it explains both the lack of experience, and its highest intensities or its moments of depression. It provides as well both the method and the key to the interpretations of the successes and the failures, leaving nothing unknown so as to never let the adepts alone to reflect on their experience. Practice this meditation with another belief system, another framework, and you will come to totally other conclusions than those imposed on you by the SRCM.

Generally, the meditative experience is there waiting for you, although its intensity may vary, its failure and success are explained.   However, its spiritual aspect is less obvious, it is a matter of belief.  SRCM  customarily says that it is the Master's  transmission of divine energy to the disciple, because one must meditate on the love of the master and on his constant remembrance.   A true spiritual quest is to go in search of one's inner God through introspection and meditation. At the SRCM, it is an external God in the best case, but most likely, the Master or the preceptor. To each his own quest for the divine.

I know that I will ruffle more than one with such remarks. I certainly did not cover everything on the subject, I'm well aware. I do not pretend to hold the truth, this is MY truth at this moment. To each his own, the debate is more open than ever.

Michael often has advice which I really appreciate because they help me to think and grow.   I would be very happy to have his contribution on this particular subject of spiritual experience. This is a call for contributions, thank you to 4d-Don for relaying  my request to him if he has not read these lines.

Élodie 

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Friday, July 29, 2011

Sahaj Marg(tm) and DESTRUCTION!!

Taken from an article: "Destruction", by Elodie on her blog in Europe: Pour Que Vive Le Sahaj Marg

Comments and insertions by 4d-Don are in "red italics"

The saying, once used by Sahaj Marg(tm), does not seem to apply anymore:

"SPIRITUALITY unites and RELIGION/SPIRITALISM divides."

Sahaj Marg has not shown itself to unite even its own disciples and preceptors (and their families), and now, the abhyasis (practitioners) are being prepared for divisions in their own invented BRIGHTER WORLD, (with a "central region") where the saved will go "up" (heaven?) and the lost will go "down" (hell?)!! And they call their apocalyptic new religion "different" and "unique"?


Beware: Abhyasis are being prepared for a RELIGIOUS/SPIRITUALIST heaven and hell with some preferred position (space) in their "Brighter World" ("up") and some less preferred for the lost or the "left-behind" ("down").

This is NOT SPIRITUALITY but religion and SPIRITUALISM (Mediums, spirits, apocalyptic destructions and a "heaven and hell"!!

Sahaj Marg(tm) even divides their own invented "other worlds"!! They (the leadership) seem controlled by their reductionist or divisive MIND !
Or a spiritualist "ritual" of creating a divisive EGREGORE has been instigated by Chari, claiming it to come from Babuji! Egregores (Groupthink), like water always go to the "lowest common denominator" !!


July 29, 2011

Destruction

Chari's last speech at his birthday party unfortunately confirms our analysis on the apocalyptic turn of the Shri Ram Chandra Mission. After a long verse on the gangrenous corruption that plagues the world of politics in India, Chari concludes his speech with destruction and punishment, and the elite representatives of Sahaj Marg. Sad and regrettable, these populist and apocalyptic developments.


(...)

Babuji Maharaj told me some twenty years ago, he said, “
Dekho [Look], there is going to be destruction.”

Even now, our Whispers messages that we are getting, there is always talk of destruction. I am waiting one day for at least some hopeful message – not as long as we don’t change.

So what did Babuji Maharaj say when I asked him, “What about destruction? You are always talking about destruction.”

He said, “Yes.” And he was happy, he was laughing. He said, “Voh to hona hi hai. (It has to happen.)”

I said, “Babuji, what about sincere abhyasis who are devoted to you?”

He said, “Everybody will suffer when there is destruction.”

I asked him, “What is the use then of being an abhyasi?”

He said, “Itna sa farak hai, jo abhyasi hain, jo sincere hain, voh oopar jayenge, aur log neeche jaayenge.”

He said, “Those who are sincere abhyasis, dedicated, devoted, truthful, they will have to go but they will go up. The rest will go down. This is the difference.

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Chari confirms that the messages of Whispers distil gradually for the abhyasis, the idea of ​​inevitable destruction.

Babuji would have (allegedly) spoken to him twenty years ago, that is to say in 1991, seven years after his death. We did not know that Chari conversed directly with Babuji from the Brighter World. We even understand that the Whispers reached us via a medium (the anonymous French Lady Medium-AFLM) because Babuji could not communicate directly with Chari.

That upsets a little some of our knowledge, unless that at 84 years old, Chari is starting to ramble and mixes up the years, or it is only a lie. Earlier in his speech he said that the most elderly are the mostly corrupt. Should we apply to him, his own statement?

Regardless, he reports that Babuji tells him that the destruction is inevitable. However, it is undated and not explicit, leaving the possibility of interpretation in the future. As did Nostradamus in his time, he is opening until today, the field of the date interpretations to infinity.

Chari's reaction is interesting because he is concerned about the fate of the abhyasis, implying that they (the elite, the rewarded) should fare better than others. And Babuji to reassure him, said that even if they also have to suffer, they will fare better than the others (the impious, the barbarians, etc.)..

Chari, thank you for this shocking confirmation, Sahaj Marg is definitely dead and buried.

Elodie


See also:

The Punishment of the World and the Elite of Sahaj Marg(tm)
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Thursday, December 16, 2010

Babuji of Sahaj Marg = Tyrannosaurus Rex! Chari

Taken and translated from an article called: "Il Faut Mettre Babuji au Musée", Elodie's blog in Europe: Pour Que Vive Le Sahaj Marg

Comments by 4d-Don are in "red italics"



December 16, 2010


Babuji Belongs in a Museum



Babuji = Tyrannosaurus Rex




We've already talked here Chari's speech to officials of the Mission. Frank had transcribed for us some quotes about Bill Gates, the Pope and AIDS. The full speech is now repeated on the website of the SRCM. It's called "Morality is Essential." It was given Oct. 12, 2010 during a seminar on character development.

We find all ingredients to which Chari is attached, but also we find his characteristic manner of proceeding. That would deserve a line by line decryption to show the rhetoric he uses and to disassemble the mechanism.

For now, I draw your attention to one of the last paragraphs, here is a translation (find the original extract at the Sahaj Marg web site):

“(…) Scripture has no meaning, whether it is the Bible, or the Veda, or the Torah, or the Talmud, they have no meaning. The guru is the living Veda, as he is called. What he said, what he says, what he preaches, is the Veda that is today for us. The past is like the past of the dinosaurs, and other fossils, to be admired, to be looked at in museums. Not to be followed. Not to be afraid of. One is not afraid of the skeleton of a huge Tyrannosaurus Rex in a museum. We are afraid of the wrong things; we obey the wrong things; we live by the wrong things; and we abandon the only truth — that is the guru, who is the living personality, whose teaching is the Veda of today, and whose precepts light our way (…).”

"Scripture has no meaning..." but Chari promotes Hollywood science fiction as full of MEANING!! He even uses money gathered as "charity" to purchase science fiction books and places then in his "RETREATS"! Hmmm!! SPIRITUALITY? Spiritualism?? Magic? Fantasy?


The Living Guru is the Living Bible


What constitutes today the Bible, the Vedas, the Torah and the Talmud together? Is it the word of the (self-appointed) guru Chari? What becomes of the teachings of Sahaj Marg of yester-years, such as the ten maxims (or commandments) of Babuji? Or those of Lalaji? Are they to be stored in the museum alongside the Tyrannosaurus Rex as Chari seems to suggest?

Once again, Chari is doing as he pleases. Sudden, the past is fundamental, then sudden, it's only good for the museum. He follows when it suits him, or forgets if it's better for him.

Insidiously, Chari relegates Babuji to the dustbin of history.
The only thing that counts are the words of Chari, the one true living Guru today. A Chari who dethroned Babuji, that is the idea that must gradually be winning over the unconscious abhyasis.

Everything is done insidiously with finesse by suggestion, and certainly not by declaration. Chari denigrates the past as dinosaurs, deemed to be antediluvian, cheesy has-beens, and what have you. Babuji, Lalaji and the past of Sahaj Marg are never, ever denigrated directly. Instead, Chari mentions Babuji 23 times (if I am not mistaken) in support of his claims, and so as to give them even more weight. He is certainly not near a contradiction, even within a single speech.

Yet, what did he want to pass off as an idea? The idea that the past is only good for the museum. And by inference, association of ideas, or anything you like, that the past of Sahaj Marg is a bit outdated and it is him, Chari, the living master, the sole guru who must be heard (listened to) and followed.

What about "Whispers From the Brighter World" which Chari insists on putting up for sale and at so expensive a price to the abhyasis? In the light of what he says here, I suggest that he write his own Bible rather than entrust the drafting of a dusty Babuji to an un-reliable medium.

"Whispers" is good for the museum, the words that come from Chari's mouth make up today's new (Sahaj Marg) Bible. Unless this is to be the (Sahaj Marg) Bible of tomorrow, a new way to enrich his successor.

Elodie



See also:

"Whispers From The Brighter World" Becomes the New Bible of Sahaj Marg (Chari)

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Thursday, October 28, 2010

Sahaj Marg(tm)'s ULTIMATE Character!!

Taken and translated from an article by Claude, on Elodie's blog in Europe: Pour Que Vive Le Sahaj Marg.

Comments by 4d-Don are in "red italics"



Claude Said:


October 27, 2010


The Ultimate Character

Silence is the language of god, anything else than silence is profane (secular) and speech is vulgar.
Religion is at the foundation of everything that is bad. So says Chari in his speech on the ultimate character.

He would do well to be silent, he is also profane and vulgar, I might add pretentious to say that Sahaj Marg(tm) is not a religion. Meditation, cleaning, obedience are all as much rituals (in Sahaj Marg(tm), as anywhere else, in other religions.

It ends with a beauty, a pearl: God is NOTHING-ness, it leaves one to ponder.


Claude


Exerpts from : The Ultimate Character

Address to the Seminar for Character Development for the Functionaries in India, 9th October 2010, Chennai, India


“(…)
with the Sahaj Marg tradition, the Sahaj Marg teaching of my Masters that silence is the language of God, anything other than silence becomes something of a profane nature. (not only is ONE (God) silent (no sound, words, ideas, inspiration, etc...), IT also has no "FORM" (matter, energy, light (not even "imagined" light as in Sahaj Marg(tm)). IT is not contained or restricted in TIME or PLACE (IT is ETERNAL-ly in the PRESENT or NOW (not "infinity" which is a concept of TIME which has a beginning (Creation, Big Bang, stir, etc..) but no end, or x=x+1 and/or x=x-1) ONE is not MALE!! And ONE does not restrict women from being MASTERS !

(...) I believe, even in what you call japa [repetition of a mantra], the silent one is the most effective. (Do you know that for a "fact" or is this just another case of neophytes and their "book knowledge"? They will say anything to sell the product?) The one in which the lips move without sound coming out is a little less effective, and the one spoken out loud like in temples and other institutions of prayer is really to be considered vulgar — vulgar, not in the sense of what we understand today as sexual vulgarity or that sort of thing, but vulgar means from the high to the lowest.

(…) religion is at the root of all evil in India (OK!! And Sahaj Marg(tm) is a "new religion" ... hence ??? )

(...). Today’s religion is intellect, today’s politics is intellect, and the intellect is all based on selfishness (svaartha). (try "emotional" ... and we'll agree with you ... Intellectuals don't agree with you! Even Religion and Spiritualist groups are "emotional" !!)

(…) We are asked to love God.
(not by GOD! ... God does not need anything. LOVE ONE ANOTHER!!)

There is no concept of worship in Sahaj Marg. (lol lol lol or "love" eh? Just "obedience" to the point of killling one's mother?? No worship for God but for the GURU? Adulation and idolatry!! Look at the "idols" around your Ashrams) Please understand Sahaj Marg carefully, faithfully, with all your focus on the truth of what Sahaj Marg has revealed to us: impeccable truths, truths beyond what the Vedas have given us, beyond what religion can ever give us, because religions don’t give us the truth. (And Sahaj Marg (tm) or Chari teaches the children that flawed theology that: "God is male and that nature is female", and that "women can't be Masters"... and that homosexuality is "un-natural"!! )

(…)

You have to be evolved out of this caste, out of the religion which has this caste, out of this society which has this religion, and out of this world which has these societies. That is liberation. (and the abhyasis have jumped into another "caste, religion, society ... no LIBERATION at all... you are not liberated simply because you are "Indian" or "Brahmin"!! Liberate yourself (from the material) before you preach LIBERATION...) That is the aim of spiritual life — the first aim is liberation. Babuji said it is the lowest; don’t ennoble it to such an extent just because it was difficult or almost impossible in the past. It is the least.

(...) Remember that by definition in Sahaj Marg, God is nothingness. It is not correct to say there is nothing, it is of the nature of nothingness: no wisdom, no intellect, no knowledge, no wealth, no power (no Sahaj Marg(tm)... no new RELIGION... no new "gang" or society...) )

(…).

So you are not asked to examine yourself, or do this or do that. Meditate, remove everything progressively, and then you will find that from a character, with which I was born, if my sadhana is perfect, regular, in accordance with the principles of the Ten Maxims, I will find I am a soul which has no character. (Is this called: Soul-ism or Spirituality... Soul is another invention of Religion and its SPIRITUALISM!! BE SPIRIT NOW!! )

(…)

So between me and my goal, between my progress of being born with an ego to being a soul without an ego, nothing stands as a hindrance except my ego. So we have to work on that. That is what the cleaning is for." (and the cleaning works, they claim ... see how "ego-less" they all are.... and even Chari says that his "preceptors and abhyasis" are arrogant ... Does that not also apply to one who does battle and divides his own "sheep" so as to "CONTROL" the Material?? Chari!! )

(…)




4d-Don said:



Hello Claude and all...


And there's more ... on their site ...

http://www.sahajmarg.org/audio/talks/oct-12-2010-chennai

Chari, in his speech of Oct. 12, 2010 to the prefects and functionaries (at 7:40 of the speech), points (with three fingers pointing at himself) a finger at the Catholic Pope, who apparently has offered a special prayer for the poor who are suffering from AIDS ... Chari called it "moral degradation" ... because the Pope did not offer prayers for those suffering from other diseases (at this particular time) ... one can surmise that he did at other times... That is after all what they do: PRAY! And for everything!

And Sahaj Marg (tm) them, they pray for peace so as to coat themselves with the flag of the United Nations (see: http://4d-don.blogspot.com/2010/06/srcm-california-1997-and-undpi.html ) and to thus gain a bit of credibility with people who do not know them ... while declaring war on their own "Ancient prefects and preceptors" who did not want to serve Chari ...

And in the "special prayer" for peace, there is no mention of floods, earthquakes, fires, etc. ... etc. ..., for them it is a sign of "holiness" ... or of Spirituality!

The religious hypocrites! ... They're all the same!

The hypocrites, these large "dry" faces , they will burn well in (their) hell! ;-)) (Their SHAME!)

Chari then sets his sites on the "gays" again, referring to them (marriages) and comparing sex between consenting adults of the same gender as bestiality, and he called it: "animism" ... LOL LOL (look at the definition of the words)

One would have to be a bit dense to follow these spiritualists ... with their (anonymous) Mediums, and their messages from heaven ...

Quacks! (charlatans ... Lemming ALERT!! Watch out for that "cliff"!! )

Don ...


Wednesday, October 27, 2010



Short exerpt of Chari's Speech of Oct. 12, 2010:

http://www.sahajmarg.org/audio/talks/oct-12-2010-chennai

"...People like Bill Gates, he is willing to give billions, for AIDS. Even the pope, when Babuji Maharaj and I were [unintelligible] (in the Vatican?) some years ago, said a special prayer for AIDS sufferers. This shows our moral degradation, you see. They don't want the tuberculosis patients, paralytic patients, heart patients..., the idea being that these people are rich enough to afford their own cure.

THAT is moral degradation, when a pope says [Chari chuckles] a special prayer [chuckles again].

So you see, it is from below to the top or the other way down ... when churches condone you know, same-sex marriages, perform same-sex marriages. Soon a day will come when perhaps in ... or ... [unintelligible place names] (in ?? or in Barcelona or something like that?) you'll find a man marrying a cow."


If Chari's fictional "a man" is a homosexual , meaning: practicing consentual sex with the same gender (also? ... in many cases), but not sex with different species or animals, then this particular homosexual (and "un-natural" man, according to Chari) man, if he is also into "bestiality", he may want to marry a "bull", not a cow. Is that worse?? As long as it's not a "slava bull" (dark complexion), eh ?
;-))

One can hardly call that "consentual sex".
But Chari's whole premise is "bull-crap" anyway ... to be gay or homosexual does not mean to be into "bestiality" or any other deviancy.

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Sunday, August 09, 2009

Chari's 82nd or 83rd Birthday Bash

Taken and translated (by 4d-don) from a comment by Alexis on Elodie's Blog in France: Pour Que Vive Le Sahaj Marg:



Sunday, August 09, 2009



Chari's 82nd or 83rd birthday. As you like, it is your choice!

According to the SRCM (California-1997), 34 830 people attended the (Chari's Birthday) ceremonies on the 23rd, 24th and 25the of July, 2009, of which about 4,000 were children. 96% were Indians, versus only 1,527 who were foreigners. Among the Indians, more than two thirds of them lived in only 4 states: 3 states from the Horn of South India (Tamil Nadu, Andhra Pradesh and Karnataka) and Uttar Pradesh, the home of the historic SRCM. The state of Tamil Nadu by itself accounted for more than one quarter of the abhyasis present, the ceremony taking place at Tiruppur in the same state, as well it is in the state where the Mission headquarters are located.

It is really not far from the true representation of Sahaj Marg in India and in the World ...

On July 24th, 2009, as a speech, Chari read a message which he apparently received from Babuji. On two occasions, the latter exclaims that time is passing, "time is pressing", without one knowing too well what to do (about it). And he concluded with these words: "do not waste your time (...) time flies." To use the word "time" four times in a short message, is revealing. Does Chari feel it the end coming? In any case, he puts on the pressure ...

His speech the next day focused on religion. And it appears to be the classic version of Chari's Sahaj Marg: "Where spirituality begins, religion ends" or "Religion has no God, God has no religion." He adds: "Today's wars are all about religion. The biggest problem facing humanity today is religion." And later, "I pray that all of you will awaken." But no, no, rest assured, Chari is not starting a new crusade of these modern times. He took time to explain: "We do not preach that we destroy religion. We are not here to break temples or idols." Whew, that is reassuring. It was time! After the speech of the night before, where Babuji apparently said (through the mouth of Chari?) that "time was pressing", and this fierce charge by Chari against religion, one was entitled to ask questions.

Well, yes! By the way, time is pressing, but to do what, then?

Alexis

4d-Don's Comments: What does Chari and the "Sahaj Marg" abhyasis do when "time is pressing"? Have a Birthday bash for Chari!! And that, to the SRCM (California-1997) gang, is "spirituality" as opposed to those who stay at home and "MEDITATE" or "commune" with the Divine or with LIFE.

Somewhere along the road, Chari misses the point. What he calls "corrupt" for other religions, (POMP and CEREMONY, or parties), he condones for himself and his "serfs" ... Is there not a societal word for that condition? Hypocrisy!!

The parallel in Christianity is Pope Leo X, who's corrupt pompous and ceremonious actions and hedonistic and sensually orgasmic birthday bashes, brought about the "Protestant Reformation". The parallel in today's politics (besides the scandals around "birthday bashes" in Indian politics) is dictator Mugabe of Zimbabwe, who celebrates his birthday lavishly while the masses of Zimbabwe-ans are in "a health and financial crisis".

One notices that the "children" are used at these parties, by most pyramidal religions' leadership as well as by political dictators... There is not more "honour" in Sahaj Marg than in the other RELIGIONS Chari calls "corrupt"!! By Chari's own standards, Sahaj Marg is also "corrupt". Parties cost money! Charity money!! Money that could help the POOR ... not charity money spent on a birthday party for the Indian well-to-do business and nationalist community and their children.

Babuji would say that Sahaj Marg is for those 18 years of age and older and would not indulge is such nationalist hedonism and "materialism" using the children for his egotistical "glory" ... Why is Chari using the children as all religions do?? For his ego?

And according to Chari, in his speech above, "Religion has no God" ??? Silly and Wrong! Also, according to Chari, God is MALE. At least, that is the falsehood or the outright "LIE" that Chari teaches to the children. And the violence and the battles inside the SRCM are also about RELIGION!! The "hypocrites" point at others so that the people they target don't look at them!! Chari is no "philosopher" or Saint!!


Sunday, July 12, 2009

The Sahaj Marg BIBLE? ... According to WHOM??

It seems that Babuji, who invented Sahaj Marg in 1945, and founded and registered the Shri Ram Chandra Mission (SRCM) in India, as a "society" will not be predominant in his "BIBLE". It appears that according to Chari, the current President and Master of SRCM (California - 1997), the Whispers from the Brighter World series of "opulent" books will become the Sahaj Marg BIBLE.

Who will be the alleged "ghost writers" for the "all new" Sahaj Marg Bible that will come out of the channeled messages allegedly received by a French lady "medium" who is also an "abhyasi", but "not a professional" (medium), and written and sold as an "opulent" series of books called: Whispers From The Brighter World, all according to Chari? ( in Chari's own words in Italics)

The first volume was sold in April, 2008 for $250.00 US. The second volume (April, 2009), was sold for $150.00 US. There will apparently be another "whisper" in April, 2010 and yet another "whisper" in April, 2011. Chari also gives a hint that there could be more "whispers" indefinitely, since these will not be reprinted until 2050, so "buy them now" and have a "collector's item" ... or as the sales shpeel goes, "become blessed" to have the first edition, that can erase one's samskaras (impression on the soul) if one reads the messages "over and over" up to "seven or eight times", according to Chari.

(see the many "Whispers From The Brighter World" articles on this blog)

According to the "invitation" (by Chari) to purchase the book (that has now morphed into the series of book (S)) which is on their web site: Sahaj Marg Spirituality Foundation, the four message givers are:

Message Giver # 1

A medium, who is not a professional, has passed on these messages to me after my Master gave orders that they be made available to me. She is a sister-abhyasi of the Sahaj Marg system of spiritual practice. I have recorded messages from four sources, all of them beloved to me, and all beyond question. The first is my mother, Janaki, who passed away in the year 1933 leaving behind four children, three boys of whom I am the eldest, and the fourth child a girl, who followed her mother when she was but three years old.

No comment by 4d-don about Chari' s mother's "liberated", "heavenly" or "Brighter World" status. She passed away in 1933, before Babuji founded his SRCM, invented Sahaj Marg, and before her son, Chari, became involved with Babuji and Sahaj Marg ... If anyone believes, or gives these messages any status or importance in the Sahaj Marg Bible, they are free to do so, and they will deserve what they get! I don't believe that Babuji, or any wise person, would take the word of an "anonymous" medium about a message allegedly from an un-named group of spirits which another anonymous and also un-named Medium claims to be "Chari's mother". In Spiritualism, and its messages from beyond the grave, the caveat is BELIEVER BEWARE!

According to this "anonymous" French lady Medium, Babuji apparently "gave orders" that the messages from the "others" (Lalaji, Chari's wife, and Chari's mother, and his own) be made available to Chari.
That sounds unlikely! Lalaji, being the "elder", would decide for himself what to do with his messages. I guess that Chari was not sensitive enough to get his "messages" directly. Or was Babuji refusing to talk to Chari? (pouting? angry at him?) How can we question or challenge this "anonymous" lady's credibility? The importance to SRCM is that you BUY THE BOOKS ... Credibility does not seem to be very important in Chari's SPIRITUALISM!!

Message Giver # 2


The second entity who has graced me with his messages is the Grand Master of the spiritual system hailed as Sahaj Marg, now spread all over the globe. He is a personality with whom I have had no personal relationship, since Lalaji Maharaj, as Mahatma Ram Chandraji of Fatehgarh was popularly known, attained Mahasamadhi, preceding my mother into the Brighter World when I was five years old. I have been blessed with spiritual experiences wherein He has graced me with His spiritual presence on several occasions. On a few occasions I have been blessed with direct sittings too from Lalaji Maharaj.

Lalaji passed away in 1931, Chari's mother passed away in 1933. Babuji registered his society, the Shri Ram Chandra Mission (SRCM) in India, in 1945. Babuji passed away in 1983. Chari Registered his SRCM (California - 1997) in San Luis Obispo, California, in 1997. The "channeled messages" are sold as "whispers" in 2008.

Lalaji has an existing succession in the Sufi Order,
NaqshMuMRa and in the RamAshram. Babuji was not a "preceptor" of Lalaji and met him a few times when Babuji was 18 yearrs old. Babuji registered the Shri Ram Chandra Mission (SRCM) 13 years aftet Lalaji's death in 1945. See "Lalaji is our Master!", they all claim on this blog.


Message Giver # 3

The third person to bless us with His messages is Babuji Maharaj, my spiritual Master, who has filled my life to the brim with His loving presence, His teachings, and His divine love, starting with my very first meeting with Him in Shahjahanpur way back in 1964. His loving and patient guidance have followed me throughout the forty years of my sadhana under the Sahaj Marg system, and even today that same guidance, filled with His love and compassion, is generously made available to me through these messages. Lalaji Maharaj rediscovered the Sahaj Marg system of spiritual practice, and my Master spread it all over the world, during the years 1972 to 1982, when I was closely associated with Him in his work carried out through the Shri Ram Chandra Mission.

Lalaji passed away in 1931. To say: "Lalaji Maharaj rediscovered the Sahaj Marg system of spiritual practice, (...) is stretching the truth to the maximum. Do your research and see the true Sufi lineage of Lalaji and see what they say Lalaji "rediscovered" and left for them and mankind.

Read the interviews with Dinaysh the "dean" of Lalaji's family's organization and see their site : NaqshMuMRa Nexus, where they publish a letter by Babuji from 1963.

Message Giver # 4

My wife Sulochana, who departed for the Brighter World in November 1999, is the fourth giver of messages, having secured her place in my Master's heart in His lifetime, and now seated at His divine feet in the Brighter World.

Comment by 4d-don... If anyone believes that, they deserve what they get!

Chari, in his speech: Read with your heart, he says:
"You are all familiar with the messages that were published a couple of years ago, under the title Whispers from the Brighter World - mainly messages from Babuji Maharaj, but also containing messages from Lalaji Sahib and some other highly spiritualized entities. " Now you know who are the "highly spiritualized entities", Chari's wife and his mother.

Chari's theology sounds like the Religious "salvation" of many religions, with the
saved "sittin on a cloud" in the Brighter World or in "heaven", or at "His divine feet". "His", would hopefuly be the feet of Ram Chandra Saxena (Babuji), a male (His), and not the feet of the ONE SPIRIT, or what Chari calls his "male" GOD (with the attributes "maleness" and now of "feet"?? ... at least we hope that Chari's male GOD is not a PERSON and does not also have "feet".

So as to be honest and accurate, the trade-marked Sahaj Marg of Chari should now be called "Spiritualism" not SPIRITUALITY !! Not Raja Yoga !! And with not much of a "theology". Christianity with it's Master, Jesus the Christ as part of the "TRINITY" of their Triune God, is being challenged for credibility. NOT !!

So much for the so-called SPIRITUALITY of the neo-Spiritual Groups of the NEW AGE!!

Note that the pronoun "His", to apparently signify Chari's Master (Babuji?) is capitalized but also note that the word "divine" or coming from the ONE "DIVINITY" is not!! I would write it: "his Divine feet", and give the most important (capitalized) reverence to the CREATOR of Babuji and of ALL, ONE!



The last sentence in his "invitation" to purchase his "gift" contains his "carrot and the stick" or as Chari calls it, the Religious tactic of "Fear and Temptation".

I think Chari is talking about himself, and about the SRCM (California - 1997) abhyasis and his own "inner circle", not about us who have left this group, and are not serving the "
forces of hatred, willful violence and religious bigotry" any more. Chari and his current group are doing that. The only real threats I get in this life, are from the "SRCM (California - 1997) "humanity", not from an apocalyptic "instant extinction" from nature or from the ONE. The forces of "hatred and wilful violence and religious bigotry" are alive inside the adherents (adhesive, glue, as in "stuck") to religions, including the Sahaj Marg of SRCM (California - 1997) !!

May these messages bring new hope to threatened humanity, threatened with instant extinction by the forces of hatred, wilful violence and religious bigotry.

My reply:

Yes...Yes... Lies, scams, and the un-ethical and immoral games and scams of "spiritualists" and megalomaniac miracle workers, and other "pseudo-enlightened" have always brought hope to humanity. (lol... sarcasm!). NOT!! Now go home and meditate and reduce your carbon footprint, searching for a GOD which is everywhere. Sahaj Marg (tm) has made some more cynical, but many of our species are still gullible and naive and still want to believe in such fantasies that are woven and used by "businessmen scammers".

Now, in REALITY, the hope we the victims of SRCM and Sahaj Marg get from this, is that finally, thanks to the technology, we can expose them from their beginning. We don't have to lobby the newspapers, radio stations, TV stations, publishing houses, etc... anymore so as to get our message out.
We, the information miners, the INFONAUTS are now the MEDIA.

Scammers Beware!! Religious start praying!!