Comment by Paolo, Ex-Preceptor of Sahaj Marg!

Taken and translated from a comment by Paolo, ex-preceptor of Sahaj Marg (under Babuji and Chari), on article by Cricri (Christian): Le Temoignage de Cricri, (see English version on this blog: "Ex-Abhyasi of Sahaj Marg, Cricri's Testimonial"), on Elodie's blog in Europe: Pour Que Vive Le Sahaj Marg.

Comments and insertions by 4d-don are in "red italics"

(See reply by Cricri below)


Paolo Said:


The argument that you suggest seems very interesting and even fundamental to any spiritual seeker.

My name is Paolo and I joined Sahaj Marg in 1978. I met Babuji the next year in India and several other times until he departed (April 19, 1983)

I met Chari in 1979 in India when he was secretary general of the SRCM, then I accepted him as the new chairman of the mission and later as master, believing that I was "recognizing the master where he was", basing my decision especially on the perception of the transmission flowing from him.

I worked as a preceptor for 15 years until I left the SRCM in 2003.

I do not think though that I have anything to teach to anyone, but at the same time I am absolutely convinced that we must ask questions and try to answer them honestly.

The first question which you had already asked is:

- Is there a difference between spirituality and power?

and also:

- Does there exist any form of "energetic" power with no spiritual nature?

- The practice of "suggestion" towards the abhyasis or those who are not abhyasis, widely used by Chari and many of the preceptors, (is it) a spiritual practice?
(For example: work by suggesting that someone who abandoned the mission will return)

-In order to be helped spiritually by a Master should one not have, beyond "energetic" power, certain characteristics, innate by a special birth or acquired by his spiritual practice, such as humility or non-attachment to material goals, including the idea of the growth at all costs of his mission?

- Should the Master should not have a direct experience of the spiritual realms, and help us to do the same (direct experience!) And have no recourse to mediums and like people?

I do not think that to ask whether Chari is a channel or not, is a good question.

I'm sure he is a channel but of what "energy" is it?

Is this a purely spiritual "energy", liberating from the grips of the material and helping to enter the spiritual worlds, or, an "energy", which in one way or another, only develops the ego in an infinite expansion?

Someone said that you can judge the tree by its fruits.

Best regards and thank you for all your efforts

Paolo

Saturday, October 1, 2011



Cricri Said:

Paolo,

"believing that I was recognizing the Master where he was", basing my decision primarily on the perception of the trasmission that flowed from him."

From KC Narayana (of ISRC a SRCM break-away group) I learned that the transmission is an act of will.

He has long insisted that I understand the difference between divine grace and transmission.

From the SRCMtm, I was confused.

Transmission can not flow by itself passively it seems, it is something else.

You do not doubt that Chari is a channel, but you doubt about the type of energy that he channels.

What are your assumptions about the nature of this energy?

"I worked as a preceptor for 15 years until I left the SRCM in 2003."

Would you explain, since you are a former insider, how the teacher manipulates the abhyasi to make it obedient and indoctrinated?

I refer to "spiritual" techniques and these famous suggestions emitted during the siting or during the remote (at a distance) working sessions on the abhyasi.

Explain to the readers what this witchcraft recipe is, the readers would not believe if it came from me.

Would thou also tell us why the teacher is unable to advance the abhyasi spiritually?

The suggestions have obviously limits :-)

"for example, to work by suggesting that someone who has abandoned the mission will return"

I know this is the kind of process that one undergoes, and more so from people that we know, and believe to want to do well.

In my case, however, I have taken the lead by addressing the abhyasis of Chari by all the names of birds (Bird-brain) : I'm sure they would not want me to return to their cult! :-)

Yet the sense of my last post is honesty.

Some abhyasis were influenced by blogs while that the choice should have come from them.

Today they have doubts about their decision because they feel they have lost something essential.

(Continuation and end)

We have a spiritual responsibility to be cleansed.

If an abhyasi doubts that he has made the right choice, then, he must return to SRCMtm and not wait, and watch the situation from the inside after having had an outside view.

So he will obtain the means to make a choice that comes from himself, if indeed the "suggestions" which is he is the target leaves him that.

If he decides to leave, he must really have faith, and look hard.
Likewise, if he decides to stay!

"Should The Master not have direct experience of the spiritual realms"

Absolutism demonstrates an inability to understand the complexity of the world, general relativism, the nuances and subtlety of the universe.

It shows a total misunderstanding of nature and the compensatory need to construct a safe mental building.

It is the opposite of living a spirituality which brings us constantly in front of the unknowable.

For this reason, I am awed by the thoughts of Lalaji, whereas with Babuji, an exclusive monotheism is set in place while this exclusivity is absent from the original Sufi teaching.

If Chari has no direct experience of the spiritual realms, he seems to be used as a channel: by what, by whom, for what purpose?

Darth Vader is a beautiful metaphor for Chari.

Both are trapped in a net of influence which they have allowed to develop by ambition, indulgence, and arrogance.

A spark of good is also in Chari: perhaps it will his its work one day?

Perhaps it is already at work, guiding the lost in the maze of his ambition?

And if all this would open on an episode of light?

That's why nothing is decided on Chari and SRCMtm and I want to re-open the debate in a constructive way.

Paolo, you are essential to help us think, thank you for sharing.

Cricri

Wednesday, October 5, 2011