Saturday, February 27, 2010

Sahaj Marg and SRCM(California-1997) And Their Lies about Lajaji!!

This is from the main site of Shri Ram Chandra Mission (SRCM (California-1997) of Chari's clan's Schism: Sahaj Marg System of Raja Yoga Meditation (Masters of Sahaj Marg-Lalaji).

Happy Birthday Lalaji!!


Do your own research and don't believe the lies propagated by SRCM(California-1997) who re-registered Babuji's organization founded in 1945, in San Luis Obispo, California and in Austin Texas, in 1997 (SMRI) ... They know the truth but seem powerless to correct it. Could it be because of their large materialist "ego" !! Does Sahaj Marg not bring "morality"?

Comments by 4d-don are in "red italics"


Revered Lalaji Maharaj (1873- 1931)


Great men are not born accidentally.

(But there are many "profiteers" who are always ready to use the name of anyone who has accumulated an ounce of earthly "fame" for their own "profit", aggrandizement and legitimacy ... in the name of "spirituality" ... Shame!! )
They descend on earth with design. Humanity awaits them in eager anticipation and expectation. In the dark ages of medieval India, when spirituality was tottering helplessly under the onslaught of blatant materialism, Samarth Guru Mahatma Shri Ram Chandraji Maharaj came down to earth.

(Ah! Excuse me! But "medieval India" is not in the 1800's, but in the "middle ages" before the "golden age" or the "enlightenment", ending in the 1700's ... And the world is still blantantly "materialistic", even inside Sahaj Marg and its businessmen and it's "developers" from the clan of the current Master, Chari ... It always was thus. It was a "material world" and judging by Sahaj Marg, it still is!! But it is also a world of MIND and of SPIRIT ... And that has not "gone away"!! Or it has not "been re-invented" by Sahaj Marg or their usurped "Method").
He rediscovered and refined the ancient Raja Yoga method of pranahuti or transmission.

("Transmission" was never lost so could not be "re-discovered". Lalaji was a disciple of Hazrat Maulana Shah Fazl Ahemad Khan Naqshbandi Mujaddadi Mazahari r.a. (Huzur Maharaj) of Raipur (Kaimganj), Uttar Pradesh, India. He learned all he knew from his Master, including "transmission", and later became the first Hindu (non-Muslim) Master of the Naqshbandia Sufi Order, and continued the teachings of his Master (Huzur). Lalaji's teaching was never called Sahaj Marg ... Lalaji never mentioned the word "Sahaj Marg", and Babuji was never a preceptor of Lalaji's or of his organization ... See NaqshMuMRa Nexus, by Lalaji's grandson and Dean of the NaqshMuMRa Branch of the Naqshbandia Sufi Order.  

PS... If article is not available there, read  complete article on: "Epitome of Sahaj Marg"  on Alexis' blog at: http://srcmsmproject.blogspot.ca/2011/12/epitome-of-sahajmarg.html  

...or see link to this document (and other important documents) on this blog at: http://4d-don.blogspot.ca/2012/06/sahaj-marg-legal-and-important.html


See also Dr. R.K. Gupta's site: Sufi Saints and Sufism
This is a yogic technique by which a spiritual Master pours his divine energy into the heart of an aspirant.


(The Naqshbandia Sufi Order (Islam) were practicing "transmission" for centuries and Huzur taught it to Lalaji ... The "unique" approach of including Hindus in Sufism without asking them to convert to Islam, was originated by the Great Muslim Emperor (Akbar) from Persia (Iran) ... Huzur simply followed the emperor's (Akbar) decree with Lalaji! See India Site for Medieval History ... See Akbar and dates of the "Medieval" era !! )

The aim is to expedite spiritual development. This great master brought within the reach of common people the highest spiritual goal, previously reserved only for ascetics. He himself attained perfection within a span of seven months, and went on to become the first Master of the Sahaj Marg system of spirituality.

( Lalaji has nothing to do with Sahaj Marg and Lalaji refused to make Babuji, whom he only met a few times, a preceptor (see why in Epitome of Sahaj Marg) ... Lalaji died in 1931, Babuji founded Sahaj Marg in 1945.

Chari and SRCM (California-1997) are caught in yet another lie and can't correct their PR material ... Too much "ego"?? This is a blatant lie!! See NaqshMuMRa Nexus and Sufi Saints and Sufism. One would think that anyone who claims a person as their "MASTER", would have more respect for them, and would continue their "teaching" and their "method" and not claim that he founded their own Method, which was invented 13 years after his death!! Babuji in a letter dated 1963, claimed that Lalaji's "organizations" had breathe their last ... Is that RESPECT for Lalaji and his Method and his "legitimate" succession?? This succession is still in existence today!! Research the "Ramashram" of Dr. Chaturbhuj Sahay Ji to get you started. See Babuji's letter here.
Sahaj Marg under Chari has become Spiritualism or Spiritism with Mediums, channeling of messages from the spirits of the dead, autonomous egregores, and "obedience" as the main features ... that is not Lalaji's SUFI METHOD and/or it is not Lalaji's SANTMAT!! Sahaj Marg needs undeserved "legitimacy" and they will usurp it from Lalaji, the United Nations, and what they can't get there, they use the "made-up" words of Babuji from beyond the grave ... Babuji can't defend his "words" so they are used to make Chari more than he is in REALITY!! It is a "star building" mechanism ... the anonymous French Lady Medium will praise Chari, and claim it is coming from Babuji!! The Spiritualist SCAM!! Where are the "ghost-busters"? Where are the debunkers such as the escape artist, "Harry Houdini"?? Babuji would weep and say: "Look what they've done to my song!!"
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Tuesday, February 23, 2010

Rose's Testimonial Part 2! Sahaj Marg At Its Best!

Here is Part 2 of Rose's testimonial ... Rose (not her real name) was engaged to be married to an abhyasi until they went to India and met Catherine Lauret, the French Lady Medium, who is (they claim) channeling messages from Lalaji, Babuji, Chari's mother and Chari's wife and other "elevated souls and is published as: Whispers from The Brighter World. In no uncertain terms, Catherine proceeded to "break them up".

For the full story, see also "Part 1" :

Testimonial From Ex-Fiancée Of Abhyasi!! Big Changes Coming at SRCM (California-1997)?


REALITY CHECK:
Although Rose (not her real name) sent some e-mails to the Master of SRCM (California-1997), Chari, the reply Rose received was probably not from Chari, but from some "abhyasi" who is volunteering by replying to Chari's e-mails ... some e-mail addressed to Chari were apparently replied by A. J. Bhatter, who is in charge of Europe for SRCM(California-1997). A.J. Bhatter, a businessman from Kolkata, India, is Chari's hand-picked "heir apparent". The e-mails 4d-don sent to Chari, (a long time ago) were replied by Santosh Khanjee, who was in charge of North America.

Insertion for clarification by 4d-don are in "red italics"



Rose said ... (continued...)


So on the first night when we were at Catherines house, we had a satsangh from her and after it, she opened her eyes and said to us "Master just came to us in Satsagh and married you two" I wanted to laugh it seemed so ridiculous but (blanked - fiance) seemed mesmerised and loved it!

The next day we went in the morning to have satsangh from her again and again i felt nothing but (blanked-fiance) loved it and then we went to the Ashram to have breakfast. After breakfast me and (blanked-fiance) went and got showered etc and then we decided to go and have a cup of tea in the canteen ... i asked him if we could spend some time alone and not sit with Catherine if she was there as we had not really had a chance to talk to each other properly since we got to India. Guess what.....we got to the Canteen and she was there and (blanked-fiance) went straight to her and we spent all morning with her!

Then we arranged to go to her flat later for satsangh. When we got there Catherine said that we could not have satsangh yet as she had received a message from Master (again on the "inside") that they could feel her transmissions in New Delihi where he was travelling and it was interfering with the souls there and they were becoming suspicious so she should not give it yet! How absurd. Anyway we ended up spending the evening with her again and we asked her more questions.....

When Catherine had been in England at (blanked-friend) house when she introduced them to this "new way" 2 years before she had told (blanked-friend) that his house would be an ashram and that he should start converting it. He spent a lot of money lovingly converting it and we asked why he had been told to turn his house into an ashram when the whole of the UK was meant to be destroyed in a nuclear war? She said "i will ask Babuju now" shut her eyes and a few minutes later opened them and said "it was neccessary at the time so that you two had a protective bubble around you to protect you from the bad souls that were trying to attack you" she also said "we don't like receiving bad news, start preparing and sell all your stuff in preperation so it wont be too sudden when you do have to move to India because of Nuclear war"

She told (blanked-fiance) he should not be in contact with Abhiyasis who you used to be really close with because they do not accept her from the inside and they would try and attack her through him because he is linked to her-so basically she was trying to control every single aspect of his life!

I thought it was really strange the way her and Shiva both got very worried when (blanked-fiance) said he had wrote an email to Master about her and she wanted to make sure that he had not actually written her name in it- this aroused my suspicions as if Master and all the people close to him knew about her why should (blanked- fiance) not put her name in emails.

I think Catherine could see that (blanked-fiance) was having a lot of doubts and we had told her that (blanked-friend) had been having doubts lately.... she said it was good to have doubts....then she shut her eyes said Babuji was with her and said "(blanked-fiance), Babuji wishes to tell you that you have been made a preceptor"- so clever of her. She could see he was having doubts so she made him a preceptor to feed his ego a bit. She also said "Babuji is telling me to tell you that you have an amazing chance to get to know the next master before anyone else knows about her and you should use this time wisely as one day you will need Binoculors to see her"

(Blanked-fiance) also asked her something about Ajay - Catherine has told (blanked-friend) that Ajay's family had been telling him that he should be the next one and Ajay was having doubts about Catherine too but Catherine said that it was all sorted, Ajay accepted her. So we said that when she was master who would take care of the "business" aspect of Sahaj Marg- ie the accounts etc-bear in mind that Catherine can barely speak english - when she does its very broken. So we asked if Ajay would be like her right hand man - she said "No Ajay will have to go back to being the most basic Abhiyasi and he will have no role in the management of the mission and no responsibilities.

Later on she closed her eyes and asked masters inside if we could have satsangh and he said no so we went back to the ashram to sleep.

Obviously all this was totally new to me and i was very disturbed and i was crying and upset. I could not sleep properly and in the morning i told (blanked-fiance) that i did not really feel comfortable going to see Catherine this morning. He said he was going to go anyway and we had an arguement. He went off to see her but 20 mintues later he was back. He then said we would go shopping for the day with Shiva as a guide and i asked if Catherine was coming and he said "Master has told her she is not allowed to go to the shops so she won't come"

So (blanked-fiance) went to meet shiva and i got ready but could not find my shoes and i went out to try and ask (blanked-fiance) to help me find them but i could not see him and after searching for him barefoot for ages i found him sitting with Shiva and we ended up having another arguement. I went back to the dorm and (blanked-fiance) came, we made up and we decided to go shopping ... as we were walking out of the Dorm we saw Catherine and she said to us "I have received a message for you both from master you must come immediately with me"

So me and (blanked- fiance) went with her to the Mango grove in the ashram and sat and she shut her eyes and said:

"(blanked-fiance) and Rose must end their relationship immediately. They must return to England today and end their relationship, (blanked-fiance) must move out of the house they share and move back in with (blanked-friend)"

I sat there gobsmaked and i just could not believe it. I said to (blanked-fiance) "Shall we go off and have a chat about this" as i was desperate to get away from Catherine. Catherine went back to her flat and me and (blanked-fiance) started talking but he did not want to accept that what Catherine was saying was rubbish so we had an arguement and he started walking to Catherines house ... i still had not found my shoes so i followed him barefoot. I stopped walking to calm down a bit and he kept going. After about five mintues i started walking to Catherines and when i got there i was very upset, in tears and when she opened the door to her flat i was visibly upset and i asked her to ask again and she shut her eyes and said Babuji was saying:

"When Rose and (blanked-fiance) got together i did not want it to happen but i let it go on. Rose has a very deep anger samskara inside her and because (blanked-fiance) has power inside him this aggrevates Rose's anger and if they stay together Rose will be mad in 8 months so they must end their relationship today, go back to England today and live seperate lives. (blanked- fiance) has a great future in sahaj marg and nothing must stop it"

I could not believe this. I asked Catherine to ask why me and (blanked-fiance) had been put together in the first place if they knew we were not compatable and she said that sometimes problems only become apparent after cleanings have taken place. This was so strange as last night she had told me that i was very light and she had not had to do much cleaning on me at all!

I was in tears i was inconsolabe and when i looked at Catherine all she could say was "im sorry there is nothing we can do for you"

Conveniently, Shiva had the phone number on his phone that we would have to ring to change our flights! So right then he rang and changed our flights for that night. I just could not believe that (blanked-fiance) was going along with this. Catherine then said "You must email Master for confirmation that this is what he wants"

So we went to an internet cafe and we wrote an email to master asking if it was true.

We then packed and got ready to leave that night. (blanked-fiance) wanted to spend the evening before the flight with ...... thats right Catherine so i had to spend an evening with a women who was ruining my life.

On the flight back i just kept crying and (blanked-fiance) said "its not over unless we get an email from master saying this is what he wants" Eventually we got back to our house and (blanked-fiance) cleared all his stuff out and moved it to (blanked-friend) and 2 hours later her came back and said it was definately over between us. I asked if he had a reply from master and he said "no but Catherine knows whats best for me" i just could not believe this was happening. (blanked-fiance) then told me that he was booking a flight for himself to go back to India to spend a month with Catherine and to sort his head out and when he got back he would decide what he wanted.

I could not understand what was going on so i emailed master myself and asked if he wanted us to end the relationship and he replied saying "i would never tell anyone to end their relationship, you have my blessings to be together and be happy" i showed (blanked-fiance) and he said that it was a positive sign for us but then he spoke to Catherine about it and she said that because master is not a medium his inside and outside say different things but his inside wanted our relationship to end!

So as far as (blanked-fiance) was concerned our engagement was over. He made me pack my stuff and move back to my mums house and when i told her the full story she said "You are better off without him, he is obviously brainwashed" and then she showed me text messages that (blanked-fiance) had sent her that said "I will never ever leave your daughter and i will always look after her"

I was so upset at what happened that i emailed master with the whole story and asked him if Catherine was who she said she was. I got a reply saying

"You must look into your heart and use your wisdom to decide if it is real" but i wanted real answers so i persued it and i eventually i got a reply which said:

"Who is catherine and what advice she has given you is your concern. We are not aware of her and we have no interest in her wither (either??)"

I sent this email to (blanked-friend) and (blanked-fiance) but (blanked-friend) says he will make his own mind up and (blanked-fiance) is no longer talking to me (probably on the advice of Catherine)

Catherine Lauret is a dangerous women and anyone who comes in contact with her should be on their guard and beware! She has ruined my life and she is ruthless and will stop at nothing to get what she wants!

Rose
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Monday, February 22, 2010

Testimonial From Ex-Fiancée Of Abhyasi!! Big Changes Coming At SRCM(California-1997)?

This Testimonial was received in an e-mail by "Rose". The names have been changed or blanked out, and the locations have been "blanked out" for obvious reasons at the request of the sender ...

The author (4d-don) has not changed any of the text except adding spaces (paragraphs), changing or blanking out names as requested by the sender, and correcting some obvious typos (not spelling) ... all for readability, not to alter the content!!

Insertions for clarification by 4d-don are in "red italics")



Hi Don

I have been thinking about it and i would like to tell you my story but if you could keep the following names confidential: Mine, (blank-fiance) and (blank-friend) . Im not very good at telling stories so it might be a bit "bitty" so apologies for that.

Here we go......


In January 2009 my now ex fiancee (blanked) came to work as a locum in the hospital where i work permanantly. He was 26 and very good looking and a really charming man. A lot of women were interested in started a relationship with him including me but he kept saying no because he said his lifestyle was different and he gets up at 4.30 to meditate, does not drink and so most women would find it difficult to integrate into his life.

Anyway after he left work in march, me and him kept in contact as friends as we had got quite close while he had worked there and had lunches together every day. I was still interested in starting a relationship with him. By now we has become quite close friends and i knew a lot about Sahaj Marg from talking to him and reading the literature and to be honest i found it all very interesting but that was before i knew the real truth!

I still kept on asking him if he would like to start a relationship with him (me?) and i explained to him that i would do anything to fit into his lifestyle. He asked for a few days to think about it and a couple of days later he met up with me and said he would like to have a relationship with me so we started to see each other.

It was only after a couple of months that he revealed the truth to me about why he decided to have a relationship with me-

Two years previously he had asked Master to arrange a marriage for him and when he met me and saw how persistant i was and how i had said i would do anything to fit into his lifestyle he decided to email master and ask if i was the women he has arranged his marriage to (bear in mind i have never met master or anyone else in sahaj marg!) and Ajay Bhatter had replied and said "why the hesitation if you like this girl" which (blanked-fiance) took to mean yes and that was the only reason he decided to be with me. I took all this in my stride and agreed that it was amazing even though i did not really believe it. I did find it amazing that my family accepted (blanked-fiance) because i never thought my mum would accept me marrying a white man!

At this time (blanked-fiance) lived with another Abhiyasi (blanked-friend) and whenever me and (blanked-fiance) used to go away for the weekend he used to ring (blanked-friend) and arrange to do cleaning at the same time - i found this very strange as according to the literature cleaning was something you did yourself. When i questioned (blanked-fiance) and said why do you have to ring him to do cleaning at the same time he told me the story of the medium:

(Blanked-fiance) and (blanked-friend) used to be totally devoted Abhyasis and they used to travel from the (blanked) to (blanked) twice a week (about 1.5 hour journy each way) to attend satsangh etc. Anyway (blanked-friend) went to the Chennai ashram about 2 years ago and (blanked-fiance) received a phone call from him and he said to him "dont go to satsangh anymore i will explain everything when i get back". (blanked-fiance) said he thought this was really strange but he did it anyway and when (blanked-friend) came back he explained that he had met a french lady medium called Catherine Lauret who said that Ajay was not going to be the next representative and who had explained to him about the future of Sahaj Marg and how it was going to totally change .....

(Blanked-fiance) and his friend believed Catherine and she came and spent a week at their house training them in the so called "new way". She said that because preceptors have been abusing their powers and letting their ego get the better of them and not taking (their) duties properly in the "new way" cleaning would be done by Babuju direct from the brighter world via the heart of the new representative (her)

She also said that most people would not accept her on an inner level and when she was announced as the new one 90% of sahaj marg would leave but when they felt what life was like without a master they would all come back. So the new routine for (blanked-fiance) and (blanked-friend) was: Get up at 4.30 and meditate for one hour. After 15 minutes break they would have Satsangh for about 45 minutes (Catherine said that (blanked-friend) was a preceptor and he gave satsangh) then in the evening they would do cleaning together-ie Babuji would come and do the cleaning via catherines heart and (blanked-friend) would give the transmissions. But the important thing to remember is that the preceptors no longer had any power-they were simply like a "tap" and if it was felt that they were not doing their duties properly the tap could just be switched off by Babuji .........

I asked both (blanked-fiance) and (blanked-friend) if they had confirmation of this "new way" from master and they said no but they did not need it because they could feel the transmissions from Catherine. I said that even if she could transmit, it did not mean she was the next one. I found it all very strange. Anyway (blanked-fiance) told me that him and (blanked-friend) had not heard anything from Catherine for over a year but they still carried on faithfully doing the new way.

Me and (blanked-fiance) carried on in our relationship eventually renting a house together and spending a lot of time and money doing it up and buing new things and we moved in and then in December (blanked-fiance) suggested that we go to India on a trip to see master. We booked the tickets and the travel centre at the ashram asked us to email them near the time so that they could confirm whether master would be there or not. Nearer the time i asked (blanked-fiance) to email but he said there was no need to. I later found out that he was back in touch with Catherine and this was probably the reason he did not want to email, because he knew master was travelling and he knew that he would get to spend all week with catherine.

Anyway we got to India and as soon as we landed he was on the phone to catherine arranging to meet her-i did not even hasve the chance to get changed. We met catherine in the canteen of the ashram along with a man called Shiva. We had a drink and then we arranged to meet later in the evening at Catherine and Shivas flat which was near the ashram.

I found Catherine and Shivas story strange too. He is a 30-something year old single man who lives with catherine and runs around after her getting her food and basically being her slave!

Anyway that evening was wierd. We sat and had satsangh from her and i did not feel anything and the next morning after meditation (blanked-fiance) wanted to go straight to hers and have satsangh from her again. Then he wanted to spend all day with her.

This is a list of some of the things she told us:

Master had told her she was not allowed to go to Elliots beach in chennai because there was going to be a tsunami

In 2010 there will be a nuclear war between China and Europe and the whole of the UK will be destroyed so (blanked-fiance) and (blanked-friend) should move to India straight away (to this (blanked-fiance) said if it was just him he would move straight away but obviously he would have to discuss it with me and i said i probably would not move to India-i think this is the reason she told (blanked-fiance) to end things with me-more of that later)

She said all of Masters powers are being taken away from him and being given to her and the transmissions that he gives have no power.

She said people linked with her should not do the 9 pm prayer as it goes against the divine plan (ie wars and catastrophes have to happen to get rid of bad souls and so we should not pray for them not to happen)

She said that there are a lot of "angry souls" around Master at the moment and that they were all trying to attack her from the inside and this is the reason she did not have any contact with (blanked-fiance) and (blanked-friend) for 18 months-because they were trying to get at her through their emails!

I will have to tell you the rest of the story tomorrow as my mum needs to use the computer now but there is a lot more for me to say including what else catherine has said, how she broke up my relationship with (blanked-fiance) and what master said to me when i emailed and asked about whether catherine was indeed the next representative and not Ajay.

Rose


More to come .... Watch for:

Rose's Testimonial Part 2! Sahaj Marg At It's Best!
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Thursday, February 18, 2010

SRCM (California-1997) Anonymous French Medium Has a Name?

These comments were left on Shashwat Pandey's blog: The Cult of Sahaj Marg (Shree Ram Chandra Mission)
See comments to the article: Fake Currency in Sahaj Marg. Some of the comments are also on the Orkut Community called: Freedom From Sahaj Marg in a message called: Another Break-up. Another of the comments listed below, was left on this blog.

It seems that according to these "comments" on Shashwat's blog, on the Orkut Community (Freedom From SRCM-Sahaj Marg) , and on this blog, if these comments are accurate, that the "anonymous" French Medium of Sahaj Marg is not so anonymous anymore, and seems to have "delusions of grandeur" or sees herself as a "king-maker"!

Is megalomania contagious? ... Like most "religious" intrigues, it gets curiouser and curiouser!! Ah the bliss of SPIRITUALISM!! (Egregores, Mediums, Messages from the DEAD, worshipping a "clay IDOL" (a nationalist businessman, retired CEO from large consortium in India), etc... etc...

Now Sahaj Marg has its RASPUTIN (Grigori) !! The Revolution is NEAR!!

For my personal experience and analysis of Sahaj Marg, see my first blogs (see hypertext (interactive)) INDEX in the right margin of this site (and click to open) ...

This group is focused on children at their PRIVATE school for the "wealthy", built with "charity" dollars from around the world !! And is trying to spread their Private school model, first to Europe, then to North America and the World! Get them before they can "think" ... or "use the brain" consciously!



THE COMMENTS and REPLIES:


Anonymous said...(on Shashwat's blog: The Cult of Sahaj Marg (Shree Ram Chandra Mission)

I was engaged to someone who is aa (an?) abhiyasi of Sahaj Marg and i recently went to the chennai ashram with him (we are from the uk) to see what its all about as i am not a follower of sahaj marg.......Master was travelling and was not in the ashram but while we were there he introduced me to a french medium called Catherine who says the (she? or ?) is going to be the next master of Sahaj Marg not Ajay Bhatter as has been stated by Chariji. She told my fiancee that we had to leave india that night( we had only been there 2 nights), she told hin to break up with me ... move out of the house we share and he did all these things. Is this what sahaj marg is about? Breaking families up and ending relationships! Its a big scam and everyone in it should be very carefull.

Thursday, February 18, 2010 1:19:00 AM GMT+05:30


Anonymous has left a new comment on this blog: "Comments to Chari's 2010 New Year's Speech":

My ex fiance is an Abyiasi of sahaj marg and recently we went to india to meet chariji and i was introduce to a french medium who says she is the next master of sahaj marg not Ajay Bhatter. I know her name, have pictures of her have her phone number. She has totally ruined my life because she told my fiance to break up with me because she said Babuji told her ... its a long story for all the information contact me!



Posted by anonymous to Our World from Another Dimension at February 18, 2010 7:09:00 AM PST


Shashwat said...(on his blog: The Cult of Sahaj Marg (Shree Ram Chandra Mission)

Hi Anonymous,

get out of this cocoon and get out in open and challenge this cult in their face.. that will do the job.

Please take this sincere advice, do not get involved with zombies of sahaj marg, they are immune to love and understanding of humans, they are brain-dead creatures and cannot reciprocate love with compassion, getting involved with them emotionally is a crime and price for that is an emotional scar on you for rest of your life..

BE-AWARE of sahaj marg!

Bless yourself that you are lucky and are saved from becoming another zombie of their kind, that break-up was for your good, Congrats for getting out from a cult trap.. there is/was no point in getting involved with brain-dead person, if he can simply walk away from you ONLY because someone has asked him to do.. thank God he did not offer you to someone else..

You are saved.


On ORKUT: (From Shashwat's blog: The Cult of Sahaj Marg (Shree Ram Chandra Mission)

http://www.orkut.com/Main#CommMsgs?cmm=24873318&tid=5439201031005376966&start=1


Anonymous said...



Thank you!

We had set up a house, we were engaged and we were planning a wedding. I am indian and he is english and this was a big deal for my family. I can see now that he is a zombie, totally controlled by Sahaj Marg. He had to take advice from them for everything-where to live, where to work etc.

He even thought our marriage had been arranged by Chariji and only got with me because of that then this silly women, catherine told him that Charijis soul said to her that he wanted our relationship to end and so we emailed him and asked him and he said no he wanted us to stay together and be happy. But my fiancee he still ended it because this Catherine says she is the next Master.

Its all so strange in sahaj marg, everyone seems to be brainwashed.

All my family say i have had a narrow escape and now i agree!

BEWARE OF SAHAJ MARG EVERYONE-IT COULD RUIN YOUR LIFE.......




Anonymous said...(on Shashwat's blog: The Cult of Sahaj Marg (Shree Ram Chandra Mission)

Thank you!

We had set up a house, we were engaged and we were planning a wedding. I am indian and he is english and this was a big deal for my family. I can see now that he is a zombie, totally controlled by Sahaj Marg. He had to take advice from them for everything-where to live, where to work etc.
He even thought our marriage had been arranged by Chariji and only got with me bacause of that then this silly women, catherine told him that Charijis soul said to her that he wanted our relationship to end and so we emailed him and asked him and he said no he wanted us to stay together and be happy. But my fiancee he still ended it because this Catherine says she is the next Master.
Its all so strange in sahaj marg, everyone seems to be brainwashed.
All my family say i have had a narrow escape and now i agree!
BEWARE OF SAHAJ MARG EVERYONE-IT COULD RUIN YOUR LIFE.......


Shashwat said... (on his blog: The Cult of Sahaj Marg (Shree Ram Chandra Mission)

Dear Anonymous,

Don't you think this is absolute nonsense? a living persons soul tells someone that someone should marry someone else!!! this is the story of sahaj marg, it is based on communication in dreams (babuji talking to lalaji in his dreams) and this has now come to this extent that living people do not communicate to each other directly but their souls talk to each other in their dreams and then they fight with each other stating their soul did not said that what other claiming!!!

This is utterly foolish, but a dangerous sign that there are people who believe in such things and are not under medical care but are free to roam in our society.

Now coming to your story, i personally do not think that inter racial marriages do succeed in long run, have a look at marriage of Michael Saki ()http://innnercircleofsrcm.blogspot.com) he was also married to an Indian women by chari, the women ended up in prison for attempting to kill his children and now they are happily divorced, Michael is happy doing his job and his ex-wife is happy doing her time in prison.

Any marriage which is not based on love and respect for each other and their family is bound to break down as holding factor of love was missing, in your case it was based on that persons perception that it is due to sahaj marg and there is no surprise that he ran away from the relation when he was made to realize that basis of relation (sahaj marg) does not hold true..

This is as stupid can stupidity can be.. but we still have people falling in trap of this cult and becoming zombies... this is what is called karma..


Anonymous said...

I feel so sorry for my ex fiance and i wonder if there is anyway of helping him get out of this trap and coming back into the real world.


Shashwat said...

Yes, there is a way to help him and other like him, fight back , don't give-up to this cult for destroying your life and others like you.

Don't feel scared of this cult, start speaking openly about your experience, start a blog, write about this cult and let people know what you have gone through because of brainwashing tactics of this cult. open a blog, let us know its URL and if possible speak up in our community in orkut "Freedom from SRCM-sahaj marg" this is the link:- http://www.orkut.co.in/Main#Community?rl=cpn&cmm=24873318

express yourself and let people know about this cult, this will help many like you.



Megalomania: A famous quotation by Bertrand Russell gives his interpretation of megolamania:

"The megalomaniac differs from the
narcissist by the fact that he wishes to be powerful rather than charming, and seeks to be feared rather than loved. To this type belong many lunatics and most of the great men of history."
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Sunday, February 14, 2010

Chari, Guru of Sahaj Marg GUILTS the Abhyasis AGAIN!!

Taken and Translated from an article by Alexis on Elodie's blog in Europe: Pour Que Vive Le Sahaj Marg.

Guilt seems to motivate the "co-dependents" and so as most religions do, Chari's SERMONS are based on "fear and temptation" ... How UNIQUE!! How RAJA YOGA!! ;-)) I get the feeling that Chari "desires" another material "cottage". (How many cottages (houses) does that make? Dozens? How many travel with him for "FREE"? Happy Valentine's Day !!


Comments by 4d-don are in "red italics"



Sunday, February 14, 2010

I am tired, they do not obey
Some excerpts from Chari's speech of February 2nd and 7th, at Jabalpur and then at Kolkata:

« [Babuji] said it is easy to find a Master today, but it is extremely difficult to find a disciple.(…)
So I am tired, after all these years of Sahaj Marg, I confess to Babuji Maharaj, “Boss, I am tired. I have tried, tried and tried again, but your people, your abhyasis” — because you are His — “they listen not. They obey not. They follow not. They do not.” (…) (Spirituality means "BEING"! Materialism and the Physical means "DOING". As "Spirit" (singular ... not "spirits") we are Humans BEING! Not Humans "DOING"!! )

I say this because I remember here so many abhyasis — especially one sister who was very close to me, saying she was my sister, left the Mission about a year or eighteen months ago when her husband passed away. She said, “If Sahaj Marg is Sahaj Marg, how can my husband die? It is cruel. Such a man cannot be a guru or a god.” She just left. We have not seen her since. Many others, when they have a business loss, they leave the Mission. Many, when something happens that they don’t want to happen, they quit the Mission.(…)
We do nothing that is expected of us and we want everything that is promised by spirituality (…) »



(Those of us on the "outside" can add the names of many other acquaintances, "spouses" of abhyasis and/or preceptors, who have passed away from "stress-related" diseases of the heart or the blood "system" (heart attack, stroke, etc..) since Chari took over!!

NUMBERS, NUMBERS, NUMBERS, being of the MATERIAL, it looks good for "business", and appears as "success" (ego), but not being of the SPIRIT (which is ONE ... or simply BEING, or no growth) creates STRESS, STRESS, STRESS ... and eventually, DEATH!

And then there is the "egregore", the "alternate therapies", and the SPIRITUALISM or SPIRITISM at SRCM (California-1997) .... Which SPIRITS are being called upon?? Which therapies are "certified"? Who is the EXPERT in SPIRITISM at SRCM(California-1997). Judging by Chari's statements: NO ONE!! Babuji and Dr. Varadachari warned about playing the numbers and nationalistic commercialism games that Chari is playing!!

(NOTICE: Chari uses the pronoun "His" in relationship to Babuji, so that without stating it emphatically, he is capitalizing his own "pronoun" as Lalaji's and Babuji's self-professed successor!! It leaves the gullible abhyasis with the impression that Babuji is "god" (capitalized), so Chari must be a "god" also ... EGO!! Remember Lalaji's Aphorism:
Never offer advice unless invited, otherwise it is likely to yield bad results.)


Once again, the teacher complains about his disciples. No self-criticism, everything is their fault.

In a time of celebration of the anniversary of Lalaji, it is perhaps worth recalling that Lalaji and his predecessors did not have the same relationship with their followers as the guru Chari with his crowds of abhyasis .

Lalaji spoke of associates or followers, he maintained a personal relationship with them, and it is he (the master) which shouldered most of the responsibility for the spiritual work.

Guru Chari has seen fit to multiply indefinitely the numbers of his followers, speaking to crowds rather than to individuals. He describes perfectly above the dismal results. Too bad he is unable to practice self-criticism. While he is not solely responsible for the outcome, but he is jointly responsible along with his beloved followers, whom he accuses. (it is a "co-dependence" after all)

How can we believe he has no responsibility for the fact that abhyasis believe in miracles, and that they leave SRCM(California-1997) when they realize that these miracles have not occurred? That's because he has dangled the prospect of miracles, (and led them by the nose with "lies") because he takes the place of God in their hearts, and they are ever disappointed.

Today, Chari pays the piper for his policy of expansion. There has never happened such disappointments to Lalaji or Babuji in their individual relationship of master and disciple. At the same time, they promised no miracles and they did not take themselves for God. (or His (male) representative ... a flawed theology, but they were servants!! )

Babuji has perhaps said that it was difficult to find followers, but he has especially said that it is better to have no Master at all that to have a bad master ...

Alexis



Comments by 4d-don:


Later... FEAR and TEMPTATION by Chari:


But there is no satsangh in which I don’t hear at least half a dozen telephones ringing. Obedience! And why this instant rush to put on your telephone in the satsangh? “That’s all” and the first thing that you reach for is your telephone. So where has your attention been? Have you been meditating? Have you been thinking of the divine light in the heart? Or are you all waiting to know when you can switch on the telephone? — “That’s all”! I mean, don’t laugh; it is a matter of spiritual life and spiritual death. And what is it that you are expecting to listen or hear on the telephone the moment you switch on? Some disaster? What are you waiting to listen to the moment the satsangh is over?


Do not let the pseudo-gurus frighten you with the religious mechanism of FEAR and TEMPTATION.

If we have a "spirit" and if "spirituality" is REAL and a fact of LIFE, then SPIRIT is ONE and does not DIE!! The material, being a temporal illusion, transforms to other forms of the multi-faceted material realm, but the SPIRIT lives on, as it is part of the DIVINE or of the ONE-ness ...


Another serious theological flaw and another contradiction from a Materialist who thinks he can make up his theology as he goes along (without thinking and remembering with the BRAIN) ... His modus operandi (mode of operation) is to: "discourage thinking (brain), and hit at the emotions (heart)". As
Niccolò di Bernardo dei Machiavelli ( ...of the philosophy of "the end justifies the means" fame...), may have said: "anything for a buck (a material dollar and/or a materialist's Unit of Power) !!"

And then like a "televangelist", Chari prays (to the Master, and/or to a MALE GOD) for the removal of the "guilt" he himself has created and planted (using an egregore, a meme or a post-hypnotic suggestion after the crowd was made somewhat "receptive"):

"So how many of you are going to make this resolution that, “God, Master, forgive me for I have been even less than a beggar, because I have been impatient. I come and stand at your door. I receive nothing because I am busy with my telephone and what not; and I walk on to the next house,” where of course, you will get nothing. “Let me at least become a better beggar and the best beggar who will only stand at your gate until I receive something, and then let me come in and say, ‘I want to be your son (or daughter)’.” It requires great guts. It requires great truthfulness to yourself to recognise, to accept, that “This I am; That I want to be. Please bridge the gap for me.”

But Chari, the abhyasis send the prayers to you!! It is up to you to do it, figure it out or get out of the business of self-professed MASTER-ship! STOP ASKING others to do what you can't!! Developing on and on!! Making more "THINGS" of Concrete and mortar!! They're imitating you... Having "material" dreams and making them happen, before "BEING" spiritual!! Chari's trail is a trail of Material THINGS ... with a flawed logic to rationalize it. Sahaj Marg paves paradise and puts in "parking lots"!!

To Chari's question:
Are you celebrating the great presence of the great Master, the Adi-guru of Sahaj Marg, Param Pujya Lalaji Maharaj?

4d-Don's reply: If abhyaisis want to celebrate Lalaji, leave the "usurpers" and celebrate him in the "method" he preached and with the true followers of his method and his path (which still exist): the SUFI Path from the NaqshMuMRa Branch of the Naqshbandia Sufi Order. (see NaqshMuMRa Nexus)

and Chari's own curse of FEAR he spreads on other unsuspecting "seekers":

"I pray that all of you will give thought to this, and not let other circumstances allow you or permit you or force you or compel you to deviate from this path, because once lost, you may never find it again. And if you never find it again, well, we will come again and again and again like an actor going on the stage, evening after evening to play his part, not realising that he is condemned to that stage. I pray for you all."


Don says:


FEAR mongering and Bull crap!! That may be Chari's materialist fate ... always wanting his ego to be "obeyed" so he can fulfill his materialist "desires"!! SPIRIT is not STRUCTURES made of CONCRETE and MORTAR where true seekers are manipulated and trapped and milked of their time and money by the "wealthy" through "obedience" to a MAN (an idol), into "spiritualist" RITUALS. (egregores, mediums, messages from beyond the grave, etc.. etc..)

Don
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Wednesday, February 10, 2010

Are The International Police Watching SRCM(California-1997)??

Taken and translated from an article on Elodie's Blog in Europe: Pour Que Vive le Sahaj Marg. The article is a letter by ex-preceptor of SRCM, Peter (now a preceptor with the Institute of Sri Ramchandra Consciousness (ISRC), led by K.C. Narayana, son of Dr. K.C. Varadachari, and a schism of Chari's SRCM (California-1997).

(Thanks to Elodie and Alexis for the translation of the abbreviations)


Insertions by 4d-don are in "red italics"





Wednesday, February 10, 2010

(Central Directorate of) General Information (Police, France) and the SRCM


Hello to you all,

A quick note to tell you a little story ...

Approximately 2 years ago, I received a telephone call from the (Central Directorate of) General Information (of police). At first I laughed thinking it was a joke ..! The police lieutenant him, was not kidding! He explained that he seriously wanted to meet with me about my extra-professional activities .. emphasizing the "non-professional", and wondering if I could see what he was trying to say. I was at that time in a professional RV (rendez-vous or meeting) - I could not talk too much - but I managed to ask him why he wanted to see me ... He then spoke vaguely of a complaint and arranged very quickly a date for a RV (rendez-vous or meeting) at the police station because he said it was more discreet.

48 hours later I'm at the police (station), very curious about the reasons for the RV (meeting or rendez-vous)

I learned generally:

1 / there had been a phone call to the Prefect's (of police) Office
2 / in my file, there is a letter accusing me
3 / they have investigated to see if there was any personal gain (my company accounts and my personal account)
4 that the purpose of the RV (meeting or rendez-vous) was whether I had manipulated anybody ...

On his desk I see the list of the (Sahaj Marg members or abhyasis) members of the region (with the logo of SRCM (Shri Ram Chandra Mission))

The interview went very well, the man was intelligent, much was discussed but I did not manage to find out who had sent the famous letter. Although, I found out that it involved an abhyasis in particular.

After a little investigation it turns out that the lover of this abhyasis, hearing a lot about Peter and meditation became convinced that the origin of his problems as a couple originated either from Peter or the meditation.

After this adventure that had piqued my curiosity, I applied to the CNIL (Commission Nationale d'Intelligence et Liberte (Freedom) from all the intelligence services (Europol, Interpol, Gendarmerie, (Central Directorate of) General Information, etc. ..), for a consultation with the data on file concerning me.

I had a very quick response from all the agencies (of course with the words - "none" -) except for the office of the (Central Directorate of) General Information which have taken over 2 years to respond ... !

Last week I received a letter from the Prefecture (registered with AR (Accuse de Reception... or sign upon receipt)) which informs me that on Tuesday February 09, at 10 o'clock I could see my file at the Prefecture and that a member from the (Central Directorate of) General Information would be present.

More than 2 years after my request, I would finally know what this lovesick lover reproached me. The wait was long but was finally approaching the goal ... !

At the appointed hour, I'm at the Prefecture to see my file ... And oh! surprise .. the file is tiny. To view my file, he had written to my bank after my RV (meeting) with the Lieutenant of Police, there was also a note informing the office of Prefect ... none of this in the folder! And the strongest ... is that there was not even the letter of the poor lover who was concerned ...

It was an open secret (at least for the permanent residents of Augerans (the old Peugeot Castle, Headquarters of SRCM in Europe before its move to Denmark) near the front of the entrance of Augerans, there lived an old retired police colonel, who occupied his free time by writing down license plates of the vehicles, using binoculars.

So it was his report that I had before my eyes ... He said that the seminar brought together 800 people, the tents had been installed by the Sté Trucmuche (Society X or Y ??... the powers that be?), that this (seminar) has cost (x) thousands of francs .. Finally, nothing very important ... and after, he communicates the Numbers of the license plates being very careful to specify that a person who meditates is attached to the French Embassy, in Morocco.

That is the story... Making a mountain out of a mole hill ...

Morality (for those who doubted it)

- Yes, we are all on file by the police

And for some curious who want to know what is in one's folder: it's not even worth bothering to ask, knowing that they hide what they want ... !

To end on a note of optimism, the two mentioned letters dated 1998/1999, and I understand that since the sale of Augerans (castle) the SRCM is not too much in the cross-hairs of the (Central Directorate of) General Information ...

More...

Peter

Thursday, February 04, 2010

Lalaji Had a Master! Hujur from the Naqshbandia (Silsila) Sufi Order!



This exchange of e-mails came after my reading Dr. R.K. Gupta's site: Sufi Saints and Sufism and specifically the sections on NaqshMuMRa Stream of Sufis (Lalaji's Lineage in the Naqshbandia Sufi Order), and Sufism in India. Unlike the false statements by the Sahaj Marg Founder, Babuji, who allegedly (according to Chari) claimed that Lalaji had no master, a statement which has been repeated by Chari, now the President of the SRCM (California-1997) a schism of the original SRCM (Shahjahanpur-1945),
Dr. Gupta's site claims that Shri Ram Chandra of Fatehgarh, (aka Lalaji) was a disciple of Maulana Fazl Ahmad Khan (Hujur or Hujoor Maharaj), a Master of the Naqshbandia (Silcila) Sufi Order.

Below see some quotes by Lalaji ... (taken from ORKUT Community: Freedom From Sahaj Marg)... compare them to the current philosophy of Sahaj Marg(tm), and the SRCM (California-1997) of Chari. Rememberl... Lalaji had 212 disciples in all and nine preceptors (Babuji was not one of them...see why here or if document is missing, see here or here ) ... Lalaji was a "hands on" Master and not a CEO of a pyramidal Corporation of Meditators operating as the AMWAY of Spirituality ... (one higher up in SRCM (California-1997) is an AMWAY distributor).
This is also confirmed on the NaqshMuMRa Nexus (or see here or here) site of Dinaysh Kumar Saxena, grandson of Lalaji and Dean of the NaqshMuMRa Sufi branch of the great Naqshbandia (Silsila) Sufi Order.



To:
rkgupta (address blanked out)
Sent: Fri, 22 January, 2010 5:02:31 AM
Subject: correction...


Dear RK Gupta...

I humbly present this sentence from your article at the above link, specifically in the last lines of the section on Maulana Fazl Ahmad Khan (Hujur Maharaj), Master of Shri Ram Chandra of Fatehgarh, (aka Lalaji)...
"The Naqshbandi Sufi way has reached far and wide, in every nook and corner of India and also abroad through the grace of Mahatma Ram Chandraji and efforts made by his disciples, especially Mahatma Chaturbhuj Sahayji and Mahatma Ram Chandraji of Sahajahanpur (founder of Shri Ram Chandra Mission) and his disciple Shri Rajagopalachari."
In light of these two links, your comments and/or an amendment or a correction to this sentence would clarify my (and other's) confusion... Babuji and Chariji are not spreading the "Sufi way" but are "usurping" it, and denigrating and denying the Sufi influence in their Sahaj Marg, claiming it to be a "modified Raja Yoga", and even claiming the the other systems have "breathe their last", to be replaced by "Sahaj Marg", as the only true path (they claim) ...
Do you endorse this statement by Babuji?

Letter from Ram Chandra of Shahjahanpur:
Epitome of Sahaj Marg, by Dean of NaqshMuMRa, grandson of Lalaji: (or see here or here)

Thank you and Blessings on you and your family...

Don..



Dr. R.K. Gupta's reply:


From: rkgupta (address blanked out)
To: don
Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 9:34 PM
Subject: Re: correction...

Dear Mr. don,

Thanks for your mail.

There is a lot of substance in what you have said, as some people have forgotten about the roots. No matter by whatever name one may call it, it is only through the grace of great Masters that they have achieved what they claim to be their own.

Kind Regards,

RKGupta



Don's Reply:


From:
don
To: R.K.Gupta
Sent: Fri, 22 January, 2010 1:25:11 PM
Subject: Re: correction...


Mr RK Gupta..
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I feel that publishing your reply to my queery may help clarify or re-elucidate for my readers, the "direction" and the depth of Lalaji's teachings as opposed to the teachings of some others who call themselves his "followers" and from his "lineage". Some having met Lalaji but a few times and some not at all, they still seem to speak and teach a different teaching, relate a different history and claim his lineage without his permission in "REALITY", except in dreams, even claiming to having knowledge (or hearsay?) that Lalaji had "no master", which we now know to be erroneous thanks to sites like yours.

Do I have your permission to publish your e-mail reply, along with these exchanges, on my blog?

Thanks

Don...


Dr. R.K. Gupta's reply:

From:
rkgupta (address blanked out)
To:don
Sent: January 22, 2010 12:06 AM
Subject: Re: correction...

Dear Mr. Don,

Thanks for your mail again.
You may go ahead with publishing my reply on your blog if you so wish.

With Kind Regards,

RKGupta





Quotes by Lalaji (taken according to Rajan-ex abhyasis of SRCM (California-1997) from a current member of Chari's clan!
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See how Lalaji's Sufi path differs from the Sahaj Marg and the attitude of Chari and his disciples!! Remember, Lalaji had 212 disciples in all, so he could give personal attention to all, unlike the "MacDonald's" (fast food) or the Amway (pyramid scheme) Mass marketing, multi-layered approach of SRCM (California-1997) under Chari and his Management team of Businessmen! ... As the Master of SRCM (California-1997) is out developing the business, the preceptors are "transmitting" whatever !! "Divine" they call it!! If Lalaji's method of meditation was as "great" as the great man himself, remember that he did not use the "Sahaj Marg" of Babuji as his "Method" and had nothing to do with the creation of the Shri Ram Chandra Mission !!


Lalaji's Birth day celebrations during Feb. 2010


My Dear Brothers n Sisters,

I would like to enlighten you about Lalaji's Teachings :

1) Never offer advice unless invited, otherwise it is likely to yield bad results.
2) If you find any fault with anybody, pray for his freedom from it.
3) Don't purchase a new thing if you can manage to carry on with your old belonging.
4) A slave of women and a greedy person could never perform acts of Paramartha.
5) The inner and outer condition of an abyasi have to be the same.

6) Spiritual perfection to be based on three things :
1) Love for the master
2) Satsangh with the master.
3) Obedience to the master.

7) The real sadhana is to balance the mind.
8) Avoid becoming a master and serve as a servant should.
9) Avoid the company of the rich, women and children. (It seems that Sufism is meant for adult men only... Babuji also did not want dogs (animals) and children around the meditation rooms and halls)
10) You have only to remove the doubt whether God and Atma exist or not. If you have freed yourself of this, you need not have a Guru.
11) The search for God and soul is natural and this is imbecility. This fantasy can be cured by another fantasy who is Guru.
12) Atheist is not a person who does not believe in God. Those who harm the physical, mental, intellectual and spiritual existence are atheists. (How does one not harm the physical when one eats and assimilates or transforms the physical? Plants have feelings too, and are said to experience pain, and fear, according to recent research)

Contd.....