The Sahaj Marg Recipe Book??

Taken from a comment by Sam on Elodie's (French discussion) Blog: Pour Que Vive le Sahaj Marg

4d-Don said:

How does Sahaj Marg get money from the "serfs"? BOOKS, BOOKS BOOKS! And of course, seminars and retreats where there are many souvenirs and icons (pictures, tapes, dvd's etc..) for sale. It's MARKETING. Check out the travel, lodging and food for the seminars, and see if they are not supplied by "an inner-circle member".

Now the SRCM preceptors (priest) will be selling four (4) volumes of "Whispers from the Brighter World", (the new Sahaj Marg BIBLE) at an exhorbitant price of $150.00. Everyone will be expected to have it so they can read and re-read over and over so as to become LIBERATED. Then there will be the many other books compiled from the regurgitated speeches (ramblings) of Chari. And now there is a "recipe" book! What's next? A spiritual "sports manual"? A spiritual "how-to repair your car" book? Spiritual Capitalism is what SRCM has become!!

Then the refrain will be: "bail us out" time again! Year after year!! You will pay for your FREE Spirituality in SPADES! You, the preceptors have a duty to your fellowperson to tell the truth to the NEW MEMBERS!! This spiritual journey is not FREE!! It is not free in monetary terms, in emotional terms, in intellectual terms or in spiritual terms. This is Marketing of the lowest (immoral) form, and the preceptor is expected to be the "arteries" of the religious pyramid scheme. Guilt will clog the arteries. Are there any mirrors around the house? You will want to get rid of them, or you will have to face yourself and change and transform and leave this gang of religious "scammers"!!

The SRCM (California-1997) Preceptors will be expected to lie and manipulate, and tell the "new members" that Sahaj Marg is FREE ... This is the religious "immorality" of "spiritual capitalism", at SRCM (California-1997) that is said (by them) to lead to the "GREAT MORALITY" (the ONE, the ULTIMATE, the UNITY). NOT!!!

SRCM (California-1997) and their "registered TRADE mark" Sahaj Marg, will continue to divide and create more tension and stress in society.



Sam said:

Sahaj Marg Recipes?

On a slightly different topic, I just received news from the USA. They are creating a book containing Sahaj Marg recipes and are asking all for their best recipes. But what is this exactly? What is this strange new idea? Another vegetarian recipe book? And what is a Sahaj Marg recipe? What will there be in this book? A "Special" Chocolat Fondue, a gastronomic samskara, the Master's salad, Babuji's zucchini au gratin?

The story is authentic and I await to see the book that will come out. Beyond the ridiculous, one can really ask one's self, where is this poor Sahaj Marg going?


Sam


4d-don said:

It sounds like another shallow idea someone got from Christian "miracle maker and televangelist" Peter Popoff and his "Miracle Manna" (made from a "special" Biblical recipe). They use this wafer as a Power Point or as a "come on" so as to get MONEY from the sheep.

Watch and see if some of the Sahaj Marg recipes are not "channeled" by a Medium, and become part of the ALL NEW Sahaj Marg BIBLE (Whispers from the Brighter World). I would wager that some foods will be said to "erase samskaras", and some will "liberate" the eater as it should be "tasteless" and not be appealing to the senses, thus becoming a TRAP, a habit or an addiction. Will there be a contest for the "most hedonistic" or decadent recipe? Will taste be a "no-no"? WE are spiritual after all... are the senses now to be "pampered" with (spicy) FOOD? ... Will the book and the food be OPULENT and or DECADENT? According to the quote below by Chari, the recipes in this "RECIPE BOOK" should give "no pleasure"!!

Here is a direct quote from one side of Chari's mouth about the mythic "fall of Mankind", which he would liberate us from: "But we have converted our senses into pleasure seeking instruments, and therein lies the fall of mankind."

The Purpose of Human Life: Speech by Chari at Raipur, India, Mar 18, 2009

See comments by 4d-don: The Purpose of Life! Develop More Religions! (Chari)


What a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive! (Sir Walter Scott)

In religious and spiritual groups, the saying goes: No sex please we are spiritual. But the hedonism "orgies of FOOD" and IDOLATRY at "birthday parties" for the pseudo-Guru, are RELIGIOUS, so they are acceptable in the spirituality of Sahaj Marg, which by the way, claims to be a modified Raja Yoga ...

Specially when some POOR still have nothing to eat, to use food to raise money for "concrete structures and parking lots in paradise" in the name of SPIRITUALITY is GROSS and so materialist.

GET YOUR PRIORITIES STRAIGHT!

HUMAN LIFE is more important than Ashrams, Temples and Churches.


WHY a Sahaj Marg Recipe Book??

Is this another SRCM (California-1997) Manipulation of the "serfs"?

Will we now have another "book of recipes by amateurs", poorly researched, making wild claims and/or attempting to pre-empt other better Raja Yoga food literature that is now out there, simply to "make money" for the SRCM (California-1997) profiteers and opportunists . The Master will no doubt meditate on each recipe and decide if it is DIVINE or NOT ... like a "televangelist" or a charlatan.

Maybe now the "spiritual clan" will realize why they are so arrogant and egotistical !! IT'S the FOOD! The Spices! Don't eat that "stimulant" food according to "raja yoga" and expect to "BE SPIRITUAL"!!

In cursory and superficial research of "stimulant" foods which are also called "rajasic foods", (from Raja Yoga) one finds that:

see: Stimulant Foods:

They help to create aggressive and dominating thoughts to emerge, especially towards others. Helps create a huge ego. As in, when someone wants to be the best in the clan and will keep everyone down to advance.

Stimulant foods energize and develop the manipura (navel) chakra and body but do not promote advancement in the higher chakras.

Such foods include: coffee, tea, cola drinks, chocolate, hot spices, salt, and also sugar, drugs, (poppies, marijuana, cocaine, etc... in oil, seed, leaf, flower, etc...) synthetic preservatives and stimulants, etc.. etc... etc...

NOW GIVE US YOUR Sahaj Marg "spiritual" RECIPE which will be sold back to you for CASH !! A recipe which has HEALED YOU, and FREED YOU, and LIBERATED YOU! You can bet we will be commenting on your arrogance and ignorance!!

Hope for the Teachings of Babuji

Taken from Elodie's blog: Pour Que Vive le Sahaj Marg, in a article called: Hope Finally


Hope Finally!


The End of Despair

Three years ago, when I started this blog, I signed: "The Desperate Abhyasi". Because the drifting of the Shri Ram Chandra Mission seemed irremediably to lead the teaching of Sahaj Marg into the throes of power and the money kings.

What I did not know then, and what took me so long to understand, is that next to the trademarked Sahaj Marg ®,there survived in India, the real Sahaj Marg as taught by Babuji, with personalities such as Sister Kasturiji and/or KC Narayana, the son of Dr. KC Varadachari and many other obscure senior preceptors.

Today we know the truth, we have no more excuses. Everyone should resign from the Mission (SRCM California-1997) en masse , and abandon his/her guru to himself, and as well, his cronies. Everyone should go to meet the true defenders of the still-alive tradition of Sahaj Marg.

Narayana and Kasturiji have in their time, obediently followed the advice of Babuji and accepted the appointment of Parthasarathi Rajagopalachari to the presidency of the SRCM. It is because of the developments inside the Mission that they have kept their distance; because of the idolatry of the abhyasis towards their guru that they have withdrawn; because of the evolution of this same guru, for whom this (adulation) went to his head, that they have worked in isolation.

It is time to let as many people know, especially we Westerners who live away from India and its daily actuality. An alternative exists, there is no need for despair (any more), there is no more reason to hesitate, not even for a moment.

Those who oppose this, reject anything that is somewhat spiritual. One really has to see evil everywhere, to criticize Narayana and/or Kasturi. They do nothing but pass on the traditional teaching of the true Sahaj Marg, that they have received from Babuji.

Elodie


* Kasturi http://kasturibhenji.blogspot.com/ (membership only)
* Narayana http://www.sriramchandra.org/



Anonymous said:

You are right (for me)...

I have already left the Shri Rajagopalachari Church Movement and have begun a meditation with a "Kasturi" group.



Cri-cri said:
(Christian is an 18 year ex-abhyasis of SRCM who went to Narayana's ISRC for a short stint. Christian is a Phd in psychology and a psycho-linguist.

See his "French with some English" blog: Analyse de la SRCM)


Hello Elodie!

For the teaching of Sahaj marg tm to be effective and bring about the results promised, a teacher who cares and helps the individual abhyasis spiritually is needed.

This means that for 1 teacher, the amount of followers must be limited, under the penalty that the teaching becomes overwhelmed and unable to provide the service. Ask the prez, then, how many abhyasis they are able to "treat".

Chari the megalomaniac, wants a following with 9 zeros (billion) when he fails to manage a number with 5 zeros (one hundred thousand), and this (number) for the sake of the promise he claims to have made to his master, probably in his dreams.

Narayana is certainly aware of this and he does not want to accommodate all the abhyasis of SRCMtm, I do not know how it is for Kasturi, but let us have one's feet on the ground for 2 minutes.

First, the abhyasis of SRCMtm are completely brainwashed, (so mentally rotten) by the doctrine of Chari. How many years will it take them to liberate themselves from the mental toxins of that crazy man?

Second, you start from the idea that Chari's abhyasis are seeking spirituality, but is that true? They are victims of a system of marketing, seduction and fascination, and are in their (SRCM California-1997) mental grasp. That's what they sought, because if they had sought spirituality, they would also spontaneously be elsewhere, using their hearts.

Why are you looking for the abhyasis to leave SRCMtm?

Our actions aim at encouraging people to think, so as to restore the Sahaj Marg to the the SRCM. If all the abhyasis do what you propose, it is the destruction of Sahaj Marg that will result, where it still exists.

Cricri

Sunday April 12, 04:51:00 PM



Peter said:

(Peter is an ex-preceptor of SRCM (California-1997) who is now a preceptor with ISRC (Narayana))

Hello Elodie,

I loved your comment ... And if I am not here to proselytize, because:

1 / It is not my style
2 / It would do nothing .. !
3 / To each his responsibility.

What is incredible is precisely that, despite the information on your blog, things have not moved ... ! After the SRCM, I met Narayana, and I was super riled against the drifting of the SRCM, and against Chari, and I thought of finding a sympathetic ear. Instead, Narayana (almost) died laughing. I did not understand ... ! I have been slowly understanding the message he wanted to pass on to me .. All those years spent at the SRCM, it was my responsibility ... What can I say? ! To each his own responsibility, we can not blame others indefinitely for this or that ...

Waiting for more...

Peter

Sunday April 12, 06:40:00 PM



4d-don said:


Elodie ...

You say: Everyone should resign en masse from the Mission, to abandon the guru to himself and his cronies. Everyone should go to meet the true defenders of the still-alive tradition of Sahaj Marg.

I agree with the first sentence.

But I would not counsel any person "to go and meet the real defenders of the stll-alive tradition (...) of Sahaj Marg".

It seems there are still many "distortions of the truth" among several senior preceptors, and even with Babuji at the very founding of Sahaj Marg, which could surface later in the character of the "followers". Then all should decide "day by day" if the Sahaj Marg deserves their confidence as a spiritual path to achieve the realization of the ULTIMATE (if that is even possible).

Can a "lie" lead to "truth"? Everyone has to choose and decide for themselves ... A path that divides the inside of the society (SRCM), and the outside that is the families of the abhyasis, and which seems to adversely affect the character of its followers, making them emotional, arrogant, and lacking in love for the neighbor, the family, friends, does not have "carte blanche" by those who have done the hard research.

There even seems to be a betrayal of the country (culture) of residence of the (foreign) abhyasis, in favour of a mock patriotism towards India. Several of the abhyasis who do not volunteer in their own societies, parishes and cities think themselves "blessed of the Divine" because they help the rich build "private schools" with 14 foot ceilings. Many of our "public" schools are "mobiles".

We must never suggest blind obedience to any spiritual/religious path that makes promises that can not be verified, such as REALITY, or their "REAL Beatitude", or other states without definitions, or even a seat in their mythical "Brighter World" (heaven?).

4d-don

Monday April 13, 06:35:00 AM



Elodie said:

Hello all,

The teaching of Sahaj Marg, the true, may not be free from criticism, but this does not prevent me from feeling that the words of Sister Kasturiji are a breath of fresh air after years of wandering and despair.

At least acknowledge that.

Rather fondly,
Elodie

Monday April 13 10:13:00 AM

4d-don said:

OK! Agreed ... but just for THAT! ;-))

4d-don



Cri-cri said:

Hello Elodie,

I understand that one is looking for the person one can have confidence in, that one aspires ardently.

Opening one's heart to another results in the submission of loving abandonment. If the other is not entirely abandoned to the divine, but to a mental idol, it is not freedom that we find but it is slavery to the slave of another.

An mental idol, this may be the service to the mission, the adoration (adulation) of Babuji, the Koran, the idea of god, personal success or a figure of 25 zeros before the decimal point.

It seems that some people consider certain mental idols as preferable to others because they would attach one to the exit door. All are a trap, some are a subtle trap.

The teacher living Master there not to separate the role of a disciple of the icon for that at some point it is fully franked?

Does the Living Master not have the duty of detatching the disciple from the idol, so that at some point, the disciple is totally "liberated".

A Living Master such as Chari attaches his disciples to the 3M (Master, Mission, Method) and can not have a master status, he is a scammer seeking personal service, he asks the abhyasis to serve the 3M to help realize the promise that he made to his master.

Where I am perplexed, and I must admit quite lost is when I find among the followers of Babuji this subtle idolatry. I still can not understand, I think it lacks something essential for the continuity of this spiritual lineage to be there.

No matter how I turn the problem around, I see that time passes and I always come to the same un-appealing solution. However, those who are in the heart (seem to) derive total satisfaction.

Cricri

Tuesday April 14, 03:29:00 PM

Shashwat said...

Well i do not agree with the content of this topic, I have posted a reply to this view on my blog, http://srcmcultofindia.blogspot.com/2009/04/sahaj-marg.html

Regards
Shashwat

April 23, 2009 5:25:00 PDT AM

Sahaj Marg, SRCM(California 1997), and the "Fake Spiritual Guru"!

See this short but great article using a Youtube interview by Dr. Acharya Shree Yogeesh, the founding Guru of Yogeesh Ashram, founded in the Anaheim hills, and now registered as a "non-profit" organization, in Riverside, California in 1995, with a retreat center opened in April, 2008, near Dallas,Texas. The author uses the words from Chari's speeches, the current Master of SRCM (California-1997), to expose an alleged "fake guru":

(click here) A Fake Spiritual Guru


Will we soon have "certification" bodies for Gurus and their "preceptors" (priests), as we have for other "mental health" professionals such as psychologists, psychiatrists, and/or therapists? Even with pharmacists, the "preceptors" (clinical teachers) of the pharmacists teaching program at the University of Texas, has established some criteria and standards. See: Becoming an Effective Preceptor Program at University of Texas.

Some religious and spiritual practitioners, much like many pharmaceuticals used by Mental Health practitioners target (knowingly or not) the pineal and other glands, and their secretions (melatonin, dopamine, etc...) in their claims to scientifically "balance" the individual, thus making him/her happy, content or blissful. Whether the "targets" are called by the more religious "disciple, follower, adept, abhyasis, etc... or the more secular and/or medical: client, patient, case, etc..., the claims of the religious/spiritual "preceptor", and the "pharmacist" establishment "preceptor" should be overseen by an "at arm's length" body.

This is more so, specially when the founders of these "meditation" systems include in their material an "age warning" (18 yrs old) and when their literature contains the dangers, and incidents of "over-dose" in the past. When the "hammered" (see Speech by Chari) pressure of believing and adhering to certain "religious dogmas and rituals" leads to documented cases of suicide or attempted murder (arranged marriages by the "sect leader"), is it not a sign that the "medicine" (blind obedience or becoming a "living dead") is handled too "cavalierly" and that the "cure" is more harmful than the disease in some cases. Is it not time for "oversight"?

4d-Don (Infonaut and blog owner)

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Sahaj Marg, Spiritual Tourism and "The India Syndrome"!

Taken and translated from a comment by Martin on Elodie's blog in France: Pour Que Vive Le Sahaj Marg
(see comments to article called: An Open Letter, by Alexis


Martin Said:

Did you know that India is the only country where the consulate of France has put in place a psychiatric service to deal with the mental health problems manifested by French nationals.

All those who have gone to India can testify to a very intriguing world, sometimes unbearable.

The travel journal of Cyril (see previous post) is a good example!

For Regis Airault, psychiatrist, it is the "shock of India". Long positioned at the French consulate in Bombay, he met hundreds of Westerners who slipped into anxiety, panic or were staggered shortly after landing. Therefore he wanted to analyze this "Indian syndrome" (In "Crazy in India", Payot 2000.)

"Upon arrival in the country, it manifests itself as an inexplicable anxiety or sadness. A few weeks later, more alarming symptoms such as psychotic hallucinations or delusions, may occur in some travelers." They live a real depersonalization, which I call " the race of India," says the psychiatrist. These travelers begin by losing their money, their belongings, before forgetting their name, their identity, and they fall into a kind of wander lust, or experience wild feelings of ecstasy ... Because India, the land of a thousand temples and ashrams, wakes up the "mystical feeling" of the most rationalist. "It is only when they re-attach themselves to a stronger symbol of their own culture, by consulting a french doctor for example, that they take up little by little a foothold in reality." Most of the returnees found their psychological health balance upon returning to their country of origin. Apart from some severe cases - drug addicts or those with marginal psychiatric history, which have become "disconnected" because they no longer have limits - most of the victims are rather balanced and structured personalities. It is truly the immersion in the country that has triggered a decompensation, a collapse of their usual defenses. "

All is becoming "globalized" and spirituality too, spiritual tourism works very well in India, boosted by Westerners in search of solution to make their "mortitude" (certainty of death) more bearable.

In India, they have a choice, this "land of a thousand gods," offers a scale of proposition that is unique on the entire planet.

For them death is a celebration, at home it is still taboo. We do not transgress such cultural barriers and leave without feathers (sticking to one's self).

What is flagrantly evident in the testimony of Cyril, is this agitation (nervous), this rush, this excitement, which evokes more hysteria and delirium, than mystical spiritual elevation.

Confusing ego and natural defenses and landmarks, the followers, too often leaving their ego, end up losing any relation to reality.

It is as if their ego was butting against another more daunting ego: "I found ... I know", and that certainty is an ego trap, a bondage (slavery), one hour before death (living dead). It prevents the follower from moving freely, intimately, naturally, so as to attempt to approach the truth that no one can ever really understand because it contains us all!

Cyrille advises Don (earlier comment):

"There is in the heart a point called the" point of discernment, "I counsel you to meditate, because if you put in one basket: Jesus, Muhammad, Caesar, Attila, Hitler, Buddha, Ben Laden ? There is something to ask questions ... "

Cyril must not be meditating on the right point in the heart (point of discernment), or it is the wrong point, if it exists at all, but what is certain is that he has lost much of his (discernment) and should also be asking the right questions.

Don is unfortunately right ( "the sense of Don's father": Talk sense, or shut up! ), but there is one common point among all these people (I would personally exclude Buddha). They all managed to connect people around the same belief, which was gradually transformed into a certainty, the consequences of which have resulted in wars or (including) the recent attacks on the World Trade Center ... The pilots (terrorists) of these aircrafts were also convinced that these acts were their guaranteed entry into paradise ... as heroes!

If the path of Kasturi seems much more "clean" than Chari's, it should be understood that she also borrows parallel trajectories by offering the same types of placebo effects as answers to spiritual questions.

The testimony of Cyril is evidence ...

Martin

Monday April 06, 01:08:00 PM

Christian's Analysis of Chari's: "Keep the Master Happy" Speech

Taken from Christian's blog: Analyse de la SRCM (tm)

Christian, a research psychologist and psycho-linguist (phd), was an abhyasi for 18 years under Chari.

(See the last article on the blog: Number Xlll)



XIII) Supreme arrogance, et the non-arrogance of the Supreme. When the servant thinks he's God ... It is time to change the "servant" !



Apparently, we recognize a tree by its fruit. Let us therefore focus on the fruits of this (SRCM California-1997) tree, with a look at the contents of a manipulative speech given by Chari in March 2009 in Calcutta (India)

"Keep your Master happy under all circumstances. Don't pit your desire against his plans. The Master has no desires. He has only plans: plans for the Mission, plans for the abhyasis - all for the welfare of the abhyasis, nothing for himself"

Chari has no desire, as it can clearly be seen because this is not a power system, this is not a sectarian system, this is not a manipulative doctrine. He has plans for you, like all the globalist maniacs of the world, but these plans are not from his megalomaniac desires, they are the desires of God. Well ... Moreover, all this is for your good: Do you think that if it was not for your good, he would tell you anyway?

"All of us today are like that. We want our satisfaction, our opinion, our plan to be accepted. And there are some centres that have been eminently troublesome to Babuji in his lifetime, and subsequently."

Which centers? These are empty words, unverifiable. But if this were true, why would some centers have acted that way? There must have been reasons. But the real question is: Were they the same as those concerning Chari today? Surely not! The parallel is simply to enable him to acquire the aura of Babuji by replacing him in the eyes of the abhyasis. For he says in essence: If even to Babuji, some centers have opposed some resistance, you will understand that it is inevitable that it happens to me too. This substitution allows him to undermine the resistance in the eyes of the abhyasis and to justify the opposition to him as being inevitable. The abhyasis will get the idea that such opposition is not to the anti-spiritual politics of Chari, Chari and that he is a poor innocent victim. In reality, the resistance he encounters are perfectly explainable, and are only logic and justice.

"I caution all of you who wish to pit your intelligence and your will to do wrong against your Master's will."

Threats ...

"You may win battles here, but it will not take you one step further in spirituality."

And terrorism ! Does he really believe that he has placed a "trade-mark" on God? It seems like it. Be brave and do what is right, because it is spiritual. Obey the madman, and your soul will pay the price mechanically, not later in a future life, but here and now. What did Babuji say about gurus such as Chari ? Re-read.

"Because from a wounded heart, from a sorrowful heart of a Master,"

Sob...sob...! A little and usual touch of sentimental manipulation. One finds this tactic all the time, it therefore seems to have an impact, probably on the 2/3 female composition of the abhyasi population.

"what will you get except tears?"

And many other things, and many good and nice ones, good and spritual. Because these tears will not be ours.

"He will still struggle to do what is good for you, but your attitude of mistrust, of self-importance, of arrogance, and the pride that you can stop his work, will definitely doom you to several lives on earth."

As the master, so the disciple. Why does he complain of having arrogant and egotist abhyasis? Has he ever looked at himself? There are threats in the pattern of all religions: If you do not do what a bunch of maniacs in a position of power has decided to make you do against your will, they threaten the worst, namely hell or reincarnation for eons. This has the sole purpose of bringing you back to obedience. Heads UP! Abhyasis! Manipulation! This is not love but power.

"And remember what Babuji Maharaj said,"

The Supreme authority: If Babuji said it, you will not contest it. Notice as he skillfully and systematically plays this string. He always uses Babuji to make him say things he may never even have said. Each time, ask yourself if you can find a reference that would enable you to check the validity of the quotation. And if it is valid, consider whether it is well-timed (in context), and if his aim is not manipulation.

"Such a time as this may not come for thousands of years again."

Note that it is Babuji who said that, not Chari. That period probably ended with the death of Babuji. It was THE quote to not use here, pity!

"These spiritual doors are not open like elephant doors. They open, and by divine command they stay open for as long as Divinity wishes. And when Divinity says, "Bus! [Enough!]" nothing in the universe can open that door except divine will again."

By « divine will », understand « Chari's will ». So he is saying : Obey him or he (Chari) will close the doors and you will be caught.

"I would like you all to listen to this, if it is recorded, again and again."

Brainwashing.

"Clear your minds."

By putting this BS in it, I would be suprised.

"Tell yourself that your individual ego is not worth a grain of sand."

So is the ego of the individual cowpie, Chari too.

"Tell yourself that you may oppose, but you cannot stop."

False: He can do nothing without you. Without abhyasis, no mission, no empire. Why do you think he will make every effort to attract even more people under his control, and manipulate people in his control as he does in his speeches so that they remain trapped? You may object, and you can even stop the project. You have this power, and for this reason he is forced to manipulate you with such speeches. But there are better things to do than to to resist or fight: You can be restored. It is therefore essential to analyze and understand. If Chari has been a Guru, it is by showing us, to the extreme, what should not be done. This may serve for the future. But let's be realistic: A rotten fruit does become sound again.

"Tell yourself that however big, however important, however rich, however powerful, however intellectual you are, before Him you are as nothing. I pray for you all."

Fortunately he included himself in it, and fortunately he prays for us all :-)

This ultimate act of marketing is to show him as "nice", after all he has said. In fact, did this speech not elevate you above yourself? ... ;-))

Marriage Arranged by Chari Allegedly Ends in Tragedy!

Taken from a Testimonial comment left on "Sahaj Marg! The SRCM(California-1997) Membership Statistics...":

If anyone has more information, please make it known here for the sake of the victims (current and future) . Please chose a "user ID" so we may refer to you as a "name" ...

Why is Chari and SRCM (California-1997) arranging and performing marriages? And, whereas Babuji warned that Sahaj Marg was for adults of 18 yrs and older, the age when one could chose a spiritual path, Chari wants the children to be abhyasis from birth, or before a choice is possible. It's all about "growing the business". This is from one of Chari's speeches:

http://www.srcm.org/literature/recent.speeches/070202_Tiruppur.jsp

Lalaji Maharaj, whose birth anniversary we are celebrating today has ordained–it was not merely an expression of his wishes–has ordained that abhyasis should marry amongst each other, so that in two or three generations we have an exploding Sahaj Marg population.

Note: Lalaji died in 1931, 13 years before Sahaj Marg and the Shri Ram Chandra Mission were invented by Babuji and registered in India, (1945) .

Anonymous said:

I went to Chennai ashram,
for doing some voluntary work in June 2006.
Shri Chary(Guru) was also conducting marriages during that time.

Just one day before marriage, an abhyasi by name Dhamodhar(Damu) commited suicide, which I know him very well, his marriage was fixed by Shri Chary with another abhyasi.

Dhamodhar was working for only mission mostly in
Satkol and nothing else for several years by then.

I dont know what went wrong there.
On the day of the marriage, I could see Shri Chari was performing as usual.

I think Damu brother commited suicide as marriage was against his wishes.

There are other episodes as well, where arrogant guru speaking some negative things and all those coming true.

Can any one from SRCM deny this charges.

March 29, 2009 10:59:00 PDT AM (Bombay, India)

This was sent May 15, 2008:

Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "Michael's View on the Controversies... Published on Mar 9, 2007":

Anonymous said...

I would like to bring forth a tragic incident, about an ardous abhyasi, named Dhamodar. I think who sacrifised every thing for the Mission. But sadly he commited suicide by hanging himself.

The marriage was set by PR. What might have gone through old parents and all. We can see PR next day as usual and whistling and listening to music. No change, poor parents, they might have such expectations from the young child.

May 15, 2008 11:04:00 PDT PM

From Shri Ram Chandra Mission (SRCM-California-1997) Site (Recent Speeches):
Speech given by Rev. Master on 12th October 2008 at Hyderabad, India

http://www.srcm.org/literature/recent.speeches/081012_Hyderabad.jsp


(...) increasingly marriages are getting troublesome. People get married here by the grace of my Guru, my Master, and they run into trouble. Some of them, fortunately only a few, the marriage is finished on the day of the marriage itself. So far we have had three cases. But it is a tragedy for me because, as Babuji said, even one drop of poison in a big vessel of milk means a big vessel full of poison. Here we don’t judge spiritual progress by success, we judge it by failure. And in that sense our marriages have failed too often for my comfort. Though my boys tell me, “Only three, saab [sir].” Should not have been even one.

In which other group does the leader call his henchmen (foot soldiers) "my boys"? Organized Crime!!

From Orkut Freedom from SRCM - Sahaj Marg

(Shashwat's) Discussion Community

Satya Srikanth Said :

Hi Shashwat,

Damu was supposed to marry a girl selected by chari. Girl was also abhyasi. she was daugther of a kitchen volunteer. Everybody in srcm knows about this incident. I guess chari forced the boy to marry aganist his wishes and because of that only he committed suicide.

and later Satya Srikanth said ...

Hi Shashwat,

You are doing exceptional job aganist sadist guru. There are other instances as well. Ex-Center incharge of some southern state (****Name Zapped on request****), she was very close associate of Babuji, please dont mention her name any where. she made her son to marry abhyasi. Chari some how said that the marriage will break. As he said, couple got divorce with in a year of marriage. Later on he throwed out of srcm as with many other senior abhyasis.

The Purpose of LIFE! Develop more RELIGIONS! Chari

Comments to a speech by Chari at Raipur, India, Mar 18, 2009

Comments by 4d-Don in "red italics"

The Purpose of Life

Talk given by Master on 18th of March, 2009 at Raipur, India

(...)

So I pray for all of you. I pray for myself too, that having got this golden opportunity of life on earth as a human being, the great gift of being born in the time of Babuji Maharaj, Lalaji Maharaj as the case may have been, and the ultimate gift of having been accepted by them as abhyasis, we don't falter, we don't look here or there. (Both Baubji and Lalaji said to take what you can from the Master and if you need more, look elsewhere) You know every ghoda gaadi [horse-drawn carriage] in Uttar Pradesh, or Madhya Pradesh, they have these blinkers so that the horse cannot look this side or that side. Unfortunately God did not put blinkers on our eyes! He made us free - we can turn our heads, we can look here and there, look up, and look down. In giving us this freedom, we have destroyed our purpose in life. (not true ... To be FREE means that anyone can decide for one's self and leave a "bad guru" and find another Guru, or we can even realize the ONE by ourselves. The Pine tree does not have to become the FIR tree to be at ONE with the DIVINE.)

We have these five senses called panchendriyas. They are meant merely to guide us: go left, go right, avoid danger, go back. Touch - this is hot, reject. Taste - it's poison, throw it out. But we have converted our senses into pleasure seeking instruments, and therein lies the fall of mankind. (We have not "converted our senses", our senses are "gifts" to use wisely and not to curse as this guru wants you to do. Be grateful for your "senses". There is no "sense" in the "non-sense" of this GURU. Mankind is not "fallen"... and does not need a "Saviour" or Messiah. That is a "Christian" (religious) concept, a myth, and it is not "Raja Yoga) The fall of Adam and Eve was not pleasure. (That story is a religious MYTH ... there were no "Adam and Eve". We all experience pleasure and that is "GOOD". Please don't use the myths of religions that you call "corrupt" to make "spiritual" points of "become aware of REALITY") It was knowledge! (wrong... that myth is about "EGO" (I was a Christian) ... Some religious fanatics (not the mythic Adam and Eve... the story is more recent than that and the story was not written by them) started thinking (as they do now) that they could decide (with ego, power, not knowledge) for the tribe, what was right or wrong. The "powers", gained by "disobedience" to those claiming to represent God, or allegeldy of knowing better or more" than the ONE (ego) what was right or wrong, was, according to the mythic "talking snake" (Satan?) was to become "godly" or equal to GOD, (ego) and then have power over one another, and over their future families, friends, and enemies. Plus "the talking snake" promised that eating the fruit of the tree would "not lead to death", and/or they would be immortal (as God...ego). That is the ego that the mythic (storybook) Adam and Eve and hence mankind fell into ... (See "Adam and Eve" and other myths here or here)

In the same Christian Bible, Joshua stopped the sun so the battle (war) could go on... is that TRUE? Get REAL!! Does anyone know of any records of the "sun stopping". Is it not the earth's spin that gives us a 24 hour day? OOPS!!

If it was knowledge that Mankind desired historically, we would have evolved in KNOWLEDGE ... we seem to have evolved in EGO (seeking POWER), and we still shun true knowledge. Those who use their heads are still not paid as those who appeal to the ego or the emotional "heart" (entertainment, fantasy, fictions, movies, sports, nationalism, imperialism, religion, etc...)

Now we will have to face it. The TIME is at hand. The same kind of religious fanatics, and pseudo-Gurus still think they can "pray us into peace", "spin the world", "give the Universe", and "destroy part of the Cosmos" (Chari) ... but they can't... it is just EGO and megalomania. They think they can divide and conquer and then sell UNITY. They think they can insult other religions and "attack" with violence the "ashrams of others" and then sell PEACE (see the 9 o'clock prayer). They think they can make "megalomaniacal claims" and then sell HUMILITY. Well, we now have the INTERNET... THANK the ONE GOD!!

If one wants peace, then they should live in PEACE... If one wants UNITY, then they should not join a group that DIVIDES (as most groups do). If one wants "EGO-lessness" and a humble society, then they should live in humility and without EGO... not like the Masters of SAHAJ MARG paving our "natural paradise" to build another "parking lot" (as in the Canadian Joni Michelle song), where in their lack of knowledge, and full of "ego" and divided one against the other, they can go and find their "male" GOD (...or the gods of division, violence and war.) If you read carefully, you will know why they were evicted from the Garden of Eden. Because they ate of the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil. The moment we started distinguishing good and evil in God's creation, we have betrayed God in the sense that God created no evil - we have created evil. Therefore we are punished; therefore we are condemned until we can again come to a state, spiritual state, a state of existence where there is no more either good or bad. Sukhaduhkha same krutvaa - make both pleasure and pain the same. (Wow! Does this "Master"?? ever make things up! WE are SPIRIT, MIND, ENERGY and MATTER and many live with "both wings" (or all wings) as per the advice of most Masters.

The Garden of Eden is a Judeo-Christian religious myth, a fantasy and not a REAL place. There is no "tree of the knowledge of Good and Evil". Find such a tree and show it to us. If there is evil, it exists in the MIND of MAN. We (through the religious elite) have created Evil in our MIND. We are FREE... and we can, in our mind, call disease or the exploding volcano or the raging flood "EVIL", but that does not make it so. WE, Mankind, are not PUNISHED or "condemned" by the ONE or the Creator ... Things just happen, and then the religious profiteers make their "prophetic claims" in their self-serving bids to be "financed" or "supported" by the broader community. That Fear and Temptation mechanism is "corrupt" religion, and it seems to be what Sahaj Marg has become. That religious manipulation is what we must grow out of, so as to finally become adults and finally begin to UNITE in Peace, using our HEAD (brain), with its powers of REASON, and LOGIC to think ... not the emotional heart (another myth) , or the reality that is the heart as a Pump for Blood. (the slavish pump does not think, but is controlled by the "nerve centre", the brain.)

For you there is nothing good, nothing bad. (For all of us...but only relatively! ) There is only the straight path on which you go, following the footsteps of your guru who is going ahead of you, and reaching the goal not by your effort, but by merely following. (Another fantasy... One's re-action is from one's own actions, not from someone else's actions. Karma is not to be TOYED with by the arrogant pseudo-gurus and corrupt religious "priests", and their claims of "erasing samskaras" or "forgiving sins" or "liberating" and "saving" others) This should not be difficult. If you are asked to find out the way, to avoid the thorns, all that sort of nonsense, you are put to test. "Which is my way? There are so many ways. Raah dikhao prabhu, nainheen ko raah dikhao prabhu. [O Lord, show this blind man the way.]" A song I heard in Soordas long ago, when I was a schoolboy in Jabalpur. Ham na nainheen hain - we are not blind. Nor are we mleccha [outcast] - we have a (self appointed... divisive, violent) guru. Keval hamen aankhen isliye dee gayi hain [We have been given eyes solely for this purpose] - I see the guru, my ears are given to me to listen to the guru, and my feet are given to me to walk behind him. I pray for you all and for myself that, may this be our last life on earth, however long it may last. Because I find that as I grow [older] day by day, I wish I had not lived so long, and that I did not have to live longer. (Dream on... Eternal means that there is no Beginning and no END. We, as LIFE, will go ROUND and ROUND... no GOAL... NO END...no religious heaven, no Spirilual myth of one "Brighter World", but many more "brilliant" levels of existence to experience. We, our consciousness, is not only carbon or Matter, but we are also LIGHT and MIND, and SPIRIT... Some REALIZE all of them! The Whole REALITY. The Whole SHE-Bang! )

I told Babuji one day in Shahjahanpur, I think it was in 1968 or '69. He congratulated me and said, "Now you are liberated." (Another fantasy... Don't believe it... if you believe that, then so am I "LIBERATED" and so are we all ... Words are cheap! Read Babuji's last letters regarding Chari! ) I said, "Babuji, why don't you take me up immediately, simultaneously?" (That is smart!! NOT... Let all your disciples be ready to leave their "life" as in that "made up" story. Chari is alive. Babuji did not and could not take anyone with him. Don't become like that! That is a fantasy and not REALITY! ) He said, "Why do you ask for that?" I said, "The longer I live, the more I am subject to temptation, and the possibility of fall." (Becaue you gave in to the MATERIAL... we did not...) You see, life is a danger. (Wrong... life is a pleasure also, an exciting and a calm place, a place to do good also, a place to learn, grow, share, be grateful, etc... etc.. Give us a break... use your head for the Love of Babuji!! ) Every day you live longer, there is the renewed danger of a fall: some temptation here, some stupidity there, some lack of faith. Somebody has something at home; "Oh, how can your Master allow this to happen? Why is your Master so cruel?" (Would you teach the "children" to desire to "not live" because it is too "dangerous"? What a "cruel joke". You are preaching to "old men and old women". Let the children live in hope, charity, gratefulness... in other words, leave them alone with your "negative" myths and legends. Life will go on with or without you!! )

We do not know that the play of life and death is in Divine hands. (WE DO... DO YOU?) Yeh drama hai [This is a drama]. But we go and we have [conditional] faith; we say, "Only as long as things are good for us..." Child married-God is great. Son promoted-God is great. Bahurani aa gayi bade khaandaan se [A daughter-in-law has come from a wealthy family]-God is even greater. Baccha paida hua aur voh bhi baalak? Arre vaah! Kaise khuda hamare. Nahin? [A child has been born, and that too, a boy? Wonderful! What a great God we have. Isn't it?] And suddenly some bad news: that compound wall toot gaya makaan ka. Arre bhai, yeh kaise ho sakta hai? Kaise mumkin hai ki jub ham shishya kain unke, ham itni bhakti rakhte hain unke prati, shraddha rakhte hain. Yeh kaisa mumkin hai? Guru mein kucch na kucch truti hai. Chhod do, chalo aur anya sanstha mein chalte hain. [The compound wall of our house has broken. Oh, how could this have happened? How is it possible when I am his disciple, and I have so much faith and devotion for him? (In Sahaj Marg, one is the disciple of a man ( "his") not of the ONE (ITS). If in Sahaj Marg, the adepts think that nothing will happen to them that is relatively "bad" then they live in a "fool's paradise". They, and even their Master will die one day. ) There is some shortcoming in the guru. Leave him. Let us join a different system.] I have heard this a thousand times. (Good IDEA! Some people want to THINK for themselves ... and hence to leave a bad GURU... "Midstream, change horse!", is the new philosophy!) [It's] something bad in their opinion. (that is not bad in their opinion ... it is bad in the guru's opinion. What is bad, is continuing to have faith and devotion in a bad guru) You see, suppose you eat useless stuff at night, next morning you are going to have stomach trouble. "Nahin, nahin [No, no], if God is great, why should I have trouble? He only created it." "Arre, daaru peeke aaye… [But you drank alcohol…]" (You, the bad GURU, fed them POISON ... Division, violence, no love, no forgiveness. Their mind has been poisoned. They are not allowed to THINK with their HEAD!!) "But God only created all these beautiful things for our enjoyment." All right, try it. God can wait. (You can't speak for or make idle "veiled" threats to others for the ONE, what you call your "male" Gothic "GOD"... Soon no one will care!! and pity the "Phoney Guru".)

So don't test God or the guru. (Babuji and most true "GURUS", say to test the GURU... and not just "once" but all the TIME. I will question the ONE all the TIME ... It is not a "test" but a "relationship" between CREATOR and a participant in the CREATION) Don't evaluate your faith. (wrong!! How silly!! ) Don't pretend to know what their love is by what happens to you. (The GURU is just a MAN... a guide... When a guide leads one astray, one can leave that guide and find another or walk the Path by one's self) But always know (show it and all will know...you can't show it, because you ain't got it!! ) that their love for you, your faith in them, is for a particular purpose and that only - to reach them. (to realize the ONE is not to reach the materialist, egotist, imperialist, nationalist, and bad Guru ... but to get away from him.) And if that is going on step by step, you must never falter in your faith, never doubt their love, or be unsure of their grace. This is the only way of testing your relationship with your guru. Am I one step ahead? "No, no, I want to be one mile…" Well, that depends on you, you see. "If I could be stronger…" We do not prepare people here for the marathon, and the decathlon, and for Everest. (Babuji said that it is better to have no GURU than a Bad GURU. If you are in "mid-stream" of LIFE, and your horse (guru) falls, you are allowed to "change horse" and to not adhere to the old saying: Never change horse in mid-stream!)

Babuji determines what should be our pace: "Yeh chaal kaafi hai tumhaare liye. Ham aage aage chal rahe hain, tum peeche peeche chalo. [This pace is enough for you. I will go ahead, and you follow.] Just follow me. That you want to go faster, does it mean I must run?" Babuji asks. "Nahin, nahin, Babuji. Please aap apne rate pe chaliye." "To phir tum pareshaan kyon hote ho? Kyon mujhe bhagaate ho, ki tum bhi saath saath bhaage? Main bhaag sakta hoon kya, yeh aisi baat nahin hai. Main ek chhalaang maarunga to Himalaya ke us taraf bhi pahunch sakta hoon. Tum pahunch sakte ho saath saath? To mera chaal usi gati par hai jisme aaplog santushti ke saath, bina pareshaani, bina koi khatra, aap hamare saath chal sakte hain. ["No, no, Babuji. Please go at your pace." "Then why are you worried? Why are you trying to hasten me? It is not a question of whether I can run; with one leap I can cross the Himalayas. Can you follow along? So, my pace is such that you can follow along satisfied, without worry, without danger."] The guru's pace is adjusted to our ability to keep pace with him, not the other way around. (BE FREE... Chose your own PACE. Become adults and BE spiritual and kind, compassionate and loving and helpful to one another. Don't gauge your pace, you thoughts, your life, you thoughts, by "OTHERS" not even a "self appointed" GURU)

And inevitably, even when we are a big group, he has to look after the least capable. (in the case of Sahaj Marg, and "religions" they marginalize and beat up the least capable) Isn't it? Like you walk with the baccha [child]. Husband walks - "Chale chal chal!" "Bacche aap sambhaal rahe hain kya?" ["Walk quickly." "Are you taking care of the children?]" Yeh to hota hai hur parivaar mein. "Bacche bhi main le loon. Handbag bhi sambhaaloon, purse bhi main rakhoon, aur aap chalte jaayiye. Kaise mard hain aap?" yeh koi poochti nahin hai aurat. Mard ka farz hai ki voh soche ki meri biwi kahaan hai? Saath chal rahi hai ki nahin, saath chal sakti hai ki nahin, aur apni gati, apni chaal uske saath, uske anusaar adjust karte jaye. Nahin karte hamare mard log. "Chalegi voh!" Nahin, yeh mazaak ke taur se keh rahen hain kyonki kuch hansi bhi ho jaaye saath saath. Lekin hamara purpose bahut hi serious hai. Yeh purpose ham haath se nikaal dein, chhod dein, to hamari jaan kya, hamari zindagi kya, hamara bhavishya khatre mein hai. [This happens in every family. "I take care of the children. I hold the handbag and the purse, and you keep going forward. What kind of man are you?" - this no woman asks. (No women of the INDIAN culture maybe, but in most other cultures, the women can ask what they want, without asking permission. I gues that is why so many women like Sahaj Marg ... that FREEDOM is taken away from them! ) It is the man's duty to look out for his wife: Where is she? Is she coming along with me or not? Is she able to come with me or not? And accordingly, adjust his pace to hers. (In the case of "saintly" Sahaj Marg, and the SRCM, those who disagree, or question the MISSION are "kicked out") Our men don't do this. "She will come!" I am saying this in jest so that we have a few laughs alongside, but our purpose is a very serious one. If we lose sight of this purpose, not only our life but our future is in jeopardy.] (in jeapardy because of the danger caused by "arrogant" and corrupt religious leaders who take their followers to "violence" (attacks on ashrams and dividing families) , in their and other countries.)

Bus, itna hi hamein kehna tha. Aap log sune, iske liye ham bahut prasanna hein. Aashirvaad. [That is all I wished to say. I am happy that you all listened. My blessings.]

The 9 O'clock Prayer... Uniting all Humanity!

One thing very important concerning world peace, concerning harmony, concerning peaceful existence, harmonious existence, happy existence - Babuji Maharaj has emphasized that unless we do this 9 pm prayer, the hope of uniting all humanity will never happen. Thank you.

The violent praying for PEACE. Gee that's a NEW ONE ... I guess the reason we don't have peace is because no one has ever thought of PRAYING for PEACE. No Christian has ever prayed, no Muslim has ever prayed, no Hindu has ever prayed, no Buddhist has ever prayed...etc..etc.. for millenia ...

There is no hope of SPIRITUALITY uniting humanity as long as SPIRITUALITY becomes ritualistic as religion and thus MATERIALIST (concrete, steel, money, parking lots, airports, more travel, more gas, more pollution, etc)

A song for the Religious who pray for peace:

HEY YOU!!

Hey You! With a double face
Who pray for peace, then serve the gods of war
What's that you speak? Turn the other cheek?
You gotta think the world is deaf and blind!

CHORUS:

Get out of here, not in my space
Join the human race, and become civilized.
I was at ONE, my one in ONE
Then you came along, with your master song!

VERSE:

Hey You! Of the Master clan
With your Master Plan, and the words you bastardize,
You sow the war, then you reap the war.
You gotta think the world is deaf and blind!

CHORUS:

Get out of here, not in my space
Join the human race, and become civilized.
I was at ONE, my one in ONE
Then you came along, with your master song!

VERSE:

Hey You! Who theorize
Proselytize, and then you criticize
You victimize, then you terrorize.
You gotta think the world is deaf and blind!

CHORUS:

Get out of here, not in my space
Join the human race, and become civilized.
I was at ONE, my one in ONE
Then you came along, with your master song!

Keep Chari Happy! Give more Money!

Comments to a speech by Chari in Kolkata, India, Mar. 21, 2009

Comments by 4d-Don in "red italics"

From: "The Heart of the lion", by Chari : "The swing between the opposites is minimized until I don't know even the difference between pleasure and pain". Now he needs for the abhyasis to "keep the Master Happy". It seems that he has drifted from the Spiritual into the Material and now needs (desires) the abhyasis, rather than the other way around. The Master is "spiritually bankrupt" and needs to be "emotionally ("kept happy" is an emotional desire) bailed out". It seems that in these days of transformation, the "spiritual capitalists" who would sell salvation for the egoism that power and money bring, are grovelling, just like the material capitalists.



Keep the Master happy under all circumstances
A Talk by Master on 21st of March, 2009 at Kolkota, India

Dear Brothers and Sisters,

Today, according to the calendar, is the first day of spring (in some parts of the planet Earth, in the northern hemisphere) . It is a renewal of life after the cold, harsh winter, where everything is snowbound, trees lose their leaves, birds stop flying, and only predatory animals are there on the move: wolves, bears and such. (Wrong... Many animals which are not predators: rabbits, hares, mice, rats, etc. etc.. are out all winter (of course), why do SOME (some hibernate) predators come out if there is no "food"? ... The Master of the Natural Path, is not very well versed on "Nature". He is more knowledgeable in parking lots, real-estate developments, steel, concrete and plastics...and "capitalism")

So, to celebrate spring (in a sense, because we don't celebrate) (just the (3) birthdays bashes of the two (2) self-appointed Masters of their sect, and Lalaji, who had nothing to do with SRCM. The founder of SRCM just "used" Lalaji's name without his permission or the permission of his family or society, even though he had a legal lineage, successors, and societies. The so called "Method" of Sahaj Marg is different from the method taught by the other Lalaji groups.) I would like to tell you some things that Babuji Maharaj told me when he was very ill, towards the end of his life, and we were actually in Switzerland. (get the violins out... he is manipulating, using Babuji again) For three days the doctors said, "There is no hope." Addressing me they said, "There is no hope that you can take him back alive to India." But I never lost hope because I had seen Babuji Maharaj swing back from one extreme to another, almost in seconds. But on that occasion, he was so upset with himself. I said, "Babuji, why are you upset with yourself? There is nobody to match you in this world. (Chari using Babuji to "air" his ego... One can almost hear him say: "And I am the (self-appointed) successor of Babuji and hence: nobody can "match me"!) Your Master is very happy with you as you keep on saying. And why this sudden situation of despair, despondency?"(Babuji was in "despair", according to Chari?... Not very "Masterly"!! Is Chari in "despair", and is he projecting his despair on Babuji? ) - because he was quite determined to go. He said, "I want to go." I said, "We are going to India in a few days." He said, "No, I want to go There." I said, "But, Babuji, what will we do without you?" - taking a selfish standpoint, you know. He said, "People like you, maybe there are only a few, two or three, you will get on because you have me in your heart. (self praise...ego) But the rest of our abhyasi brotherhood don't consider me at all. They only come to me to take. Eternally they want to take. (That is the deal of the "master/disciple relationship. Babuji knew that. The Master opens an ashram and the disciples come and "take". Chari and other "pseudo-gurus" wants to change that to "the disciples give (money) and the Master takes" ) I am willing to give them the whole universe, (the "universe" is not anyone's to give, not even Babuji's ... Chari's ego talking) if they could but do the meditation properly, and in one sitting I can do it, (ego...not Babuji) but all that they bring me is their unhappiness, their sickness and their anger against me." (Anger against Babuji? This is made up, invented ... does not even sound true ... and/or is very weird. The "anger" Chari feels is against Chari, not against Babuji... he is projecting, not "channeling". Babuji use to say: We only see what we think ... that is why we should LOVE everyone.) He used these words - "They are angry with me because I don't solve their problems." He said, "I am telling you, Parthasarathi. I need Lalaji's permission for everything that I do. (Lalaji has nothing to do with Sahaj Marg, according to Kasturi's followers... Lalaji (if he could from the "other world") would give instructions to his own organization, and his legitimalely appointed successors) It is not a question of whether I can do it or not. If Lalaji permits, I can do anything, including spinning the world like a top. (Chari's ego ... projected on Babuji) But without his permission, I cannot even have a drink of water." (And Babuji, or any other "human" including "megalomaniacs", can't "spin the world like a top"... Pure fantasy.. invented. )

Please register these words carefully in your hearts, because his despair was not because Lalaji was angry with him, or he was not capable, but because abhyasis, barring a few, were only trying to put their egos in front of him, their demands for material welfare, for material growth, and so on and so forth. And when he could not do it because he was not permitted to do it by Lalaji Maharaj, they turned against him. (Who turned against him? Names??. Maybe Chari?? Another example of "division" in Sahaj Marg? These "meditators" don't seem to be very "loving", according to Chari, even to their own Masters !!) I said, "Babuji, but surely Lalaji understands all this." He said, "No, Parthasarathi. I feel miserable because I have come under the compulsion of abhyasis." (the POWERFUL Master who can "give the UNIVERSE" and "spinning the World like a top" in one sentence, in the other sentence feels "miserable" because he has come under the "compulsion" of the lowly "taking" abhyasis? Is Chari talking about himself here?) In Hindi, murabbat, as opposed to love - muhabbat. "Mein abhyasiyon ke murabbat mein phans gaya hoon - I have been caught up in their compulsions. (This is what Kasturi, the only saint in Sahaj Marg according to Babuji, the founder, said happened to Chari (see Kasturi's speech of 1995). ... I have said yes to every foolish request, every silly demand, so that I feel that today the Mission is in this condition because of me only. (because of Chari, if we believe the alleged letter from Babuji to Jahagirdar #13, 14- part 1... part 2 ) And if I go to the Brighter World, what face shall I show to my Guru?" (Is this Chari's "confession"? Who has "two faces"? Or more than "one face"?)

You see? It was a moment of extreme despair for him - how he would face his Master in the Brighter World. (this sounds like Chari's "nightmare"... see this site for another "perspective" - go to "Ramachandra of Ramachandra Mission) Because, instead of being disciplined, instead of refusing or denying so many requests that he should not have acceded to, of a non-spiritual nature, he said yes to everything. Then he said something very important. He said, "In this condition I can do so much. If only my abhyasis would keep me happy, then they will see what I really can do." (...in other words, buy the "whispers from the Brighter World" the Sequel, and keep Chari happy and see what he can do... ego ... this is the carrot... now watch for the STICK, the "threats" of eternal doom ... Spirituality or temptation and FEAR of RELIGION? Using "groupthink" or his new-found toy, "egregores"! )

See, this sentence is to be hammered into your hearts. (Sahaj Marg, the gentle, loving, harmonious and "Natural" path hammering away at your HEART !! No wonder so many young abhyasis are dying of "heart or stress related" diseases.) If you can't accept it, somebody should hammer it. (stress-ing the point) Keep your Master happy under all circumstances. Don't pit your desire against his plans. The Master has no desires. (wrong... his desires are expressed here: KEEP ME HAPPY! AGREE WITH MY PLANS) He has only plans: plans for the Mission, plans for the abhyasis - all for the welfare of the abhyasis, nothing for himself. (wrong... All for CHARI's EGO (legacy) ... there is no SPIRIT in CONCRETE or Cement!! ... Not for Ashrams built from the "materialist" centers of DUBAI)

I have spent so much time with my Babuji Maharaj. Sometimes he ate half a roti, and a small katori [cup] of daal. He was permanently ill. He was on a sort of a tightrope - morning, one, evening, another: constipation/diarrhoea, sickness/health, morose/smiling, cheerful. You have not seen him, most of you. He was on that delicate knife-edge, balanced between two opposites of life. And all that he wanted was our cooperation. (Which he (and others) apparently did not get from Chari) All that he wanted was for us to agree to what he said. He said, "Build the ashram here" - build it here. "Build it there" - build it there. But we are quarrelling now! "This ashram must not be here, it must be there. It must face this way, and not this way." (Chari's scam... get MONEY!!... Agree with Chari! Keep Chari "happy" ... Whatever happened to the warnings from Babuji and Dr. Varadachari about "commercializing" the Mission? Whatever happened to the nationalist/spiritualist "capitalists" who funded Chari's MISSION so far? Are they "BROKE"? And now SRCM (California-1997) needs "the POOR PEOPLE" to fund their Master's materialist and empirialist megalomania.

Maybe if the Master agrees to sell his soul (integrity) and to wear "blue jeans" again (as a "commercial") then the (advertising) money will come again ... Oh yes! The soul can only be sold "ONCE" ...

(Find photos (on the NET) of Chari on USA tour wearing "blue jeans" after donation from his "brother", the Indian "Blue Jean" baron)

I remember when we had the inauguration of the Shahjahanpur ashram. I had gone with him all round the previous day before the inauguration, and he was eminently happy with everything. It was the first ashram that he had built personally, and he was so joyful that he would gift it to Lalaji Maharaj as his guru dakshina (offering to the guru). (The ashram that was now taken over forcefully, with violence (see two Newspaper articles here) by "goons" from SRCM(California-1997). That issue has yet to come to court. ... and this is the same ashram that since "flooded" (Dec. 2008) . (see photos )

On the inauguration day after the satsangh, one young fellow came and said, "Babuji, it is not good to have thirteen windows." It so happened that there were four sides to that ashram. It is a sort of an octagonal structure; on four long sides there are windows, and there are thirteen windows on each side. Babuji Maharaj said, "I am sorry I did not consult you before I built it." Look at his humility! I told the young man, "Don't be stupid. (How arrogant...) Thirteen into four are fifty-two. (wrong math) That is the number of weeks in a year." And he went away very happy, you see. (How silly! Numerology and superstition? Is that how SRCM makes "decisions"... not with "divine" inspiration? )

All of us today are like that. We want our satisfaction, our opinion, our plan to be accepted. And there are some centres that have been eminently troublesome to Babuji in his lifetime, and subsequently. I caution all of you who wish to pit your intelligence and your will to do wrong against your Master's will. You may win battles here, but it will not take you one step further in spirituality. (threats?? ... using Babuji) Because from a wounded heart, from a sorrowful heart of a Master, what will you get except tears? He will still struggle to do what is good for you, but your attitude of mistrust, of self-importance, of arrogance, and the pride that you can stop his work, will definitely doom you to several lives on earth. (more threats... using Babuji) And remember what Babuji Maharaj said, "Such a time as this may not come for thousands of years again." These spiritual doors are not open like elephant doors. They open, and by divine command they stay open for as long as Divinity wishes. And when Divinity says, "Bus! [Enough!]" nothing in the universe can open that door except divine will again. (How silly... The Divine opens a DOOR?? GET REAL!! How "religious" Sahaj Marg has become. Is this "RAJA YOGA" also? Do you think you are speaking to "children"?... If they believe this and continue to give you money, then maybe you are! I think the game is OVER!! I pray for the sake of your followers and and the sake of their divided families and societies that they will finally see through your "silly" fantasies and become REAL and face REALITY again.)

I would like you all to listen to this, if it is recorded, again and again. Clear your minds. Tell yourself that your individual ego (Remember that... Chari, from Venus... ) is not worth a grain of sand. Tell yourself that you may oppose, but you cannot stop. (you are speaking to your "followers" aren't you? Or are you speaking AT your followers but really sending the MESSAGE to the BLOGGERS or the deserters from your DIVIDED Group? Why do you treat your followers as "enemies", and traitors, and deserters?) Tell yourself that however big, however important, however rich, however powerful, however intellectual you are, before Him you are as nothing. I pray for you all.

All this Temptation and FEAR, just like the "corrupt religions", so as to get the the followers to BUY the Sequel to "Whispers From the Brighter World", the all-new BIBLE of Sahaj Marg to be written by Messagees from the spirits of the dead, many "un-named", channeled by an anonymous French Lady Medium.

The Spiritual Capitalists want to be BAILED OUT again!!

The Disappointed of Chariji-ism!

Taken from Elodie's Blog in France: Pour Que Vive Le Sahaj Marg. In a comment by Alexis to an article entitled: Temoignage de Jean-Francois

Alexis has his own Blogs: SRCM=Danger, and Le Project Sahaj Marg (French & English)

The Disappointed of Chariji-ism...

In 2000-2005, no Western abhyasis knew Kasturi, Navneet Kumar Saxena (grand son of Babuji) and Dinesh Kumar Saxena (grand son of Lalaji), apart from a handful of people who were well informed (in the know) . In the best of cases, their names were not unknown, but it stops there. For Western abhyasis, SRCM and Sahaj Marg was Chari and his Mission.

Since then, things have changed. Kasturi, Navneet and Dinesh all have their own web sites, and we helped make them known to everyone.

But why are they suddenly out of the shadows?

The galaxy of Sahaj Marg is apparently some 500 000 sympathizers, with only 10% of these as regulars, and faithfull to an aging Chari, soon to be 82 years old, and his commercialized and drifting mission is now well established.

Those disappointed in Chariji-ism are legions. Chari himself is confessing his fear that his Mission will implode into a multitude of autonomous groups. And everyone is trying to recover his/her piece of the cake (birthday) . The land, the money, the adherents ...

For that nothing beats a good media exposure and they understand it:

* The descendants of Babuji have opposed the SRCM (California-1997) of Chari through the courts for a very long time. But Navneet Kumar Saxena has chosen since January 2007, to speak first on Tell me Truth India and then on its own website (Shri Ram Chandra Mission) . Why has he decided to take his fight to the media? What does he seek? And what does he gain? Justice should have sufficed ...

* Kasturi has hardened her tone towards Chari, first in 1995, and more so today. Her collaborators Akshat Gupta and Pandit Ji Somesh have created a blog (Kasturi Bhenji) in November 2006. Her "faithful" in America and Europe have emerge from the shadows since 2008 (Denise and Jean-François Mincet, in Canada, Cyrille Roux, in France, etc.).. Why now? After 25 years of silence ...

* There are also the efforts by the grandson of Lalaji, since late 2006. Less media-savvy, Dinesh Kumar Saxena stands out less clearly from Chari of whom he is a preceptor. This did not prevent him from reaffirming the Sufi origins of his lineage, and most recently (late 2008) to bring forth proof that Babuji had lost his way from Sufism, in his time.

* Let's not forget KC Narayana, son of Dr. Varadachari, who multiplies the number of his websites: the movement (Institute of Ramchandra Consciousness-ISRC), a research center, Imperience and a foundation, Sahaj Seva Samsthan, with its social achievements. A limited presence in numbers, but international and of quality.


And one can doubt the "entente cordiale" (Brotherhood?) at the top of the Chari Mission itself. Is everything going well between Ajay Kumar Bhatter the Chari-picked successor, PR Krishna the rich heir, Santosh Khanjee the "eminence grise" (Power behind the Throne) or even A.P. Durai and U.S. Bajpai, Chari's henchmen?

As long as Chari is there, no one says anything and everyone follows. But tomorrow?

Moreover, the rumor goes that that the "rag is already burning" (tension?) between Chari and his son Krishna ...

The explosion is expected! The vultures and the jackals are there, following the herd and recovering the laggards (strays?) . When the shepherd is gone, the hunt (kill, slaughter) will be on.

Friday March 20, 12:39:00 p.m. PM
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"Chari-ty" Creates a Gay Bashing Egregore!

GAY COMMUNITY RALLIES AGAINST PUB ATTACK
Father of two remains in grave condition after he was struck in the head after pool game.
From the Vancouver Sun, Mar 19, 2009



If there is "Gay Bashing" or violence against homosexuals in our world, the responsibility originates with religions, which benefit from "tax-exempt" status as "charities" in most countries.

These un-charitable homophobic messages from their egregore, voiced by their prophets, mediums or saints, and which are claimed in spoken and written words from the leadership to be "divinely inspired", then eventually filter down to the lower echelons of their dogmatic, religious PYRAMID. There, the mob or gang mentality kicks in. The "egregores", or "autonomous psychic entities" or "thought forms" are said by some sensitives to hang around, and/or be felt around emotional centers, such as pubs or other places of intoxication. The alcohol, the drugs, along with "lower-chakra (gut) stimulating" rhythmic SOUNDS, and reddish colored lights, instills a sociological personality change and an "ounce of courage" and gives some individuals the messianic feeling of actuating what everyone in the larger GROUP (society) wants, but are afraid to do, because of the legal repercussions. The "egregore actuator" even sometimes thinks that the GROUP (society) will praise and reward him/her. Some "religious" groups actually do reward this violent "GROUPTHINK" behaviour. Look at all the many saints who have in reality been "mass murderers" and "terrorists".

Then, in the right emotional environment, the GROUPTHINK process of the autonomous egregores take control of the messages of the GROUP, many of which originate with the group leaders, and the autonomous "group thought" that is erroneously claimed to be "divine", becomes "actualized" in the REAL WORLD. This process often happens without the immediate consciousness and/or awareness of the "actuator". This mob mentality can be seen in any group, mob, protests, gang, army, team, etc... and is now somewhat understood by sociologists. At one time in the not too distant past, thanks again to some religious fanatics, it was thought of as "posession" or "demonic" or "archangel" intervention.

I would like to hear the gay (and the broader) population's reaction to this statement that is transmitted via egregores (as many religions do) to the "abhyasis" (disciples), from the Master and President of the Shri Ram Chandra Mission (SRCM-California-1997) registered in North York, Ontario, headquartered in Chennai (Madras), India, and which operates as a charity in Canada and benefits from "tax-exempt" status ($60,000 on financial statement transfered to ?) . Is this "CHARITY"?? Do you want your "tax dollars" to fund the propagation of this and other such "pseudo-religious" un-charitable and violent messages?

Let your elected government representative and your "...revenue agency" know that you will not fund People VIOLENCE and the sources of its "origins" anymore!! Divine violence (volcanoes, hurricanes, supernovae, etc...) does not need our funding!


Balance-The Crux of Life
A talk given by Shri Parthasarathi Rajagopalachari (aka: Chari)
on 20th January, 2006 in Malaysia

So what wonders can it do if this is on a global scale? That is why Sahaj Marg is performing marriages—no questions asked, except whether you are old enough to get married, and whether you are a man and a woman. Unlike the churches in the world, we don’t perform same-sex marriages. That is unnatural. God did not intend it to be thus. Please excuse me, it is a personal comment, it is not Sahaj Marg. But there are things, as Babuji Maharaj said, “If God did not want two sexes, he could have as well created one and seen that the world propagated by itself.” There are unicellular organisms called amoeba which just split when they want. No problems of sex, no problems of love and hate, no problems of, shall we say, illegitimate babies, no need for Viagra. You know, when it is big enough it just splits and there are two. “Behold, there was one and now there are two,” says the Lord. So God could have done anything he wanted, you see. Why two sexes? Not so that one sex should marry among themselves, isn’t it? So, what the church may allow, I don’t have to condone or accept. To me, it is a very blatant misuse of so-called privileges of the human being, fundamental rights, et cetera. Of course, if you claim it is your fundamental right to go the dogs, so be it! Even God cannot stop it. That is not His weakness; that is His strength that he gives us the liberty to do what we will.

It like a boxing father, heavyweight champion, allowing his pugnacious teenagers to pummel away at him. He just laughs, “Yeah, go on, son. Come on, one more.” And the pugnacious son thinks he is going to knock his father out and suddenly, wham, you know. The son is at the corner of the room and the mother is wailing away: “How can you do it to my son?”


4d-Don said:

SHOW US! ... by yourself, how that deserves to be considered for "tax-exempt", and "Chari-table" status!


Other gay bashing incident in Vancouver, BC, Canada. from Pink News.co.uk


And while we are at it...

Christian Bible (King James Version) : Leviticus 20:13

Islam and Homosexuality