Saturday, March 17, 2012
What They Say About Chari and His Sahaj Marg(tm) !!
Taken and translated from an article by Alexis: Ce Qu'ils Disent de Chari, on his blog in Europe: La Fabuleuse Épopée du Sahaj Marg.
Comments and clarifications by 4d-don are in "red italics"
What They Say About Chari
"Let us not commercialize our Mission", by Dr. KC Varadachari, or: "I am away from the Chariji made by his followers", by Sister Kasturi, etc..
The criticisms are strong and are coming from all directions.
As early as 1970, Dr. KC Varadachari (friend of Babuji, preceptor and guru-in-waiting, now deceased) expresses his concerns to Babuji about the commercialization (drift) taken by the SRCM. His son, KC Narayana, (ex-preceptor and board member of SRCM) left the Mission in 1991, accusing Chari of (falsely) proclaiming himself as the spiritual representative of Babuji. In 1995, Kasturi ( the only "Saint" in Sahaj Marg, according to Babuji ... more of interview: here) makes the same complaint, adding that abhyasis are responsible for this cult of personality.
Michael, former American preceptor, (member of editing and publishing team) completes these criticisms with an analysis of the consequences it has produced: an atmosphere of individual competition for the favors of the master Chari, in which all means are good. Jean-Francois (ex-preceptor (with his wife) of Chari, and now with Kasturi, writing) added that Babuji demanded love and trust, while Chari demands blind obedience and service to the Mission. Clark Powell, (ex-preceptor of Chari and writer for SRCM: (Sahaj Marg Companion) like Michael, is frustrated by the power of the inner circle of Chari who took over the reins of the organization.
After 20 years of practice, Madeleine (ex-preceptor with Chari) dismantles the legend of Sahaj Marg which states that the (so-called) transmission exists only within the SRCM, providing evidence that it has existed since time immemorial and now exists in many other spiritual movements.
In 2005, reviving the fears of Doctor Varadachari 35 years earlier, Frank (ex-preceptor, Zonal-in-charge for Chari), Netherlands), Elodie (Switzerland) and Christian (France) are offended by the mad financial quest undertaken by Chari to the detriment of the spiritual quest: sale at auction during satsang, a book sold for 300 € ($250.00 USD) announced as the Bible of Sahaj Marg ...
Links:
- Chari, or the Industrialization of Spirituality in the West
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Comments and clarifications by 4d-don are in "red italics"
What They Say About Chari
"Let us not commercialize our Mission", by Dr. KC Varadachari, or: "I am away from the Chariji made by his followers", by Sister Kasturi, etc..
The criticisms are strong and are coming from all directions.
As early as 1970, Dr. KC Varadachari (friend of Babuji, preceptor and guru-in-waiting, now deceased) expresses his concerns to Babuji about the commercialization (drift) taken by the SRCM. His son, KC Narayana, (ex-preceptor and board member of SRCM) left the Mission in 1991, accusing Chari of (falsely) proclaiming himself as the spiritual representative of Babuji. In 1995, Kasturi ( the only "Saint" in Sahaj Marg, according to Babuji ... more of interview: here) makes the same complaint, adding that abhyasis are responsible for this cult of personality.
Michael, former American preceptor, (member of editing and publishing team) completes these criticisms with an analysis of the consequences it has produced: an atmosphere of individual competition for the favors of the master Chari, in which all means are good. Jean-Francois (ex-preceptor (with his wife) of Chari, and now with Kasturi, writing) added that Babuji demanded love and trust, while Chari demands blind obedience and service to the Mission. Clark Powell, (ex-preceptor of Chari and writer for SRCM: (Sahaj Marg Companion) like Michael, is frustrated by the power of the inner circle of Chari who took over the reins of the organization.
After 20 years of practice, Madeleine (ex-preceptor with Chari) dismantles the legend of Sahaj Marg which states that the (so-called) transmission exists only within the SRCM, providing evidence that it has existed since time immemorial and now exists in many other spiritual movements.
In 2005, reviving the fears of Doctor Varadachari 35 years earlier, Frank (ex-preceptor, Zonal-in-charge for Chari), Netherlands), Elodie (Switzerland) and Christian (France) are offended by the mad financial quest undertaken by Chari to the detriment of the spiritual quest: sale at auction during satsang, a book sold for 300 € ($250.00 USD) announced as the Bible of Sahaj Marg ...
Links:
- Chari, or the Industrialization of Spirituality in the West
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Monday, March 12, 2012
Sahaj Marg(tm), Religion and Spiritualism Divides; Spirituality Unites (maybe)?
Taken and translated from an article by Elodie: "La Religion Divise, La Spiritualité Unit"?, on her blog in Europe: Pour Que Vive Le Sahaj Marg.
Comment by 4d-Don: Much as Chari insinuates that religions are hypocritical, we can now say the same about his version of sprituality, or should we call that "spiritualism"?? (with an Anonymous French Lady Medium, egregores, Messages or "Whispers" from the spirits of the dead, etc...) ... We could add that "some" spiritualists are also "deceitful" to the point of dishonesty (see the REAL History of Sahaj Marg).
This is what they (Chari, et al) call and register as: Sahaj Marg(tm) or the "Natural Path Meditation"; not the original society registered in Shahjahanpur, India in 1945, by Babuji, but a "trade-marked" (for trade and commerce?) Sahaj Marg(tm), a product, or a "copy" registered with the same name in San Luis Obispo, California, USA, in 1997.
Sahaj Marg teaches this "division" to the children in their curriculum: see Lesson X of their Value Based Spiritual Education (VBSE) ... or See the complete VBSE here.
March 12, 2012
"Religion divides, spirituality unites"?
Here are some excerpts from a speech of Chari entitled "Attach Yourself to the Heart", February 11, 2012 before the abhyasis gathered for an "International Scholarship Training Program":
“(…) In my mind, it is religion that divides people more than any other single force.
(…) All religions claim that God is in their religion.
(…) Then why do we fight about my god and your god?
(…) How can there be religious wars? Because people never thought, you see. They were drunk with their religious fervour, [with] whatever their religious chief or their king said.
(…) Religions have only dogmas, have popes, have priests, have whatever else you call them; they dictate to us.
(…) That is why in Sahaj Marg we have no priest, we have no temple, we have no worship. Only my heart. (…) So spirituality says, meditate.
(…) This is all that Sahaj Marg is, this is all that Sahaj Marg requires, and this is all that is possible to take you to Him who is inside you.
(…) And for that I thank my master. I thank my master who is in my heart, who is my God.”
All religions have the same God, yet there are religious wars. It is religion that opposes most men among themselves, says Chari; because religions have a pope, priests, temples, cults and dogmas. None of this exists in spirituality: Sahaj Marg, it is just meditation, Chari says in all seriousness.
Chari has a God, it is Babuji. Sahaj Marg has a pope, it is Chari. It has its priests, they are the preceptors (and prefects?). (And Sahaj Marg has "spiritual soldiers"... see here) SRCM has temples, these are the ashrams. Sahaj Marg has (or "is") a cult, it is the sadhana and its daily abhyas (practice) (prayer, meditation and cleaning, obedience, service, etc..). It has a dogma, obedience to the Master and service to the Mission.
The best evidence that Sahaj Marg has turned itself into a religious dogma, it is precisely this training undertaken by the abhyasis (International Scholarship Training Program). If it was just about meditation, they would have no need of such training.
The God of Chari, it is Babuji, and it is he who says it (see above for his own words). I can not believe that other religions share the same God with him. Besides, it is also Chari who opposes religions and spirituality, and turns his followers against religions.
Is he then trying to create a new war between religions?
Elodie...
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Comment by 4d-Don: Much as Chari insinuates that religions are hypocritical, we can now say the same about his version of sprituality, or should we call that "spiritualism"?? (with an Anonymous French Lady Medium, egregores, Messages or "Whispers" from the spirits of the dead, etc...) ... We could add that "some" spiritualists are also "deceitful" to the point of dishonesty (see the REAL History of Sahaj Marg).
This is what they (Chari, et al) call and register as: Sahaj Marg(tm) or the "Natural Path Meditation"; not the original society registered in Shahjahanpur, India in 1945, by Babuji, but a "trade-marked" (for trade and commerce?) Sahaj Marg(tm), a product, or a "copy" registered with the same name in San Luis Obispo, California, USA, in 1997.
Sahaj Marg teaches this "division" to the children in their curriculum: see Lesson X of their Value Based Spiritual Education (VBSE) ... or See the complete VBSE here.
March 12, 2012
"Religion divides, spirituality unites"?
Here are some excerpts from a speech of Chari entitled "Attach Yourself to the Heart", February 11, 2012 before the abhyasis gathered for an "International Scholarship Training Program":
“(…) In my mind, it is religion that divides people more than any other single force.
(…) All religions claim that God is in their religion.
(…) Then why do we fight about my god and your god?
(…) How can there be religious wars? Because people never thought, you see. They were drunk with their religious fervour, [with] whatever their religious chief or their king said.
(…) Religions have only dogmas, have popes, have priests, have whatever else you call them; they dictate to us.
(…) That is why in Sahaj Marg we have no priest, we have no temple, we have no worship. Only my heart. (…) So spirituality says, meditate.
(…) This is all that Sahaj Marg is, this is all that Sahaj Marg requires, and this is all that is possible to take you to Him who is inside you.
(…) And for that I thank my master. I thank my master who is in my heart, who is my God.”
All religions have the same God, yet there are religious wars. It is religion that opposes most men among themselves, says Chari; because religions have a pope, priests, temples, cults and dogmas. None of this exists in spirituality: Sahaj Marg, it is just meditation, Chari says in all seriousness.
Chari has a God, it is Babuji. Sahaj Marg has a pope, it is Chari. It has its priests, they are the preceptors (and prefects?). (And Sahaj Marg has "spiritual soldiers"... see here) SRCM has temples, these are the ashrams. Sahaj Marg has (or "is") a cult, it is the sadhana and its daily abhyas (practice) (prayer, meditation and cleaning, obedience, service, etc..). It has a dogma, obedience to the Master and service to the Mission.
The best evidence that Sahaj Marg has turned itself into a religious dogma, it is precisely this training undertaken by the abhyasis (International Scholarship Training Program). If it was just about meditation, they would have no need of such training.
The God of Chari, it is Babuji, and it is he who says it (see above for his own words). I can not believe that other religions share the same God with him. Besides, it is also Chari who opposes religions and spirituality, and turns his followers against religions.
Is he then trying to create a new war between religions?
Elodie...
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Monday, March 05, 2012
Sahaj Marg(tm) and Whispers From the Brighter World No. 4!!
Taken and translated from an article by Alexis: "Whispers 4", on Elodie's blog in Europe: Pour Que Vive Le Sahaj Marg.
March 5, 2012
Whispers 4
Chari & the SHPT (spiritual hierarchy publication trust) are preparing to release the fourth volume of Whispers, scheduled for April 30, the anniversary of the birth of Babuji.
80 euros or $100.00 USD or 3,000 INR. Remember the price of the first volume: 300 euros! What deflation ...
What a tumbling too! They told us that it cost them dear (to manufacture), but in fact they put at least 220 euros aside for each copy sold ... and probably even more since there is no reason to believe they are selling the 4th (Whispers) at a loss or no profit.
We suspected it a little, here's proof!
Still, the SHPT (spiritual hierarchy publication trust), the publishing arm of SRCM, puts an end to their lifetime subscriptions effective March 31, 2012. One way to get people to subscribe in the last few months they have left??
And still not a single word on the death of Kasturi, the Saint from the great Babuji's Sahaj Marg.
Alexis
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March 5, 2012
Whispers 4
Chari & the SHPT (spiritual hierarchy publication trust) are preparing to release the fourth volume of Whispers, scheduled for April 30, the anniversary of the birth of Babuji.
80 euros or $100.00 USD or 3,000 INR. Remember the price of the first volume: 300 euros! What deflation ...
What a tumbling too! They told us that it cost them dear (to manufacture), but in fact they put at least 220 euros aside for each copy sold ... and probably even more since there is no reason to believe they are selling the 4th (Whispers) at a loss or no profit.
We suspected it a little, here's proof!
Still, the SHPT (spiritual hierarchy publication trust), the publishing arm of SRCM, puts an end to their lifetime subscriptions effective March 31, 2012. One way to get people to subscribe in the last few months they have left??
And still not a single word on the death of Kasturi, the Saint from the great Babuji's Sahaj Marg.
Alexis
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Wednesday, February 29, 2012
Chari & Sahaj Marg(tm), The Western Industrialization of Spirituality
Taken and translated from an article: Chari ou Industrialization Spirituelle à l'Occidentale, on Alexis' Blog in Europe: La Fabuleuse Épopéé Du Sahaj Marg.
Chari & Sahaj Marg(tm), or the Industrialization of Spirituality, Western Style!
Eldest in a family of three boys, Parthasarathi Rajagopalachari, called Chari was born on 24/07/1927 in the suburbs of Chennai. His mother died when he was 5 or 6 years. Graduated with a bachelor of science degree, he joined the industrial conglomerate TTK (Group) & Co in 1955, where he quickly takes the direction of its subsidiary, Indian Textile Paper Tube Co. Ltd., until his retirement in 1985. He is married in 1955 to Sulochana, with whom he has an only son, PR Krishna, who was born two years later. He (PR Krishna) has two children: Barghav born in March, 88 and Madhuri, in 91. Sulochana died on 02/11/1999.
The Tamil-speaking Brahmin, eating rice and smoking Dunhill cigarettes, knows Western culture well and masters it perfectly. Clever businessman, he knows how to lead men and manage their affairs.
Chari met Babuji in 1964. He became his secretary in 1970, he received from him a declaration of nomination as President of SRCM in 197474. Both travel the western world to present Sahaj Marg, until 82.
But Chari is rejected by most senior preceptors who deem him too westernized. At the death of Babuji, they prefer Umesh, the son of Babuji (who presents a more recent letter of nomination signed by Babuji) . From then on, Chari now presides over an unofficial SRCM, but manages to get control of the trademark of Sahaj Marg(tm).
Chari re-groups back to the southern ashram of Chennai, where he does not hesitate to blackmail the preceptors in a letter, giving them the choice between expulsion or allegiance. He also takes over some ashrams by force, such as those of Visakhapatnam, Nellore and Vadodara between 1984 and 1985. More importantly, he travels every continent in search of the legitimacy which he lacks, making the West his bridgehead.
To better mesh with Western expectations, he does not hesitate to change the spiritual practice, and to revisit its history. Once codified and ritualized, the legend instilled, and the spirituality well standardized, the product, the brand Sahaj Marg (tm) is filed on Jul. 29, 1997. To top it all, the registration of the SRCM ( California -1997) society are filed in the wake.
KC Narayana (son of Dr. Varadachari, friend of Babuji and Master-in-waiting) leaves in 1991, Kasturi distanced herself in 1995. One and all accused him of yielding to the cult of personality.
The strategy of the seduction of Westerners used by Rajagopalachari and his management methods have been proven effective, if we are to believe the figures put forward. Babuji had about 3,000 followers and 180 preceptors in 1983. Rajagopalachari carried that number to 20,000 in 1991, 50 to 55 000 in 1995-97, and 75,000 in 2000 with approximately 1,500 preceptors. (Lalaji, Master of the Naqshbandiya Sufi Botherhood, in the 1920's - 1931, had 212 disciples)
With his success and the money coming from his Western troops, Rajagopalachari returned to India in 1999 to celebrate the centenary of the birth of Babuji. On April 30th, he opened the Babuji Memorial Ashram, at Manappakam on the outskirts of Chennai, an ashram of five hectares which can accommodate 13,000 people inside the meditation hall.
If one believes the principal parties involved, the return of Parthasarathi Rajagopalachari to India is a smashing success and is crowned by a resounding victory over his rival organization, the Shri Ram Chandra Mission of Shahjahanpur (1945). In 2003, he announced that the number of his disciples was multiplied by three in three years. From 75 000 in 2000, it would then be increased to 200 - 300,000 from 2003-04.
In 2005, he reached the height of his power, Rajagopalachari appoints a successor. He makes recognized the SRCM(tm) at the Department of Public Information United Nations, (UNDPI) and launched the "New Bible" of Sahaj Marg(tm), a book that compiles the words of Babuji from beyond the grave, as reported by a medium, and creates a school and some retreat centers ...
Links:
- Sahaj Marg & The Successors of Chari
See also:
Sister Kasturi Speaks
Translation and Transcript of Sister Kasturi Interview (Feb. 20, 2009)
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Chari & Sahaj Marg(tm), or the Industrialization of Spirituality, Western Style!
Eldest in a family of three boys, Parthasarathi Rajagopalachari, called Chari was born on 24/07/1927 in the suburbs of Chennai. His mother died when he was 5 or 6 years. Graduated with a bachelor of science degree, he joined the industrial conglomerate TTK (Group) & Co in 1955, where he quickly takes the direction of its subsidiary, Indian Textile Paper Tube Co. Ltd., until his retirement in 1985. He is married in 1955 to Sulochana, with whom he has an only son, PR Krishna, who was born two years later. He (PR Krishna) has two children: Barghav born in March, 88 and Madhuri, in 91. Sulochana died on 02/11/1999.
The Tamil-speaking Brahmin, eating rice and smoking Dunhill cigarettes, knows Western culture well and masters it perfectly. Clever businessman, he knows how to lead men and manage their affairs.
Chari met Babuji in 1964. He became his secretary in 1970, he received from him a declaration of nomination as President of SRCM in 197474. Both travel the western world to present Sahaj Marg, until 82.
But Chari is rejected by most senior preceptors who deem him too westernized. At the death of Babuji, they prefer Umesh, the son of Babuji (who presents a more recent letter of nomination signed by Babuji) . From then on, Chari now presides over an unofficial SRCM, but manages to get control of the trademark of Sahaj Marg(tm).
Chari re-groups back to the southern ashram of Chennai, where he does not hesitate to blackmail the preceptors in a letter, giving them the choice between expulsion or allegiance. He also takes over some ashrams by force, such as those of Visakhapatnam, Nellore and Vadodara between 1984 and 1985. More importantly, he travels every continent in search of the legitimacy which he lacks, making the West his bridgehead.
To better mesh with Western expectations, he does not hesitate to change the spiritual practice, and to revisit its history. Once codified and ritualized, the legend instilled, and the spirituality well standardized, the product, the brand Sahaj Marg (tm) is filed on Jul. 29, 1997. To top it all, the registration of the SRCM ( California -1997) society are filed in the wake.
KC Narayana (son of Dr. Varadachari, friend of Babuji and Master-in-waiting) leaves in 1991, Kasturi distanced herself in 1995. One and all accused him of yielding to the cult of personality.
The strategy of the seduction of Westerners used by Rajagopalachari and his management methods have been proven effective, if we are to believe the figures put forward. Babuji had about 3,000 followers and 180 preceptors in 1983. Rajagopalachari carried that number to 20,000 in 1991, 50 to 55 000 in 1995-97, and 75,000 in 2000 with approximately 1,500 preceptors. (Lalaji, Master of the Naqshbandiya Sufi Botherhood, in the 1920's - 1931, had 212 disciples)
With his success and the money coming from his Western troops, Rajagopalachari returned to India in 1999 to celebrate the centenary of the birth of Babuji. On April 30th, he opened the Babuji Memorial Ashram, at Manappakam on the outskirts of Chennai, an ashram of five hectares which can accommodate 13,000 people inside the meditation hall.
If one believes the principal parties involved, the return of Parthasarathi Rajagopalachari to India is a smashing success and is crowned by a resounding victory over his rival organization, the Shri Ram Chandra Mission of Shahjahanpur (1945). In 2003, he announced that the number of his disciples was multiplied by three in three years. From 75 000 in 2000, it would then be increased to 200 - 300,000 from 2003-04.
In 2005, he reached the height of his power, Rajagopalachari appoints a successor. He makes recognized the SRCM(tm) at the Department of Public Information United Nations, (UNDPI) and launched the "New Bible" of Sahaj Marg(tm), a book that compiles the words of Babuji from beyond the grave, as reported by a medium, and creates a school and some retreat centers ...
Links:
- Sahaj Marg & The Successors of Chari
See also:
Sister Kasturi Speaks
Translation and Transcript of Sister Kasturi Interview (Feb. 20, 2009)
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Friday, February 24, 2012
Sahaj Marg is in Mourning!
Taken and translated from an article, Le Sahaj Marg est en deuil, on her blog in Europe: Pour Que Vive Le Sahaj Marg.
February 24, 2012
Sahaj Marg is in Mourning!
Sahaj Marg has just lost its second and greatest figure after Babuji. This personality is gone, and it is Sahaj Marg which goes out and dies.
Do not worry, it's not that about Chari that this concerns. There will always be a pale imitation of the real Sahaj Marg, a vulgar substitute registered in the commercial register.
This is about Kasturi Chaturvedi, Kasturi Bhenji, that saint of Sahaj Marg who passed away on February 22, 2012, and the remains of Sahaj Marg have disappeared with her.
Pray for her joining Babuji in a Brighter World, for whom she had devoted her life.
Elodie
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February 24, 2012
Sahaj Marg is in Mourning!
Sahaj Marg has just lost its second and greatest figure after Babuji. This personality is gone, and it is Sahaj Marg which goes out and dies.
Do not worry, it's not that about Chari that this concerns. There will always be a pale imitation of the real Sahaj Marg, a vulgar substitute registered in the commercial register.
This is about Kasturi Chaturvedi, Kasturi Bhenji, that saint of Sahaj Marg who passed away on February 22, 2012, and the remains of Sahaj Marg have disappeared with her.
Pray for her joining Babuji in a Brighter World, for whom she had devoted her life.
Elodie
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Monday, February 20, 2012
Sahaj Marg(tm) and the Successors of Chari
Taken and translated from an article: Les Successeurs de Chari, by Alexis on his blog in Europe, "La Fabuleuse Épopée du Sahaj Marg,
The successors of Chari
On April 29, 2005, Rajagopalachari wrote a first letter of appointment of his successor, Ajay Kumar Bhatter, a young businessman from West Bengal and member of the Executive Committee of the president since 2003, chosen by Babuji and confirmed by the hierarchy of Sahaj Marg, the signing ratified by sixteen personalities. And he (Chari) publicly announced this appointment the next day, on the occasion of the sixtieth anniversary of the Mission and the day of the 106th anniversary of the birth of Babuji, in a speech entitled "Securing the Future of the Mission", then he (Chari) was 78 years old. AK Bhatter was chosen by Babuji, he was trained for this for years and will be even throughout the life of Rajagopalachari (Chari). He (AK Bhatter) then succeeded him (as President-in-waiting, until Chari passes on) as the spiritual representative of Babuji and president of the Mission throughout the world. But AK Bhatter throws in the towel five years later, worn out by the co-management with Chari, and maneuvers and manipulations of all kinds. Chari announced his (AK Bhatter) resignation May 2, 2010.
Six years after naming his first official successor, Rajagopalachari therefore appointed a second successor July 26, 2011. He designates Desaibhai Kamlesh Patel, a pharmacist from Brooklyn of Indian origin, in a document co-authored by US Bajpai, Sanjay Bhatia and AK Bhatter. The official announcement only takes place two months later, October 3, 2011. But as the first appointment, it was (allegedly) approved by Babuji from the beyond, in a message peddled by the (anonymous French lady) medium, and meant for Chari.
Born in Gujarat (a state in western India, bordering Pakistan), Kamlesh emigrated to America where he lives for more than 20 years to become a pharmacist in Brooklyn (he would be in his fifties). Following his appointment by Chari, he moved to Garden of Hearts (Chennai), facing the Babuji Memorial Ashram. This is a "head of the show", abhyasi of the first hour, preceptor for nearly as long, who has gone through all the positions of responsibility (area-in-charge, region-in-charge, etc..), to the positions of Director of the American foundation, Sahaj Marg Spirituality Foundation-SMSF, and the great mediator of the new World Service Team of SRCM (California-1997).
This person of Indian origin lives on Staten Island, in upstate New York, USA. An Indo-American to head the SRCM (California-1997) is new. If he truly succeeds Chari - in contrast to Ajay - will he chose the United States or will he settle permanently in India?
Legitimacy is acquired, it can not be decreed
These two appointments targeted a double objective: to stop the succession disputes and to reassure abhyasis about their future. But let us not kid ourselves, these official announcements have never managed to completely turn off the hostilities between the various claimants to the succession, they just put them on hold, if not stifle them. Already, the abhyasis do not all succumb to the charisma of the designated successors. This is not without grimacing and gnashing of teeth. But one must accept the will of the guru, and then make do with it ...
Chari only appointed his successors to better calm the multiple contenders to his succession, but they are only puppets. Their legitimacy will turn off by itself after the death of Rajagopalachari. Legitimacy is acquired, it can not be decreed. The stakes are considerably higher than at the death of Babuji.
In the succession race, his son PR Krishna, the wealthy heir and great financier of the Shri Ram Chandra Mission, which manages the land and the property of the Mission, as his grand-son Barghav and his granddaughter Madhuri are well placed. Santosh Khanjee, the "grey eminence" who knows all the secrets and takes an iron fist throughout the organization and the foundation, has his chances. But his henchmen often at the forefront of the force used in the ashrams (take-over) and all dirty tricks, like Uma Shankar Bajpai and Arokiasamy P Durai (retired police), are agitated also.
Not to mention the medium of Babuji (Catherine Lauret?), who predicted that Ajay Kumar Bhatter would not succeed Chari, just six months before his resignation. For a stage entrance, it was perfectly orchestrated, a total success. But beware, her prestige could be short lived. She is a woman and Chari has always said that a woman could not become guru.
As for outsiders, the grandchildren of Lalaji and Babuji, Navneet and Dinesh, see this as an opportunity that had escaped them, to take over the reins. But the recent media exposure of the son of Dr. Varadachari, KC Narayana, suggests that he intends pull his piece from the game. And although Kasturi still remains out of the power games, it may not be the same for her supporters. And what about Srinivasa Rao, the head of the Shri Ram Chandraji Maharaj Seva Trust of Cuddapah?
And in 2011, another grand-son of Babuji, Sharad Chandra, creates the Society for Babuji's Mission, because he considers that the SRCM(California - 1997) has become too imortant and has overshadowed the spiritual aspects of Sahaj Marg ...
Moreover Rajagopalachari himself was concerned and revealed this in January 2009. He stated that a cancer was eating away at the inside of Sahaj Marg and that his organization was threatened with disintegration. He has nightmares where he sees the Shri Ram Chandra Mission disintegrate into "... 240 small missions".
See also (soon):
Links:
- Chari and Sahaj Marg(tm), or the Western Industrialization of Spirituality
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The successors of Chari
On April 29, 2005, Rajagopalachari wrote a first letter of appointment of his successor, Ajay Kumar Bhatter, a young businessman from West Bengal and member of the Executive Committee of the president since 2003, chosen by Babuji and confirmed by the hierarchy of Sahaj Marg, the signing ratified by sixteen personalities. And he (Chari) publicly announced this appointment the next day, on the occasion of the sixtieth anniversary of the Mission and the day of the 106th anniversary of the birth of Babuji, in a speech entitled "Securing the Future of the Mission", then he (Chari) was 78 years old. AK Bhatter was chosen by Babuji, he was trained for this for years and will be even throughout the life of Rajagopalachari (Chari). He (AK Bhatter) then succeeded him (as President-in-waiting, until Chari passes on) as the spiritual representative of Babuji and president of the Mission throughout the world. But AK Bhatter throws in the towel five years later, worn out by the co-management with Chari, and maneuvers and manipulations of all kinds. Chari announced his (AK Bhatter) resignation May 2, 2010.
Six years after naming his first official successor, Rajagopalachari therefore appointed a second successor July 26, 2011. He designates Desaibhai Kamlesh Patel, a pharmacist from Brooklyn of Indian origin, in a document co-authored by US Bajpai, Sanjay Bhatia and AK Bhatter. The official announcement only takes place two months later, October 3, 2011. But as the first appointment, it was (allegedly) approved by Babuji from the beyond, in a message peddled by the (anonymous French lady) medium, and meant for Chari.
Born in Gujarat (a state in western India, bordering Pakistan), Kamlesh emigrated to America where he lives for more than 20 years to become a pharmacist in Brooklyn (he would be in his fifties). Following his appointment by Chari, he moved to Garden of Hearts (Chennai), facing the Babuji Memorial Ashram. This is a "head of the show", abhyasi of the first hour, preceptor for nearly as long, who has gone through all the positions of responsibility (area-in-charge, region-in-charge, etc..), to the positions of Director of the American foundation, Sahaj Marg Spirituality Foundation-SMSF, and the great mediator of the new World Service Team of SRCM (California-1997).
This person of Indian origin lives on Staten Island, in upstate New York, USA. An Indo-American to head the SRCM (California-1997) is new. If he truly succeeds Chari - in contrast to Ajay - will he chose the United States or will he settle permanently in India?
Legitimacy is acquired, it can not be decreed
These two appointments targeted a double objective: to stop the succession disputes and to reassure abhyasis about their future. But let us not kid ourselves, these official announcements have never managed to completely turn off the hostilities between the various claimants to the succession, they just put them on hold, if not stifle them. Already, the abhyasis do not all succumb to the charisma of the designated successors. This is not without grimacing and gnashing of teeth. But one must accept the will of the guru, and then make do with it ...
Chari only appointed his successors to better calm the multiple contenders to his succession, but they are only puppets. Their legitimacy will turn off by itself after the death of Rajagopalachari. Legitimacy is acquired, it can not be decreed. The stakes are considerably higher than at the death of Babuji.
In the succession race, his son PR Krishna, the wealthy heir and great financier of the Shri Ram Chandra Mission, which manages the land and the property of the Mission, as his grand-son Barghav and his granddaughter Madhuri are well placed. Santosh Khanjee, the "grey eminence" who knows all the secrets and takes an iron fist throughout the organization and the foundation, has his chances. But his henchmen often at the forefront of the force used in the ashrams (take-over) and all dirty tricks, like Uma Shankar Bajpai and Arokiasamy P Durai (retired police), are agitated also.
Not to mention the medium of Babuji (Catherine Lauret?), who predicted that Ajay Kumar Bhatter would not succeed Chari, just six months before his resignation. For a stage entrance, it was perfectly orchestrated, a total success. But beware, her prestige could be short lived. She is a woman and Chari has always said that a woman could not become guru.
As for outsiders, the grandchildren of Lalaji and Babuji, Navneet and Dinesh, see this as an opportunity that had escaped them, to take over the reins. But the recent media exposure of the son of Dr. Varadachari, KC Narayana, suggests that he intends pull his piece from the game. And although Kasturi still remains out of the power games, it may not be the same for her supporters. And what about Srinivasa Rao, the head of the Shri Ram Chandraji Maharaj Seva Trust of Cuddapah?
And in 2011, another grand-son of Babuji, Sharad Chandra, creates the Society for Babuji's Mission, because he considers that the SRCM(California - 1997) has become too imortant and has overshadowed the spiritual aspects of Sahaj Marg ...
Moreover Rajagopalachari himself was concerned and revealed this in January 2009. He stated that a cancer was eating away at the inside of Sahaj Marg and that his organization was threatened with disintegration. He has nightmares where he sees the Shri Ram Chandra Mission disintegrate into "... 240 small missions".
See also (soon):
Links:
- Chari and Sahaj Marg(tm), or the Western Industrialization of Spirituality
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Saturday, February 18, 2012
Another Grandson of Babuji Throws Himself Into The Adventure ... The Saga of Sahaj Marg!
Taken and translated from an article: "Un autre petit-fils de Babuji se jette dans l'aventure", by Alexis, on Elodie's blog in Europe: Pour Que Vive Le Sahaj Marg.
Society for Babuji's Mission:
Comment by 4d-Don:
It seems that this group confirms yet again our concerns about the "materialist" (not spiritual) bent of the Sahaj Marg (tm) of Chari, and his Shri Ram Chandra Mission (SRCM - California-1997), registered in San Luis Obispo, in 1997. They (every faction) all seem to be somewhat "SPIRITUALIST" (as opposed to "spiritual").
Notice this statement on the first page of this site: "This also earned for Him from the nature the title of "Special Personality". It would appear that "nature" is now giving out "titles"!! Hmmm!!
I am sure that the disciples of other religions (Islam, Christianity, Buddhism, Sufism, etc...) would think that this spiritualist (with an anonymous French Lady Medium, egregores, messages from the spirits of the dead, etc...) group is also not very respectful of their religion by claiming that because Babuji "dreamed" about their "leaders", it means that Babuji and Sahaj Marg now have a "mission" from them all. (these religious leaders are all MEN ... Christians allege that their leader is the one and only "Son of God" and hence, Jesus Christ is allegedly also GOD!! )
From their site (about Sharad Chandra)
Last sitting of him with Babuji was in Paris in (August) in 1982 when he placed both his arms on his head and told "Sharad all I have , I have transferred it to you . Here after you will be the one and only powerful person".
From their site, in "HISTORY" ... Will this group build ashrams also?? The test... Let us wait and SEE (become a "seer") !!
(...) Rev. Babuji was not interested in creating more ashrams buildings because properties create room for differences and were not required too. His wish was that every home should become like an ashram.
One can only surmise that there is no "EGO" in Sahaj Marg ;-)) : "they are all SAINTS" or demi-gods!!
ALL IN YOUR DREAMS !!
February 18, 2012
Another Grandson Of Babuji Throws Himself Into The Adventure
A Society for the Mission of Babuji
Sharad Chandra, son of Prakash Chandra Saxena and grand-son of Babuji (former candidate for the succession of Babuji in 1983-84) created a website on March 23, 2011 to promote the Sahaj Marg through the "Society for Babuji's Mission" , with a sidekick named Shubh Chintak Kishore. (www.societyforbabujismission.org.in)
They say among other things: “ (…) the Organisation grew very fast and became very big and ultimately departed from its object of concentrating on the spiritual mission, as it is involved more in organizational matters.”
But they add: “We, therefore, decided to register the Society to promote His mission "Sahaj Marg" independently, avoiding any legal hassle. Our mind set is to finally merge this Society into the SRCM, once it confines itself to the maintenance and promoting the spiritual awareness, the original mission of Rev. Babuji Maharaj.”
Alexis
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Society for Babuji's Mission:
Comment by 4d-Don:
It seems that this group confirms yet again our concerns about the "materialist" (not spiritual) bent of the Sahaj Marg (tm) of Chari, and his Shri Ram Chandra Mission (SRCM - California-1997), registered in San Luis Obispo, in 1997. They (every faction) all seem to be somewhat "SPIRITUALIST" (as opposed to "spiritual").
Notice this statement on the first page of this site: "This also earned for Him from the nature the title of "Special Personality". It would appear that "nature" is now giving out "titles"!! Hmmm!!
I am sure that the disciples of other religions (Islam, Christianity, Buddhism, Sufism, etc...) would think that this spiritualist (with an anonymous French Lady Medium, egregores, messages from the spirits of the dead, etc...) group is also not very respectful of their religion by claiming that because Babuji "dreamed" about their "leaders", it means that Babuji and Sahaj Marg now have a "mission" from them all. (these religious leaders are all MEN ... Christians allege that their leader is the one and only "Son of God" and hence, Jesus Christ is allegedly also GOD!! )
From their site (about Sharad Chandra)
Last sitting of him with Babuji was in Paris in (August) in 1982 when he placed both his arms on his head and told "Sharad all I have , I have transferred it to you . Here after you will be the one and only powerful person".
From their site, in "HISTORY" ... Will this group build ashrams also?? The test... Let us wait and SEE (become a "seer") !!
(...) Rev. Babuji was not interested in creating more ashrams buildings because properties create room for differences and were not required too. His wish was that every home should become like an ashram.
One can only surmise that there is no "EGO" in Sahaj Marg ;-)) : "they are all SAINTS" or demi-gods!!
ALL IN YOUR DREAMS !!
February 18, 2012
Another Grandson Of Babuji Throws Himself Into The Adventure
A Society for the Mission of Babuji
Sharad Chandra, son of Prakash Chandra Saxena and grand-son of Babuji (former candidate for the succession of Babuji in 1983-84) created a website on March 23, 2011 to promote the Sahaj Marg through the "Society for Babuji's Mission" , with a sidekick named Shubh Chintak Kishore. (www.societyforbabujismission.org.in)
They say among other things: “ (…) the Organisation grew very fast and became very big and ultimately departed from its object of concentrating on the spiritual mission, as it is involved more in organizational matters.”
But they add: “We, therefore, decided to register the Society to promote His mission "Sahaj Marg" independently, avoiding any legal hassle. Our mind set is to finally merge this Society into the SRCM, once it confines itself to the maintenance and promoting the spiritual awareness, the original mission of Rev. Babuji Maharaj.”
Alexis
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Wednesday, February 08, 2012
Natural Path Meditation = Sahaj Marg(tm) & Shri Ram Chandra Mission (SRCM)
Taken From Michael's blog, "Inner Circle of SRCM" in the USA. Michael was a preceptor of SRCM under Chari. (see Michael's blog for his experience with Sahaj Marg and the Shri Ram Chandra Mission (SRCM and SRCM(California-1997), now being called "Natural Path Meditation", Natural Path Group or Natural Path Center.
FYI ... (For Your Information)
FYI ... (For Your Information)
SRCM and Sahaj Marg Renamed as Natural Path Meditation
Since late 2010, several SRCM centers in the US and possibly abroad, appear to have changed references to SRCM in their public meeting announcements on the MeetUp.com and other public Internet sites, using instead a new name of either "Natural Path Meditation Group" or "Natural Path Meditation Center". They also appear to be replacing the term Sahaj Marg with the brand, "Natural Path Meditation" to describe their meditation practice.
For quite some time now, a web search of "SRCM" or "Sahaj Marg" results in one or more blogs critical of SRCM showing up in the early search results. One can easily theorize that such a concerted deception is an attempt to keep prospective members from being informed prior to attending an introductory workshop. Interestingly, many of these Internet meetup invitations also neglect to mention any spiritual Master by name or title.
I am not aware of any official announcement of the re-naming of Sahaj Marg, however, I will honor the SRCM leaderships apparent push to quietly re-brand SRCM/Sahaj Marg. Going forward I will refer to Sahaj Marg as Natural Path Meditation and the SRCM or Shri Ram Chandra Mission as either the Natural Path Meditation Group or the Natural Path Meditation Center.
I hope this clears up any confusion folks my have in their quest to understand more about this organization and its meditation practice.
Alexis Reported:
Sahaj Sandesh No: 2011.32 Sunday, 2 October 2011
1. Mission's official presence on Facebook
It has been brought to our notice that several abhyasis have opened pages / groups related to the Mission on various social networking sites like Facebook, etc. Please kindly note that the Mission is formally present on Facebook at https://www.facebook.com/sahajmarg. Therefore all abhyasis who have opened such pages / groups on Facebook as well as other social networking sites are requested to kindly remove the same immediately and desist from doing so in future.
Please also note that SRCM, Shri Ram Chandra Mission, and the Emblem are registered trademarks of the Mission. Sahaj Marg Spirituality Foundation and the Foundation’s flag are the registered trademarks of the Sahaj Marg Spirituality Foundation. Therefore, by law, the Mission and the Foundation are required to protect their respective trademarks against unauthorized infringements. Therefore, abhyasis are requested to kindly refrain from unauthorized use of these trademarks which are protected under international Trademark laws.
http://www.facebook.com/sahajmarg
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Natural Path Meditation Center, Natural Path Meditation Group Club, Stanford.edu
18 meetup group: http://www.meetup.com/find/?keywords=Natural+Path+Meditation&op=search
Cleveland: http://www.meetup.com/Cleveland-Natural-Path-Meditation-Center/about/
Houston: http://www.meetup.com/Natural-Path-Meditation-Houston/
Wayne: http://www.meetup.com/NaturalPathMeditation/
Dekalb: http://www.meetup.com/Natural-Path-Meditation-DeKalb-Sycamore/
Columbia: http://www.meetup.com/Naturpath-meditation-Columbia-SC/
Jacksonville: http://www.meetup.com/natural-path-meditation-jacksonville/
Etc.
Sunday, January 29, 2012
Sahaj Marg(tm) and the Urgency of Spiritual Realization!
Taken and translated from an article by Elodie: "L'urgence de la realization spirituelle", on her blog in Europe: Pour Que Vive Le Sahaj Marg.
The Urgency of Spiritual Realization
One must believe that I was not yet ready to hear and understand the analysis of Michael when he published it. Yet it is irrefutable and relentless.
Michael was a U.S. abhyasi (and preceptor) from 1979 to 1988. He lived the sad transition from Babuji to Chari from very closely having been involved in the committee for dissemination and censorship of the speeches of Chari. He paid the price of the power struggles within the circle of the closest disciples of Chari.
The full testimony is posted on his blog http://innercircleofsrcm.blogspot.com/
While Sahaj Marg is synonymous with the "natural way", it is actually a practice that cheats nature by force of will to accelerate a "natural" development. It is based on the acceptance that we start from a level of spiritual insufficiency, which requires an external force to rectify the situation.
Babuji's message is that we are not spiritually developed enough and that there is an urgency to do so, the divine realization becomes complete when we reach the Central Region, a brighter world.
The method of Sahaj Marg achieves this goal through meditation on the heart, but it requires a living Master so as to be accelerated, which will promote the spiritual transmission. This is the first crucial point, the dependence vis-à-vis a teacher but there is another, it is the (claimed) exclusivity of the method of Sahaj Marg, which will lead one to serve the Mission.
Doubly blind and total dependence on the Master and the Mission, of the disciple who wants to progress.
Babuji has instilled the idea that we are spiritual midgets, and that it is urgent to progress, and that he has a method to achieve in an ordinary lifetime, the merger with the Divine in the Central Region. If we as spiritual aspirants, want to grow spiritually, we need an all-powerful master and a method incarnated in the SRCM Mission.
The result? The abhyasis jostle for spiritual favors from the Master, in the hope of getting an improvement in return, their just reward. The goal of the spiritual aspirant becomes blind service to the mission, total obedience to the Master for his favor. In theory, the action of the disciple is disinterested, in practice, it is the opposite: he/she is terribly interested, he/she seeks a spiritual reward.
As the spiritual aspirant is not alone, he/she must surpass his/her co-disciples, his/her competitors, to better attract the attention of the Master and get more out of him, enjoying his favor.
The urgency of the result to be achieved, (and) the need to go through a Master to do so, create a competitive atmosphere where all jostle for his (the Master) attention. It's a fierce and selfish competition.
The other result is that in theory there is spiritual transmission from the master to the disciple, but in reality there is only one transfer: the power of the disciple to the Master, the sole beneficiary of this vast spiritual fraud.
Some time ago, I asked these questions at the end of my reflection on the theme of: "Chari, Spiritual Mafiosi"?
What does it serve to join a spiritual group, to follow the teaching of a master and to be supported by a preceptor? Is it just to go faster and to not get lost on the path of spirituality?
How does one choose a good spiritual teacher? How does one recognize him without being misled by false pretenses? How does one trust him without alienating one's freedom and losing one's free will?
The analysis of Michael brings some good answers: let us leave the spiritual nature happen (naturally) without trying to speed it up, so we will not have to lose our freedom. Chari took the power that we gave him, and used it for his own personal ends.
Why always want to go faster, including in spirituality? This concept of urgency, constantly picked up by Babuji and Chari, has nothing spiritual, it is even contradictory. Urgency is instead a modern and materialist concept, an idea that is largely responsible for all the ills of our society.
The SRCM is a wonderful example of our frenzy to reach a goal, a spiritual realization which leads us to the most selfish and competitive conduct.
I remind you that the debate continues and you can get involved by posting a comment on
http://pourquevivelesahajmarg.blogspot.com/2011/10/chari-un-spirituel-mafieux.html
Elodie
Michael said...
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The Urgency of Spiritual Realization
One must believe that I was not yet ready to hear and understand the analysis of Michael when he published it. Yet it is irrefutable and relentless.
Michael was a U.S. abhyasi (and preceptor) from 1979 to 1988. He lived the sad transition from Babuji to Chari from very closely having been involved in the committee for dissemination and censorship of the speeches of Chari. He paid the price of the power struggles within the circle of the closest disciples of Chari.
The full testimony is posted on his blog http://innercircleofsrcm.blogspot.com/
While Sahaj Marg is synonymous with the "natural way", it is actually a practice that cheats nature by force of will to accelerate a "natural" development. It is based on the acceptance that we start from a level of spiritual insufficiency, which requires an external force to rectify the situation.
Babuji's message is that we are not spiritually developed enough and that there is an urgency to do so, the divine realization becomes complete when we reach the Central Region, a brighter world.
The method of Sahaj Marg achieves this goal through meditation on the heart, but it requires a living Master so as to be accelerated, which will promote the spiritual transmission. This is the first crucial point, the dependence vis-à-vis a teacher but there is another, it is the (claimed) exclusivity of the method of Sahaj Marg, which will lead one to serve the Mission.
Doubly blind and total dependence on the Master and the Mission, of the disciple who wants to progress.
Babuji has instilled the idea that we are spiritual midgets, and that it is urgent to progress, and that he has a method to achieve in an ordinary lifetime, the merger with the Divine in the Central Region. If we as spiritual aspirants, want to grow spiritually, we need an all-powerful master and a method incarnated in the SRCM Mission.
The result? The abhyasis jostle for spiritual favors from the Master, in the hope of getting an improvement in return, their just reward. The goal of the spiritual aspirant becomes blind service to the mission, total obedience to the Master for his favor. In theory, the action of the disciple is disinterested, in practice, it is the opposite: he/she is terribly interested, he/she seeks a spiritual reward.
As the spiritual aspirant is not alone, he/she must surpass his/her co-disciples, his/her competitors, to better attract the attention of the Master and get more out of him, enjoying his favor.
The urgency of the result to be achieved, (and) the need to go through a Master to do so, create a competitive atmosphere where all jostle for his (the Master) attention. It's a fierce and selfish competition.
The other result is that in theory there is spiritual transmission from the master to the disciple, but in reality there is only one transfer: the power of the disciple to the Master, the sole beneficiary of this vast spiritual fraud.
Some time ago, I asked these questions at the end of my reflection on the theme of: "Chari, Spiritual Mafiosi"?
What does it serve to join a spiritual group, to follow the teaching of a master and to be supported by a preceptor? Is it just to go faster and to not get lost on the path of spirituality?
How does one choose a good spiritual teacher? How does one recognize him without being misled by false pretenses? How does one trust him without alienating one's freedom and losing one's free will?
The analysis of Michael brings some good answers: let us leave the spiritual nature happen (naturally) without trying to speed it up, so we will not have to lose our freedom. Chari took the power that we gave him, and used it for his own personal ends.
Why always want to go faster, including in spirituality? This concept of urgency, constantly picked up by Babuji and Chari, has nothing spiritual, it is even contradictory. Urgency is instead a modern and materialist concept, an idea that is largely responsible for all the ills of our society.
The SRCM is a wonderful example of our frenzy to reach a goal, a spiritual realization which leads us to the most selfish and competitive conduct.
I remind you that the debate continues and you can get involved by posting a comment on
http://pourquevivelesahajmarg.blogspot.com/2011/10/chari-un-spirituel-mafieux.html
Elodie
Michael said...
Thank you Elodie!
You inspired me to engage in the debate years ago when you created your blog and encouraged me to document my experiences and analysis. I appreciate you and your persistence in pursuit of Truth.
I concluded in my analysis years ago that:
- There is no spiritual practice, there is only embracing our spiritual existence or IS-Ness.
- There is no goal, but only our individual and unique Infinite Journey that has been placed before us by Creator.
- We need not travel down some spiritual garden path when we can embrace the fact our very existence is divine NOW.
I believe these conclusions apply well beyond SRCM.
Best Regards,
Michael
Tue Jan 31, 08:45:00 AM
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Thursday, January 12, 2012
For Sahaj Marg(tm), a New Court Episode?
Taken and translated from an article by Elodie: "Nouveaux Episodes Judiciaires", on her blog: Pour Que Vive Le Sahaj Marg.
It seems that this is a continuation of the old feud between the two (or more) Sahaj Marg's and the two or more SRCM's ... Because SRCM is registered as a charity, we all share in paying their legal expenses with our "tax exempt" subsidies to charities, under the "education" misnomer. Let your taxation offices know your concerns.
God and His Godmen does not need to be "TAX EXEMPT"!! Support your own spiriutalist (and homophobic) beliefs by yourselves, not with society's tax exempt incentives meant for real CHARITIES.
The male God of Sahaj Marg (tm) (or His representatives) can pay HIS taxes like every other PERSON !! The adherents to Sahaj Marg(tm) System are free to put their faith in their alleged "all powerful God", and not rely in the secular (tax) systems of man! No more "tax exempt" for Religion and Spritualism under the misnomer of "education"... Most religions indoctrinate the children with fantasy presented as truth!
Notice the tricky use of SRCM (Shahjahanpur), the society of the Babuji family, which is allegedly presided by Navneet, Babuji's grandson) in the WIPO deposition ... as sneaky as a lawyer!! Does the Sahaj Marg (tm) system offer: Divinity or dishonesty, a state away from our "animal state" ? And all these battles for the corrupt "material", as animals for a carcass of the temporal realm; is that the SPIRITUALISM of Sahaj Marg (tm)??
New Court Episodes?
In the legal battle between the two (2) SRCM's, a new court decision was taken on September 14, 2011.
Read about it: http://www.ipab.tn.nic.in/151-2011.htm
It opposed the SRCM of Shahjahanpur, represented by Puneet Chandra Saxena, grand-son of Babuji and brother of Navneet, and the registered trademark (Sahaj Marg(tm)) of SRCM(California) of Chari.
I'm not sure I understand, but it seems that the authority of the Justice has found itself not competent to rule on the question of who is able to represent the Shri Ram Chandra Mission.
Your opinion, and especially your information are welcome.
Another decision was made November 25, 2011. Read here:
http://www.wipo.int/amc/en/domains/decisions/text/2011/d2011-1573.html
It opposed the SRCM of Shahjahanpur, represented by lawyers of Chari (?) to the creators of the website (Sahaj Marg Systems.com ... now off-line). SRCM of Chari is presented as the custodian of the brand "Sahaj Marg" in India, Australia, New Zealand, the United States, in the Benelux countries and on the Island of Mauritius.
If I understand the decision of the Arbitration Commission correctly, the creator of the site is ordered to give the domain name to the SRCM (California) of Chari.
Thank you for your insights on these issues.
Elodie.
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It seems that this is a continuation of the old feud between the two (or more) Sahaj Marg's and the two or more SRCM's ... Because SRCM is registered as a charity, we all share in paying their legal expenses with our "tax exempt" subsidies to charities, under the "education" misnomer. Let your taxation offices know your concerns.
God and His Godmen does not need to be "TAX EXEMPT"!! Support your own spiriutalist (and homophobic) beliefs by yourselves, not with society's tax exempt incentives meant for real CHARITIES.
The male God of Sahaj Marg (tm) (or His representatives) can pay HIS taxes like every other PERSON !! The adherents to Sahaj Marg(tm) System are free to put their faith in their alleged "all powerful God", and not rely in the secular (tax) systems of man! No more "tax exempt" for Religion and Spritualism under the misnomer of "education"... Most religions indoctrinate the children with fantasy presented as truth!
Notice the tricky use of SRCM (Shahjahanpur), the society of the Babuji family, which is allegedly presided by Navneet, Babuji's grandson) in the WIPO deposition ... as sneaky as a lawyer!! Does the Sahaj Marg (tm) system offer: Divinity or dishonesty, a state away from our "animal state" ? And all these battles for the corrupt "material", as animals for a carcass of the temporal realm; is that the SPIRITUALISM of Sahaj Marg (tm)??
New Court Episodes?
In the legal battle between the two (2) SRCM's, a new court decision was taken on September 14, 2011.
Read about it: http://www.ipab.tn.nic.in/151-2011.htm
It opposed the SRCM of Shahjahanpur, represented by Puneet Chandra Saxena, grand-son of Babuji and brother of Navneet, and the registered trademark (Sahaj Marg(tm)) of SRCM(California) of Chari.
I'm not sure I understand, but it seems that the authority of the Justice has found itself not competent to rule on the question of who is able to represent the Shri Ram Chandra Mission.
Your opinion, and especially your information are welcome.
Another decision was made November 25, 2011. Read here:
http://www.wipo.int/amc/en/domains/decisions/text/2011/d2011-1573.html
It opposed the SRCM of Shahjahanpur, represented by lawyers of Chari (?) to the creators of the website (Sahaj Marg Systems.com ... now off-line). SRCM of Chari is presented as the custodian of the brand "Sahaj Marg" in India, Australia, New Zealand, the United States, in the Benelux countries and on the Island of Mauritius.
If I understand the decision of the Arbitration Commission correctly, the creator of the site is ordered to give the domain name to the SRCM (California) of Chari.
Thank you for your insights on these issues.
Elodie.
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Sunday, January 08, 2012
Kasturi, Lalaji and Sahaj Marg(tm)'s Whispers From The Brighter World!
Taken and translated from an article by Alexis: "Kasturi, Lalaji et Whisper" , on Elodie's blog in Europe: Pour Que Vive Le Sahaj Marg
Sister Kasturi, the only saint of Sahaj Marg, according to Babuji, is one of the first preceptors of Babuji (1945-46). Kasturi supported Chari for a while and then there was a "parting of the ways", and she is now not part of the SRCM(California) of Chari.
It seems that Spiritualism is rampant in this group! But, where is the spirituality? Why all the competition, the divisions, and the spiritualist incantations to, as well as the reliance on the spirits of the deceased, the special personalities, Godmen, Saints, the extra-terrestrials, the aliens, the egregores, the indigo children, an elite race, THEM, etc..?
When do we as a species (or "they", the elite, the chosen, the "special") become RESPONSIBLE ?
Does prayer and a promise of the forgiveness of one's sins, make a "religious" person? Does meditation and the promise of erasing of one's samskaras make a "spiritual" person?
Kasturi, Lalaji and Sahaj Marg(tm)'s Whispers (From the Brighter World)
Elodie will not like (this)!
Now, spirituality progresses around the world, it is a golden time for spirituality, a golden era. So Kasturi decided to celebrate the Basant Panchami in Lucknow on 27, 28 and 29 January 2012 in honor of Lalaji, and she invites all abhyasis.
“Now Spirituality is increasing in every part of the World. (…) This is golden time and golden Era in Spirituality.” (Saint Sister Kasturiji, Lucknow on 01.05.2011)
She prayed to Babuji for two years before he permitted her to celebrate this important holiday, so it's not her desire, Kasturi, but his, Babuji's. Phenomenal ...
“I am praying to Shri Babuji Maharaj for the past two years to do one big function about Shri Lalaji Saheb. Two months back Shri Babuji Maharaj gave me permission to do that Special Function. So it is not my desire.”
But that is not enough for her. Would you believe that Kasturi is also rounding up all the saints from the Brighter World for her celebration. Lalaji and Babuji are not enough for her, Swami Vivekananda is in the game, as are other great saints.
“This is because, Rev. Lalaji Saheb, Rev. Babuji Maharaj & Swamy Vivekanandaji and some other great saints, all are eagerly waiting, from the Brighter-World, for this Divine-Bhandare (Basanta Panchami - 2012) to bestow their Special blessings & Grace to whole humanity.”
Certainly, Kasturi has nothing to envy Chari!
The humble Kasturi, always kept in the shadow of Babuji, suddenly takes advantage of the progress of the spiritual needs, to round up as many people (and spirits) in a gigantic spiritual High Mass.
And why such a High mass in honor of Lalaji? Whereas according to this worshiper of Babuji (Kasturi), Lalaji had the Sant Mat, still present at Fatehgarh, and there was not the slightest connection with Sahaj marg. Still according to her (Kasturi), it is Babuji alone who had Sahaj Marg and the SRCM. The mission is his.
But for this High Mass, she sought Babuji's permission, which eventually he granted, after two years of prayers, moaning and whining. So, much like the medium of Whispers, she now reveals that she chats with him directly. So much good it brings her! ...
Except that all the great saints from the Brighter world are united for the success of the High Mass.
While Kasturi declared to Shashwat Pandey on February 20, 2009: “did Chariji hear the name of “brighter world” during Babuji’s time, or before him or after him? (… ) where ever did he heard this name? (…) did he ever hear this name “brighter world” (laughs..) and then there are messages from this place!”
Yes, Kasturi, one has to be careful what one says! In 2009, the Brighter world did not exist (it seems). Two years later, you've discovered it ...
Poor us, poor Elodie, poor Cyril, Denise and Jean-François (preceptors with Kasturi's schism of Sahaj Marg) . Kasturi is (allegedly) an arrant liar, a liar like all people of Sahaj Marg. Babuji is first ...
Alexis
Elodie Said:
Hi Alexis,
Contrary to what you think, I accept the criticism of Sister Kasturi, I'm not an inveterate fan.
Maybe you're right, but I propose another explanation for her remarks, where there is not the slightest contradiction:
- Sister Kasturi said that Lalaji actually has nothing to do with the Sahaj Marg, but she added that he prayed for the coming to earth of the "special personality", Babuji. As such, she may well pay tribute to him.
- Sister Kasturi never said that the brighter world did not exist. She doubts that Chari has ever approached it, which is very different. She adds herself that Babuji had taken her to the limits of our world of the living and the Brighter World, where the greatest saints live, and she had hence caught a glimpse.
Much love,
Elodie
Sunday, January 8, 2012
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Sister Kasturi, the only saint of Sahaj Marg, according to Babuji, is one of the first preceptors of Babuji (1945-46). Kasturi supported Chari for a while and then there was a "parting of the ways", and she is now not part of the SRCM(California) of Chari.
It seems that Spiritualism is rampant in this group! But, where is the spirituality? Why all the competition, the divisions, and the spiritualist incantations to, as well as the reliance on the spirits of the deceased, the special personalities, Godmen, Saints, the extra-terrestrials, the aliens, the egregores, the indigo children, an elite race, THEM, etc..?
When do we as a species (or "they", the elite, the chosen, the "special") become RESPONSIBLE ?
Does prayer and a promise of the forgiveness of one's sins, make a "religious" person? Does meditation and the promise of erasing of one's samskaras make a "spiritual" person?
Kasturi, Lalaji and Sahaj Marg(tm)'s Whispers (From the Brighter World)
Elodie will not like (this)!
Now, spirituality progresses around the world, it is a golden time for spirituality, a golden era. So Kasturi decided to celebrate the Basant Panchami in Lucknow on 27, 28 and 29 January 2012 in honor of Lalaji, and she invites all abhyasis.
“Now Spirituality is increasing in every part of the World. (…) This is golden time and golden Era in Spirituality.” (Saint Sister Kasturiji, Lucknow on 01.05.2011)
She prayed to Babuji for two years before he permitted her to celebrate this important holiday, so it's not her desire, Kasturi, but his, Babuji's. Phenomenal ...
“I am praying to Shri Babuji Maharaj for the past two years to do one big function about Shri Lalaji Saheb. Two months back Shri Babuji Maharaj gave me permission to do that Special Function. So it is not my desire.”
But that is not enough for her. Would you believe that Kasturi is also rounding up all the saints from the Brighter World for her celebration. Lalaji and Babuji are not enough for her, Swami Vivekananda is in the game, as are other great saints.
“This is because, Rev. Lalaji Saheb, Rev. Babuji Maharaj & Swamy Vivekanandaji and some other great saints, all are eagerly waiting, from the Brighter-World, for this Divine-Bhandare (Basanta Panchami - 2012) to bestow their Special blessings & Grace to whole humanity.”
Certainly, Kasturi has nothing to envy Chari!
The humble Kasturi, always kept in the shadow of Babuji, suddenly takes advantage of the progress of the spiritual needs, to round up as many people (and spirits) in a gigantic spiritual High Mass.
And why such a High mass in honor of Lalaji? Whereas according to this worshiper of Babuji (Kasturi), Lalaji had the Sant Mat, still present at Fatehgarh, and there was not the slightest connection with Sahaj marg. Still according to her (Kasturi), it is Babuji alone who had Sahaj Marg and the SRCM. The mission is his.
But for this High Mass, she sought Babuji's permission, which eventually he granted, after two years of prayers, moaning and whining. So, much like the medium of Whispers, she now reveals that she chats with him directly. So much good it brings her! ...
Except that all the great saints from the Brighter world are united for the success of the High Mass.
While Kasturi declared to Shashwat Pandey on February 20, 2009: “did Chariji hear the name of “brighter world” during Babuji’s time, or before him or after him? (… ) where ever did he heard this name? (…) did he ever hear this name “brighter world” (laughs..) and then there are messages from this place!”
Yes, Kasturi, one has to be careful what one says! In 2009, the Brighter world did not exist (it seems). Two years later, you've discovered it ...
Poor us, poor Elodie, poor Cyril, Denise and Jean-François (preceptors with Kasturi's schism of Sahaj Marg) . Kasturi is (allegedly) an arrant liar, a liar like all people of Sahaj Marg. Babuji is first ...
Alexis
Elodie Said:
Hi Alexis,
Contrary to what you think, I accept the criticism of Sister Kasturi, I'm not an inveterate fan.
Maybe you're right, but I propose another explanation for her remarks, where there is not the slightest contradiction:
- Sister Kasturi said that Lalaji actually has nothing to do with the Sahaj Marg, but she added that he prayed for the coming to earth of the "special personality", Babuji. As such, she may well pay tribute to him.
- Sister Kasturi never said that the brighter world did not exist. She doubts that Chari has ever approached it, which is very different. She adds herself that Babuji had taken her to the limits of our world of the living and the Brighter World, where the greatest saints live, and she had hence caught a glimpse.
Much love,
Elodie
Sunday, January 8, 2012
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Tuesday, January 03, 2012
Sahaj Marg(tm) and Whispers. Decryption (No. 6)
Taken from Alexis's blog in Europe, the Sahaj Marg Project: Un Message Que Vous Ne Pouvez Pas Comprendre, D'abord Tenu Secret, Et Inlassablement Répété
Again, for Sahaj Marg (tm), it's those darned "extra-terrestrials", those "aliens", the Sahaj Marg(tm) "cavalry" !! (as in the Hollywood western movie genre !!) We'll be saved by THEM. THEY know better, and THEY're benevolent ... we hope!!
Are these "aliens" taking over the whole planet, the Galaxy or just " THE WEST"? Is there a "hidden message" here for the WEST in ancient greek mythology? For Troy, the adage became: "Beware of Greeks bearing gifts!!"
In the case of Sahaj Marg(tm), it could read: "Beware of materialist pseudo-spiritual geeks baring grits (liberals or the WEST)!" Or could that read: "spiritualists in spiritual (or invisible?) clothing!"
"THEY" (another Master Race, another "chosen few"... ) are coming with their spiritualist "aliens" and their invented (by their anonymous French lady medium) "extra-terrestrials" (angels?? archangels?? demons?? ) !!
This is a historical: Heads up!! We've been here before!! Many religions seem to be the same, using SPIRITUALISM ... this sort of invented spiritualist fantasy is also used by some materialists to gather the "bad" MATERIAL and/or the "addictive" or lustful power (land, money, etc...)
This group is controlled (and not democratically) by a so-called "chosen" few materialists (businessmen), nationalists and self-titled spiritualists. And, they attempt to control the MATERIAL with spiritualism
(See their Constitution and By-laws, where they state explicitely to being a "dictatorship in favour of the President", and having "standards of spiritualism" !! These "standards" are never written or spoken, unlike the Raja Yoga of Patanjali ... the REAL and complete spiritual path, not the one which Sahaj Marg(tm) adherents claim to practice, and which begins at step #7 of an eightfold path.)
A Message That You Can Not Understand, At First Kept Secret, But Endlessly Repeated
Whispers: decryption (6)
Quotes from "Whispers From The Brighter World", a major fund-raiser for SRCM (California), as compiled by an anonymous French lady Medium, who claims to be channeling Babuji, and others (aliens, extra-terrestrials, beings of light, etc...)
"The effect of these writings is proportional to the interest in reading. (...) The sum of these messages can not be ignored. Whatever reactions they arouse, they mark the reader. We repeat knowingly. This is the best way to capture the attention and to make that our words are truly heard. Human beings are so made. Sometimes, one has to strike hard for the truth to reach deep within them. All the great esoteric movements have understood this. Understanding is developed in successive phases to flower in the objective consciousness So he makes his, this truth that seems obvious. "(20.11.2000) -
" The teachers of all times, used parables to express themselves. You can not force the deaf to hear, it's also why there are few chosen. Really understanding what is hidden in seemingly innocuous words is not given to everyone. (...) A reading, however superficial, prepares for future progress. About the quantity of messages written, we hope that many reach their goal - understand who can. " (21.12.2000) -
(This quote seems to be chanelled from the "extra-terrestrials", the "aliens" themselves ? Oh! My God!! They are in contact with the Sahaj Margees through their MEDIUM, not the Guru or the Master !! Who is the real Master here? )
" Our laws are not easily understood by humans. We do not solve earthly affairs in your way. Once again, my daughter, do not be overcome by doubt. Your mediumistic ability is not at issue in this story. You must adapt to our speech and to our formulas, you can not understand their deeper meaning. Do not rely on statements which may mislead you. They are to be decoded by my son, then do not get emotionally involved in the vagaries of the business of the Mission. They regulate the rhythm of life, taking into account the perpetual play of humans - changing and unreliable. " (02/01/01) -
"These writings (whispers?) will long be forgotten before they re-emerge into the open. So if it suits you to consider that it is a fiction, we see no objection. "(02/25/01) -
" A new world is being prepared. You can imagine it. It is out of range of your understanding. " (11/03/01) -
" Man is an element in this great All, created by a unique and divine will in a universal plan which is indecipherable for him, regardless of his level of intelligence. " (27/03/03) -
" We must move beyond this stage, these messages kept secret for now, and start dealing with other banks of the spirit, where few humans venture. It would be time to open their eyes on their little person (...). " (26/10/03) -
" Such a change is prepared well in advance. It is expected in view of the major changes that go far beyond this planet, we can not yet reveal the strategy. " (07/23/04) -
" (...) this planet is somewhat experimental, subject to many tests on various components. " (29/09/04)
Let us Summarize!
These messages are kept secret for now. These writings will remain long forgotten. Understand who can. You must adapt to our speech and our formulas, you can not understand the deeper meaning. They are to be decoded by my son (Chari? or ??) . These prophecies do not concern you. A new world is being prepared. You can imagine it. It is out of range of your understanding. We can not yet reveal the strategy. This planet is somewhat experimental, subject to many tests. It would be time to open their eyes to their little person. Repetition is the basis of teaching. We must strike hard to flower in the consciousness, so that it becomes an obvious and objective truth.
Repetition is the basis of indoctrination
"We repeat deliberately, it is the best way to capture the attention. All the great esoteric movements have understood this (...) Teachers of all times, used the parable to express themselves. "
Repetition: I already talked about the importance of this technique in manipulating the crowds. Clearly, the medium knows well how to use it, and her approach is fully conscious. This indoctrinates the abhyasis gradually by dint of always repeating the same thing ... with something incomprehensible!
Emergency and misunderstanding
It is urgent, this is the first message endlessly repeated. It is time to open your eyes. But it's secret, you can not understand and it does not concern you. Only Chari is able to decode these messages, we (the aliens?) also do not disclose the strategy.
So in Whispers, you tirelessly repeat a secret message first, and then you can not understand it. The contradiction is obvious, permanent, and probably voluntary. The medium has mastered the art of saying everything and its opposite. The abhyasis reads but does not budge ...
A Very presumptuous Babuji
"It is time to open their eyes on their little person." This planet is experimental and subject to many tests. "The Babuji of Whispers is presumptuous. Our "little person" is doing well, thank you very much, let us hope that the medium is concerned only with her Special Personality and will not submit us to experimental testing. We will do better without them ... better for us?
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Again, for Sahaj Marg (tm), it's those darned "extra-terrestrials", those "aliens", the Sahaj Marg(tm) "cavalry" !! (as in the Hollywood western movie genre !!) We'll be saved by THEM. THEY know better, and THEY're benevolent ... we hope!!
Are these "aliens" taking over the whole planet, the Galaxy or just " THE WEST"? Is there a "hidden message" here for the WEST in ancient greek mythology? For Troy, the adage became: "Beware of Greeks bearing gifts!!"
In the case of Sahaj Marg(tm), it could read: "Beware of materialist pseudo-spiritual geeks baring grits (liberals or the WEST)!" Or could that read: "spiritualists in spiritual (or invisible?) clothing!"
"THEY" (another Master Race, another "chosen few"... ) are coming with their spiritualist "aliens" and their invented (by their anonymous French lady medium) "extra-terrestrials" (angels?? archangels?? demons?? ) !!
This is a historical: Heads up!! We've been here before!! Many religions seem to be the same, using SPIRITUALISM ... this sort of invented spiritualist fantasy is also used by some materialists to gather the "bad" MATERIAL and/or the "addictive" or lustful power (land, money, etc...)
This group is controlled (and not democratically) by a so-called "chosen" few materialists (businessmen), nationalists and self-titled spiritualists. And, they attempt to control the MATERIAL with spiritualism
(See their Constitution and By-laws, where they state explicitely to being a "dictatorship in favour of the President", and having "standards of spiritualism" !! These "standards" are never written or spoken, unlike the Raja Yoga of Patanjali ... the REAL and complete spiritual path, not the one which Sahaj Marg(tm) adherents claim to practice, and which begins at step #7 of an eightfold path.)
A Message That You Can Not Understand, At First Kept Secret, But Endlessly Repeated
Whispers: decryption (6)
Quotes from "Whispers From The Brighter World", a major fund-raiser for SRCM (California), as compiled by an anonymous French lady Medium, who claims to be channeling Babuji, and others (aliens, extra-terrestrials, beings of light, etc...)
"The effect of these writings is proportional to the interest in reading. (...) The sum of these messages can not be ignored. Whatever reactions they arouse, they mark the reader. We repeat knowingly. This is the best way to capture the attention and to make that our words are truly heard. Human beings are so made. Sometimes, one has to strike hard for the truth to reach deep within them. All the great esoteric movements have understood this. Understanding is developed in successive phases to flower in the objective consciousness So he makes his, this truth that seems obvious. "(20.11.2000) -
" The teachers of all times, used parables to express themselves. You can not force the deaf to hear, it's also why there are few chosen. Really understanding what is hidden in seemingly innocuous words is not given to everyone. (...) A reading, however superficial, prepares for future progress. About the quantity of messages written, we hope that many reach their goal - understand who can. " (21.12.2000) -
(This quote seems to be chanelled from the "extra-terrestrials", the "aliens" themselves ? Oh! My God!! They are in contact with the Sahaj Margees through their MEDIUM, not the Guru or the Master !! Who is the real Master here? )
" Our laws are not easily understood by humans. We do not solve earthly affairs in your way. Once again, my daughter, do not be overcome by doubt. Your mediumistic ability is not at issue in this story. You must adapt to our speech and to our formulas, you can not understand their deeper meaning. Do not rely on statements which may mislead you. They are to be decoded by my son, then do not get emotionally involved in the vagaries of the business of the Mission. They regulate the rhythm of life, taking into account the perpetual play of humans - changing and unreliable. " (02/01/01) -
"These writings (whispers?) will long be forgotten before they re-emerge into the open. So if it suits you to consider that it is a fiction, we see no objection. "(02/25/01) -
" A new world is being prepared. You can imagine it. It is out of range of your understanding. " (11/03/01) -
" Man is an element in this great All, created by a unique and divine will in a universal plan which is indecipherable for him, regardless of his level of intelligence. " (27/03/03) -
" We must move beyond this stage, these messages kept secret for now, and start dealing with other banks of the spirit, where few humans venture. It would be time to open their eyes on their little person (...). " (26/10/03) -
" Such a change is prepared well in advance. It is expected in view of the major changes that go far beyond this planet, we can not yet reveal the strategy. " (07/23/04) -
" (...) this planet is somewhat experimental, subject to many tests on various components. " (29/09/04)
Let us Summarize!
These messages are kept secret for now. These writings will remain long forgotten. Understand who can. You must adapt to our speech and our formulas, you can not understand the deeper meaning. They are to be decoded by my son (Chari? or ??) . These prophecies do not concern you. A new world is being prepared. You can imagine it. It is out of range of your understanding. We can not yet reveal the strategy. This planet is somewhat experimental, subject to many tests. It would be time to open their eyes to their little person. Repetition is the basis of teaching. We must strike hard to flower in the consciousness, so that it becomes an obvious and objective truth.
Repetition is the basis of indoctrination
"We repeat deliberately, it is the best way to capture the attention. All the great esoteric movements have understood this (...) Teachers of all times, used the parable to express themselves. "
Repetition: I already talked about the importance of this technique in manipulating the crowds. Clearly, the medium knows well how to use it, and her approach is fully conscious. This indoctrinates the abhyasis gradually by dint of always repeating the same thing ... with something incomprehensible!
Emergency and misunderstanding
It is urgent, this is the first message endlessly repeated. It is time to open your eyes. But it's secret, you can not understand and it does not concern you. Only Chari is able to decode these messages, we (the aliens?) also do not disclose the strategy.
So in Whispers, you tirelessly repeat a secret message first, and then you can not understand it. The contradiction is obvious, permanent, and probably voluntary. The medium has mastered the art of saying everything and its opposite. The abhyasis reads but does not budge ...
A Very presumptuous Babuji
"It is time to open their eyes on their little person." This planet is experimental and subject to many tests. "The Babuji of Whispers is presumptuous. Our "little person" is doing well, thank you very much, let us hope that the medium is concerned only with her Special Personality and will not submit us to experimental testing. We will do better without them ... better for us?
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