Tuesday, July 21, 2009

CHARI IS NOT 83 YEARS OLD !!

According to the Sahaj Marg Site:

Revered Parthasarathi Rajagopalachari

Shri Parthasarathi Rajagopalachari (affectionately known as Chariji) was born on 24 July 1927 in Vayalur, near Chennai, in the south of India.


4d-Don Comments: The date this year on July 24, will be July 24, 2009 of the Christian Era, now called the "common era", so "after the common era" or ACE.

Let's see: 2009-1927= 82. Is that right? Yet all over this same site and on the Shri Ram Chandra Mission (SRCM) site, all the Public Relation (PR) material states that SRCM is celebrating Chari's 83rd Birthday on July 24, 2009 ACE !!

Now I know that Masters of Sahaj Marg are fast (or slow) and/or not grounded in REALITY, but did Chari lose a year? Or is this another GAME of the SPIRITUAL set? Is that the "time-warped" REALITY/FANTASY that one realizes with Sahaj Marg?

If Sahaj Marg can distort TIME, and their own "history", can one believe their claims to manipulate "SPACE" as they claim to "erase samskaras" with such "rituals" as re-reading a section of a book (Whispers From The Brighter World) "seven of eight" times? Is that what the "egregores" are supposed to do for the "abhyasis"? Has the spiritual Sahaj Marg "brand" (trade-marked) now entered into "spiritualism" and its "rituals", as well as into the "scams" of commercialism and it's advertising "agencies"?

Are they "crafty" or just "slow" ?? Hard to believe is it not?

Someone should tell these "enlightened" or "illuminated", that to be believed in their lofty un-verifiable claims, coming from un-named Spirits of the deceased or from their male "god", of which they claim to be the "representatives", one should be accurate with verifiable information.

6 comments:

Anonymous said...

It seems to be a cultural difference: your first bithday is the day you are born (in India).

In the west, your first birthday anniversary is one year after your birthday.

So there is always one year difference between the two approaches.

4d-Don said...

Anonymous...

Interesting... Although two years ago, it was Chari's 80th Birthday celebrations SRCM(California-1997) was advertising and celebrating, now, two years later, it is his "83rd" Birthday ... ;-))

Then I guess that next Sahaj Marg (tm) adherents (like adhesive, glue, stuck) will tell us that the word "MASTER" means GOD and that the word "MASTER" also means self-titled "Chari" ... all AT ONCE...(convenient and "confusing"). Such is the "confusion" generated by "fantasy weavers" that helps them keep their access and "control" on the "TIME" (and resources) of the ignorant masses.

If one word can mean "many things, events or dates" at least let us make one "number" mean only "ONE THING", the true number of "things, events, etc. qualified.

That would mean that the "Birth day" (two words) of a child is celebrated as a BIRTH (an event) ...

The other "BIRTHDAYS" (compound word) (starting one year after the birth, when the child is "one year old") are celebrated as remembering the birth day (and hence the age) of the child so "BIRTHDAYS" from "birth day" and are "memorial" celebrations ... The celebration one year after the "birth" of the CHILD is its "First BIRTHDAY" and its age in years, and not its second "birth day". There is often a different meaning for "compound words", than for the two same two words said or written seperately. (ie "Toast MASTER", and "toastmaster" or "holy days" and "holidays")

If Sahaj Marg or the SRCM (California-1997) and RELIGIONS in general, would use ONE system and ONE system only, then they would remove a little "confusion" in the world and not ADD to the CONFUSION ...

But then we use the date 2009 as the (wrong) date from the birth of a man or a myth (Jesus of Nazareth...the Christ (Saviour or Messiah of the Christians)

RELIGIONS SHOULD NOT BE IN THE BUSINESS OF COUNTING TIME... (Calendars, dates, years, etc... they are not "professionals" counters, but are really "amateurs" ...

But thanks for that comment... It examplifies that there is much work to be done to "UNITE" the world ...

Don...

Anonymous said...

Let me clarify further. Two years ago the celebration was for completing 80 years( or the day was 81st Birthday). That's always a special occasion in Indian culture.

Now He has completed 82 years, so 83rd Birthday is correct as per our Culture.

4d-Don said...

Let's see...

In 2007, Chari, born in July 24, 1927 was:

1927 + 80 = 2007 (or on that date (2007), he completed 80 years on the planet Earth). That is called his "80th Birthday (one word). Starting from his 1st birthday (one word, meaning anniversary of "birth day" (two words)) one year after his "birth day" (two words)

So July 24, 2007 is Chari's 80th Birthday (one word) but it is the 81st BIRTH DAY + birthdays)...(or two words + one word) ) That is like adding oranges and bananas. There is a difference between "Birthday" and "Birth Day"... The former means that he was BORN or his Birth Day (or day of birth) was on July 24, 1927. We celebrate the "anniversary" of that date, every year except the day of his "birth" which is not an "anniversary" of his birth, but it is his BIRTH DAY, or his date of BIRTH (two words). The first "anniversary" of his birth day (or date), is established by counting 365 days after his "date of birth" (or 366 days on "leap years"), and that is called his first "Birthday" (one word meaning the anniversary of his birth day...(two words)). On that date (1928) Chari became "one year old... not TWO, even though it is his "birthday+birth day"... That just adds to ONE year on Earth...not TWO...).

That number means the number of years of life "COMPLETED". On Chari's "BIRTH DATE" or on the day of his birth, Chari had not been on earth for ONE YEAR but for only a few "seconds, minutes, hours" (maximum 24 hours).

One batch of SRCM (California - 1997) Birthday celebration advertising material is wrong! (2007 or 2009)

Which one?

According to your (alleged) culture, the one in 2007 was wrong (when Chari was claimed to be "80 years old" by his PR Machine) and they called it his "80th Birthday", (not his 81st) We thought that was correct and we did not "question it" ... According to my "calendrics", the one (the Public Relations) in 2009 is wrong. (When Chari is 82 years old but his PR Machine claims he is celebrating his "83rd BIRTHDAY" (one word) ... not his "83rd Birth Day". (two words)

It seems that for Religions, and some "spiritualist" groups, counting (accounting) and accountability is not their forte.. (Christianity, which thanks to the might of "Roman Empire", brought us the GIFT of the convention of counting from the birth of Jesus of Nazareth, born in Bethleem, (hence the meaning of 2009), has a long history of wrong counts and adjustments of the "calendars" and even the persecution of cultures with more advance or accurate calendars (i.e. the Mayans) ... It seems that faith relying on "experience", and mathematics ("counting" and calendrics) with its reliance on logic and intellect, do not come "together" and are forever at "odds" ...

I guess to have "UNITY", we'll have to have faith in you and your flaws, as you will not "understand" or accept the "obvious". At least we'll be "together" if only over an error or a flaw ... Is that not the gift of the merchants of fantasies, called RELIGION or SPIRITUALISM ...

When will your ilk, who operate or attempt to manipulate and rationalize with faith, religion and its many fantasies, and/or culture, or a confidence game (calling it culture), BE SPIRITUAL with it's honed (polished) logic and/or super/cosmic "consciousness". It is not a matter of CULTURE, but of LOGIC (simple counting, simple calendrics) ...

Next you'll be telling us to "think with our hearts", the lowly pump for blood, or the slave, and not the "nerve centre", the brain.

Don...

Anonymous said...

Hi Don,
Can you please disappear forever?
Thanks!

Richard

4d-Don said...

Hi Richard...

First, you get an "egregore" and the first thing you do is use it for to case a "spell" or a "curse" in the world of others (my blog) ... As Freud would say: "Your MONSTER is of the ID".

I will do as I was trained in the 12th century to do when "cursed by an "egregore" and their lowly minions: May you attract what you PROJECT!! So Be IT!

Since you seem to have "no light of logic" you will get back your "emotions" (in colour) !!! LIVE with YOUR CREATION or the creation of your EGREGORE ... Saintly you AIN'T ... so stop selling it ... it's a product you don't have... Sahaj Marg is a CON! a SPIRITUALIST SCAM with spells, curses, etc... and now prayers for "a favourable egregore, and PEACE from those who bad-mouth and attack others' Ashrams, temples, churches and religions! GIVE your head a SHAKE...

This Blog is MY HOUSE, in MY COUNTRY, on MY PLANET... You are in MY SPACE...

May you find a PLACE that is YOURS so you don't have to resort to attempting to steal others "FREEDOM of SPEECH" in their HOUSE, as well as stealing other people's SOCIETIES" by re-registering in foreign countries what belonged to others in the "original country" ...

Go home and meditate rather than PREACHING ...

Don....