Sahaj Marg's Babuji, A VERY Special Personality!!

Taken and translated from an article by Alexis: Babuji, Une Personalité TRÈS Spéciale, on Elodie's Blog in Europe: Pour Que Vive Le Sahaj Marg.

Comments and insertions by 4d-Don are in "red italics"


Alexis Said:

Babuji, a VERY Special Personality!
In her last message, Élodie expressed concerns about the possibility that Babuji was also a dangerous illuminated.
In the eyes of an ordinary person - who is not mired in spiritualism as in Sahaj Marg - what is known of his life could be reduced to something between onirism, paranoia, (apocalyptic) prophesy and mediumship:
- Onirism:First, the transmission between Lalaji and Babuji in the transition from the life to the death of Lalaji in 1931, then the dreams of Babuji between 1944 and 1945 where he was successively occupied by Lalaji, Vivekananda, Baqi Billah, etc..
- Paranoia:First, between 1931 and 1945 when he feared for his life from jealous competitors, then at the end of his life between 1981 and 83 when he believes that some are conspiring against him, is afraid of being poisoned or assassinated.
- Apocalyptic Prophesy:
Particularly in the early 50s, in his book "Reality at Dawn" (Chapter: My vision) where he sees England sinking under the sea, then in 1955 when he insists that he foretold the change of direction of the Gulf Stream ...
- Mediumship:
With his words from beyond the grave recorded in Whispers, where he continues to announce the upheaval of the world, a nuclear Apocalypse, the arrival of aliens on earth, a new chosen people with the Indigo children, etc..

Spiritually, Babuji is considered a special personality by the proponents of Sahaj Marg, as well as by Chari and KC Narayana and Kasturi. Special personality in the sense that his place and his role are significant to the spiritual (adepts), in the example of the other great saints of all times, such as Jesus, Ramakrishna, Vivekananda, Kabir and Muhammad ...
For an ordinary person, Babuji is a very special personality, a dangerous visionary who navigates between dreamlike (oniric) messages, paranoid behaviour, apocalyptic prophesies, and mediumship from beyond the grave.
Spiritualism has a broad back!
Alexis



Cri-cri Said:

Hello Elodie!
I myself have deep reservations about the whole aristosphere of Sahaj Marg, but I realize that by leaving the space to a single point of view, the blogs have gradually fallen into the same excesses as their opponents.
So would you allow me to publish this message for you to post on your blog for discussion?
I agree:
Babuji seems to have been a fanatic of the first category with the defects listed here. A constant among the mystics is that they are inherently enlightened. And because they are illuminated, they all tend to be excessive in a particular direction, causing an imbalance in their absolute cognitive organization, a form of self-hypnotic obsession.
Parenthetically, those who do aspire to spirituality, with even a foot in reason and normality, are always in one way or another, in a broken life. Someone balanced, responsive, good in his shoes, would not aspire to the beyond.
I would add to the list by Alexis, other elements that are also indications of a basic problem, such as:
1) the suicide of his (Babuji's) son, perhaps revealing a problematic emotional dynamics in the family structure - not only of the sole fact of a Babuji, but of a more ancient ancestry which also resulted in creating a Babuji
2) the intrigues of power with the historical rivalry between religious Hinduism and Islam for the spiritual fatherhood of the (spiritual) technique, especially criticiseable, but understandable in the context
3) the excess of the absolute nature of the teaching, which borders on obsession, since the master is everything, and annihilates the individual, love is permanent and focused on a single object in constant remembrance, in contradiction with others proposals about the spiritual essence of nature: balance
4) the fruit of the tree (section missing from message)
For example.
(Message #2)
But I strongly temper my words and would also counter-balance the claims of Alexis - it must be remembered, (Alexis) has no approach to spirituality, as he recognizes himself. For this gap, he may lack some elements of understanding that led him to his conclusions a little early. But it is his role and he plays it.
1) none of us has known Babuji directly. Those having approached have had an indelible impression, often so strong that it caused the illumination of more than one - to be truly enlightened, it's contagious! Babuji never said he was perfect, it was his disciples who said it. He introduced himself as a mere human being, sometimes doubting himself to the utmost, and putting everything one his master. He knew he had faults, that he was insignificant. His master was everything to him. He (Lalaji, his Master) was not a CEO who hired an employee to act as his successor in a political show, as we have seen recently (and some employees can now resign, an extravagance never seen in a disciple), (a reference to Ajay Kumar Bhatter) but a true mystical relationship between a master and his disciple. If this relationship is imaginary, then the case of Babuji is psychiatric. But can it be imagined, considering the spiritual strength that emanated from Babuji?

Also, if this relationship is not imaginary, (i) Babuji was what he claimed to be (the disciple of his master - not the special personality, which it is others who say), and (ii) the phenomenon may happen again in the near future or distant (eg, if the Chari-sts become too delirious: failure and rupture of the connection by a Muslim, and the emergence of a new haloed head (Saint?), schism and attempted murder)
2) many ambiguities and inconsistencies could potentially be reduced or waived if it were possible to have the clarification of the author (but beware: many of them are creations of the disciples of Babuji) - alas, we are today, unfortunately under the dubious intermediaries, and sentenced to speculate on many events. For example, to say that Babuji was paranoid at the end of his life because he thought he would be killed is an gratuiteous attack. Some aged people experience a profound change in their perception and their cognitive processes, and traits of paranoia sometimes appear after 80 years in subjects which were previously balanced. This paranoia in the elderly is simply an expression of a deep insecurity due to the reduction of physical control over the environment, combined with an impairment of the cognitive and sensory. Caregivers for the elderly are trained to secure the individual through touch.

(Message #3)

In addition, Babuji is dead of an apparent poisoning, while there are no shortage of strange stories about this whole affair. We must also consider what this disappearance has permitted ... Intuitively, because I can not reach a logical proof from the elements that I have, I think it is likely that Babuji was killed. So what seems to have been paranoia on his part could just as easily be an informed intuition. About the (paranoid?) episode of his youth, it could be a stage of spiritual development. Our psyche is full of anguish, and to turn one's attention inward forces us necessarily to confront it.
3) the spiritual phenomenon is a reality. Its explanation is another thing. Denying the problem or to reduce it to a mental illness, is one position. Facing the phenomenon, we therefore have on one hand those which intimate experience has convinced, and on the other hand, those who have no personal experience, and who are convinced otherwise. To the first, the society offers various institutions to indulge their pleasure. To the latter, society offers the right to consolidate. Life is not an hallucination, and when the stream is free of biopsychic structures which put it into shape, the inner experience changes with possible upheavals, and is always inadequate to the socially shared standard. In addition, our dead continue to live in us. Some, like Babuji, seem to have extended their presence in an area much larger than their direct offsprings. It is possible to commune with them and benefit from their help and guidance - do not ask me how it works but there is always more than what we know. Life is a mystery and a source of wonder.
4) messages (Whispers?) from across the Atlantic are a political manipulation of the masses and SRCMtm. Are they from Babuji? I have my doubts. If you can subscribe to certain themes, their use is suspect: to frighten and conquer? The aliens may be playing humanity into an unenviable role, and the biological resources of our planet may be an important wealth in a sidereal desert. Would a superior intelligence not act in accordance with our imaginative abilities to achieve its purpose?
Let us wait and see: if the aliens did not exist, they would probably be invented - and who would take charge of that?
Cri-cri
Friday, September 23, 2011



Alexis Said:


@ Christian,

Welcome Back,

I understand (accept) not being "spiritual" (I've never hidden and instead often reminded everyone, so as to not fool anyone), but since you seem unable to explain what it is, it limits the exchanges and discussions on the subject.
We basically said: spirituality is experienced, it can not be explained.
OK, then act! But I experienced there thirty years ago, without results. I even met Chari with a group of friends at that time. They were (allegedly) illuminated, not me.
So!? Have I not the same right as the others? I was too materialistic to let myself be subjugated? I had too much stigma?
There is probably a little of all this, I think.
But the illumination of friends sometimes persisted, sometimes it disappeared.
Personally, I put this illumination to the account of the charisma or Chari or Babuji. Charisma is nothing else than the result of a huge public expectations, vis-à-vis a personality which is a little unconventional.
Too bad no one is able to be more precise with relative objectivity about what they could have felt in contact with these two people ...

Tuesday, September 27, 2011

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Sahaj Marg(tm)? "What An Ass"!!

Is this SPIRITUALITY "Sahaj Marg(tm)" Style?? Or is this another example of SPIRITUALISM or SPIRITISM? Is this what will make the world more SPIRITUAL and less "materialist" or "sensualist"??

I guess, like some "businessmen" and/or "agents", some must think that if a pseudo-spiritual agent pushes (like a street drug dealer?) a commercial product while standing on his/her 'tippy toes" (ballet?), it shows that he/she has "class"!! It does not, of course. And, if a sales agent promotes or pushes a crass or "corrupt?" material commercial product while entering in a daily navel-gazing bliss, then it must mean that it is "SPIRIT-uality". Again, it does not!!

NOT ... NOT ... NOT ...


From the Newspaper Times of India article by Rajiv Singh, Sept. 20, 2011: Flying Machine's new advertisement draws controversy

"....One of India's early home-grown jeans brands, Flying Machine (see below), over the weekend, released a print advertisement that shows the picture of a female model wearing tight fit jeans around her buttocks, with the catchline in big, bold font screaming: 'What an Ass!' It was probably meant to highlight the oomph and cool quotient in an old brand, perhaps even mimic the edginess of the 'All asses were not created equal' tagline in an advertisement last year by larger rival Levi Strauss & Co. While the jury is out on whether Flying Machine's latest campaign has found resonance with the cool set, the advertisement is generating heat in some quarters. "


The new advertising campaign for Arvind Mills' blue denim jeans is drawing controversy in India. According to an article in the Times of India ( Rajiv Singh, Sept. 20, 2011) Flying Machine's New Advertisement Draws Controversy, Arvind Mills is promoting their new brand: "Flying Machine" blue jeans, by depicting the ass of a woman. This is allegedly not as acceptable as the company thought, and some women's rights activists are crying "foul".

What does this have to to with Sahaj Marg(tm)??

Here is the profile of the Lalbhai Group, and for Arvind Mills and their "board of directors"

The Chairman and Managing director of Arvind Mills, Sanjay Lalbhai, is (or was) also a trustee of the Sahaj Marg Spirituality Foundation (SMSF). The "chairman" stated in an interview that the immediate goal of his company was 10% of the US "blue jean" market. (see here from the patent office of the USA). Accpording to Chari (in one of his speeches), Sanjay also made donations to the SRCM. Later, Chari was seen (and photographed) wearing a new pair of "western blue jeans", which were rumoured to have cost (accompanied by a donation of?) "a million bucks".

Corporate structure for Sahaj Marg Spirituality Foundation (SMSF), Roswell Georgia (of UFO fame ... Flying Machine?? ) ...

Women's rights groups are incensed, and rightly so. Betrayed again, and by the women of Sahaj Marg(tm) who say NOTHING!! Would you, the "judas goats" inside Sahaj Marg(tm), also sell your girls to this type of advertisement campaign, (simply because a businessman, a profiteer donated to your so-called "corrupt" new religion??

Apparently some "GURUS", who preach and point at others, also have flexible ethics and morals and would trade their endorsement for a price or a donation. (the end justifies the means ... Machiavelli). All are FREE to build their commercial and nationalist empires, but stop preaching at the rest of the world, like pseudo-spiritualist hypocrites. BE HONEST !!

Ah! Ah! Ah! What a mess! What a mess!! What a SPIRITUALIST mess!!

First, with Sahaj Marg(tm), the company-line was "think with your heart (the PUMP for blood) not with your brain". And then, from one of its pseudo-spiritual trustees, it now is: "What an ASS"!! Is Sahaj Marg(tm) drifting toward: "Think with your ass"?? I thought it was western men who were said (by some women) to "think with their penis"??

Come on Women!! Are some of you still led by the nose by some pseudo-spiritual old farts who want to see your young girls in "what an ass", sexy, pair of western blue jeans! Do you still believe in their MALE GOD?? Their BRIGHTER WORLD?? Are you still kneeling before those who discriminate on the basis of gender (sexism), or "skin complexion" (racism), or sexual preference (Homosexuality) ?? According to Chari, all religions promote violence and war (see your VBSE curriculum, lesson X). Is that "tolerance" for other religions??

How "FUNDAMENTALIST" !!

Call your anonymous French Lady MEDIUM and ask the "spirit" of deceased Babuji (SPIRITUALISM) !! ... and Chari or his so-called "medium" will answer!! (Is that "spiritualist" CONTROL??) You will of course believe that it is Babuji who spoke the message. How silly!! How SPIRITUALIST!!

Women have struggled long in opposition to being branded and/or marketed as: chicks, foxy, rabbits (breeders of loose morals), broads, etc...

An "ass", beside being a "behind", and hence, not a leading part of the human anatomy, is also the name of an alleged dense, and "dumb" animal !!

But: "What an ass"!! eh?? Ka-ching, Ka-ching!! It's all about MONEY!! And POWER!! Taking over commercial markets!! That is the SPIRITUALITY of India, being exported to our shores!!

Sahaj Marg(tm) and SRCM(California-1997) is once again shown to be simply a gang of nationalist, imperialist, SPIRITUALIST businessmen, who are not very SPIRITUAL ... Sahaj Marg(tm) claims to be a Raja Yoga, starting at step #7. Now we know why. One can do anything as long as one "meditates" or "prays", ignoring steps 1 to 6 of Patanjali's Raja Yoga. Does that now sound like every other RELIGION??

I join John Lennon of the Beatles:
"Imagine there's no country and no religion too..."

Where in Raja Yoga is the ethics and morality of: "What an ass" ??

No sex please ... we are SPIRITUAL!! ;-))


I have only one (facetious) complaint or suggestion:

Could "Flying Machine" use the "ass" of a more "mature" woman !! ;-) Say, a 70 year old woman?? lol lol

Maybe all the "mature" women in Sahaj Marg(tm) are chasing the young men!! So they live with shame and can't "speak out"!! Ah! How Power corrupts!!


Power tends to confuse itself with virtue and a great nation is particularly susceptible to the idea that its power is a sign of God's favor, conferring upon it a special responsibility for other nations– to make them richer and happier and wiser, to remake them, that is, in its own shining image. Power confuses itself with virtue and tends also to take itself for omnipotence. Once imbued with the idea of a mission, a great nation easily assumes that it has the means as well as the duty to do God's work.

J. William Fulbright





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See also:

Chari' s Million Dollar "Western Blue Jeans"
Sahaj Marg Spirituality Foundation (SMSF) acts like a Privately-owned Fund

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More "destruction" being worked for at Sahaj Marg(tm)!

Comments to speech by Chari, "Scatter the Seeds of Spirituality" at the 9 March 2011, Ashram Inauguration, Raipur, India


Comments by 4d-don are in "red italics"

Now the Predictions of "Destruction" by an "apocalyptic" sectarian "cult of a (special) person":


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"Babuji Maharaj was once working on the plane when I was sitting near him, sitting next to him, coming back from, I think Europe. He was deeply engrossed – khoye-khoye baithe the. After thirty, forty minutes I asked him, “Babuji, you were lost. What were you doing?” He said, “Tum batao. [You tell me.]” So I said, “You are probably doing some work in the future.” He said, “How much in the future?” I said, “I don’t know mathematics, so I cannot tell you, but quite far in the future.” He patted me on the back and said, “Shabaash! [Well done!]” I said, “But, for such a small reply you are saying Shabaash!” He said, “You don’t know; one person in a million cannot give this answer. To know that it was in the future was itself a great answer to an important question. To know that it was quite far into the future was even better.” I said, “Now tell me what you were actually doing?” He said, “I was preparing the foundation for the special personality that will come to destroy this universe when Kali Yuga ends.” Thousands and thousands of years in the future, you see."

Now the Universe will allegedly be destroyed by a "special person-ality", (and Babuji is not that "person", as some like to claim) ... And if all the world changes? Then like all religions, they infer that no destruction will take place ... and the UNIVERSE will exist "as is" ETERNALLY, with the religions and their materialists (them also??) not existing, but all the citizens of the world serving the all-new and natural MASTER OF THE UNIVERSE, the Lord of Sahaj MART(tm) ...

Research the history of Sahaj Marg on this site, and see if you think that the UNIVERSE (nature) will favour such "divisive" and materialist (matter) endeavours which are in reality: RELIGION or spiritualism, not spirituality!! I mean "favour" by destroying everything!!

And now (see below), they even have "soldiers" and "their officers"!! Much like the other "RELIGIONS" ... another pyramid inside a pyramid ... all very religious, militarist, "materialist" (matter) and "business" structures of the OLD PARADIGM ... not SPIRIT!! And not very SPIRITUAL!! Sort of like Christianity, Islam, Judaism, et al ...

How about a song to march to? (in 4/4 time):

(The officer says: " ... by the "right" quick march ..." and everybody sings: )

"Onward Sahaj Marg(tm) Soldiers, marching as to war"

The OLD PARADIGM in a "pseudo-spiritual" veneer, which is in REALITY: SPIRITUALISM, with an anonymous French Lady Medium, messages from the "spirits", and egregores, indigo children, and now an "army"!! Ho-hum !! What a mess!!

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"I am happy to see our jawans [soldiers] and their officers here; I welcome them. I am happy that our efforts have reached them too, and I hope I will see battalions of them in the future. May they progress well. May they all grow. God bless all of you."

the word: "battalions", comes from the word: "battle"... Battalions do battle!! Against whom? The forces of SATAN ?? Other religions??

A point of theology:

If there is an "end of the world" (a "mahapralaya"), then there can be no "karma" or "samskaras". The "END" cancels all the accumulated KARMA or samskaras !! Whether one has accumulated Karma (moral or ethical debts) or not, the "END of the WORLD" cancels ALL.

Then, if there is an "End of the World", there must be a "Brighter World" (or a "heaven", or a "central region"??) for those without "karma"?? Or is Sahaj Marg's "theology on the run", really a flawed theology?? Do they just make it up as they go? If there's a "heaven" which Babuji seems to say is "UP", then is there also a "hell", which would be "DOWN"?? Babuji infers that !!

Then, is there a "caretaker" in hell ?? If there is "bliss" in heaven, then is there "fire" or suffering in hell (as with the religious hell) , after the "destruction" ?? Is there still "samskaras" after the "END" ??

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