Message from Michael: Inner Circle of SRCM and "Skai Journey" Michael's personal blog.
Michael is an ex-preceptor of SRCM and ex-member of Chari's "inner circle". This is his reply to my e-mail to him, that he kindly allowed me to publish.
Michael said:
I spend my days in ceremony and meditation, creating a sustainable environment in which to exist as a sovereign spirit in the eyes of the creator.
The bankers, politicians, religious leaders and spiritualists have done what they can to create an environment that requires the citizen/disciple to become overwhelmed with indebtedness in exchange for gifts and trinkets. Debt is the enslavement of the new age. As our politic/religion/spirit leaders talk about environmentalism and sustainability, they continue to enslave us with unsustainable burdens of monetary and spiritual debt with the promise of a future paradise if only we totally surrender to them with total indebtedness and servitude.
Its now happening on all levels of existence, spirit/mind/body,
political/economic/environmental. This is the true state of the "end
days". But, please understand that "end days" is the creation of the
slave masters and is not part of some divine plan. In fact the journey
is infinite and there truly is no end. These grand structures being
created are not sustainable and ultimately do come to an end.
Again... I spend my days in ceremony and meditation, creating a
sustainable environment in which to exist as a sovereign spirit in the
eyes of the creator.
Unsustainable, debt based structures are collapsing under their own
weight. The "new world order" of spiritualist/politicians ask that we
give them one last chance to lead us to paradise in exchange for total
surrender and indebtedness that can never be paid. I choose to build
structures that will survive the devastation being brought upon us and
choose not to participate in this insane "slave against slave" war.
I am a warrior, not a soldier...
I am neither a disciple nor a master...
I choose to be free of indebtedness and live a sustainable existence...
I accept what the Creator provides me on my infinite journey...
I owe only my Creator for my life and the only payment required is to
love Creation...
You are right, NO ONE is needed... Because if no one shows up for the battle the Masters will have to fight amongst themselves.
As for Lalaji, he created no organizations, and asked for nothing in
return. He simply existed for the benefit of those who knew him. When
he departed, he left a void that few if any could fill. Some felt
obligated to create something in the void he left behind - SRCM,
Golden Sufi, Sant Mat, Ram Ashram etc... Some, in their delusions,
believed that they were channeling his essence, but, this channeling
is in fact their own creation in a vacuum. The simplicity of his
message became the fuel to power these new structures, created where there were none before.
We see the same in the aftermath of Jesus' life on earth. Churches and ideologies have been created in his name which have nothing to do with the man who spent 40 days in the desert on a vision quest. A man who returned from his vision quest to heal and liberate all human souls and transmit the Holy Spirit to all of humanity.
A simple message is a powerful thing. It fuels the soul and spirit and can easily be overshadowed by self serving ideologies created by those who choose to exploit its power to enslave the masses.
I have no desire to scream on the web like an angry adolescent. No single, decrepit organization deserves any more attention than another. They are all the same - they all are one. They all seek to enslave with the promise of some future freedom. It is time to build a better place to live free and proceed on the infinite journey laid before us by our Creator. Those who choose enslavement will either eventually choose freedom for themselves or die as slaves. The choice cannot be made for them when the truth stares them in the eye.
Wednesday, March 18, 2009
Why Does SRCM (California-1997) need "Material" MONEY?
Taken from Elodie's Blog in France: Pour Que Vive le Sahaj Marg in the comments to the article titled: Temoignage de Jean Francois
4d-Don said:
The preceptors have to LIE in their attempts to justify the constant demands for MONEY from the SRCM Management Team!
This is a comment by SAM:
Hello,
In response to my comments on the constant demands for money, my preceptor told me they had their "raison d'être": apparently, the SRCM now finances many hospitals, charities, schools, etc, and therefore needs money that is used for humanitarian purposes.
I went to search on the internet to see what these charities are that require such funding (through whispers, the hookha, the doubling of the subscription ...)
Here are the results of my research:
Omega school is a (private) school which is funded by students and therefore paying it's way easily with the price of membership. However, it is not a school that teaches in the urban slums and can respond to any humanitarian criterion but rather, it is a private school.
Scholarships to pay airfare to abhyasis who can not afford to travel to and from Manappakam coming from under developed countries. The idea is good but I have not found anywhere what budget is allocated, how many abhyasis have enjoyed funding since the creation of these scholarships, which countries they come from. No info is available, which makes me wonder. Indeed, when an action is really necessary, Chari inaugurates, makes speeches, there are statistics such as about the omega school (enrollment, class ...) but now I have found nothing. Who benefited from these scholarships, how many are there, one or one hundred? Mystery.
Free hospitals, although it is a wonderful idea but what is it? I found by searching on the internet the centers of light. It is in fact infirmaries at the ashrams, where abhyasis doctors come to volunteer one week a year or once a month and treat those who come, abhyasis or not abhyasis. The idea is commendable but does not require monumental funding, the care taking place in premises that are already existing and being manned by volunteers. I did not find any evidence of a hospital which was built by the srcm hiring staff or buying equipment. It's very different.
Then I found the one-time funding requests in the event of natural disasters, the tsunami in Southeast Asia or Hurricane Katrina. These one-time donations are collected and returned to the Red Cross, yet a laudable idea, but that has nothing to do with explaning the requests for money that were made.
Finally, finally, I discovered that srcm UK and Canada are registered as charities, the charities listed are the ashrams, seminars, and meditation halls. They were declared as organizations promoting public health through the practice of raja yoga (one is never better served than by oneself).
This is my small individual research helped me find what I quote above. Nothing explains the financing demands that are increasing.
Maybe I searched wrong? I would be delighted to be contradicted and learn that there really are charitable and humanitarian activities undertaken by the srcm and that explain the demands for money. I have not found any.
Sam
Tuesday March 17, 09:59:00 AM
4d-Don said:
The preceptors have to LIE in their attempts to justify the constant demands for MONEY from the SRCM Management Team!
This is a comment by SAM:
Hello,
In response to my comments on the constant demands for money, my preceptor told me they had their "raison d'être": apparently, the SRCM now finances many hospitals, charities, schools, etc, and therefore needs money that is used for humanitarian purposes.
I went to search on the internet to see what these charities are that require such funding (through whispers, the hookha, the doubling of the subscription ...)
Here are the results of my research:
Omega school is a (private) school which is funded by students and therefore paying it's way easily with the price of membership. However, it is not a school that teaches in the urban slums and can respond to any humanitarian criterion but rather, it is a private school.
Scholarships to pay airfare to abhyasis who can not afford to travel to and from Manappakam coming from under developed countries. The idea is good but I have not found anywhere what budget is allocated, how many abhyasis have enjoyed funding since the creation of these scholarships, which countries they come from. No info is available, which makes me wonder. Indeed, when an action is really necessary, Chari inaugurates, makes speeches, there are statistics such as about the omega school (enrollment, class ...) but now I have found nothing. Who benefited from these scholarships, how many are there, one or one hundred? Mystery.
Free hospitals, although it is a wonderful idea but what is it? I found by searching on the internet the centers of light. It is in fact infirmaries at the ashrams, where abhyasis doctors come to volunteer one week a year or once a month and treat those who come, abhyasis or not abhyasis. The idea is commendable but does not require monumental funding, the care taking place in premises that are already existing and being manned by volunteers. I did not find any evidence of a hospital which was built by the srcm hiring staff or buying equipment. It's very different.
Then I found the one-time funding requests in the event of natural disasters, the tsunami in Southeast Asia or Hurricane Katrina. These one-time donations are collected and returned to the Red Cross, yet a laudable idea, but that has nothing to do with explaning the requests for money that were made.
Finally, finally, I discovered that srcm UK and Canada are registered as charities, the charities listed are the ashrams, seminars, and meditation halls. They were declared as organizations promoting public health through the practice of raja yoga (one is never better served than by oneself).
This is my small individual research helped me find what I quote above. Nothing explains the financing demands that are increasing.
Maybe I searched wrong? I would be delighted to be contradicted and learn that there really are charitable and humanitarian activities undertaken by the srcm and that explain the demands for money. I have not found any.
Sam
Tuesday March 17, 09:59:00 AM
Tuesday, March 17, 2009
What is an Egregore? Is it Part of Raja Yoga?
This is the Message from Chari, claiming he received it from Babuji (see it on Sahaj Sandesh, Mar. 9, 2009)
Warning to PRECEPTORS of SRCM(California-1997)
Does that sound like Babuji? Meditate and ask Babuji ... Ask a Saint! How about the "only saint in Sahaj Marg" according to the FOUNDER, Babuji ... Sister Kasturi? You will know! It contradicts what he said about his Sahaj Marg: focussing on the ULTIMATE, not on the POWERS ...
Are you, the PRECEPTORS who are deputized and given a "title and a certificate" and a "mission", to attract others to this "cult of a Personality", ready to lure others, including children, into this "Magic and Mysticism" as used by the neophytes and amateur "imperialists, and materialists" inside the schism of SRCM (California-1997)?
Chari, the current (old) Master, may get away with it, as he is "defended" by his "POLICE" and by you, and he will not live forever! ... Who will defend you? And those you "LURE" into this "creating an...egregore" ritual by outright bold-faced lying or lying by "omission"? Some will get angry!! Are you protected from the egregores of "other sects", such as the RELIGIONS who also have "egregores" and/or "archangels" and already have a history of "violence" using such "egregores" as the egregores take on a life of their own, and change over time?
Babuji, and many other "wise men", warned about playing with, accessing and using the POWERS !! Will you heed the warning or be led by egotists and "profiteers"? This could be Babuji's (or the "autonomous egregore's") last warning. If you serve that autonomous BEAST, you will do so "WILLINGLY". The consequences are on your head as you have been made aware by Babuji while he was living, and in his books, and many others, and by this BLOG ...
This is just another ploy, a scheme, to get "MONEY" from you and to get you to buy the next issue of "WHISPERS" and to sell it to others, as the channeled Sahaj Marg Bible! Channeled by an "anonymous French Lady Medium" messages claimed to be received from some anonymous "other great souls", to be "obeyed", and repeated before even being read with the BRAIN. Don't OBEY! And dis-empower their "egregore". You can do it!
Remember, in the battles of the "egregores", the first victims are the "holy innocents", the "do-gooders", the "opponents of corruption", who are not protected by "gangs of goons" as the leaders and creators of "egregores" are. The "gangs" of corrupt "collectors of funds for birthday bashes" for the egotist LEADERS, display the behaviour described in sociology as "groupthink" and "mob mentality", and they don't act like rational or "civilized" people, but like idolatrous fans and even like murderous "brutes" as the egregores take on a life of their own.
Corrupt theology leads to corrupt spiritual practices, to corrupt philosophy, to corrupt psychology, to corrupt sociology, and the use of "egregores", "archtypes" or "archangels" to carry out cultural, racial, and nationalistic "wars".
No more egotistic "birthday parties" in the name of "SPIRITUALITY"...
Don't BECOME spiritual, as Babuji would say: Come, BE spiritual!! (inverted endo? ;-)) )
4d-Don....
To protect your family and friends, there is a "Cease and Desist Order" template here that can be changed and adapted to your situation. They (the egregore) will not let you go "FREELY".
What is an "egregore" or "egregor"
From: Embark to Mysticism:
Most of the material found here is taken from internet sources, mostly from Rosicrucian and general mystical sites. An accepted definition would be: It is the psychic and astral entity of a group. It is a kind of group mind which is created when people consciously come together for a common purpose. Each of us belong to several of these groups. The process is unconscious. There also are drawbacks, some disturbing psychic influences in many cases, and a restriction of freedom. It is impossible to free oneself from certain egregores, for example the egregores of the country you live in. However we should free ourselves from non-essential egregores.
If this process is continued for a long time, the egregore will take on a life of it's own, even if all the members should pass through transition, it would continue to exist on the inner dimensions and can be contacted even for centuries later by a group of people prepared to live the lives of the original founders, particularly if they are willing to provide the initial input of energy to get it going again. These thought-forms are created reality by an individual or a group. They exist in the exoteric and esoteric realms. They are created by groups such as societies or cultures, professions and trades, or any group. They can be accessed by all members of that group. They change as the group contacting them changes.
The egregore is prone to change, either to evolve or degenerate as members of that group change. The group then reflects the changing "egregore". This contact of group members to their "egregore" is automatic in most cases, when the member actually feels that he/she is a member of that group. Most members are unconscious of this process. There are also instances where some groups deliberately use the egregore for the spiritual development and well being of their members.
This is true of various mystical organizations. For some beginners, this is where the danger lies, because of the tendency of man to seek protection, the price of which is often a loss of freedom.
(...)
I will add in closing: Choose your egregore carefully, it can be of utmost importance in bona fide Mystical Orders and very disastrous in the wrong hands.
From: Liora Sara Bernstein at: http://www.mystae.com/streams/scripts/egregor.html
Eliphas Levi, The Great Secret, Thorson Publishers Ltd., 1975. Chapter 10, "The Magnetism of Evil" (pp. 127-136) has a multitudinous array of egregors (spelt without an "e"):
Davidson explains that in the Qumran Community, the war between The Sons of Light (the Qumranites) and The Sons of Darkness (all outside the sect) ... "is to be conducted with acute awareness of the place of the angelic world in it.... 1QM 9.10-16 provides details on battle formations which involve four 'towers' ('Migdalot') which are apparently units of soldiers with specifically long spears and shields.... On each of their shields is written the name of one of the four archangels." (p.228).
see also: How to incarnate an "egregore" ... http://user.cyberlink.ch/~koenig/fs3.htm
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"Tuesday, March 3, 2009 10:00 a.m.
The 9:00 p.m. prayer is neglected in our Mission by many abhyasis. It is important and should not be neglected like that. It is about a rallying point, and union between the hearts, on a vibratory level, where is created the favourable egregore, i.e. a subtle bond between practising abhyasis. This ritual is not to be neglected. Is this too much to ask for? It would be wise for all to become aware of it. A few moments of interiorization and convergence of thought can only serve our Mission, i.e. all our brothers and sisters who have decided to follow their divine Master. May the wise ones remember it, for the good of all.
- Babuji Maharaj."
Warning to PRECEPTORS of SRCM(California-1997)
Does that sound like Babuji? Meditate and ask Babuji ... Ask a Saint! How about the "only saint in Sahaj Marg" according to the FOUNDER, Babuji ... Sister Kasturi? You will know! It contradicts what he said about his Sahaj Marg: focussing on the ULTIMATE, not on the POWERS ...
Are you, the PRECEPTORS who are deputized and given a "title and a certificate" and a "mission", to attract others to this "cult of a Personality", ready to lure others, including children, into this "Magic and Mysticism" as used by the neophytes and amateur "imperialists, and materialists" inside the schism of SRCM (California-1997)?
Chari, the current (old) Master, may get away with it, as he is "defended" by his "POLICE" and by you, and he will not live forever! ... Who will defend you? And those you "LURE" into this "creating an...egregore" ritual by outright bold-faced lying or lying by "omission"? Some will get angry!! Are you protected from the egregores of "other sects", such as the RELIGIONS who also have "egregores" and/or "archangels" and already have a history of "violence" using such "egregores" as the egregores take on a life of their own, and change over time?
Babuji, and many other "wise men", warned about playing with, accessing and using the POWERS !! Will you heed the warning or be led by egotists and "profiteers"? This could be Babuji's (or the "autonomous egregore's") last warning. If you serve that autonomous BEAST, you will do so "WILLINGLY". The consequences are on your head as you have been made aware by Babuji while he was living, and in his books, and many others, and by this BLOG ...
This is just another ploy, a scheme, to get "MONEY" from you and to get you to buy the next issue of "WHISPERS" and to sell it to others, as the channeled Sahaj Marg Bible! Channeled by an "anonymous French Lady Medium" messages claimed to be received from some anonymous "other great souls", to be "obeyed", and repeated before even being read with the BRAIN. Don't OBEY! And dis-empower their "egregore". You can do it!
Remember, in the battles of the "egregores", the first victims are the "holy innocents", the "do-gooders", the "opponents of corruption", who are not protected by "gangs of goons" as the leaders and creators of "egregores" are. The "gangs" of corrupt "collectors of funds for birthday bashes" for the egotist LEADERS, display the behaviour described in sociology as "groupthink" and "mob mentality", and they don't act like rational or "civilized" people, but like idolatrous fans and even like murderous "brutes" as the egregores take on a life of their own.
Corrupt theology leads to corrupt spiritual practices, to corrupt philosophy, to corrupt psychology, to corrupt sociology, and the use of "egregores", "archtypes" or "archangels" to carry out cultural, racial, and nationalistic "wars".
No more egotistic "birthday parties" in the name of "SPIRITUALITY"...
Don't BECOME spiritual, as Babuji would say: Come, BE spiritual!! (inverted endo? ;-)) )
4d-Don....
To protect your family and friends, there is a "Cease and Desist Order" template here that can be changed and adapted to your situation. They (the egregore) will not let you go "FREELY".
What is an "egregore" or "egregor"
From: Embark to Mysticism:
Most of the material found here is taken from internet sources, mostly from Rosicrucian and general mystical sites. An accepted definition would be: It is the psychic and astral entity of a group. It is a kind of group mind which is created when people consciously come together for a common purpose. Each of us belong to several of these groups. The process is unconscious. There also are drawbacks, some disturbing psychic influences in many cases, and a restriction of freedom. It is impossible to free oneself from certain egregores, for example the egregores of the country you live in. However we should free ourselves from non-essential egregores.
If this process is continued for a long time, the egregore will take on a life of it's own, even if all the members should pass through transition, it would continue to exist on the inner dimensions and can be contacted even for centuries later by a group of people prepared to live the lives of the original founders, particularly if they are willing to provide the initial input of energy to get it going again. These thought-forms are created reality by an individual or a group. They exist in the exoteric and esoteric realms. They are created by groups such as societies or cultures, professions and trades, or any group. They can be accessed by all members of that group. They change as the group contacting them changes.
The egregore is prone to change, either to evolve or degenerate as members of that group change. The group then reflects the changing "egregore". This contact of group members to their "egregore" is automatic in most cases, when the member actually feels that he/she is a member of that group. Most members are unconscious of this process. There are also instances where some groups deliberately use the egregore for the spiritual development and well being of their members.
This is true of various mystical organizations. For some beginners, this is where the danger lies, because of the tendency of man to seek protection, the price of which is often a loss of freedom.
(...)
I will add in closing: Choose your egregore carefully, it can be of utmost importance in bona fide Mystical Orders and very disastrous in the wrong hands.
From: Liora Sara Bernstein at: http://www.mystae.com/streams/scripts/egregor.html
Eliphas Levi, The Great Secret, Thorson Publishers Ltd., 1975. Chapter 10, "The Magnetism of Evil" (pp. 127-136) has a multitudinous array of egregors (spelt without an "e"):
Levi refers to the powers of nature and the cosmos as egregors. "These colossal forces have sometimes taken a shape and have appeared in the guise of giants: these are the egregors of the Book of Enoch." (p. 127).
Levi later claims, discussing the planets; "...governed by those genii which were termed the celestial watchers, or egregors, by the ancients." (p. 129)
Further on in his article he relates the egregor to the Kabbalistic Adam Kadmon ("that collective giant"), to the "Anakim in the Bible," and generally speaking to natural powers operating the world and to their analogies as they have been expressed in myths in various cultures. When he has done that, he says:
"This is why we reject the mythology of the egregors finally and absolutely." (p. 130).
The manuscript of this work had been finished in 1868 and was first printed in 1897. Levi, who had been trained as a Roman Catholic Priest, died in 1875. The founders of the Golden Dawn were acquainted with his writings. Levi himself was conversant with Rosicrucian ideas.
Also from Ms. Bernstein...
Of John Dee it has been claimed that he was the "founder of the Rosicrucian Order, the protestant response to the Jesuits" (About Dr. John Dee).
An additional question left unanswered is whether Dr. Dee was aware of the word egregor in the sense of a watcher/angel from the Book of Enoch. I have not learned his system, but as far as I know it contains four Watch Towers with designated governors, or angels. Generally speaking, the word "governor" in Dee's context is translated into Hebrew as "Sar" 
(the letter "shin" vowelled as "sin" and the letter "reish"), when it is retranslated it would be "arch" like "archangels (Greek "archon" also translated as 'Prince'). This type of angel, the archangel, appears in the Book of Enoch, and the "Sarim" in there are called "Irim" as well.
(the letter "shin" vowelled as "sin" and the letter "reish"), when it is retranslated it would be "arch" like "archangels (Greek "archon" also translated as 'Prince'). This type of angel, the archangel, appears in the Book of Enoch, and the "Sarim" in there are called "Irim" as well.
What is even more amazing is that the Dead Sea Scrolls refer to "towers" protected by angels. During a discussion of angelic names, M. J. Davidson, in his Angels at Qumran (Sheffield Academic Press, 1992), explains that "The group of four archangels, Michael, Sariel, Raphael and Gabriel are called by Syncellus (1.En.9.1) 'megoloi archanggeloi'. (Syncellus in his time distinguished between 'mere' archangels and 'Mega' Archangels). The same list occurs in 1QM9.14-16, where the shields of the towers are to be inscribed with these four names." (p.326).
Davidson explains that in the Qumran Community, the war between The Sons of Light (the Qumranites) and The Sons of Darkness (all outside the sect) ... "is to be conducted with acute awareness of the place of the angelic world in it.... 1QM 9.10-16 provides details on battle formations which involve four 'towers' ('Migdalot') which are apparently units of soldiers with specifically long spears and shields.... On each of their shields is written the name of one of the four archangels." (p.228).
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Friday, March 13, 2009
Is Chariji Trying To Destroy the Mission?
Taken from Elodie's Blog in France: Pour Que Vive le Sahaj Marg in an article called:
Is Chariji trying to destroy the Mission?
Whispers from the Brighter World - A Second Revelation - Talk given on Sunday, 1st March at Manapakkam, India
Dear Brothers and Sisters,
The importance of what I am going to say makes me defer the satsangh till I have said what I have to say. (Making money is more important than "the practice". Delay the Service to pass the "collection" or crass commercialism, PROMOTION, advertisement! ) You know we have already published one volume of Whispers from the Brighter World containing messages (from an anonymous French lady Medium, and claimed to be ) from my Master, Babuji Maharaj, and other great souls of the Brighter World. (So the Sahaj Marg BIBLE will be "channeled" by "other great souls"??? They are losing it!! No forethought... just making it up as he goes along... teach that to the "children") In a few weeks, actually on the 30th of April, 2009, to celebrate the birthday of my Master, we propose to release the second volume called Whispers from the Brighter World, A Second Revelation. It is true that books have to cost money. (yes a lot of money, unlike the BIBLE) This publication, as you would have seen already in Volume One, is as good from outside as it is spiritually valuable inside. (You have seen how playing with "spiritualism" and "egregores" has "divided" your family, friends, society, and has made many "emotional" to the point of seeking solutions and even "therapy" outside of Sahaj Marg. Solutions by the secular courts, and therapy by the "pseudo-spiritual preceptors" who sell their "alternative" therapies inside the "Churches" and/or Ashrams. ) I may also tell you, if you are willing to consider it as such, my happy (happy for you, and your "dream", not for the "divided world around you who also has "dreams"... ) information that there will be at least two more volumes after volume two: Volume Three, Volume Four, which we hope, with Babuji’s messages, to be released on 30th April 2010 and 2011. If He graces us with His wisdom, with His advice and with His blessings, there will be even a fifth volume in 2012. Thereafter, Insha Allah! (So he just keeps changing the "new issues" of his books that never end ... he's found a "gold mine" and he is "milking it", just like fiction writers, who addict (suggest as in: "post-hypnotic suggestion") their "clients" into purchasing their "next" book.)
These books will form the Bible of Sahaj Marg. (channeled by an anonymous French lady Medium and sent by "other great souls", and even by "autonomous psychic entities called "egregores". ) If you have read Volume One with the attention that they deserve to be read, these messages are from out of this world. (from the MIND and from an "egregore"... collective Groupthink ... or a delusion) Therefore they qualify to be called shruti. (very "shrewd-ie") Shruti means revealed (not channeled from "other" unknown spirits and/or egregores. ) knowledge — not heard knowledge, not thought-of knowledge, not intellectual, not owing any authorship to human beings. (But to an autonomous psychic entity, "egregore", according to CHARI, which is "of the MIND", GROUPTHINK ) Babuji was a human being, He is divine. (Now Babuji is going to be "divinized", just like the Christ of the Christians) From the source in the Brighter World, whatever comes is not only worth listening to, and to be read, but it is very important that you follow those precepts, those principles, the advices given in Volume One and which are going to be given in Volume Two, and I expect in three and four; and hopefully, prayerfully, in Volume Five. (Now the Channeled messages from the DEAD are "Precepts" and "Principles" to be OBEYED... Including the ONES not given yet ... That is great Philosophy (NOT) and worthy of the most corrupt RELIGION... He is Salting the "gold mine" then "milking the cash cow" before the product is "created" or ready for sale)
Don’t look at what you have to pay for it. (Don't use your Brain ... Brainwashing ... take the money from your family, children and give it to CHARI!! DON'T! Take care of your family, the POOR, the NEEDY and the SICK and be SPIRITUAL and insist that your Master BE SPIRITUAL, not just an addict to the material and the sensual rush of MEDITATION or rituals in a GROUP with an egregore and/or GROUPTHINK ...) Even today I am told that [with] gold costing fifteen hundred rupees a gram, people are buying gold. (Chari knows about Gold and the MATERIAL ... Maybe he can get more "funding" from the nationalist/capitalist who's been funding him in the past!! Wear some more Blue Jeans as a COMMERCIAL for the generous DONORS to your Commercial EMPIRE!! ) It is just a metal. If you don’t know where it is, it’s lost, the value is gone. If tomorrow gold falls to five hundred rupees a gram, you have lost money. Whereas what you are going to get is the Bible of Sahaj Marg, the Vedas of Sahaj Marg, the shruti. (What a JOKE... Sahaj Marg has sure sunken from claiming falsely to be a "modified Raja Yoga" to this "spiritualism" ... Sir Walter Scott said: "What a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive"... It sure applies in this "corrupt religion". The Bible of Sahaj Marg will only have "one issue" and other editions are "prohibited" until 2030 or "50 years", whichever comes first... ;-)) )
I would request you not to hesitate, (get out the wallet, and tell everyone that there are "no demands for Money in Sahaj marg"... all is FREE... It's called "selective pressures" or "peer pressures", and it will make some "gullible souls" obey. but it ain't SPIRITUALITY... just crass commercialism) but to acquire a copy before you leave this hall, before you leave this ashram. And pass this message on to all your brothers and sisters, because they will not be reprinted within the next fifty years ( From 2009 to 2030 is not equal to 50... He's just inventing stuff as he goes along. He's under the control of the autonomous psychic entitiy called the "egregore") — not any of them. Volume One will not be reprinted. Volume Two will not be reprinted — there will be only one edition. And if my successor feels that it is necessary, may be sometime in 2030, 2035, you may see a second edition. This is my decision, so don’t look for a second edition. It will not come. This is policy. This is an instruction to my successor, Ajay Bhatter, that there shall be no reprint of this book before the year 2030. (And Ajay Bhatter will OBEY? How will he raise his money? He will no doubt say in the future that the "deceased" Chari sent him a message from the Brighter World to "reprint" the Bible. And that is to be the Sahaj Marg Bible? What a con-man... in France, Chari is called: "le Grand Lascar" (con-man) and Babuji: "le Grand philosophe". It seems like the "great con-man", has won the day and is now milking the herd or flock of the "grand philosophe".)
So please acquire it and don’t depend on the computer to read it everyday, because Volume Two will not be released on the internet till I say it should be done. (Oh! we expected that... ) There you see it like a cinema — freely, it doesn’t make any impression. These messages are intended to be — you are advised to read one each day, no more. ( another ritual or "order" made up as he goes along) It may be one line or it may be five lines. The famous Veda vaakya [sentence], satyam vada [speak the truth], is only two words. Dharmam chara [be righteous] — another two words. So Vedic knowledge does not come in big, you know, pages and pages. That is left to us human beings. I am speaking to you over a period of, may be ten or fifteen minutes, in which you could have said, “What are you gabbing about? Why all this blah-blah? Say, ‘It is important’ — three words. And we accept your advice.” (here is your "post hypnotic" command... Now DIS-OBEY and show your FREEDOM)
I hope you will all accept my advice because it has been my very great privilege, probably the fruit of my past tapasya [penance] in so many lives, that I am able to prepare Whispers for printing, and therefore I have read them again and again and again before they come to you. (now it seems to come from Chari, not Babuji ... oops a Freudian slip ... I guess the "egregore" is at work again ... He 's trying to make us believe that he knows his past lives ... WRONG!! EGO! DELUSIONS!! )
Please accept what I say. Money is earned, money is lost. Today we see billionaires falling (and pseudo-Spiritual capitalists also) — what of two hundred rupees or five thousand rupees. Billionaires! One billion [dollars] is worth five thousand crores. They are nowhere today. Yesterday’s king, as Babuji used to say, is today’s pauper; and today’s pauper is tomorrow’s king. But in spirituality we shall all rise to the divine kingdom which is called the Brighter World. (And like all BILLIONAIRES, he's at the trough, trying to suck some more money from the hard-working COMMONERS ... SHUT them DOWN. Get them off the backs of the PEOPLE, like "Vampires" ... Close the material structures (churches) and FEED THE POOR and the NEEDY. History will remember them as addicts and parasites, just like the rest of Religions, not our MASTERS nor our LEADERS, and not in a position to give advice anymore. LOSE THE MATERIAL MISSION and start being SPIRITUAL.)
Under the influence of modern education, we have turned the brain into our storage device whereas it is only a computing machine. It is as corruptible, if not more corruptible, than a hard disk, because a brain can be ruined in one second, either by physical damage, or electrical damage, or by just collapse of its functions, as has been known very well in medical history. The true storage device for the human being is the heart, (Wrong... the heart is a PUMP, not a storage device. And the heart is also "corruptible" and will "break down" in many unhealthy conditions, and/or at the end of the Life of the entity, just like the Brain.) and shrutis must go into the heart, smritis [scriptures written by great saints] to the head. What I am now speaking about is the shruti — the four or five volumes projected of Whispers from the Brighter World, which, I sincerely assure you, will be the body of Veda for Sahaj Marg for all time. (Shruti's or Shrewd-ies, by an anonymous French lady MEDIUM who is channeling messages from "other anonymous great saints" does not constitute Shruti's or "shrewdies" but maybe it will fool the "dummies".)
I pray that you will all be wise (gullible, dummies, living dead who use their heart to think, etc...) and acquire what is most valuable for you: wisdom, spiritual knowledge and Babuji’s blessings. (Wisdom, Spiritual Knowledge, and Babuji's blessings, like all other "gifts" from the DIVINE, don't have to be BOUGHT in a "pyramid sales scheme"... crass commercialism, sales, promotion, and more commercialism, advertising and "post-hypnotic" suggestions ...
They (SRCM (California-1997) are in financial crisis and are trying to get you to bail them out like all the CAPITALISTS. These are just other "SPIRITUAL CAPITALISTS" , televangelists, scam artists, who sell you the "illusion" of LIBERATION or Salvation in the "other World" ... DON"T BUY it again. It's like an OPIATE and as addictive ... It is a tactic of the 12th century with a 20th century "trade-marked" commercial PRODUCT ... WE are more evolved than that!! Aren't you??). Teach these CAPITALISTS a lesson this time so they can become SPIRITUAL and not be so greedy, power-addicted and materialistic, next time. Maybe they will see the POOR, the SICK, the NEEDY as more important than birthday parties, Ashrams, and sensuality under the guise of spiritual or "narcissistic "navel gazing" with a promise on the OTHER SIDE ... Just like RELIGION. They are trying for their last pool of money, their last scam, before they GO DOWN!! Just like Bernie Madoff, who "made off" with the LOOT in a Ponzie Scheme.
Thank you.
Is Chariji trying to destroy the Mission?
Chariji is still trying to sell us the "Whispers (From the Brighter World)" despite recent statements by Sister Kasturiji. He delayed the satsang on Sunday March 1, 2009, to promote a book he compares to the Bible and the Vedas. A book that blurs the message of Sahaj Marg, peddling lies and shames the memory of Babuji, according to Sister Kasturiji. (The only saint in Sahaj Marg, according to Babuji)
Our many defections since 2005 and the shameless marketing of the first volume did not teach them a lesson?
If this constitutes the future Sahaj Marg Bible, why is it so expensive? Why does he prohibit a new edition before 2030 when it should be spread everywhere? If we can read at most one message per day, why will he be not publish it on the Internet as the first volume?
Unfortunately there is only one answer to that, he does it for money, only for the money. This is the only thing that interests him.
One has to believe that he definitely wants to destroy what remains of the famous Shri Ram Chandra Mission history and leaving a vast field of rubble behind him.
No, really, I can not find the slightest excuse for him. Finished!
Elodie
(Comments by 4d-don are in italics and red)Our many defections since 2005 and the shameless marketing of the first volume did not teach them a lesson?
If this constitutes the future Sahaj Marg Bible, why is it so expensive? Why does he prohibit a new edition before 2030 when it should be spread everywhere? If we can read at most one message per day, why will he be not publish it on the Internet as the first volume?
Unfortunately there is only one answer to that, he does it for money, only for the money. This is the only thing that interests him.
One has to believe that he definitely wants to destroy what remains of the famous Shri Ram Chandra Mission history and leaving a vast field of rubble behind him.
No, really, I can not find the slightest excuse for him. Finished!
Elodie
Whispers from the Brighter World - A Second Revelation - Talk given on Sunday, 1st March at Manapakkam, India
Dear Brothers and Sisters,
The importance of what I am going to say makes me defer the satsangh till I have said what I have to say. (Making money is more important than "the practice". Delay the Service to pass the "collection" or crass commercialism, PROMOTION, advertisement! ) You know we have already published one volume of Whispers from the Brighter World containing messages (from an anonymous French lady Medium, and claimed to be ) from my Master, Babuji Maharaj, and other great souls of the Brighter World. (So the Sahaj Marg BIBLE will be "channeled" by "other great souls"??? They are losing it!! No forethought... just making it up as he goes along... teach that to the "children") In a few weeks, actually on the 30th of April, 2009, to celebrate the birthday of my Master, we propose to release the second volume called Whispers from the Brighter World, A Second Revelation. It is true that books have to cost money. (yes a lot of money, unlike the BIBLE) This publication, as you would have seen already in Volume One, is as good from outside as it is spiritually valuable inside. (You have seen how playing with "spiritualism" and "egregores" has "divided" your family, friends, society, and has made many "emotional" to the point of seeking solutions and even "therapy" outside of Sahaj Marg. Solutions by the secular courts, and therapy by the "pseudo-spiritual preceptors" who sell their "alternative" therapies inside the "Churches" and/or Ashrams. ) I may also tell you, if you are willing to consider it as such, my happy (happy for you, and your "dream", not for the "divided world around you who also has "dreams"... ) information that there will be at least two more volumes after volume two: Volume Three, Volume Four, which we hope, with Babuji’s messages, to be released on 30th April 2010 and 2011. If He graces us with His wisdom, with His advice and with His blessings, there will be even a fifth volume in 2012. Thereafter, Insha Allah! (So he just keeps changing the "new issues" of his books that never end ... he's found a "gold mine" and he is "milking it", just like fiction writers, who addict (suggest as in: "post-hypnotic suggestion") their "clients" into purchasing their "next" book.)
These books will form the Bible of Sahaj Marg. (channeled by an anonymous French lady Medium and sent by "other great souls", and even by "autonomous psychic entities called "egregores". ) If you have read Volume One with the attention that they deserve to be read, these messages are from out of this world. (from the MIND and from an "egregore"... collective Groupthink ... or a delusion) Therefore they qualify to be called shruti. (very "shrewd-ie") Shruti means revealed (not channeled from "other" unknown spirits and/or egregores. ) knowledge — not heard knowledge, not thought-of knowledge, not intellectual, not owing any authorship to human beings. (But to an autonomous psychic entity, "egregore", according to CHARI, which is "of the MIND", GROUPTHINK ) Babuji was a human being, He is divine. (Now Babuji is going to be "divinized", just like the Christ of the Christians) From the source in the Brighter World, whatever comes is not only worth listening to, and to be read, but it is very important that you follow those precepts, those principles, the advices given in Volume One and which are going to be given in Volume Two, and I expect in three and four; and hopefully, prayerfully, in Volume Five. (Now the Channeled messages from the DEAD are "Precepts" and "Principles" to be OBEYED... Including the ONES not given yet ... That is great Philosophy (NOT) and worthy of the most corrupt RELIGION... He is Salting the "gold mine" then "milking the cash cow" before the product is "created" or ready for sale)
Don’t look at what you have to pay for it. (Don't use your Brain ... Brainwashing ... take the money from your family, children and give it to CHARI!! DON'T! Take care of your family, the POOR, the NEEDY and the SICK and be SPIRITUAL and insist that your Master BE SPIRITUAL, not just an addict to the material and the sensual rush of MEDITATION or rituals in a GROUP with an egregore and/or GROUPTHINK ...) Even today I am told that [with] gold costing fifteen hundred rupees a gram, people are buying gold. (Chari knows about Gold and the MATERIAL ... Maybe he can get more "funding" from the nationalist/capitalist who's been funding him in the past!! Wear some more Blue Jeans as a COMMERCIAL for the generous DONORS to your Commercial EMPIRE!! ) It is just a metal. If you don’t know where it is, it’s lost, the value is gone. If tomorrow gold falls to five hundred rupees a gram, you have lost money. Whereas what you are going to get is the Bible of Sahaj Marg, the Vedas of Sahaj Marg, the shruti. (What a JOKE... Sahaj Marg has sure sunken from claiming falsely to be a "modified Raja Yoga" to this "spiritualism" ... Sir Walter Scott said: "What a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive"... It sure applies in this "corrupt religion". The Bible of Sahaj Marg will only have "one issue" and other editions are "prohibited" until 2030 or "50 years", whichever comes first... ;-)) )
I would request you not to hesitate, (get out the wallet, and tell everyone that there are "no demands for Money in Sahaj marg"... all is FREE... It's called "selective pressures" or "peer pressures", and it will make some "gullible souls" obey. but it ain't SPIRITUALITY... just crass commercialism) but to acquire a copy before you leave this hall, before you leave this ashram. And pass this message on to all your brothers and sisters, because they will not be reprinted within the next fifty years ( From 2009 to 2030 is not equal to 50... He's just inventing stuff as he goes along. He's under the control of the autonomous psychic entitiy called the "egregore") — not any of them. Volume One will not be reprinted. Volume Two will not be reprinted — there will be only one edition. And if my successor feels that it is necessary, may be sometime in 2030, 2035, you may see a second edition. This is my decision, so don’t look for a second edition. It will not come. This is policy. This is an instruction to my successor, Ajay Bhatter, that there shall be no reprint of this book before the year 2030. (And Ajay Bhatter will OBEY? How will he raise his money? He will no doubt say in the future that the "deceased" Chari sent him a message from the Brighter World to "reprint" the Bible. And that is to be the Sahaj Marg Bible? What a con-man... in France, Chari is called: "le Grand Lascar" (con-man) and Babuji: "le Grand philosophe". It seems like the "great con-man", has won the day and is now milking the herd or flock of the "grand philosophe".)
So please acquire it and don’t depend on the computer to read it everyday, because Volume Two will not be released on the internet till I say it should be done. (Oh! we expected that... ) There you see it like a cinema — freely, it doesn’t make any impression. These messages are intended to be — you are advised to read one each day, no more. ( another ritual or "order" made up as he goes along) It may be one line or it may be five lines. The famous Veda vaakya [sentence], satyam vada [speak the truth], is only two words. Dharmam chara [be righteous] — another two words. So Vedic knowledge does not come in big, you know, pages and pages. That is left to us human beings. I am speaking to you over a period of, may be ten or fifteen minutes, in which you could have said, “What are you gabbing about? Why all this blah-blah? Say, ‘It is important’ — three words. And we accept your advice.” (here is your "post hypnotic" command... Now DIS-OBEY and show your FREEDOM)
I hope you will all accept my advice because it has been my very great privilege, probably the fruit of my past tapasya [penance] in so many lives, that I am able to prepare Whispers for printing, and therefore I have read them again and again and again before they come to you. (now it seems to come from Chari, not Babuji ... oops a Freudian slip ... I guess the "egregore" is at work again ... He 's trying to make us believe that he knows his past lives ... WRONG!! EGO! DELUSIONS!! )
Please accept what I say. Money is earned, money is lost. Today we see billionaires falling (and pseudo-Spiritual capitalists also) — what of two hundred rupees or five thousand rupees. Billionaires! One billion [dollars] is worth five thousand crores. They are nowhere today. Yesterday’s king, as Babuji used to say, is today’s pauper; and today’s pauper is tomorrow’s king. But in spirituality we shall all rise to the divine kingdom which is called the Brighter World. (And like all BILLIONAIRES, he's at the trough, trying to suck some more money from the hard-working COMMONERS ... SHUT them DOWN. Get them off the backs of the PEOPLE, like "Vampires" ... Close the material structures (churches) and FEED THE POOR and the NEEDY. History will remember them as addicts and parasites, just like the rest of Religions, not our MASTERS nor our LEADERS, and not in a position to give advice anymore. LOSE THE MATERIAL MISSION and start being SPIRITUAL.)
Under the influence of modern education, we have turned the brain into our storage device whereas it is only a computing machine. It is as corruptible, if not more corruptible, than a hard disk, because a brain can be ruined in one second, either by physical damage, or electrical damage, or by just collapse of its functions, as has been known very well in medical history. The true storage device for the human being is the heart, (Wrong... the heart is a PUMP, not a storage device. And the heart is also "corruptible" and will "break down" in many unhealthy conditions, and/or at the end of the Life of the entity, just like the Brain.) and shrutis must go into the heart, smritis [scriptures written by great saints] to the head. What I am now speaking about is the shruti — the four or five volumes projected of Whispers from the Brighter World, which, I sincerely assure you, will be the body of Veda for Sahaj Marg for all time. (Shruti's or Shrewd-ies, by an anonymous French lady MEDIUM who is channeling messages from "other anonymous great saints" does not constitute Shruti's or "shrewdies" but maybe it will fool the "dummies".)
I pray that you will all be wise (gullible, dummies, living dead who use their heart to think, etc...) and acquire what is most valuable for you: wisdom, spiritual knowledge and Babuji’s blessings. (Wisdom, Spiritual Knowledge, and Babuji's blessings, like all other "gifts" from the DIVINE, don't have to be BOUGHT in a "pyramid sales scheme"... crass commercialism, sales, promotion, and more commercialism, advertising and "post-hypnotic" suggestions ...
They (SRCM (California-1997) are in financial crisis and are trying to get you to bail them out like all the CAPITALISTS. These are just other "SPIRITUAL CAPITALISTS" , televangelists, scam artists, who sell you the "illusion" of LIBERATION or Salvation in the "other World" ... DON"T BUY it again. It's like an OPIATE and as addictive ... It is a tactic of the 12th century with a 20th century "trade-marked" commercial PRODUCT ... WE are more evolved than that!! Aren't you??). Teach these CAPITALISTS a lesson this time so they can become SPIRITUAL and not be so greedy, power-addicted and materialistic, next time. Maybe they will see the POOR, the SICK, the NEEDY as more important than birthday parties, Ashrams, and sensuality under the guise of spiritual or "narcissistic "navel gazing" with a promise on the OTHER SIDE ... Just like RELIGION. They are trying for their last pool of money, their last scam, before they GO DOWN!! Just like Bernie Madoff, who "made off" with the LOOT in a Ponzie Scheme.
Thank you.
Waaldijk frank said ...
(Frank is SRCM's ex-Zonal-in-Charge for the Netherlands. He now has a Blog: The Pitfalls of Spirituality See his article: Obedience and Groupthink: the Sahaj Marg Example)
elodie,
I am in complete agreement. the more I see the path that chari takes, the more I realize that my past hope that Sahaj marg could bring some good to the world-was misplaced.
this new path ... "whispers" confirms once again that money plays a very important role in Sahaj Marg today.
I still wonder from time to time anyway, why devote my energy to comment on this?
Well, I think there are people who will benefit and will arrive earlier to the same conclusions as us. on the other hand, there are many other cases in the world worth a serious criticism. cases much worse in my eyes than Sahaj marg.
for me a reason to continue my comments (not often, however) is that with Sahaj Marg, I have 12 years experience (with many good things too). then one can not easily say that my criticism is unjustified or ill-informed.
but like you I have lost hope that Chari and Sahaj marg will resume the simple spiritual journey ... where money plays no role.
thank you for your messages,
cordially,
frank
Elodie said ...
Jean-François has added a new comment on your message "An Interview with Sister Kasturi:
(Jean-Francois and Denise Mincet are preceptors for Sister Kasturi (now living in Victoria, B.C.) They are not associated with SRCM (California - 1997) and Chari. Denise has done (and continues to do) some translation work for Sister Kasturi.)
I knew Babuji well in India and France. I was made a preceptor in 1976 by Babuji (I was 22 years). I also know Chari, having met him in France and also in India while I was following Babuji in his travels. At each visit of Babuji, he showed me his divinity on several occasions. This is not imagination but deep spiritual experiences. I saw his divine splendor hidden behind his disconcerting simplicity. I saw the beauty and purity to which a sincere and searching soul should aspire. His system is perfect and it can help each and everyone in his/her search towards the Absolute, the Ultimate. All the drifting that I witnessed after his physical disappearance had nothing to do with what our Babuji has taught us. There should not be any money and contributions in his system. The Ultimate does not sell its grace grace and Babuji neither.
Kasturi represents well the purity of Babuji and his system. Babuji had sent us Kasturi to France in 1977 to work on the abhaysis. He gave her the title of Saint in her lifetime. In his correspondence with her, Babuji wrote that he had taken her across the Rings of Splendour in 1975 and that he had immersed her in the Ultimate (Bhuma), the extreme Divine condition (Anant Yatra - vol.5 - Anant Yatra means Journey in the Infinite, which is a collection of the correspondence between Babuji and Kasturi between 1948 and 1975, approximately 900 letters; Babuji had instructed Kasturi to keep these letters carefully in order to publish them when the proper time came for the benefit of mankind. The first 2 volumes have been translated by Denise (Mincet), she continues to translate and her translations are all discussed with sister Kasturi before the publication in French).
Babu Ji is a divine personality, which is quite different from a Master. Those who knew him, saw his extreme humility and simplicity, and his love. I found similar qualities in Kasturi. She is now able to confer divine conditions and advancing all sincere abhyasis. We go to see her regularly in Lucknow.
I must add that I left everything connected with the mission of Chari in July 1986. For this mission no longer corresponds anymore with what Babuji had brought. Babuji has never asked for obedience in the Mission. Instead, he spoke of love, when love is there, the confidence is there. Blind obedience destroys the sense of discernment, which is essential in spirituality; discernment must accompany us at every moment along the way. Babuji has never asked for blind faith, and he always said to experiment and to see the changes in one's self.
It is understandable that many people find themselves despising the nature of Sahaj Marg (SRCM-California-1997) and unfortunately they end up rejecting it totally. The real Sahaj Marg is a path of divine light that should lead everyone towards Peace and beyond, despite all the difficulties of earthly life. But who gives peace? Search your heart and pray Babuji to bring you to him. But let's take "Babuji" in its broadest and unlimited sense ie in his Divine state of Reality.
Denise and I left France, but there are in France abhyasis and preceptors trained by Kasturi, practicing the system in simplicity, without any organization, but connected to Babuji and connected to Kasturi.
I hope with all my heart that you receive the blessings of Babuji and his grace.
Jean-François Mincet, a servant.
If you have any questions, please contact us at dmincet@gmail.com
PS I am not proselytizing, I hate that. I am simply trying to tetify to what my Master gave me, and which nobody in the world could have given me. But today, though disembodied, he may give just as much by transmission to those who have not met physically. Denise can attest to this.
Monday March 16, 07:26:00 AM
(Frank is SRCM's ex-Zonal-in-Charge for the Netherlands. He now has a Blog: The Pitfalls of Spirituality See his article: Obedience and Groupthink: the Sahaj Marg Example)
elodie,
I am in complete agreement. the more I see the path that chari takes, the more I realize that my past hope that Sahaj marg could bring some good to the world-was misplaced.
this new path ... "whispers" confirms once again that money plays a very important role in Sahaj Marg today.
I still wonder from time to time anyway, why devote my energy to comment on this?
Well, I think there are people who will benefit and will arrive earlier to the same conclusions as us. on the other hand, there are many other cases in the world worth a serious criticism. cases much worse in my eyes than Sahaj marg.
for me a reason to continue my comments (not often, however) is that with Sahaj Marg, I have 12 years experience (with many good things too). then one can not easily say that my criticism is unjustified or ill-informed.
but like you I have lost hope that Chari and Sahaj marg will resume the simple spiritual journey ... where money plays no role.
thank you for your messages,
cordially,
frank
Elodie said ...
Jean-François has added a new comment on your message "An Interview with Sister Kasturi:
(Jean-Francois and Denise Mincet are preceptors for Sister Kasturi (now living in Victoria, B.C.) They are not associated with SRCM (California - 1997) and Chari. Denise has done (and continues to do) some translation work for Sister Kasturi.)
I knew Babuji well in India and France. I was made a preceptor in 1976 by Babuji (I was 22 years). I also know Chari, having met him in France and also in India while I was following Babuji in his travels. At each visit of Babuji, he showed me his divinity on several occasions. This is not imagination but deep spiritual experiences. I saw his divine splendor hidden behind his disconcerting simplicity. I saw the beauty and purity to which a sincere and searching soul should aspire. His system is perfect and it can help each and everyone in his/her search towards the Absolute, the Ultimate. All the drifting that I witnessed after his physical disappearance had nothing to do with what our Babuji has taught us. There should not be any money and contributions in his system. The Ultimate does not sell its grace grace and Babuji neither.
Kasturi represents well the purity of Babuji and his system. Babuji had sent us Kasturi to France in 1977 to work on the abhaysis. He gave her the title of Saint in her lifetime. In his correspondence with her, Babuji wrote that he had taken her across the Rings of Splendour in 1975 and that he had immersed her in the Ultimate (Bhuma), the extreme Divine condition (Anant Yatra - vol.5 - Anant Yatra means Journey in the Infinite, which is a collection of the correspondence between Babuji and Kasturi between 1948 and 1975, approximately 900 letters; Babuji had instructed Kasturi to keep these letters carefully in order to publish them when the proper time came for the benefit of mankind. The first 2 volumes have been translated by Denise (Mincet), she continues to translate and her translations are all discussed with sister Kasturi before the publication in French).
Babu Ji is a divine personality, which is quite different from a Master. Those who knew him, saw his extreme humility and simplicity, and his love. I found similar qualities in Kasturi. She is now able to confer divine conditions and advancing all sincere abhyasis. We go to see her regularly in Lucknow.
I must add that I left everything connected with the mission of Chari in July 1986. For this mission no longer corresponds anymore with what Babuji had brought. Babuji has never asked for obedience in the Mission. Instead, he spoke of love, when love is there, the confidence is there. Blind obedience destroys the sense of discernment, which is essential in spirituality; discernment must accompany us at every moment along the way. Babuji has never asked for blind faith, and he always said to experiment and to see the changes in one's self.
It is understandable that many people find themselves despising the nature of Sahaj Marg (SRCM-California-1997) and unfortunately they end up rejecting it totally. The real Sahaj Marg is a path of divine light that should lead everyone towards Peace and beyond, despite all the difficulties of earthly life. But who gives peace? Search your heart and pray Babuji to bring you to him. But let's take "Babuji" in its broadest and unlimited sense ie in his Divine state of Reality.
Denise and I left France, but there are in France abhyasis and preceptors trained by Kasturi, practicing the system in simplicity, without any organization, but connected to Babuji and connected to Kasturi.
I hope with all my heart that you receive the blessings of Babuji and his grace.
Jean-François Mincet, a servant.
If you have any questions, please contact us at dmincet@gmail.com
PS I am not proselytizing, I hate that. I am simply trying to tetify to what my Master gave me, and which nobody in the world could have given me. But today, though disembodied, he may give just as much by transmission to those who have not met physically. Denise can attest to this.
Monday March 16, 07:26:00 AM
Thursday, March 12, 2009
Abhyasis Pray So As To Create A "favourable egregore", Chari!
Taken from Sahaj Sandesh: Sahaj Sandesh No: 2009.8 – Sunday, March 8, 2009
A "rush" e-mail from Chari
Email from Master about an important message received from Babuji Maharaj
Chennai, Sunday, March 8, 2009 8:22:39 PM
From: Parthasarathi Rajagopalachari
So abhyasis...you have a choice to make...
PS.
Read ex-SRCM (California-1997) Zonal-in-charge for the Netherlands, Frank Waldijk's blog: The Pitfalls of Spirituality.
See article: Obedience & Groupthink: the Sahaj Marg Example
A "rush" e-mail from Chari
Email from Master about an important message received from Babuji Maharaj
Chennai, Sunday, March 8, 2009 8:22:39 PM
From: Parthasarathi Rajagopalachari
I have just received the following message from my Master [in bold text below], and it is too important to wait for inclusion in Whispers-3.
Please send out in Sahaj Sandesh immediately. Love to all.
With Love and Master's Blessings,
Affectionately,
Parthasarathi
Affectionately,
Parthasarathi
"Tuesday, March 3, 2009 10:00 a.m.
The 9:00 p.m. prayer is neglected in our Mission by many abhyasis. It is important and should not be neglected like that. It is about a rallying point, and union between the hearts, on a vibratory level, where is created the favourable egregore, i.e. a subtle bond between practising abhyasis. This ritual is not to be neglected. Is this too much to ask for? It would be wise for all to become aware of it. A few moments of interiorization and convergence of thought can only serve our Mission, i.e. all our brothers and sisters who have decided to follow their divine Master. May the wise ones remember it, for the good of all.
- Babuji Maharaj."
EGREGORE: Egregore (also "egregor") is an occult concept representing a "thoughtform" or "collective group mind", an autonomous psychic entity made up of, and influencing, the thoughts of a group of people. The symbiotic relationship between an egregore and its group has been compared to the more recent, non-occult concepts of the corporation (as a legal entity) and the meme.
For other definitions (and warnings!) of "Egregore" from other "mystical" and "religious" traditions:
MEME: A meme (pronounced /miːm/ - like theme) is a unit or element of cultural ideas, symbols or practices; such units or elements transmit from one mind to another through speech, gestures, rituals, or other imitable phenomena. The etymology of the term relates to the Greek word mimema for mimic. Memes act as cultural analogues to genes in that they self-replicate and respond to selective pressures.
Who or WHAT is Chari Channeling? Where is the French Lady Medium? Is Chari taking over as the Medium now? Have we "pushed him" into "channeling" for himself? Does he know Who he is "channeling"? What SPIRIT? What "autonomous psychic entity" ?
Babuji warned: If you see his form or hear his words in "meditation" don't believe that it is him and remain focussed on the ULTIMATE. Do not get lured into the "POWERS". Is this where the "divisions", the schisms, the violence, the odd "emotional" behaviour, exhibited by many SRCM (California-1997) abhyasis is coming from? Chari claims that Babuji used the word: "egregore"? YEAH! Right! Want to buy a Bridge? lol... ;-)) (Chari is being "shrewd"...playing a game...he'll find a passage where the word "egregore" is attached to Babuji!! (or he'll make it up ... That magic "misdirection" should fool and convince the "sheep" that Babuji is really communicating with Chari!!) What a meditation "system", that is just like Raja Yoga! NOT.. NOT.. NOT...
(Notice above in the definitions, the "corporate connection" to "egregores" !! Babuji was a "bureaucrat", a court clerk. Chari is a retired "CEO" of a Plastics Tube Mill with TTK GROUP).
Is this "egregore" revealing what Michael ex-preceptor and ex-member of Chari's "Inner Circle of SRCM" said a few years ago. Michael said that Chari, like many pseudo-Gurus, was simply "re-processing" the energy of the GROUP and that no energy was necessarily coming from "OUTSIDE" or from the ULTIMATE? It seems that the "egregore", being "autonomous" is now "in control of the GROUP", and Chari thinks that the "egregore" is Babuji. It seems that the "Sahaj Marg Bible", the SHRUTIES (shrewdies?? ) will soon be written by the "egregore" (Groupthink), Chari, and the anonymous French lady medium and not by the FOUNDER and Master, Babuji in his writings (books) while he was really alive on this physical plane of existence. In other words, they will be making it up as they go along. Or then we will find that they also: "made off" with the credibility of Babuji's MISSION. We will have to wait and see if the "other SRCM's" will be able to recover from the "damage". (see my next article, coming in a few days: Is Chari Trying to destroy the MISSION?)
Do you agree with having children or the emotionally challenged perform Chari's spiritualism "rituals" and repeating these messages over and over (seven or eight times...) ? Even before knowing what the messages are? Is Sahaj Marg still a meditation "system" or is it now playing at spiritualism, with "collective group minds" and "occult autonomous entities"? Now Chari says that WHISPERS From The Brighter World, will be the Sahaj Marg BIBLE... How Religious!!
Where is Raja Yoga, the "eightfold" path NOW?
How very corporatist! and Spiritualist! ...Corporatism the correct term for Hitler's Fascism, or the mis-labelled Nazism.
When do you call it "Brainwashing" or "brain cleaning" or "brain manipulating".
So abhyasis...you have a choice to make...
You either get your wallet out and GIVE over and over again, every time the elite pulls your Memetic chain, or GET OUT of the corporate CULT of the "EGREGORE"! Don't Bail out these MASTERS of Disaster, or these spiritual capitalists anymore ... A fool and his/her money (and/or mind, soul, etc...) are soon parted!!
If you don't...
You will (you already do, to outsiders) eventually all sound the same, think the same, speak the same, sort of like "zombies", or "living deads" following your Master, like star-struck fans of movie and/or popular music idols. You will be, and you are now called on to lure others (including children) to serve and feed the IDOL of this "spiritualist" cult, with its many repetitive rituals of messages from the DEAD and from the "autonomous egregores". (Groupthink)
And then, once you are "living dead" enough, will you also violently attack any other group the "elite" directs you to attack, through "selective pressures", including your friends and family, simply to defend your Master or "grow the Business" (Mission)?
That is not Brotherhood ...
PS.
Read ex-SRCM (California-1997) Zonal-in-charge for the Netherlands, Frank Waldijk's blog: The Pitfalls of Spirituality.
See article: Obedience & Groupthink: the Sahaj Marg Example
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Wednesday, March 11, 2009
Clarification from SRCM (Shahjahanpur)
This is a comment I received to the article: Sahaj Marg (SRCM-California-1997) Now Exposed on Youtube!
4d-Don said:
This comment, is un-signed but I presume by the content that it comes from someone from the SRCM (Shahjahanpur), the original group Founded by Babuji in 1945 and presided by Navneet Kumar Saxena, grandson of Babuji. You decide! If I get a signature, (or a confirmation) I will add it to this Publication...
Thank you for the "clarifications" ...
CLARIFICATIONS
I had gone through the websites / discussions and the material which been placed in regard to the addressing of the Sahaj Marg System as cult. I want to clarify that this has wrongly been addressed as cult. The Sahaj Marg system is a very pious, holistic and peace loving system for the spiritual upliftment of the humanity at large propagating the feeling of Universal Brotherhood and Harmony. The system is a Rajayoga system based on the Prahauti system taken up by Mahatma Shri Ram Chandraji Maharaj of Fatehgarh alias Lalajai Maharaj and it has been modified and developed by Mahatma Shri Ram Chandraji Maharaj of Shahjahanpur alias Babuji Maharaj. The literature published and written by Babuji Maharaj shall clarify all the doubts which are in your and in the minds of the persons who have wrongly been following and have joined after 1983 i.e. the Mahasamadhi of Babuji Maharaj.
I would like to clarify one more point about the fight going on in a spiritual society Shri Ram Chandra Mission. It is pertinent to point out to the public at large that it is fight of Dharma and Adharama where on one side it is the parent society with its President Shri Navneet Kumar Saxena who is following the pious system on the guidelines, principles and procedures laid down by Mahatma Shri Ram Chandraji Maharaj alias Babuji Maharaj. The followers of Babuji Maharaj with its President Shri Navneet Kumar Saxena have been working on the established Byelaws of the society and the law of the country. On the other side it has been wrongly followed by the people represented by P. Rajagopalachari and others who have been following the changed system with a different prayer, different system and different method and against the Constitution of Shri Ram Chandra Mission and have been misleading the public at large. P. Rajagopalachari group has been following the system illegally and wrongly and against the Constitution, Byelaws of the society. I would like to mention here that the people who have been laying allegations against the Sahaj Marg system are the persons who were associated with the P. Rajagopalachari group. I would like to clarify that the people who have been writing against the Sahaj Marg system who have not followed the correct system given by Babuji Maharaj. As Babuji Maharaj says that the Master, Mission and Method are key for the following of the Sahaj Marg system. The people who have been writing against the Sahaj system have followed a different guru/Master, Different Mission and Different Method and these people have not tasted the real Sahaj Marg system till date.
I would like to clarify one more thing considering the pioneer case here that the said story published in the newspaper Pioneer in the year 2002 is a false story which was published with a malafide intention and motive to defame the Guru/Master Mahatma Shri Ram Chandraji Maharaj alias Babuji Maharaj, Mission and the Sahaj Marg system. The strict proof and evidence to the same is that the aggrieved person has herself given an Affidavit before the National Human Rights Commission for Women stating that all the allegations against the society, Master/Guru, Method were false and baseless. The statement given by her was given under coercion and influence to defame the society, guru/master, method. The said case has been closed by the National Human Rights Commission for Women after investigation and inquiry vide order dated 29.01.2003. Hence, such allegation and document relied upon are baseless, false and are defaming the society, Guru / Master and the Method and needs to be removed from the Website / discussions with immediate effect with a noting clarifying the reality to the public at large, if you are really fighting for Reality and really portraying reality to the public rather than misguiding..
I would like to clarify one more point that Shri Ram Chandra Mission is a spiritual society and it has nothing to do with the performing of marriages. It is pertinent to mention here that if any marriages are being performed by any person under the banner of the society, the society is not liable for the same since the society aims and objects do not provide for. In fact, in personam any person is liable who is performing the marriages and not the society.
I would further like to clarify that the Guru and Master Mahatma Shri Ram Chandraji Maharaj were always against the performing of rituals as they are hindrances in the upliftment of spiritual field.
I would like to mention that in your website / discussions you have wrongly addressed the prayer given by the almighty and no person has any right to speak of any of the aspect until he/she knows the exact version and meaning of any sermon/prayer enlightened by the almighty for the benefit of the humanity at large. The prayer is not devoid or against any Vedas, Upanishads and Hindu Philosophy. This is for the information of the public at large that there exist person who have done Doctorate in the field of Sahaj Marg and they have done also by being the part of the system and understanding till its depth. Further Shri Ram Chandra Mission and Sahaj Marg system never practises hypnotism among the people but it aims of spreading spirituality by a process of meditation.
I would like to clarify that Shri Ram Chandra Mission has been wrongly depicted by all person who have been raging against the society without having any knowledge about the working of the society Shri Ram Chandra Mission and the Practising of the system named as Sahaj Marg system in its original form and all the allegations in your Sites / discussions have been on the basis of the person who have wrongly propagated the Sahaj Marg system and the society its aims and objectives. The literature of the Founder President has clarified that What is a Transmission and How it can be felt? And in your website / discussions the said aspect has been wrongly understood and explained to the humanity at large which further needs to be rectified and corrected after proper experience with the original system, investigation and inquiry.
I would further like to clarify that the Founder President Mahatma Shri Ram Chandraji Maharaj alias Babuji Maharaj has clarified the concept of Guru in its literature Reality at Dawn by a separate chapter “GURU” published in the year 1956.
I would further clarify the aspect of Faith and the logic behind have been wrongly understood and propagated by your website / discussions who have been following a wrong Sahaj Marg System and not the Original Sahaj Marg system duly established and followed on the principles, guidelines and procedures laid down by Babuji Maharaj only. It is submitted that the said fruit of the Sahaj Marg system can be availed only if the system is being practised rightly like the people represented by its President Shri Navneet Kumar Saxena have been following.
I would further clarify that all the Warning in respect of Shri Ram Chandra Mission are absolutely frivolous, vexatious and wrong and are totally in violation to the established principles, guidelines and procedures laid down by Babuji Maharaj.
I would further like to clarify that the Do’s and Don’t mentioned in the website / discussions are purely imaginary and are personal in nature and has nothing to do with the society, its system Do’s and Don’t.
I would like to clarify that the video shows as to How to become a cult leader pertaining to the society Shri Ram Chandra Mission is not represented by its parent society Shri Ram Chandra Mission with its President Shri Navneet Kumar Saxena and Founder President Mahatma Shri Ram Chandraji Maharaj alias Babuji Maharaj to move and propagate the Sahaj Marg System in such manner and the said videos are purely personal and are being followed by some person who is not following the right system.
I would further like to clarify to humanity at large that the literature pertaining to Babuji Maharaj is purely original and it has nothing to do with any other society or preachers of spirituality.
I would clarify that the movement against the Sahaj Marg system is a humanely wrong one, if you are an ethical person. The movement should be only against the persons who have been wrongly representing the Sahaj Marg system and the system represented through P. Rajagopalachari, Kasturi Chaturvedi, K. C. Narayanan, Raghavendra Rao. Since all these groups formed are the breakaway of the main group with a grieve to become a Master to be known in the society.
I would further clarify that Mr Dinesh Kumar of Fethgarh has been following system which have no linkage with the society Shri Ram Chandra Mission.
DO NOT GO AGAINST THE SAHAJ MARG SYSTEM AND THE PARENT SOCIETY SHRI RAM CHANDRA MISSION SHAHJAHANPUR BUT GO AGAINST THOSE PERSONS WHO HAVE BEEN MISREPRESENTING AND MISLEADING THE PUBLIC AT LARGE WHO ACTUALLY ARE NOT FOLLOWING THE PARENT ORIGINAL SAHAJ MARG SYSTEM AND THE SOCIETY LAID DOWN BY BABUJI MAHARAJ.
4d-Don said:
This comment, is un-signed but I presume by the content that it comes from someone from the SRCM (Shahjahanpur), the original group Founded by Babuji in 1945 and presided by Navneet Kumar Saxena, grandson of Babuji. You decide! If I get a signature, (or a confirmation) I will add it to this Publication...
Thank you for the "clarifications" ...
CLARIFICATIONS
I had gone through the websites / discussions and the material which been placed in regard to the addressing of the Sahaj Marg System as cult. I want to clarify that this has wrongly been addressed as cult. The Sahaj Marg system is a very pious, holistic and peace loving system for the spiritual upliftment of the humanity at large propagating the feeling of Universal Brotherhood and Harmony. The system is a Rajayoga system based on the Prahauti system taken up by Mahatma Shri Ram Chandraji Maharaj of Fatehgarh alias Lalajai Maharaj and it has been modified and developed by Mahatma Shri Ram Chandraji Maharaj of Shahjahanpur alias Babuji Maharaj. The literature published and written by Babuji Maharaj shall clarify all the doubts which are in your and in the minds of the persons who have wrongly been following and have joined after 1983 i.e. the Mahasamadhi of Babuji Maharaj.
I would like to clarify one more point about the fight going on in a spiritual society Shri Ram Chandra Mission. It is pertinent to point out to the public at large that it is fight of Dharma and Adharama where on one side it is the parent society with its President Shri Navneet Kumar Saxena who is following the pious system on the guidelines, principles and procedures laid down by Mahatma Shri Ram Chandraji Maharaj alias Babuji Maharaj. The followers of Babuji Maharaj with its President Shri Navneet Kumar Saxena have been working on the established Byelaws of the society and the law of the country. On the other side it has been wrongly followed by the people represented by P. Rajagopalachari and others who have been following the changed system with a different prayer, different system and different method and against the Constitution of Shri Ram Chandra Mission and have been misleading the public at large. P. Rajagopalachari group has been following the system illegally and wrongly and against the Constitution, Byelaws of the society. I would like to mention here that the people who have been laying allegations against the Sahaj Marg system are the persons who were associated with the P. Rajagopalachari group. I would like to clarify that the people who have been writing against the Sahaj Marg system who have not followed the correct system given by Babuji Maharaj. As Babuji Maharaj says that the Master, Mission and Method are key for the following of the Sahaj Marg system. The people who have been writing against the Sahaj system have followed a different guru/Master, Different Mission and Different Method and these people have not tasted the real Sahaj Marg system till date.
I would like to clarify one more thing considering the pioneer case here that the said story published in the newspaper Pioneer in the year 2002 is a false story which was published with a malafide intention and motive to defame the Guru/Master Mahatma Shri Ram Chandraji Maharaj alias Babuji Maharaj, Mission and the Sahaj Marg system. The strict proof and evidence to the same is that the aggrieved person has herself given an Affidavit before the National Human Rights Commission for Women stating that all the allegations against the society, Master/Guru, Method were false and baseless. The statement given by her was given under coercion and influence to defame the society, guru/master, method. The said case has been closed by the National Human Rights Commission for Women after investigation and inquiry vide order dated 29.01.2003. Hence, such allegation and document relied upon are baseless, false and are defaming the society, Guru / Master and the Method and needs to be removed from the Website / discussions with immediate effect with a noting clarifying the reality to the public at large, if you are really fighting for Reality and really portraying reality to the public rather than misguiding..
I would like to clarify one more point that Shri Ram Chandra Mission is a spiritual society and it has nothing to do with the performing of marriages. It is pertinent to mention here that if any marriages are being performed by any person under the banner of the society, the society is not liable for the same since the society aims and objects do not provide for. In fact, in personam any person is liable who is performing the marriages and not the society.
I would further like to clarify that the Guru and Master Mahatma Shri Ram Chandraji Maharaj were always against the performing of rituals as they are hindrances in the upliftment of spiritual field.
I would like to mention that in your website / discussions you have wrongly addressed the prayer given by the almighty and no person has any right to speak of any of the aspect until he/she knows the exact version and meaning of any sermon/prayer enlightened by the almighty for the benefit of the humanity at large. The prayer is not devoid or against any Vedas, Upanishads and Hindu Philosophy. This is for the information of the public at large that there exist person who have done Doctorate in the field of Sahaj Marg and they have done also by being the part of the system and understanding till its depth. Further Shri Ram Chandra Mission and Sahaj Marg system never practises hypnotism among the people but it aims of spreading spirituality by a process of meditation.
I would like to clarify that Shri Ram Chandra Mission has been wrongly depicted by all person who have been raging against the society without having any knowledge about the working of the society Shri Ram Chandra Mission and the Practising of the system named as Sahaj Marg system in its original form and all the allegations in your Sites / discussions have been on the basis of the person who have wrongly propagated the Sahaj Marg system and the society its aims and objectives. The literature of the Founder President has clarified that What is a Transmission and How it can be felt? And in your website / discussions the said aspect has been wrongly understood and explained to the humanity at large which further needs to be rectified and corrected after proper experience with the original system, investigation and inquiry.
I would further like to clarify that the Founder President Mahatma Shri Ram Chandraji Maharaj alias Babuji Maharaj has clarified the concept of Guru in its literature Reality at Dawn by a separate chapter “GURU” published in the year 1956.
I would further clarify the aspect of Faith and the logic behind have been wrongly understood and propagated by your website / discussions who have been following a wrong Sahaj Marg System and not the Original Sahaj Marg system duly established and followed on the principles, guidelines and procedures laid down by Babuji Maharaj only. It is submitted that the said fruit of the Sahaj Marg system can be availed only if the system is being practised rightly like the people represented by its President Shri Navneet Kumar Saxena have been following.
I would further clarify that all the Warning in respect of Shri Ram Chandra Mission are absolutely frivolous, vexatious and wrong and are totally in violation to the established principles, guidelines and procedures laid down by Babuji Maharaj.
I would further like to clarify that the Do’s and Don’t mentioned in the website / discussions are purely imaginary and are personal in nature and has nothing to do with the society, its system Do’s and Don’t.
I would like to clarify that the video shows as to How to become a cult leader pertaining to the society Shri Ram Chandra Mission is not represented by its parent society Shri Ram Chandra Mission with its President Shri Navneet Kumar Saxena and Founder President Mahatma Shri Ram Chandraji Maharaj alias Babuji Maharaj to move and propagate the Sahaj Marg System in such manner and the said videos are purely personal and are being followed by some person who is not following the right system.
I would further like to clarify to humanity at large that the literature pertaining to Babuji Maharaj is purely original and it has nothing to do with any other society or preachers of spirituality.
I would clarify that the movement against the Sahaj Marg system is a humanely wrong one, if you are an ethical person. The movement should be only against the persons who have been wrongly representing the Sahaj Marg system and the system represented through P. Rajagopalachari, Kasturi Chaturvedi, K. C. Narayanan, Raghavendra Rao. Since all these groups formed are the breakaway of the main group with a grieve to become a Master to be known in the society.
I would further clarify that Mr Dinesh Kumar of Fethgarh has been following system which have no linkage with the society Shri Ram Chandra Mission.
DO NOT GO AGAINST THE SAHAJ MARG SYSTEM AND THE PARENT SOCIETY SHRI RAM CHANDRA MISSION SHAHJAHANPUR BUT GO AGAINST THOSE PERSONS WHO HAVE BEEN MISREPRESENTING AND MISLEADING THE PUBLIC AT LARGE WHO ACTUALLY ARE NOT FOLLOWING THE PARENT ORIGINAL SAHAJ MARG SYSTEM AND THE SOCIETY LAID DOWN BY BABUJI MAHARAJ.
Tuesday, March 10, 2009
Sahaj Marg! The SRCM(California-1997) Membership Statistics!
Taken from Alexis' Article: Effectifs: C'etait de l'intox... on Elodie's Blog in France: Pour Que Vive le Sahaj Marg.
The Membership: It was just the MEDICATION talking! ...
Since 2000, one hears everything and anything from Chari, from the SRCM(California-1997) and from others elsewhere. Chari started the ball rolling by claiming that in three short years, to have multiplied by three the SRCM (California-1997) membership in India. The SRCM (California-1997) continued by announcing a membership of 200 to 300,000 abhyasis, others have even mentioned the number 600,000. After all, when one is in excess, why limit oneself ...
In fact, nobody knows exactly where the society's membership is at. Chari, when he is honest with his lieutenants, must resolve to say only that the mission is present in a hundred countries, that it has around 2,600 preceptors with over 50,000 people attending the important ceremonies (bandharas) it organizes. That cannot be denied, but it does not really tells us much!
Fortunately, the more time passes, the more we learn about the mission and the less the intoxicating rumors initiated by Chari can hold for long. Latest example: the SRCM Center, Chennai, headquarters of the Chari Mission (SRCM California-1997). In 1998-99, there were 1,500 contributors and, after a major reorganization effort, it rose to 2,500 the following year with 65 preceptors. Today, it has reached 8,500 people registered and 92 preceptors, or a record of 30% per year, the number of contributors. Except that by the admission of the Mission itself, the abhyasis who regularly attend the Sunday satsangh at Manapakkam are not more than 2,500, or less than 30% of the registered contributors and hence, the need to introduce three people for one single membership attending Sunday satsangh ...
Let us agree on the definitions. For the SRCM, the number of regular practitioners of Sahaj Marg has been estimated in a worldwide census ordered by Chari, because he wanted to better understand the status of his troops. It corresponds to the number of people who attended the satsangh of Sunday April 30, 2008. The registered abhyasis are those who have contributed to the SRCM (California-1997) during the year, knowing that it is a mandatory for anyone who wishes to attend the important ceremonies of the Mission to be a registered member. Finally, people who have been introduced are those who have had the first three introductory sittings (initiation), no one knows if they continued their practice after their "intitiation". Basically, these abhyasis know roughly what the method of Sahaj Marg is and they constitute the "nebula" that revolves around the Mission, and therefore what I call a little lightly: "supporters".
Let us extrapolate to India with the data collected from the Chennai Center. With approximately 1,500 preceptors and at one preceptor for nearly 30 abhyasis, we would therefore get 40 to 45, 000 members, which represent themselves not quite 30% of the genereral contributors. That would mean 140 to 160,000 abhyasis, themselves three times less than those introduced (initiated). The nebula around Sahaj Marg (SRCM California-1997) therefore is 417 to 477,000 people in India.
In the rest of the world, things are somewhat different. And the number of contributors and the number of regular practicants are closer. As for "supporters", in France, they represent 25% of the membership. Extrapolating again. This gives us 10 to 12,000 regulars, 12 to 15,000 contributors and therefore 15 to 19,000 members, including "supporters".
Recapping! Globally, we would therefore have a "nebula" of just under 500,000 people who were introduced to Sahaj Marg (SRCM California-1997) in the world (from 430 to 500,000), with just over 150,000 subscribers (150 to 175,000) and 55,000 regulars practicants (50 to 60,000). But what is an abhyasi? Surely not all those who have been introduced to Sahaj Marg, otherwise I, myself, would be a member. Surely not all the contributors, including Indians, otherwise we would have to count among them those who pay their dues just to attend Chari's birthday party. But surely also, not only those identified at Sunday satsangh. The reality is somewhere between these two figures, between 50 and 175,000 abhyasis. The range is great, but these extrapolations are still much more refined and accurate than all the announcements affected by Chari. It is probably not far below 100,000 abhyasis. This is not so bad, but still far below what we've been led to believe ...
There remains the question of why this brainwashing? And destined for whom? A priori not the detractors! Rather probably for his troops to better galvanize them. Perhaps also for his competitors, including those in India, to better make them believe in his supremacy without sharing the nebula around Sahaj Marg ...
But from this nebula of about 500,000 people, how many have given up on this spiritual path and how many are now close to Kasturi, Navneet, Narayana or others? Chari truly does not keep watch! But do all the others?
Alexis
Addentdum by Alexis, Mar 12, 2009
Our dear SRCM France treasurer, who consults this blog regularly, found it useful to reassure her flock, and perhaps herself a little too ...
So, on March 4, 2009, the day of the publication by elodie of my comments on the contributions, she made the point that 50% of 2008 contributors have paid their 2009 dues. But she immediately called on the preceptors to relaunch their efforts, with new personal calls, such as "to the new members", insisting that to pay the contribution is to show interest in the Mission (and by the same token, in Chari). She also adds and confirms that those involved in local functions have paid their dues, which means that it is not always the case. Besides the old refrain of spreading the payment of the dues over the year, and the possible solutions available on a case by case basis for those experiencing financial difficulties.
In total, a sentence as a reminder of the rules already made. As for the rest of the message on the "relaunching of efforts to collect the contributions", evidence that things are not so obvious this year.
Besides that, there is no word on the part of the local and national split of the contributions, a subject too heated to be addressed at this time?
The Membership: It was just the MEDICATION talking! ...
Since 2000, one hears everything and anything from Chari, from the SRCM(California-1997) and from others elsewhere. Chari started the ball rolling by claiming that in three short years, to have multiplied by three the SRCM (California-1997) membership in India. The SRCM (California-1997) continued by announcing a membership of 200 to 300,000 abhyasis, others have even mentioned the number 600,000. After all, when one is in excess, why limit oneself ...
In fact, nobody knows exactly where the society's membership is at. Chari, when he is honest with his lieutenants, must resolve to say only that the mission is present in a hundred countries, that it has around 2,600 preceptors with over 50,000 people attending the important ceremonies (bandharas) it organizes. That cannot be denied, but it does not really tells us much!
Fortunately, the more time passes, the more we learn about the mission and the less the intoxicating rumors initiated by Chari can hold for long. Latest example: the SRCM Center, Chennai, headquarters of the Chari Mission (SRCM California-1997). In 1998-99, there were 1,500 contributors and, after a major reorganization effort, it rose to 2,500 the following year with 65 preceptors. Today, it has reached 8,500 people registered and 92 preceptors, or a record of 30% per year, the number of contributors. Except that by the admission of the Mission itself, the abhyasis who regularly attend the Sunday satsangh at Manapakkam are not more than 2,500, or less than 30% of the registered contributors and hence, the need to introduce three people for one single membership attending Sunday satsangh ...
Let us agree on the definitions. For the SRCM, the number of regular practitioners of Sahaj Marg has been estimated in a worldwide census ordered by Chari, because he wanted to better understand the status of his troops. It corresponds to the number of people who attended the satsangh of Sunday April 30, 2008. The registered abhyasis are those who have contributed to the SRCM (California-1997) during the year, knowing that it is a mandatory for anyone who wishes to attend the important ceremonies of the Mission to be a registered member. Finally, people who have been introduced are those who have had the first three introductory sittings (initiation), no one knows if they continued their practice after their "intitiation". Basically, these abhyasis know roughly what the method of Sahaj Marg is and they constitute the "nebula" that revolves around the Mission, and therefore what I call a little lightly: "supporters".
Let us extrapolate to India with the data collected from the Chennai Center. With approximately 1,500 preceptors and at one preceptor for nearly 30 abhyasis, we would therefore get 40 to 45, 000 members, which represent themselves not quite 30% of the genereral contributors. That would mean 140 to 160,000 abhyasis, themselves three times less than those introduced (initiated). The nebula around Sahaj Marg (SRCM California-1997) therefore is 417 to 477,000 people in India.
In the rest of the world, things are somewhat different. And the number of contributors and the number of regular practicants are closer. As for "supporters", in France, they represent 25% of the membership. Extrapolating again. This gives us 10 to 12,000 regulars, 12 to 15,000 contributors and therefore 15 to 19,000 members, including "supporters".
Recapping! Globally, we would therefore have a "nebula" of just under 500,000 people who were introduced to Sahaj Marg (SRCM California-1997) in the world (from 430 to 500,000), with just over 150,000 subscribers (150 to 175,000) and 55,000 regulars practicants (50 to 60,000). But what is an abhyasi? Surely not all those who have been introduced to Sahaj Marg, otherwise I, myself, would be a member. Surely not all the contributors, including Indians, otherwise we would have to count among them those who pay their dues just to attend Chari's birthday party. But surely also, not only those identified at Sunday satsangh. The reality is somewhere between these two figures, between 50 and 175,000 abhyasis. The range is great, but these extrapolations are still much more refined and accurate than all the announcements affected by Chari. It is probably not far below 100,000 abhyasis. This is not so bad, but still far below what we've been led to believe ...
There remains the question of why this brainwashing? And destined for whom? A priori not the detractors! Rather probably for his troops to better galvanize them. Perhaps also for his competitors, including those in India, to better make them believe in his supremacy without sharing the nebula around Sahaj Marg ...
But from this nebula of about 500,000 people, how many have given up on this spiritual path and how many are now close to Kasturi, Navneet, Narayana or others? Chari truly does not keep watch! But do all the others?
Alexis
Addentdum by Alexis, Mar 12, 2009
Our dear SRCM France treasurer, who consults this blog regularly, found it useful to reassure her flock, and perhaps herself a little too ...
So, on March 4, 2009, the day of the publication by elodie of my comments on the contributions, she made the point that 50% of 2008 contributors have paid their 2009 dues. But she immediately called on the preceptors to relaunch their efforts, with new personal calls, such as "to the new members", insisting that to pay the contribution is to show interest in the Mission (and by the same token, in Chari). She also adds and confirms that those involved in local functions have paid their dues, which means that it is not always the case. Besides the old refrain of spreading the payment of the dues over the year, and the possible solutions available on a case by case basis for those experiencing financial difficulties.
In total, a sentence as a reminder of the rules already made. As for the rest of the message on the "relaunching of efforts to collect the contributions", evidence that things are not so obvious this year.
Besides that, there is no word on the part of the local and national split of the contributions, a subject too heated to be addressed at this time?
Saturday, March 07, 2009
Sahaj Marg (SRCM California-1997) Now Exposed on Youtube!
Sahaj Marg Now Exposed: Taken (and edited) from Shashwat's Community on ORKUT: Freedom From SRCM-Sahaj Marg (for original article: go to the link above or "here")
PS... Soon, transcripts of these interviews will be published here...See comments for "clarifications" from an "anonymous", but seems to be from SRCM (Shahjahanpur).
or see article: Clarifications from SRCM (Shahjahanpur)
Those who claim that Sahaj Marg is a spiritual system must rethink their approach...
The (alleged) truth (according to SRCM - Shahjahanpur, and the Family of the Founder) about Sahaj Marg and SRCM(California-1997) is now out on Youtube....
See and hear on Youtube (some in English...some in Hindi)
http://www.youtube.com/user/exposingsahajmarg
Here Amreesh Saxena, (caretaker of Babuji Memorial Ashram) who was brutally beaten up by people following P. Rajagopalachari, explains how spiritual this representative of God on earth really is ...
Puneet Saxena (Grandson of the Founder, Ram Chandra Saxena (Babuji) legal adviser for SRCM (Shahjahanpur), explains how cunning and how manipulative this representative of God and most lovable person for these brainwashed cult members really is ... Puneet also explains his strategy as to how he has managed to fool people, the courts and the public at large for more than 25 years ...
All the truth about Sahaj Marg which was deliberately kept hidden from the members is now presented for public viewing... now I leave the stage and allow people to decide for themselves as to what an association with a gang like Sahaj Marg (SRCM California-1997) will bring to their lives!
NOW...
This, in their own words, is what this "gang" has brought to the family of the founder and to the legacy of Sahaj Marg and the Shri Ram Chandra Mission.
From Spirituality to Spiritualism and messages from the spirits of the "dead" to be repeated (seven or eight times...) so as to "erase samskaras"!
From Brotherhood to Charlatan-ism, Pyramid Schemes and "spiritual capitalism"!
And NOW we will see the REAL moral corruption (violence and ?? ) !!
Will the "children" at the Lalaji Omega Memorial School also be taught to repeat these Spiritualist Messages from unknown SPIRITS, over and over and "not use their brain". Will the parents be "assured" that this "brainwashing" is not used by un-filtered "deviant Brothers and Sisters" who, untrained in "spiritualism" and dealing with unknown "spirits" and "powers", as is now known of the "catholic" boarding school scandals, will not know how to deal with the children's "adulation", just like Chari who, like a corrupt dictator, (Mugabe, in Zimbabwe, Nero in ancient Rome, Pope Leo X, etc..) uses his power, to "have birthday parties" while the world teethers on the brink of financial and political destruction.
POWER CORRUPTS!! Heed Babuji' s warning. Sahaj Marg is not meant for those under 18 yrs old. Do not endanger the Children when dealing and playing with Spirits and "SPIRITUALISM" channeled by anonymous Mediums.
Will the money raised from the sale of "Whispers from the Brighter World 2" be used to profiteer from the misery of the workers of the world who have been subjected to bank "foreclosures" on their properties because of the currrent "financial crisis". Spiritual people would not do that!! Would they? They would help out, right? You watch!!
Heads up! Preceptors, you could be asked to sign on the dotted line and have your name as the "guarantor" for SRCM (California-1997) real estate deals. "Don't use your Brain, read with your heart, Trust us ..." Does it not "ring an alarm bell?? Beware of real estate "scams" and/or "profiteering" from the misery of others, in the name of "RELIGION" or "spirituality". You will not have a "moral" nor a "legal" leg to stand on, in the event that you should "lose your money".
One example of degradation of the Teachings of the Sahaj Marg of Babuji (or any other MASTER worth his/her salt)
This "fear mechanism" and manipulation so as to sell a "book" and to raise funds as a "bail-out package", is totally counter to what Babuji, the Founder of Sahaj Marg taught: (see Chari's Speech: Read From Your Heart, on 2nd February, 2009 at Satkhol, India.
SRCM-California-1997 seems to be desperate and in "financial" crisis mode, and are resorting to "religious" tactics of "fear and temptation" (read the comments to this article also...) that they accuse other religions of using, thus showing their "corruption" and hypocrisy ...
CHECK the financial "BOOKS" regularly, you who still "donate" for "birthday parties (orgies)", court and legal fees, and travelling expenses for the ELITE of the "inner circle" !!
So I would take this opportunity of imploring you all to read these messages again and again. Read it with, you know, an open heart so that the meaning goes into you direct into the heart without going through the brain. We have to bypass the brain if you are going to be a spiritual person seriously interested in your evolution. Anything that you subject to your brain for evaluation will only doom you to further slavery. I hope you will take this last warning of mine to heart - put away your head completely. Read with your heart. "No, no, how can I read with my heart?" Try it and you will be amazed at what the heart can find, which your brain never told you exists. I pray for you all.
PS... Soon, transcripts of these interviews will be published here...See comments for "clarifications" from an "anonymous", but seems to be from SRCM (Shahjahanpur).
or see article: Clarifications from SRCM (Shahjahanpur)
Those who claim that Sahaj Marg is a spiritual system must rethink their approach...
The (alleged) truth (according to SRCM - Shahjahanpur, and the Family of the Founder) about Sahaj Marg and SRCM(California-1997) is now out on Youtube....
See and hear on Youtube (some in English...some in Hindi)
http://www.youtube.com/user/exposingsah
Here Amreesh Saxena, (caretaker of Babuji Memorial Ashram) who was brutally beaten up by people following P. Rajagopalachari, explains how spiritual this representative of God on earth really is ...
Puneet Saxena (Grandson of the Founder, Ram Chandra Saxena (Babuji) legal adviser for SRCM (Shahjahanpur), explains how cunning and how manipulative this representative of God and most lovable person for these brainwashed cult members really is ... Puneet also explains his strategy as to how he has managed to fool people, the courts and the public at large for more than 25 years ...
All the truth about Sahaj Marg which was deliberately kept hidden from the members is now presented for public viewing... now I leave the stage and allow people to decide for themselves as to what an association with a gang like Sahaj Marg (SRCM California-1997) will bring to their lives!
NOW...
This, in their own words, is what this "gang" has brought to the family of the founder and to the legacy of Sahaj Marg and the Shri Ram Chandra Mission.
From Spirituality to Spiritualism and messages from the spirits of the "dead" to be repeated (seven or eight times...) so as to "erase samskaras"!
From Brotherhood to Charlatan-ism, Pyramid Schemes and "spiritual capitalism"!
And NOW we will see the REAL moral corruption (violence and ?? ) !!
Will the "children" at the Lalaji Omega Memorial School also be taught to repeat these Spiritualist Messages from unknown SPIRITS, over and over and "not use their brain". Will the parents be "assured" that this "brainwashing" is not used by un-filtered "deviant Brothers and Sisters" who, untrained in "spiritualism" and dealing with unknown "spirits" and "powers", as is now known of the "catholic" boarding school scandals, will not know how to deal with the children's "adulation", just like Chari who, like a corrupt dictator, (Mugabe, in Zimbabwe, Nero in ancient Rome, Pope Leo X, etc..) uses his power, to "have birthday parties" while the world teethers on the brink of financial and political destruction.
POWER CORRUPTS!! Heed Babuji' s warning. Sahaj Marg is not meant for those under 18 yrs old. Do not endanger the Children when dealing and playing with Spirits and "SPIRITUALISM" channeled by anonymous Mediums.
Will the money raised from the sale of "Whispers from the Brighter World 2" be used to profiteer from the misery of the workers of the world who have been subjected to bank "foreclosures" on their properties because of the currrent "financial crisis". Spiritual people would not do that!! Would they? They would help out, right? You watch!!
Heads up! Preceptors, you could be asked to sign on the dotted line and have your name as the "guarantor" for SRCM (California-1997) real estate deals. "Don't use your Brain, read with your heart, Trust us ..." Does it not "ring an alarm bell?? Beware of real estate "scams" and/or "profiteering" from the misery of others, in the name of "RELIGION" or "spirituality". You will not have a "moral" nor a "legal" leg to stand on, in the event that you should "lose your money".
One example of degradation of the Teachings of the Sahaj Marg of Babuji (or any other MASTER worth his/her salt)
This "fear mechanism" and manipulation so as to sell a "book" and to raise funds as a "bail-out package", is totally counter to what Babuji, the Founder of Sahaj Marg taught: (see Chari's Speech: Read From Your Heart, on 2nd February, 2009 at Satkhol, India.
SRCM-California-1997 seems to be desperate and in "financial" crisis mode, and are resorting to "religious" tactics of "fear and temptation" (read the comments to this article also...) that they accuse other religions of using, thus showing their "corruption" and hypocrisy ...
CHECK the financial "BOOKS" regularly, you who still "donate" for "birthday parties (orgies)", court and legal fees, and travelling expenses for the ELITE of the "inner circle" !!
So I would take this opportunity of imploring you all to read these messages again and again. Read it with, you know, an open heart so that the meaning goes into you direct into the heart without going through the brain. We have to bypass the brain if you are going to be a spiritual person seriously interested in your evolution. Anything that you subject to your brain for evaluation will only doom you to further slavery. I hope you will take this last warning of mine to heart - put away your head completely. Read with your heart. "No, no, how can I read with my heart?" Try it and you will be amazed at what the heart can find, which your brain never told you exists. I pray for you all.
Monday, March 02, 2009
Sahaj Marg and SRCM's Entelechy! (Aristotle)
Presented as a "Heads up!!" to those inside Sahaj Marg and in the Shri Ram Chandra Mission(s), (zonal-in-charge(s), prefects, preceptors, abhyasis, etc...) who are feeling "emotional" (angry, depressed, sad, betrayed, deserted, etc...) ... and who may be seeking for answers in the many "alternate therapies" that use religions and "spiritual movements", churches, ashrams, social worker's offices, mental health clinics, etc... as their "hunting grounds" ...
Use your Intellect (Head, Brain) and get out of "Emotions" (Heart? No !! Just not using the "Brain" effectively)
Here is what Aristotle (384 BC – 322 BC) the Greek philosopher said about "entelechies":
From "Entelechy":
An individual's life can in many ways be regarded as beholden to various simultaneous and overlapping entelechies, for example, the life trajectories imposed by the biological limitations, our mortality, the norms and expectations of family and/or society, and the individual's ego-ideal. Externally imposed entelechies and fantasized but unrealized entelechies can both be sources of frustration.
Societies can also be said to embody entelechies in their cultures; religious views, collective senses of entitlement, "mission" or "mandate" and even in their very languages. Societies/cultures sensing that their entelechial trajectory is reaching its terminus (i.e., sensing they are in decline) or that this trajectory has been deflected from its "proper" path by illegitimate forces - either internal or external - may exhibit violently irrational or even self-destructive reactions.
Author's comments:
Since in SRCM and Sahaj Marg, "Intellect" has been vilified, demonized and hence neutralized by the SRCM Guru, you will either have to re-activate it so as to gain control of your "emotions" again, or find a truly "balanced" spiritual path such as 'bhuddhism" so as to control the emotions and lessen it's effects in your life.
To practice SPIRITUALISM, and to "Brainwash" yourself with the messages of "the un-named SPIRIT ???", through "repetition" (seven or eight times...) of the messages so as to attain the imaginary goal of erasing one's samskaras, is simply a "con-game" and a dangerous one. It will only make one more "emotional" ... This is a "violently irrational and even self-destructive reactions", that Aristotle warned about. SRCM destroys "intellect" and REASON, along with the LOVE that Chari agrees is destroyed by the "PRECEPTORS". (see Chari's speech to Preceptors , Jan 16-17, 2001- see "On other religions" )
SPIRITUALITY (if it was a person) WOULD SAY:
We are Humans BEING ... Not Humans DOING! You are already "SAVED"... Just LIBERATE (Free) yourself and BE GRATEFUL, and BE content to BE ... "ALIVE" !
Sunday, March 01, 2009
NOW Available! The "all Natural" and "Easy" SAHAJ OUIJA BOARD!
Order now while supplies last, or "God help you"!
LIMITED TIME OFFER... You will not be able to buy this GREAT ALL NATURAL and EASY "Sahaj OUIJA Board" for a "billion crore" after this offer expires....
The "all new" Natural and Easy Sahaj Ouija Board, that is made from Natural Wood that Babuji has touched, and blown the "smoke from his hookah" on, will allow you to communicate directly with, and/or get your own messages from Babuji and Lalaji for absolutely free, without the need of a FRENCH "Anonymous" Lady MEDIUM or any other cult leader or preceptor. No more paying for MESSAGES FROM THE DEAD in SPIRITUALIST Pyramid schemes and/or fantasies and stories that never end, a la "Robert Jordan" or "harlequin romance" ...
Just think of the money you'll save!! No need to travel to meditate anymore, thus reducing your travel and your "carbon footprint"... Mother EARTH will thank you in the name of the "CHILDREN"
START your own cult NOW!! Be adored by your "SERFS". Travel around the WORLD for FREE! GET money from the "unlimited" wallets of your desire-driven and Liberation-addicted "fans". Have millions celebrate your "BIRTHDAYS" and send you GIFTS.
We guarantee that only Babuji and Lalaji (or their pseudo- SPIRITS which are allegedly now "trapped" and dwelling in Chari's Brighter World-(one of the "heavens"), by "desire", unable to "communicate" with all, or to go further than "light", "sound", "thought", or "Brighter") will now be able to communicate directly with you with our "all new" and Natural "Sahaj Ouija Board". The other "spirits" will not be able to send messages using the Sahaj OUIJA Board, as the "password" is protected and registered as a trade-marked and a "secret" code that contains Babuji's Magic Ring (see below) with nine planets, which allegedly and opportunistically ended up on Chari's sticky fingers when Babuji passed away (1983).
There have been rumours that the "Magical ring" is now useless or "divisive", since the planet Pluto (for the Greek god of the "underworld) is not a planet anymore. (Pluto, the planet was named: 1930-Pluto, is demoted to "planetissimal" or, has a title-change: 2006) a span of 76 years= 13=4).
We are working on "modifying" a copy of Babuji's Magic Ring to only have "8 planets" (4 planets of crystal + 4 planets of gas)". (Sahaj Marg would then be a modified and usurped "eightfold" Raja Yoga, starting at step 7 (so, very "easy"), with a "modified, usurped and "forged" ring" ... It's BEAUTIFUL and GUARANTEED to work well for you or your family ... we guarantee no "divisions in your family", as with the current Babuji Magic Ring and the channeled messages from "GOD KNOWS WHO", but which seem to "DIVIDE") ...
The template of Babuji Magic Ring is now in the hands of our technical "Spiritualist engineers" (exorcists and esoteric numerological "coders") and the "all new" and Natural Sahaj Ouija Board, with the secret ring modification and secret password with code, will be available soon for a small donation ($250.00 US) . For an extra "donation" of $500.00 US, you can receive a "forged but more opulent" copy of Babuji's Magic Ring and start you own cult in your country. Plus, you can use Lalaji's or Babuji's name as your "FOUNDER"! (This has not been cleared by Lalaji's or Babuji's other groups yet, but it should present no problem. Lalaji and Babuji have authorized it in "a channeled message" to our anonymous MEDIUM). The Babuji Magic Ring will make your LIES sound TRUE...GUARANTEED or your MONEY BACK!! (credited as a "future" in your next life's "karma bank", or in the Afterlife in a "much more Brighter World"!! (Watch for future messages from SPIRITS in the "Brighter World 2", coming soon... and available for a small fee... OOPS... "donation" or "GOD HELP YOU"...)
You can have "adoring fans" within a few weeks or months. You can start planning your "retreat (retirement) center" in Dubai or on the resort island of Mauritius. Think of the "EGOLESS" and "HUMBLE" navel-gazing orgies, birthday parties, etc and the good this will do for the WORLD and specially for Tourism.
Predict all DISASTERS, such as Floods (at Ashrams), Earthquakes, violence, wars, even the End of the World, and more ... You can even, if you so desire with a desireless desire, (invertendo) "destroy part of the COSMOS", using your "all new" Magical Ring (after December 21, 2012 only) ...
You can register your group at the United Nations Department of Public Information, (UN DPI) as they accept anyone, and everyone will then believe your "proof" that you are truly "SPIRITUAL" and selling "GOD" and the "Brotherhood of MAN". The "forged but more opulent" Babuji Magic Ring will bring you "unlimited POWER" that does not corrupt as other "Jewels and Gems" have done for other RELIGIONS.
THINK WITH YOUR HEART (If you have to think about this, you are not a "good disciple"... get your family involved with our group (ALL for FREE) ... get the children of your friends and family involved with "stories and fairy tales" ... (ALL for FREE)
SEND YOUR ORDERS NOW... SEND YOUR ORDERS NOW... SEND YOUR ORDERS NOW...
SEND CASH... SEND CASH ... SEND CASH ... (no cheques... no paper trails...no taxes)
or... GOD HELP YOU!!!
**PS... you will know that the messages are really from Babuji or Lalaji (or their SPIRIT) as they will always praise Chari!!
"OUIJA" is all POSITIVE, no negatives ... very SPIRITUAL
OUI= YES in Spiritual French
JA = Yes in Spiritual German
For a short history and warnings about "Ouija Boards", and communicating with the spirits of the DEAD, and/or becoming the "LIVING DEAD", and Baubji's Magic RING see:
All About the Occult
FOR INFORMATION about Babuji's RING, SEE these SITES. Taken from:
Tell me Truth India Site: (in the comments... see dates of copies of messages below)
and from: Shri Ram Chandra Mission, Babuji
at archived or Cached:
http://74.125.95.132/search?q=cache:YF_S3M6MbvMJ:srcmshahjahanpur.blogspot.com/+Sahaj+marg+babuji%27s+ring&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=31&gl=ca&client=firefox-a
or at these messages:
Google "Babuji's ring nine planets three rows" or other "secret or magic codes" (3: 3: 3:, etc...) in your search and the "spririts will GUIDE YOU"
March 4, 2007 6:12 PM
Anonymous said...
Dear Navneet,
Do you know under what circumstances Shri Parthasarathi Rajagopalachari obtained the ring (which had several different stones) which Babuji customarily wore?
Thank you. J.
March 4, 2007 10:44 PM
Navneet said...
Dear J I don't know. But I just know one thing that the rings which Babuji wore were all distributed amongst his sons not Chari. Iwas present in Shahjahanpur when Babuji's Trunk & Box was opened. It doesn't deter from the fact above.
RegardsNavneet
March 5, 2007 10:37 AM
LIMITED TIME OFFER... You will not be able to buy this GREAT ALL NATURAL and EASY "Sahaj OUIJA Board" for a "billion crore" after this offer expires....
The "all new" Natural and Easy Sahaj Ouija Board, that is made from Natural Wood that Babuji has touched, and blown the "smoke from his hookah" on, will allow you to communicate directly with, and/or get your own messages from Babuji and Lalaji for absolutely free, without the need of a FRENCH "Anonymous" Lady MEDIUM or any other cult leader or preceptor. No more paying for MESSAGES FROM THE DEAD in SPIRITUALIST Pyramid schemes and/or fantasies and stories that never end, a la "Robert Jordan" or "harlequin romance" ...
Just think of the money you'll save!! No need to travel to meditate anymore, thus reducing your travel and your "carbon footprint"... Mother EARTH will thank you in the name of the "CHILDREN"
START your own cult NOW!! Be adored by your "SERFS". Travel around the WORLD for FREE! GET money from the "unlimited" wallets of your desire-driven and Liberation-addicted "fans". Have millions celebrate your "BIRTHDAYS" and send you GIFTS.
We guarantee that only Babuji and Lalaji (or their pseudo- SPIRITS which are allegedly now "trapped" and dwelling in Chari's Brighter World-(one of the "heavens"), by "desire", unable to "communicate" with all, or to go further than "light", "sound", "thought", or "Brighter") will now be able to communicate directly with you with our "all new" and Natural "Sahaj Ouija Board". The other "spirits" will not be able to send messages using the Sahaj OUIJA Board, as the "password" is protected and registered as a trade-marked and a "secret" code that contains Babuji's Magic Ring (see below) with nine planets, which allegedly and opportunistically ended up on Chari's sticky fingers when Babuji passed away (1983).
There have been rumours that the "Magical ring" is now useless or "divisive", since the planet Pluto (for the Greek god of the "underworld) is not a planet anymore. (Pluto, the planet was named: 1930-Pluto, is demoted to "planetissimal" or, has a title-change: 2006) a span of 76 years= 13=4).
We are working on "modifying" a copy of Babuji's Magic Ring to only have "8 planets" (4 planets of crystal + 4 planets of gas)". (Sahaj Marg would then be a modified and usurped "eightfold" Raja Yoga, starting at step 7 (so, very "easy"), with a "modified, usurped and "forged" ring" ... It's BEAUTIFUL and GUARANTEED to work well for you or your family ... we guarantee no "divisions in your family", as with the current Babuji Magic Ring and the channeled messages from "GOD KNOWS WHO", but which seem to "DIVIDE") ...
The template of Babuji Magic Ring is now in the hands of our technical "Spiritualist engineers" (exorcists and esoteric numerological "coders") and the "all new" and Natural Sahaj Ouija Board, with the secret ring modification and secret password with code, will be available soon for a small donation ($250.00 US) . For an extra "donation" of $500.00 US, you can receive a "forged but more opulent" copy of Babuji's Magic Ring and start you own cult in your country. Plus, you can use Lalaji's or Babuji's name as your "FOUNDER"! (This has not been cleared by Lalaji's or Babuji's other groups yet, but it should present no problem. Lalaji and Babuji have authorized it in "a channeled message" to our anonymous MEDIUM). The Babuji Magic Ring will make your LIES sound TRUE...GUARANTEED or your MONEY BACK!! (credited as a "future" in your next life's "karma bank", or in the Afterlife in a "much more Brighter World"!! (Watch for future messages from SPIRITS in the "Brighter World 2", coming soon... and available for a small fee... OOPS... "donation" or "GOD HELP YOU"...)
You can have "adoring fans" within a few weeks or months. You can start planning your "retreat (retirement) center" in Dubai or on the resort island of Mauritius. Think of the "EGOLESS" and "HUMBLE" navel-gazing orgies, birthday parties, etc and the good this will do for the WORLD and specially for Tourism.
Predict all DISASTERS, such as Floods (at Ashrams), Earthquakes, violence, wars, even the End of the World, and more ... You can even, if you so desire with a desireless desire, (invertendo) "destroy part of the COSMOS", using your "all new" Magical Ring (after December 21, 2012 only) ...
You can register your group at the United Nations Department of Public Information, (UN DPI) as they accept anyone, and everyone will then believe your "proof" that you are truly "SPIRITUAL" and selling "GOD" and the "Brotherhood of MAN". The "forged but more opulent" Babuji Magic Ring will bring you "unlimited POWER" that does not corrupt as other "Jewels and Gems" have done for other RELIGIONS.
THINK WITH YOUR HEART (If you have to think about this, you are not a "good disciple"... get your family involved with our group (ALL for FREE) ... get the children of your friends and family involved with "stories and fairy tales" ... (ALL for FREE)
SEND YOUR ORDERS NOW... SEND YOUR ORDERS NOW... SEND YOUR ORDERS NOW...
SEND CASH... SEND CASH ... SEND CASH ... (no cheques... no paper trails...no taxes)
or... GOD HELP YOU!!!
**PS... you will know that the messages are really from Babuji or Lalaji (or their SPIRIT) as they will always praise Chari!!
"OUIJA" is all POSITIVE, no negatives ... very SPIRITUAL
OUI= YES in Spiritual French
JA = Yes in Spiritual German
For a short history and warnings about "Ouija Boards", and communicating with the spirits of the DEAD, and/or becoming the "LIVING DEAD", and Baubji's Magic RING see:
All About the Occult
FOR INFORMATION about Babuji's RING, SEE these SITES. Taken from:
Tell me Truth India Site: (in the comments... see dates of copies of messages below)
and from: Shri Ram Chandra Mission, Babuji
at archived or Cached:
http://74.125.95.132/search?q=cache:YF_S3M6MbvMJ:srcmshahjahanpur.blogspot.com/+Sahaj+marg+babuji%27s+ring&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=31&gl=ca&client=firefox-a
or at these messages:
Google "Babuji's ring nine planets three rows" or other "secret or magic codes" (3: 3: 3:, etc...) in your search and the "spririts will GUIDE YOU"
March 4, 2007 6:12 PM
Anonymous said...
Dear Navneet,
Do you know under what circumstances Shri Parthasarathi Rajagopalachari obtained the ring (which had several different stones) which Babuji customarily wore?
Thank you. J.
March 4, 2007 10:44 PM
Navneet said...
Dear J I don't know. But I just know one thing that the rings which Babuji wore were all distributed amongst his sons not Chari. Iwas present in Shahjahanpur when Babuji's Trunk & Box was opened. It doesn't deter from the fact above.
RegardsNavneet
March 5, 2007 10:37 AM
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Hi J & Navneet Kumar
RE LETTER FROM J MARCH 4 @10.44
Babuji had a ring of square design with I think 9 different stones in a pattern of 3:3:3. I had been told about this by some friends of his & mine as it was interesting. It seems it may have had some astrological meaning where each stone represented a different planet & its meaning & influence. I understood that this also had some place in Indian medicine & gemology, with each stone considered to have a different resonance or "vibration". Think someone may have given it to Babuji. I too saw Babuji wearing this ring.
Later on I saw Chari wearing a similar ring & asked him if this was the same ring that Babuji had worn. He said "Yes" that it was & that he had "taken" (his word)it from Babuji (This was I think around the time of Babujis death). I remember I was surpised at the time - that he said he had "taken" the ring not that Babuji had "given" it to him. Can you clarify this Navneet? Was Chari with Babuji when he died?
Sincerely Aurelius.
Hi Aurelius...
Interesting the "astrology" aspect:
You mention:
Babuji had a ring of square design with I think 9 different stones in a pattern of 3:3:3. I had been told about this by some friends of his & mine as it was interesting. It seems it may have had some astrological meaning where each stone represented a different planet & its meaning & influence.
For those of us who, having worked towards and supported the banishment of Pluto, as a planet and to return (metaphysically) Pluto to its traditional realm, the "underworld" could have un-knowingly made Babuji's ring (and other such symbols of power) "bogus" (or taken it's power away) with its nine (3x3) gemstones in a "square grid", the realm of the "material".
The resurgence of Pluto (1930's, as SRCM was being "incubated"), from which we named "plutonium" and its gift to mankind of "nuclear weaponry" and then placed it (PLUTO) into our cosmology as the "ninth planet" is now being dealt with as Pluto is being "kicked out" of the Solar System for a return to the more spiritual octave (8) of planets, 4 of matter and 4 of gas.
Expose the ring that was "taken"!! It could be the source of the "philosophical" and theological corruption (by empowering the working of "imagination" or the id) in SRCMtm.
The Cube with its tendency to become "dogmatic" must at this time transition to the OCTAGON (Octave) and eventually to the sphere and the "spiral" for a physical symbol or template of the representation of the Galactic Consciousness of (UNITY) that we all seek through our "spirituality".
In the spiral, there are no closed borders defining the In's and Out's as anyone or anything can go into the spiral and be nurtured and freely leave the spiral un-hindered. (see a 3d spiral)
When Raja Yoga, the eightfold (octave) path becomes the "trinity" of 3M's (Master, Mission, Method), one does not have to wonder any further where the "influence" or "direction" is coming from...the template is "regressive".
We (as a species) evolved to comprehending a 3d reality through our interpreting (in the brain) of "perspectives". The "magic" of the 5d and 6d (five or 6 pointed stars and/or 5 (pentagon) or 6 (hexagon) sided figures in symboloby (flags) has been used by many nationalist power blocks in many cultures for centuries and even millenia. But that is for directored or vectored "material" power, and not for the un-vectored or scalar "energy" of spirituality
We see the Octave in the architecture of the Taj Mahal. Christ represented our (abused and mis-used) western depiction of the 7d as the LOVE ONE ANOTHER message of the "snake eating its tail" or the Messiah coming back from the "godhead" as a "Saviour". But did the early Christians "LOVE"? ...NOT (NOT for long)!!
They quickly become the "ROMAN EMPIRE" and became the "UNLOVING" slaughtering in the name of GOD, what I now call the ONE! (not MALE or FEMALE)
Any "ism", being of mind and matter, (concepts and organizations, or structures) will corrupt and must be cleansed by "change" or "MOTION"...The best we have societally is "dissipating" or "sharing" of the power through "democracy", or the PEOPLE having and controlling the POWER...NOT THE MASTER, not the METHOD, and specially not the MISSION,....To give power to "Structure" or a flag is like going back to the era of the "GOD-king"... Wave a flag and watch someone charging it. ASK THE BULL why he attacks the "RED FLAG"... Because it's there!! (Could be in the "frequency" of the colour red or the agitated MOTION...of the waving of the flag...)
Keep on the Sunny Side of LIFE!!
4d-Don...
March 20, 2007 1:11 AM