Thank you to Alexis for a copy of this interview of Chari in France, 01/06/2008
You will surely notice the "love" and "uniting" qualities of this self-appointed Master of Spirituality of SRCM(California), registered in 1997 in San Luis Obispo, California, USA. and it's "trade marked" commercial product: SAHAJ MARG.
(translation by author, using Google Translate)
PROVISIONAL translation of informal exchanges
between Chariji and an abhyasi of SRCM (California)
On 01/06/2008 at Guy Joris (France)
ON MUSIC...
Abhyasi: Master does one play the violin without emotion?
Chari: Stay in constant remembrance, think of the Master. Simply do so, regardless of notes and effects. The music in Europe is too strict, it lacks freedom, is too concerned with effects, it is not music, but comedy.
Freedom, freedom, one can not applaud when one wants to applaud, everything is calculated.
A: What happens to my project of mixing styles of music?
C: Do not mix, let the heart play. We should not write music... that is the first mistake.
A: And if one takes oriental instruments to play Western music?
C: You will ruin the oriental music. With our flutists, only the skeleton is there. The skeleton, and on top of that, God creates people, Jacky, this girl, this woman. So the skeleton must be there but what do you have? A piece of opera, Schuman, and the conductor is important, but what does he in fact do?
A: Not much
C: Nothing at all. We did not need him at all. And what's more, he earns more money than everyone. That's a comedy. The same music composed by the same man, with two different conductors, one sells more than the other, I do not know. Guy is a good musician. I asked him what was the difference. He said, but Chariji, he is such a good conductor. Wonderful! Wonderful! My opinion is personal.
A: But you say that to conduct a satsangh, we need a leader, a Conductor.
C: Do you not see the difference? That's why I do not listen to classical music. Before I loved it, but it is always the same thing. I can listen to a raga 50 times and it is always different. A raga has a base but that's all, no conductor. That's why jazz is not very popular you see, because with jazz we forget the people who watch, then why not the same thing with opera.
A: Tell me about a music that elevates the soul.
C: Some Indian music, or for the Germans, some pieces by Mozart. The music must come from the soul. There is the so-called Sufi music, one listens to it and falls asleep. It is not known what it is, the soul, and we do not know what a music that comes from the soul is.
That it is Sufi means nothing. I can scream and my dog and other dogs think that it's music. So music is not even a topic that we can talk about with Westerners (occidentals). I express very strong opinions when I speak with abhyasis. And even your dances you know, they are not natural.
A: One puts rules and mathematics everywhere.
C: Yes everywhere, and too much. And not enough soul, even in meditation. Last night I was reflecting on the difficulties of Westerners and the facilities of the Orientals. I've come to a conclusion based on my reflections, in the Western world you have masters in the arts, crafts, engineering, etc.. all external things. You have masters of everything, electricity, plumbing, music, kitchen. He is a cordon bleu. You do not know the importance of things in relation to each other. Is the food so important that a great chef is paid 20,000 euros per month, it is nonsense. Besides a scientist will only be paid 10,000 euros per month. Does this show the real importance of each thing? Schumacher, No. 1, what is his income, millions of dollars per year. He is like a dog running in a circle behind a bitch that he never gets to touch.
And the tennis players, they earn 10, 15, 20 million, why? Of course tennis is important and is good for the body but nothing else. In the Outside World, there is no relationship between what is important and this is not really, and the more you mix what is really important and what is apparently important, you pay a tennis player 30 million and a professor of science 3000 dollars. And a good cook because she can make a sauce, bismillah, really what a sauce, chutney in India, one should pay for chutney, not for the stove. So you see, everything is reversed in Europe and in the West. You have too many masters. In the East we are not concerned with the outside world, there are enough stupid people to do that for us. One goes inside, one is gone inside our whole life, since hundreds of years. It is a very difficult world. Here one can become an engineer, a banker if one has the education, but may be he does not know the difference between 10 euros and 1 euro because he uses a computer for that. In one billion, how many zeroes are there? 6. But here we will calculate 1 equals 3 power 10 power 4...oh no is that 6 or 9? So in the East one has very few masters. The inner world is not tangible, you can not feel it. You have too many masters on too many topics, including tennis, football. In the East there is only one subject, but it is a matter not only very difficult to understand but it is also infinite. Here you build a radio and you do what with it?... you listen, and that's it. In the inner world there is no end, the master continues and continues. In the Western spirit, you usually start something and it ends, the beginning and the end, Monday to Friday, then holidays, in spirituality there is no holiday, it is always and every day. There is no end. Hence the book by Babuji, Towards Infinity.
Chari's SRCM (California) MISSION in EUROPE
A: But do you think the mission is increasing in Europe
C: Yes it is growing because people who are able to understand are more numerous. In the material world, it is easy. But also in the material world when one goes to the smallest, it is infinite, there are molecules and atoms, the nucleus, the particles. To find them, we need larger and more larger machines. So, to reach the least one needs the more. In the interior, to reach the more, we need less. What does one need, one must eliminate all our exterior attention on girls, food, God, and reduce everything to arrive to one attention, interior, and that's it. So you see, there are too many masters of the outside world, everything is tangible, may be touched, felt. In the spiritual world, it is always less and less, and less. It is not known how much progress is being made, where it begins and where it ends.
A: It's hard to follow you because one must live in this world and earn money
C: No no it's not difficult for you, it's difficult for me. You come, you meditate and you say Chari is useless, since 20 years he comes and I have not changed. . But this is not my fault... is it my fault? It is your fault because you are wasting all your energy to make music. I will not play perhaps as well as you, but in three days I can play something. What can you do in meditation? You're only capable of mastering the outside world, and you do not know what to do with your inner world. You do not want to obey the teacher, you say that you are free, France is the country of freedom, equality, fraternity. The freedom to do that which is bad, not to be disciplined, marrying many times to have a lot of sentimental adventures. And what equality, you killed a queen because she was born like that, you murdered her, and you make an annual celebration on the 14th of July. The pride of the french, this is your freedom, equality, fraternity. And poor Marie Antoinette, killed. It's your idea of equality and fraternity. And brotherhood exists when there is wine to drink and you are drunk. You can have this kind freedom equality and fraternity. In spirituality there is only one equality, the soul. It is always the same and it is immortal, eternal, and every soul is equal to another. But you want the physical equality. The freedom of the soul is eternal. My soul is trapped in my body and the body has 5 senses, it wants kissing, touching, to do so many things, eat, drink. And the freedom of the french tells them they can drink, Chari. Ok drink, exercise your freedom and you'll come back over and over until you understand that this is not true freedom. They are your desires that make you come back, it is not God.
There was a body buried in a garden in Malaysia, and every Saturday we put in the tomb 6 bottles of beer in case the ghost came and would have liked to drink. So many attachments. It is a true story. And if they did not do this, there were problems at home, windows banging, things falling over. What to do, there are so many attachments that even without a body to benefit from our desires. Too many desires pass from the body into the soul, or rather in the ghost that remains in the corner looking for pizza or something else. And even if the body is dead, the ghost continues to want the pizza. And it affects all the pizzerias that double-close their doors.
Finally a priest comes, and if the priest is capable it works. Babuji said choose a master who knows his work and when you find him, attach yourself to him because you're the idiot who risks to let everything fall, it is not the teacher who will let you down.
ON the WEST (France)
A: So if I'm really focused, nothing in my life will affect me?
C: Nothing. This is the difference between East and West. Here there are too many masters. A person took a 3 day course to learn raiki she comes to see me to try to heal me. She wants me cured with a course of three days. You have courses that last a few days or weeks. When I was a boy, I wanted to do Yoga. I was not allowed to enter because all the girls were in skintights and it was unaffordable. But I instinctively knew that I had to do something in relation to yoga. To become really succeed at meditation, forget your Western ideas on skills, degrees, masters. You will not be a master carpenter, but a teacher who was also a carpenter before. But you are going to make me believe that a master carpenter is also a master in meditation? You can guarantee everything but you can not guarantee the brain of a brilliant man. We can not guarantee the spirituality of a man. When you go to Paris, there are so many streets and avenues named after Napoleon's generals. You glorify the war. Where are the old philosophers, I do not know if they exist, or they appoint a sports stadium (in their honour) somewhere.
So spirituality should be getting rid of everything. That is what I had to say to you today, all these thoughts that I have. Why are the East and the West so different? The difference is in the heart, not in the brain. The same soul, the same heart. One does need to have a Eastern or a Western heart, but a loving heart. Why does the East and the West not join?
THE EAST vs THE WEST
A: Samskaras?
C: No it's like saying why is he black or why is he white, samskaras... it is not it. It is the quality of the heart. We make our own universe which is a world of fantasy, and there we live and there we are happy. There is a beautiful film about a woman who takes her two children to school, and everybody dies. The husband goes to hell to bring back his family. And he finds his wife living in a beautiful and happy house at the bottom of hell and it has great difficulty in making her leave again. That's love. Babuji said we have to learn so much about the quality of life but at some moment we must get to the bottom of hell to be able to emerge. If a man climbs a tree and can not climb back down, he can jump. But if there is a precipice of three hundred meters and someone falls, it will be very difficult to go look for him. So going to hell requires a master. And a total love for the other. In this society we do believe in the outcome of production, a pen, a car, a performance, appearance, comfort, the best car for the best boss, and we forget the environment. One goes outward to meet one's pride, our desires, our attraction to material goods, and still more and more. In spirituality it is increasingly less and less. It seems simple that is why it is so difficult.
Enough for today. Thank you for coming with this weather, this rain. In my time with my master at Shahjahanpur, it was raining forever. I slept in the water without feeling uncomfortable or unfortunate, and I slept well because I thought of my master. Here one must have thick mattresses, and one of your most beautiful stories is that of the princess and the pea. With a pea under her 7 mattress she could not sleep. What will happen when they sleep with a husband who taps her with his knees and elbows in his sleep, and bad breath. I do not know how European women sleep with their husbands because most have bad breath. I'm afraid when people come and talk to me, I turn my head, I tell the truth.
The attachment is in the head, love is in the heart. I like this tree but I'm not going to cut it and bring it to Madras. My knowledge of the material world tells me that if it is a living thing, I must not take it. I can not take but dead things. I can take a stick, but not a dog or a songbird, it does not sing in a cage. We must behave as if we were dead to this world. The world belongs to God, not to us. If you remember that, you will not harm nature. Guy has a gardener for 300 euros per month. to take care of his garden. But this world can take care of itself. I read a book by a German philosopher. And on the first page there are 4 lines, the name of the highest mountain (he names a place), all men can take in a suitcae of a square kilometre, the suitcase is placed on top of the mountain, and made to grow (is planted), and the valley grass turns green forever. Nature can take care of itself. Nature takes care of us. In the vedas, there are poems, may all things prosper, grass, birds, flowers, jungle, and this is the first verse that has been on the ecology of nature, and that applies to our life. We suffer because our rivers and oceans are polluted, the air is polluted, by whom? Westerners.
A: China and India are contributing a lot.
C: Not only the smoke. The largest air pollutant are the sprays, aerosols. And every year there are resolutions to stop them, but always stop them in a few years, they always push back the dates, now they say they will stop in 2010 but in 2009 they will say 2050. The sole purpose is to make the money they give to politicians, politicians give the voters. We don't want to kill more whales but Japan continues and sends the entire world walking. Why does America not fire on the boats of the whaling fishermen? They go well into Afghanistan, Iraq, only because they want oil. Their policy is only based on their interest. Why is Europe united with it?
A: To be stronger
C: To be stronger militarily and politically. That is why many countries lack confidence. This is not for freedom or equality, it is for personal interest. People continue to hate. Denmark has kept its currency, England too. It is with such people, one likes the lips of the girl one will kiss, and the other, he loves her nose. In films you see a perfect girl, and boys want a girl like that. In reality, legs belong to another girl and it is a (special effects) production. Every part of the girl is from a different girl. This is not at all reality. We live a life filled with physical material wealth, beautiful lamps, nice curtains, mattresses, and the surrounding... nothing, no sleep, one takes more and more pills. Maybe in 20 years a businessman will buy this house and destroy the garden. The trees took 350 years to grow and everything can be cut to 35 minutes.
And nobody will say that these trees were beautiful because they will sell everything for apartments, and earn 30 million euros. How important are these trees. The West must give up this life and this material attachments, because you can lead a comfortable life but the attachment must leave.
THE Chari SOLUTION
A: How to get there?
C: It's very easy. First stop asking how things are called. What is it? A pancake. Oh a pancake,very impressive. What is this pizza? Mushrooms. Snails, Frogs. One starts loving the name and not the thing. A man tastes the wine and decides the price. From Beaujolais, 60 euros a bottle, rum 27 euros a bottle, is always alcohol. From beaujolais of 1967, ahhhhhhhhhhhhh 3000 euros the bottle. Someone won in an auction one of the older wines for $ 2 million. I do not know if they drank it or if they have kept for 2000 years or for resale. The things of value are never used. Recently they sold a diamond at auction at Christies to the highest price ever paid for a diamond. One day I wanted to go as Vivekananda on a trek on foot for a month by myself. I told it to Babuji, I want to take 5 rupees and leave for one month, he mocked me... take the train. Babuji cut this desire. I never left, I was afraid.
A: And the commitment vis-à-vis the people?
C: Babuji said there was no love between people. There is only dependence, friendship, commitment. Nothing else. Saying that one loves his wife is a lie. If you loved your wives there would be no divorces. You can not teach people to love. We can teach them how to make love but it should be natural. One day I had a long discussion with a married couple from a religion I do not want to name, and the man asked me what my teacher said that is not already in the book of his religion. I asked what his book talked about. He said everything about life, including how to make love. I said sir, you need a prophet for that. He blushed. The philosophy is in the books, not in life. There are so many philosophers who have become insane. In the East it is not possible that a philosopher becomes insane. Because a Master can not commit suicide or become insane.
HOMOSEXUALITY AND AIDS (Compassion?, Love?, acceptance? Tolerance?))
A: When will you go to Africa?
C: Why do you want me to go to Africa. I work according to the orders I receive from my master If he goes to France I come here. If he says why you spend three days eating well with Guy, I'm finished.
I was with Babuji in Rome, at the Vatican and the former pope was there. An old man very sick, very tired, he blessed the people in three languages, and finally he said something that made many people angry, he said he will offer a special prayer for people who have AIDS.
I was angry, I said why AIDS? Why not diabetes or legs broken, and not AIDS which is a disease that should not be accepted nor tolerated in any way. Many abhyasis told me that I have no heart when I say that. I said too bad I have no heart because if I had a heart I could not work. At the beginning of my spiritual life, I gave my heart to my master. And now I can only work with my head.
If he says no sitting I give no sitting, I must obey the orders, you know. When I told Babuji what was in the pope's prayer he was also surprised. The religious leaders can pray for a specific group. In India our prayer is "may all be happy and healthy everywhere." One prays not for whites, African, Chinese… this is not like that. May all be happy people everywhere.
Thank you brothers and sisters
Thursday, August 28, 2008
Take the False Guru Test
Taken from: The Energy Grid Alternative Magazine
I only include the numbers that, in my opinion, obviously matches Babuji in a few cases and Chari, of SRCM (California) in many cases, directly and in some cases, indirectly. See "here" for the complete list. See how many FIT your GURU directly and/or indirectly (i.e. Chari making claims for Babuji and Lalaji and then claiming to be their "successor")
TAKE THE FALSE GURU TEST. If seven or more of the following describes your guru or spiritual teacher, then unfortunately he or she may not be be as enlightened or good for your soul as you would like to believe:
1. States his or her own enlightenment: The wisest masters tend not to state their own enlightenment or perfection for they know that it is both unhelpful to themselves and to their students. The false teachers often make this claim because they have little else on offer to attract followers.
In the case of SRCM, the current Guru of the SRCM (California) schism, makes claims of the "enlightenment" of his Guru (the "Special Personality") and even makes claims of being his "successor". When the Founder's society Board of Directors (SRCM Shahjahanpur) did not agree, Chari registered the same name in the USA and placed himself as President and Spiritual Successor of Babuji, the Founder of Sahaj Marg. He also registered a "trade mark" for SAHAJ MARG. Chari claims to be the succesor of Babuji...Babuji claims to be the successor of Lalaji. Both are disputed by the "founders society", and have been the cause of "schisms". Lalaji has his legitimate successor and society (Ramashram). And Babuji's family (SRCM Shahjahanpur), and KC Narayana of the break-away Institute of Ram Chandra Consciousness-ISRC, dispute Chari's claims of being Babuji's "Spiritual Successor" and challenge the legitimacy of SRCM(California), registered in 1997 in San Luis Obispo, California, in the USA.
2. Is unable to take criticism: False teachers strongly dislike either personal criticism or criticism of their teaching; they do not take kindly to ordinary unenlightened individuals questioning them. They or their organisations will even undertake multi-million dollar law suits to stop ex-members from spilling the beans.
Chari, in his book: "He, the Hookah and I", calls ex-abhyasis who criticise him and his "management team", and even some who have attempted to salvage some of the good parts of Sahaj Marg by opening a free and open dialogue on their blogs, of being the "enemies of spirituality". And the SRCM (California) "management team" sent out a "decree" that abhyasis were not to read the blogs, then in Mar. 18, 2007, they reversed that failed policy because of it's failure, not because of its lack of morality or ethics.
3. Acts omnipotently with no accountability: Some spiritual communities are run like concentration camps, with guru and his chosen ones acting like Gestapo officers. Unjust or outrageous behaviour by the guru is passed off as what is needed to help the followers grow (how kind). These are the dangerous gurus who have often severely damaged their students. A real master respects your will even if he or she understands that your particular decisions may not be in your interest, and he or she will act accountably to an ethical code of conduct.
Sahaj Marg demands that the abhysi's will be subject to the will of the Master and that the disciple become as a "living dead" in the hands of a funeral director. Arranged Marriages! Stand against Homosexuality as being "un-natural"! Claim and teaching to children that "GOD IS MALE" and women can't be Masters in SRCM (California), because they are not "destructive" enough. When asked for clarification, Chari said in an e-mail that the Master did work of destruction on a "cosmic level". (e-mail available on demand). It begs the question: Which part of the COSMOS does the Master of SRCM(California) destroy? Is SRCM(California) Apocalyptic? Read here and you decide
4. Focuses on enlightenment itself rather than teaching the path leading to it: It is amazing how much false gurus have to say about enlightenment. They argue their points in the same way that the scholars in the middle ages argued how many angels could sit on the head of a pin. Any fool can talk about the end goal because what is said is irrefutable to most of your listeners. What is skillful is guiding those listeners to having awakening within themselves. The real teacher focuses on the path and strictly avoids any talk on enlightenment.
At Sahaj Marg, it is called The GOAL! Chari says: Sahaj Marg has no philosophy according to Chari. The path is "obedience" and "surrender" to the 3M's of SRCM (California), the Master, the Mission and the Method. The good disciple will be like a "living dead" in the hands of a funeral director and will be able to kill without emotions like a "soldier". The really good disciple can even "kill his mother" if asked by the GURU.
5. Does not practice what is preached: Contrary to spiritual myth, you don't reach a point of realization whereby you can then start acting mindlessly. If a teacher preaches love and forgiveness, then he should act that way, at least most of the time, showing suitable regret for any lapses). If he teaches meditation, he should meditate. If he insists that his followers live in austere conditions, so should he.
Too many incidents of not practicing what is preached to list here. Love, inclusion and acceptance of "homosexuals" would be the most obvious. Calling ex-abhyasis "enemies of spirituality", and calling other religions such as "catholics" are called "liars", all religions are called "corrupt and promoting violence and war, and the "role of women who can't become "masters of SRCM, would be the other obvious examples. Why can't women be Masters, really? And where does the evidence lie for the statement that "homosexuality" is "un-natural"? Do your research before joining.
6. Takes the credit for a particular meditative or healing technique: The fact is that meditation and guided visualisation work. Anyone doing them will experience major changes, benefits and realizations. The false guru will try to own or trademark particular methods and techniques so that she has something unique to attract followers. And she will hijack the effects of meditation as the guru's blessing rather than each individuals natural potential. Often the students or followers are forbidden from divulging the techniques to maintain a sort of intellectual property right, usually under the guise of needing the technique to be taught correctly.
False claim that Transmission is UNIQUE to Sahaj Marg and was originated by "Lalaji". Babuji claimed that he became Lalaji's successor in a dream, 13 years after Lalaji's death, even though he only met him a few times, was never a preceptor or a member of Lalaji's organization, which still functions independent of SRCM (Shahjahanpur), was registered in 1945 in India. SRCM (Calfiornia) of Chari, registered in 1997, in the USA calls it's meditation "Sahaj Marg" and has registered it as a commercial "trade mark". Sahaj Marg is now a commercial "product", owned by SRCM (California) and it's current self-appointed Master, Chari.
8. Lives in total opulence: There is nothing wrong with living in luxury or being wealthy. But when that luxury turns to unnecessary opulence using funds that were not explicitly donated for that purpose then you are probably dealing with a false guru. Money is collected from followers usually in the form of donations, and those donations are given as an act of love, appreciation and to help spread the influence of the master. However, a genuine master is more likely to use such wealth to lessen the suffering in this world, not to buy another yacht, private jet or Rolls Royce.
Many complaints of favouring and appointing the "Brahmin sect", the wealthy, etc.. Spends much time in Dubai and in Mauritius, resort in the Indian Ocean. Favours the chosen "wealthy" with the "non-profit" percs such as travel, free admittance, food, etc...Notice the "golden lions" and the marble in the ashrams and schools (14 ft ceilings in classroom according to Chari).
9. Encourages or permits adoration from his followers: Avoid any group that focuses on the "master" themselves rather than the teachings or spiritual practices. This will be a hindrance to your self-realisation for your focus will be drawn outside of yourself, and usually indicates that there is not a lot more on offer than guru worship.
Not only adoration but total "obedience" and surrender to the point of "killing the mother" if asked, simply to show obedience. All responsibility for the actions of the disciple are with the Master, in SRCM(California). The will of the abhuasi will be subject to the will of the Master.
10. Presents himself or herself overly fashionably and glamorously: Beware of masters who present glamour photographs of themselves and dress overly fashionably (whilst proclaiming that they have no ego and leading ego-death retreats). Yes it does happen!
The Guru attire and the "golf cart" is "in vogue" with Chari. He is no "Mahatma Ghandi" and does not renounce the Material pleasures even as the poor are dying all around. There is no reduction of "carbon footprint" in Sahaj Marg, even to save the Planet. To find God, Abhyasis travel around the world, following Chari.
11. Demands love and devotion from their students: Keep clear of any master who demands love and devotion. One very well known Western guru stated, "Anyone who loves me is guaranteed enlightenment"! Real love and devotion is earned over time when we begin to really know the whole person and not their public image.
IN SPADES!!
15. Flatters you and treats you as very special: Sure we are all special in some ways, but this is one of the things that a false guru may do to hook a potential follower or to get a current follower to do a particular task. Nothing can be more intoxicating to the ego than to be selected by the master or leader (or any high profile person). A real master will stand back and allow you to make your decision whether to accept his or her teachings without trying to influence the process.
The flattery is with "titles" and "volunteer positions" with no power in the hope of being "favoured" by a look at the GURU. The no-power "titles" all have to do with gathering new members, and/or the menial duties of food, cleaning, or "volunteering" in all the functions of the Mission, which the "serf" is said to "own", but can't vote or have any decision-making power.
16. Talks bollocks: It is surprising what a person will listen to when he or she is devoted to the speaker. It is always a good idea to get hold of a written transcript of what has been said and really read the message. Then tell an open-minded friend who is not a follower what their opinion is purely on the strength of the words. You will soon find out whether there is any real substance to the teacher's message, or whether you are merely being drawn in by the charisma of the messenger.
Read some of his interviews and speeches...I will put a recent one as the next article on this blog.
17. Overly relies on slick presentation: Slick presentation can often mask poor content, and so it is important for you to look past the lovely music and video shows at the actual message. The slicker the presentation, the harder it is to see what exactly the teaching is.
18. Gives him or herself outrageous titles: Not satisfied by being "merely" an enlightened being, many false gurus give themselves titles (or allow their followers to do so) to indicate that they are literally God-Incarnate, the reincarnation of the Buddha or Christ, or THE chosen one. Some continually change their names, to keep pace with their burgeoning egos.
SRCM (California) and others call Ram Chandra, the founder of Sahaj Marg, the "Special Personality", a title he made up himself. Chari calls himself a "master of HUMANITY"
20. Is not interested in you personally: If a teacher or guru does not have time to interact with you personally, then you may as well read his teaching from a book, because merely being in his presence doesn't help you find realization inside you. You may model some of his spiritual characteristics, but that often only places you deeper in illusion.
Good luck!!
21. Allows his followers to set up a hierarchy of access: A guru must be accessible. If he is not, or if he allows his followers to block your access, then he is playing the role of a king and not a spiritual guide. A guru is only useful to the process of awakening if you can directly interact with him.
This is SRCM (California) to a tee.
22. Makes false claims of lineage: Many mistakenly believe that realisation can only happen under the guidance of a realized master. In this belief system, gurus are only authentic when they come from a line or lineage of realized gurus. Desperate not to be left out, some gurus claim a false lineage of enlightened masters to bolster their authority to teach. Another pseudo form of "lineage" is to recount a miracle that once happened to them (maybe they cured themselves of some disease or God spoke to them personally) which infers that they are "chosen" and therefore have the authority to set themselves up as teachers and gurus.
Read the History of Sahaj Marg in the Sahaj Marg Project for a revealing expose of the REAL history of Shri Ram Chandra Mission. This is very different from "official" party version and is corroborated by other groups and authoritative individuals. The research is exhaustive and has been quoted by others since it was released.
23. Presents themselves as non-profit whilst raking in the millions: Often, the false prophet will present her teachings for free, whilst strongly encouraging her devotees to make large donations. In this way she can appear above money considerations, whilst maintaining her greed and opulence.
Donations to SRCM (California) have reached the "million" level, by Indian supporters of the Chamber of Commerce of India, Diaspora Project in the so-called "corrupt" west.
24. Collects a large band of angry ex-followers: This is an indication that something is seriously wrong. If she has used kindness and love in her interactions with her students, and has discouraged them from projecting denied spiritual characteristics onto the guru (rather than encouraging their integration into the self), then it is extremely unlikely that there would be more than a few disheartened ex's. Many might drift away and feel they have wasted their time, but they are only likely to have the great anger if they have put their teacher on a pedestal, given him their power, and later realized that he was never worthy of such adoration. Contrary to what some believe, it is actually the teacher's responsibility to strongly discourage students from putting them on pedestals, for this is counterproductive to finding realisation inside.
There are currently enough blogs to cause the "management team" much concern. If one phone call from an "unsatisfied customer" means that there are at least 10 unsatisfied customers who don't phone, and if one letter of complaint means that there are 100 unsatisfied customers who don't write, then one blog means that there are at least over 1,000 unsatisfied ex-disciples of SRCM out there. And that is not counting the many "schisms" and their disciples, such as KC Narayana's ISRC, and SRCM (Shahjahanpur), the original society registered in India in 1945 and still controlled by the Founder's grandson, Navneet Kumar Saxena.
26. Acts like a complete paranoid mad person: If your Precious One acts like a complete paranoid schizophrenic or psychotic then he or she probably is. Run! Remember that there is no such thing as "crazy wisdom"—wisdom is the art of being balanced. However charismatic they may be, and sane between moments of madness, you WILL be damaged by them.
In the case of SRCM, beside the paranoia exhibited by Babuji (see Autobiography of Ram Chandra) , one can add: megalomania, apocalyptic, spiritualist. To ask your follower to be as "living dead in the hands of a funeral director" is certainly not healthy or "normal", does not encourage taking responsibility for one's actions, and displays an autoritarianism that can be called "megalomaniacal". The SRCM relationship is typically "co-dependent". Is SRCM (California) Apocalyptic? Read here and decide. Chari expects and "anticipates" that the USA will break up and SRCM (California) has registered its Sahaj Marg Research and Teaching Institute (SMRTI) in Austin Texas. They have also purchased a 28 acre ranch or "retreat" they call "SPURS" (an instrument of pain, for a group that promotes vegetarianism) outside of Austin, Texas.
I only include the numbers that, in my opinion, obviously matches Babuji in a few cases and Chari, of SRCM (California) in many cases, directly and in some cases, indirectly. See "here" for the complete list. See how many FIT your GURU directly and/or indirectly (i.e. Chari making claims for Babuji and Lalaji and then claiming to be their "successor")
TAKE THE FALSE GURU TEST. If seven or more of the following describes your guru or spiritual teacher, then unfortunately he or she may not be be as enlightened or good for your soul as you would like to believe:
1. States his or her own enlightenment: The wisest masters tend not to state their own enlightenment or perfection for they know that it is both unhelpful to themselves and to their students. The false teachers often make this claim because they have little else on offer to attract followers.
In the case of SRCM, the current Guru of the SRCM (California) schism, makes claims of the "enlightenment" of his Guru (the "Special Personality") and even makes claims of being his "successor". When the Founder's society Board of Directors (SRCM Shahjahanpur) did not agree, Chari registered the same name in the USA and placed himself as President and Spiritual Successor of Babuji, the Founder of Sahaj Marg. He also registered a "trade mark" for SAHAJ MARG. Chari claims to be the succesor of Babuji...Babuji claims to be the successor of Lalaji. Both are disputed by the "founders society", and have been the cause of "schisms". Lalaji has his legitimate successor and society (Ramashram). And Babuji's family (SRCM Shahjahanpur), and KC Narayana of the break-away Institute of Ram Chandra Consciousness-ISRC, dispute Chari's claims of being Babuji's "Spiritual Successor" and challenge the legitimacy of SRCM(California), registered in 1997 in San Luis Obispo, California, in the USA.
2. Is unable to take criticism: False teachers strongly dislike either personal criticism or criticism of their teaching; they do not take kindly to ordinary unenlightened individuals questioning them. They or their organisations will even undertake multi-million dollar law suits to stop ex-members from spilling the beans.
Chari, in his book: "He, the Hookah and I", calls ex-abhyasis who criticise him and his "management team", and even some who have attempted to salvage some of the good parts of Sahaj Marg by opening a free and open dialogue on their blogs, of being the "enemies of spirituality". And the SRCM (California) "management team" sent out a "decree" that abhyasis were not to read the blogs, then in Mar. 18, 2007, they reversed that failed policy because of it's failure, not because of its lack of morality or ethics.
3. Acts omnipotently with no accountability: Some spiritual communities are run like concentration camps, with guru and his chosen ones acting like Gestapo officers. Unjust or outrageous behaviour by the guru is passed off as what is needed to help the followers grow (how kind). These are the dangerous gurus who have often severely damaged their students. A real master respects your will even if he or she understands that your particular decisions may not be in your interest, and he or she will act accountably to an ethical code of conduct.
Sahaj Marg demands that the abhysi's will be subject to the will of the Master and that the disciple become as a "living dead" in the hands of a funeral director. Arranged Marriages! Stand against Homosexuality as being "un-natural"! Claim and teaching to children that "GOD IS MALE" and women can't be Masters in SRCM (California), because they are not "destructive" enough. When asked for clarification, Chari said in an e-mail that the Master did work of destruction on a "cosmic level". (e-mail available on demand). It begs the question: Which part of the COSMOS does the Master of SRCM(California) destroy? Is SRCM(California) Apocalyptic? Read here and you decide
4. Focuses on enlightenment itself rather than teaching the path leading to it: It is amazing how much false gurus have to say about enlightenment. They argue their points in the same way that the scholars in the middle ages argued how many angels could sit on the head of a pin. Any fool can talk about the end goal because what is said is irrefutable to most of your listeners. What is skillful is guiding those listeners to having awakening within themselves. The real teacher focuses on the path and strictly avoids any talk on enlightenment.
At Sahaj Marg, it is called The GOAL! Chari says: Sahaj Marg has no philosophy according to Chari. The path is "obedience" and "surrender" to the 3M's of SRCM (California), the Master, the Mission and the Method. The good disciple will be like a "living dead" in the hands of a funeral director and will be able to kill without emotions like a "soldier". The really good disciple can even "kill his mother" if asked by the GURU.
5. Does not practice what is preached: Contrary to spiritual myth, you don't reach a point of realization whereby you can then start acting mindlessly. If a teacher preaches love and forgiveness, then he should act that way, at least most of the time, showing suitable regret for any lapses). If he teaches meditation, he should meditate. If he insists that his followers live in austere conditions, so should he.
Too many incidents of not practicing what is preached to list here. Love, inclusion and acceptance of "homosexuals" would be the most obvious. Calling ex-abhyasis "enemies of spirituality", and calling other religions such as "catholics" are called "liars", all religions are called "corrupt and promoting violence and war, and the "role of women who can't become "masters of SRCM, would be the other obvious examples. Why can't women be Masters, really? And where does the evidence lie for the statement that "homosexuality" is "un-natural"? Do your research before joining.
6. Takes the credit for a particular meditative or healing technique: The fact is that meditation and guided visualisation work. Anyone doing them will experience major changes, benefits and realizations. The false guru will try to own or trademark particular methods and techniques so that she has something unique to attract followers. And she will hijack the effects of meditation as the guru's blessing rather than each individuals natural potential. Often the students or followers are forbidden from divulging the techniques to maintain a sort of intellectual property right, usually under the guise of needing the technique to be taught correctly.
False claim that Transmission is UNIQUE to Sahaj Marg and was originated by "Lalaji". Babuji claimed that he became Lalaji's successor in a dream, 13 years after Lalaji's death, even though he only met him a few times, was never a preceptor or a member of Lalaji's organization, which still functions independent of SRCM (Shahjahanpur), was registered in 1945 in India. SRCM (Calfiornia) of Chari, registered in 1997, in the USA calls it's meditation "Sahaj Marg" and has registered it as a commercial "trade mark". Sahaj Marg is now a commercial "product", owned by SRCM (California) and it's current self-appointed Master, Chari.
8. Lives in total opulence: There is nothing wrong with living in luxury or being wealthy. But when that luxury turns to unnecessary opulence using funds that were not explicitly donated for that purpose then you are probably dealing with a false guru. Money is collected from followers usually in the form of donations, and those donations are given as an act of love, appreciation and to help spread the influence of the master. However, a genuine master is more likely to use such wealth to lessen the suffering in this world, not to buy another yacht, private jet or Rolls Royce.
Many complaints of favouring and appointing the "Brahmin sect", the wealthy, etc.. Spends much time in Dubai and in Mauritius, resort in the Indian Ocean. Favours the chosen "wealthy" with the "non-profit" percs such as travel, free admittance, food, etc...Notice the "golden lions" and the marble in the ashrams and schools (14 ft ceilings in classroom according to Chari).
9. Encourages or permits adoration from his followers: Avoid any group that focuses on the "master" themselves rather than the teachings or spiritual practices. This will be a hindrance to your self-realisation for your focus will be drawn outside of yourself, and usually indicates that there is not a lot more on offer than guru worship.
Not only adoration but total "obedience" and surrender to the point of "killing the mother" if asked, simply to show obedience. All responsibility for the actions of the disciple are with the Master, in SRCM(California). The will of the abhuasi will be subject to the will of the Master.
10. Presents himself or herself overly fashionably and glamorously: Beware of masters who present glamour photographs of themselves and dress overly fashionably (whilst proclaiming that they have no ego and leading ego-death retreats). Yes it does happen!
The Guru attire and the "golf cart" is "in vogue" with Chari. He is no "Mahatma Ghandi" and does not renounce the Material pleasures even as the poor are dying all around. There is no reduction of "carbon footprint" in Sahaj Marg, even to save the Planet. To find God, Abhyasis travel around the world, following Chari.
11. Demands love and devotion from their students: Keep clear of any master who demands love and devotion. One very well known Western guru stated, "Anyone who loves me is guaranteed enlightenment"! Real love and devotion is earned over time when we begin to really know the whole person and not their public image.
IN SPADES!!
15. Flatters you and treats you as very special: Sure we are all special in some ways, but this is one of the things that a false guru may do to hook a potential follower or to get a current follower to do a particular task. Nothing can be more intoxicating to the ego than to be selected by the master or leader (or any high profile person). A real master will stand back and allow you to make your decision whether to accept his or her teachings without trying to influence the process.
The flattery is with "titles" and "volunteer positions" with no power in the hope of being "favoured" by a look at the GURU. The no-power "titles" all have to do with gathering new members, and/or the menial duties of food, cleaning, or "volunteering" in all the functions of the Mission, which the "serf" is said to "own", but can't vote or have any decision-making power.
16. Talks bollocks: It is surprising what a person will listen to when he or she is devoted to the speaker. It is always a good idea to get hold of a written transcript of what has been said and really read the message. Then tell an open-minded friend who is not a follower what their opinion is purely on the strength of the words. You will soon find out whether there is any real substance to the teacher's message, or whether you are merely being drawn in by the charisma of the messenger.
Read some of his interviews and speeches...I will put a recent one as the next article on this blog.
17. Overly relies on slick presentation: Slick presentation can often mask poor content, and so it is important for you to look past the lovely music and video shows at the actual message. The slicker the presentation, the harder it is to see what exactly the teaching is.
18. Gives him or herself outrageous titles: Not satisfied by being "merely" an enlightened being, many false gurus give themselves titles (or allow their followers to do so) to indicate that they are literally God-Incarnate, the reincarnation of the Buddha or Christ, or THE chosen one. Some continually change their names, to keep pace with their burgeoning egos.
SRCM (California) and others call Ram Chandra, the founder of Sahaj Marg, the "Special Personality", a title he made up himself. Chari calls himself a "master of HUMANITY"
20. Is not interested in you personally: If a teacher or guru does not have time to interact with you personally, then you may as well read his teaching from a book, because merely being in his presence doesn't help you find realization inside you. You may model some of his spiritual characteristics, but that often only places you deeper in illusion.
Good luck!!
21. Allows his followers to set up a hierarchy of access: A guru must be accessible. If he is not, or if he allows his followers to block your access, then he is playing the role of a king and not a spiritual guide. A guru is only useful to the process of awakening if you can directly interact with him.
This is SRCM (California) to a tee.
22. Makes false claims of lineage: Many mistakenly believe that realisation can only happen under the guidance of a realized master. In this belief system, gurus are only authentic when they come from a line or lineage of realized gurus. Desperate not to be left out, some gurus claim a false lineage of enlightened masters to bolster their authority to teach. Another pseudo form of "lineage" is to recount a miracle that once happened to them (maybe they cured themselves of some disease or God spoke to them personally) which infers that they are "chosen" and therefore have the authority to set themselves up as teachers and gurus.
Read the History of Sahaj Marg in the Sahaj Marg Project for a revealing expose of the REAL history of Shri Ram Chandra Mission. This is very different from "official" party version and is corroborated by other groups and authoritative individuals. The research is exhaustive and has been quoted by others since it was released.
23. Presents themselves as non-profit whilst raking in the millions: Often, the false prophet will present her teachings for free, whilst strongly encouraging her devotees to make large donations. In this way she can appear above money considerations, whilst maintaining her greed and opulence.
Donations to SRCM (California) have reached the "million" level, by Indian supporters of the Chamber of Commerce of India, Diaspora Project in the so-called "corrupt" west.
24. Collects a large band of angry ex-followers: This is an indication that something is seriously wrong. If she has used kindness and love in her interactions with her students, and has discouraged them from projecting denied spiritual characteristics onto the guru (rather than encouraging their integration into the self), then it is extremely unlikely that there would be more than a few disheartened ex's. Many might drift away and feel they have wasted their time, but they are only likely to have the great anger if they have put their teacher on a pedestal, given him their power, and later realized that he was never worthy of such adoration. Contrary to what some believe, it is actually the teacher's responsibility to strongly discourage students from putting them on pedestals, for this is counterproductive to finding realisation inside.
There are currently enough blogs to cause the "management team" much concern. If one phone call from an "unsatisfied customer" means that there are at least 10 unsatisfied customers who don't phone, and if one letter of complaint means that there are 100 unsatisfied customers who don't write, then one blog means that there are at least over 1,000 unsatisfied ex-disciples of SRCM out there. And that is not counting the many "schisms" and their disciples, such as KC Narayana's ISRC, and SRCM (Shahjahanpur), the original society registered in India in 1945 and still controlled by the Founder's grandson, Navneet Kumar Saxena.
26. Acts like a complete paranoid mad person: If your Precious One acts like a complete paranoid schizophrenic or psychotic then he or she probably is. Run! Remember that there is no such thing as "crazy wisdom"—wisdom is the art of being balanced. However charismatic they may be, and sane between moments of madness, you WILL be damaged by them.
In the case of SRCM, beside the paranoia exhibited by Babuji (see Autobiography of Ram Chandra) , one can add: megalomania, apocalyptic, spiritualist. To ask your follower to be as "living dead in the hands of a funeral director" is certainly not healthy or "normal", does not encourage taking responsibility for one's actions, and displays an autoritarianism that can be called "megalomaniacal". The SRCM relationship is typically "co-dependent". Is SRCM (California) Apocalyptic? Read here and decide. Chari expects and "anticipates" that the USA will break up and SRCM (California) has registered its Sahaj Marg Research and Teaching Institute (SMRTI) in Austin Texas. They have also purchased a 28 acre ranch or "retreat" they call "SPURS" (an instrument of pain, for a group that promotes vegetarianism) outside of Austin, Texas.
Wednesday, August 27, 2008
Training the Proselytizers at SRCM (California), 1997
Taken from Elodie's blog: Pour Que Vive Le Sahaj Marg, (See the comments)
Good morning,
Cricri received a pamphlet from an anonymous source (an abhyasi, a close one?) He sent it to me. In this booklet, the Centre de Lyon (France) invites all abhyasis who wish to attend to a 2-day training coaching for better communication on Sahaj Marg. It affects four themes:
-- Exchanges with the family
-- Exchanges in a social or professional setting
-- Informal reception center
-- Formal presentation on Sahaj Marg
It seems to me that I have already heard of such practices. This reminds me of some Christian missionaries going to evangelize the colonies. Closer to us, it recalls the American evangelists, accustomed to new methods of communication. Methods worthy of the CIA.
As Cricri said, it shows once again "the activist and delirius proselytizing" of the Shri Ram Chandra Mission.
Affectionately
Elodie
Good morning,
Cricri received a pamphlet from an anonymous source (an abhyasi, a close one?) He sent it to me. In this booklet, the Centre de Lyon (France) invites all abhyasis who wish to attend to a 2-day training coaching for better communication on Sahaj Marg. It affects four themes:
-- Exchanges with the family
-- Exchanges in a social or professional setting
-- Informal reception center
-- Formal presentation on Sahaj Marg
It seems to me that I have already heard of such practices. This reminds me of some Christian missionaries going to evangelize the colonies. Closer to us, it recalls the American evangelists, accustomed to new methods of communication. Methods worthy of the CIA.
As Cricri said, it shows once again "the activist and delirius proselytizing" of the Shri Ram Chandra Mission.
Affectionately
Elodie
Tuesday, August 26, 2008
LOVE! According To Chari, Self-appointed Guru of SRCM (California)
Taken from Elodie's blog: Pour Que Vive le Sahaj Marg, comments by Alexis, in the article on "Brighter World"
Chari, Master of SRCM (California): A Master of Humanity, who admits to having "no heart" teaching the Spirituality of a "heart-centered" meditation called Sahaj Marg. LOVE for one and all, except...
QUESTION FOR ABHYASIS...
Why should the Pope not offer a prayer for every group individually, including a "special prayer" for those infected with AIDS? And why not a prayer for ALL groups collectively, also? As Chari and SRCM (California) would do? Why the DIVISION here Chari?
That would make all "Happy"!!
This is a the context supplied from Alexis, for a quote I used from Chari on AIDS. Chari is the Master of SRCM (California) which claims to be a "heart-centered" meditation:
Don
Here is the overall context of Chari's intervention. As I see it, it implies that AIDS would not be spread without homosexuals or sexual practices of people who change partners, all things he is said to detest. So he rejects AIDS patients after rejecting homosexuals and people who are not faithful in love.
Reject is perhaps a little hard to see it in all cases, he condemns.
He is even more adamant than the Pope ... His morality dates from the nineteenth century!
Question of an Abhyasi: When will you go to Africa?
Chari's response: Why do you want me to go to Africa. I work
according to the orders I receive from my master If he goes to France
I come here. If he says why you spend three days eating well
with Guy, I'm finished.
I was with Babuji in Rome, at the Vatican and the former pope was there. An old man very sick, very tired, he blessed the people in three languages, and finally he said something that made many people angry, he said he will offer a special prayer for people who have AIDS.
I was angry, I said why AIDS? Why not diabetes or legs broken, and not AIDS which is a disease that should not be accepted nor tolerated in any way. Many abhyasis told me that I have no heart when I say that. I said too bad I have no heart because if I had a heart I could not work. At the beginning of my spiritual life, I gave my heart to my master. And now I can only work with my head.
If he says no sitting I did no sitting, I must obey orders, you know. When I told Babuji what was in the pope's prayer he was also surprised. The religious leaders can pray for a specific group. In India our prayer is "may all be happy and healthy everywhere." One prays not for whites, African, Chinese… this is not like that. May all be happy people everywhere.
This is "loving" CHARI, the Master of SRCM, who professes LOVE for ALL, that emanates from a "HEART-centered" meditation. And he tries to say the Babuji, the founder agreed with him...I don't believe him...I think he just makes it up as he goes along... And he gets angry at the offer of a PRAYER by the LEADER OF THE ROMAN CATHOLIC church, for those infected with AIDS?? That is the RELIGIOUS TOLERANCE displayed at SRCM (California). Does anyone from the UNDPI ever read the material spread by their membership under the guise of supporting the goals of the UN?
4d-don
Comments by Cri-cri: (translated from comments on Elodie's blog)
(...)
"I work according to the orders I receive from my master. If he goes to France
I come here. "
That's it! He is now in inter-communication with his Master !!!!! Hooray! So no more need of the spiritualist bullshit. So, the anonymous French lady "medium"- is she transferred or sacked?
"I said too bad I have no heart because if I had a heart I could not work. At the beginning of my spiritual life I gave my heart to my master and now I can only work with my head. "
What a confession! The guy finally reveals himself as he is. He must therefore be very advanced in his agenda. A Master of Humanity, without a heart, who teaches the path of the heart. ( a "heart-centered" path)
"If he says no sitting I did not sitting, I must obey orders you know"
Who is this "he"? From whom does he receives his orders?
Cricri
The blog of Cricri on SRCMtm
http://srcmtm-fr.blogspot.com/
Alexis's comments: (Translated from comments on Elodies' blog)
Back to the thread between Don & Frank, about homosexuality. Here is an exerpt of Chari's speech cited by Don (Balance-the Crux of Life, January 20, 2006 in Malaysia):
"(…) That is why Sahaj Marg is performing marriages—no questions asked, except whether you are old enough to get married, and whether you are a man and a woman. Unlike the churches in the world, we don’t perform same-sex marriages. That is unnatural. God did not intend it to be thus. Please excuse me, it is a personal comment, it is not Sahaj Marg. But there are things, as Babuji Maharaj said, “If God did not want two sexes, he could have as well created one and seen that the world propagated by itself.” There are unicellular organisms called amoeba which just split when they want. No problems of sex, no problems of love and hate, no problems of, shall we say, illegitimate babies, no need for Viagra. You know, when it is big enough it just splits and there are two. “Behold, there was one and now there are two,” says the Lord. So God could have done anything he wanted, you see. Why two sexes? Not so that one sex should marry among themselves, isn’t it? So, what the church may allow, I don’t have to condone or accept. To me, it is a very blatant misuse of so-called privileges of the human being, fundamental rights, et cetera. Of course, if you claim it is your fundamental right to go the dogs, so be it! Even God cannot stop it. (…)"
It is interesting to note that Chari said that he condemns homosexuality, not the Sahaj Marg. This does not prevent it cited as Babuji, as an attempt to say that his own master agreed with him…
Chari, Master of SRCM (California): A Master of Humanity, who admits to having "no heart" teaching the Spirituality of a "heart-centered" meditation called Sahaj Marg. LOVE for one and all, except...
QUESTION FOR ABHYASIS...
Why should the Pope not offer a prayer for every group individually, including a "special prayer" for those infected with AIDS? And why not a prayer for ALL groups collectively, also? As Chari and SRCM (California) would do? Why the DIVISION here Chari?
That would make all "Happy"!!
This is a the context supplied from Alexis, for a quote I used from Chari on AIDS. Chari is the Master of SRCM (California) which claims to be a "heart-centered" meditation:
Don
Here is the overall context of Chari's intervention. As I see it, it implies that AIDS would not be spread without homosexuals or sexual practices of people who change partners, all things he is said to detest. So he rejects AIDS patients after rejecting homosexuals and people who are not faithful in love.
Reject is perhaps a little hard to see it in all cases, he condemns.
He is even more adamant than the Pope ... His morality dates from the nineteenth century!
Question of an Abhyasi: When will you go to Africa?
Chari's response: Why do you want me to go to Africa. I work
according to the orders I receive from my master If he goes to France
I come here. If he says why you spend three days eating well
with Guy, I'm finished.
I was with Babuji in Rome, at the Vatican and the former pope was there. An old man very sick, very tired, he blessed the people in three languages, and finally he said something that made many people angry, he said he will offer a special prayer for people who have AIDS.
I was angry, I said why AIDS? Why not diabetes or legs broken, and not AIDS which is a disease that should not be accepted nor tolerated in any way. Many abhyasis told me that I have no heart when I say that. I said too bad I have no heart because if I had a heart I could not work. At the beginning of my spiritual life, I gave my heart to my master. And now I can only work with my head.
If he says no sitting I did no sitting, I must obey orders, you know. When I told Babuji what was in the pope's prayer he was also surprised. The religious leaders can pray for a specific group. In India our prayer is "may all be happy and healthy everywhere." One prays not for whites, African, Chinese… this is not like that. May all be happy people everywhere.
This is "loving" CHARI, the Master of SRCM, who professes LOVE for ALL, that emanates from a "HEART-centered" meditation. And he tries to say the Babuji, the founder agreed with him...I don't believe him...I think he just makes it up as he goes along... And he gets angry at the offer of a PRAYER by the LEADER OF THE ROMAN CATHOLIC church, for those infected with AIDS?? That is the RELIGIOUS TOLERANCE displayed at SRCM (California). Does anyone from the UNDPI ever read the material spread by their membership under the guise of supporting the goals of the UN?
4d-don
Comments by Cri-cri: (translated from comments on Elodie's blog)
(...)
"I work according to the orders I receive from my master. If he goes to France
I come here. "
That's it! He is now in inter-communication with his Master !!!!! Hooray! So no more need of the spiritualist bullshit. So, the anonymous French lady "medium"- is she transferred or sacked?
"I said too bad I have no heart because if I had a heart I could not work. At the beginning of my spiritual life I gave my heart to my master and now I can only work with my head. "
What a confession! The guy finally reveals himself as he is. He must therefore be very advanced in his agenda. A Master of Humanity, without a heart, who teaches the path of the heart. ( a "heart-centered" path)
"If he says no sitting I did not sitting, I must obey orders you know"
Who is this "he"? From whom does he receives his orders?
Cricri
The blog of Cricri on SRCMtm
http://srcmtm-fr.blogspot.com/
Alexis's comments: (Translated from comments on Elodies' blog)
Back to the thread between Don & Frank, about homosexuality. Here is an exerpt of Chari's speech cited by Don (Balance-the Crux of Life, January 20, 2006 in Malaysia):
"(…) That is why Sahaj Marg is performing marriages—no questions asked, except whether you are old enough to get married, and whether you are a man and a woman. Unlike the churches in the world, we don’t perform same-sex marriages. That is unnatural. God did not intend it to be thus. Please excuse me, it is a personal comment, it is not Sahaj Marg. But there are things, as Babuji Maharaj said, “If God did not want two sexes, he could have as well created one and seen that the world propagated by itself.” There are unicellular organisms called amoeba which just split when they want. No problems of sex, no problems of love and hate, no problems of, shall we say, illegitimate babies, no need for Viagra. You know, when it is big enough it just splits and there are two. “Behold, there was one and now there are two,” says the Lord. So God could have done anything he wanted, you see. Why two sexes? Not so that one sex should marry among themselves, isn’t it? So, what the church may allow, I don’t have to condone or accept. To me, it is a very blatant misuse of so-called privileges of the human being, fundamental rights, et cetera. Of course, if you claim it is your fundamental right to go the dogs, so be it! Even God cannot stop it. (…)"
It is interesting to note that Chari said that he condemns homosexuality, not the Sahaj Marg. This does not prevent it cited as Babuji, as an attempt to say that his own master agreed with him…
Open Letter from Cri-cri, an ex-disciple of SRCM for 18 yrs.
Taken from Elodie's blog "Pour Que Vive Le Sahaj Marg". Translated by 4d-don using Google Translate.
Cri-cri (Christian), is an ex-abhyasis of 18 years. He is a PHD in psychology who has a blog Analyse de la SRCM(tm) on SRCM and Sahaj Marg and is one of the bloggers that Chari, the current Master of SRCM(California) , in his recent book: He, the Hookah and I, has called the "enemies of spirituality"!
Open Letter from Cricri
An abhyasi of the SRCM ™ informed me relatively quickly after the onset of blog protesters, that instructions had been given to abhyasis at his center. He said, inter alia, that Chari had excluded me (from SRCM) and that bloggers were ill-intentioned people who only sought to undermine the mission and the work of the master, and that therefore, Chari prohibited abhyasis from reading our blogs or contact us because it is not only detrimental to the future of the mission, but to the spiritual life of its members.
According to my information, this disinformation campaign was waged without restriction in the European centers, and would have emanated directly from the top of the pyramid - Chari and his inner circle. Please confirm or correct, thank you to testify.
This action was intended, by creating an atmosphere of fear in the sect, to nip in the bud what could have been, for the spiritual good of the mission and abhyasis, a general uprising against the excesses of the SRCM ™ introduced by Chari and his henchmen.
An implicit threat was indeed addressed to the abhyasis: Any challenger would be banned (ex-communicated) by the Master, as it seems that I had been! An abhyasi who would have risked it, would not only have been demonized and dismissed by the Master and by the group, he/she would also have lost forever the spiritual guidance that only the Master (Chari), it is claimed, is able to give to his victims and worshippers .
In addition, the protesters are now outcasts (pariahs) motivated by a sordid desire - again a "corridor gossip" skilfully driven by the managers of the SRCM ™ - a feeling of antipathy against the bloggers would naturally grow among abhyasis, and it was essential this that happened. Without this antipathy towards these depraved renegades, some members of the SRCM ™ would have been curious enough to read our analyses, to think, ask questions and become aware of the mental trap in which they are prisoners. Because this movement (the bloggers) had already started, it was urgent to find the ideas that put out and stop the spread of the fire.
With fear, threat and intimidation, there were few questions, participation in discussions on blogs was spontaneously low, and abhyasis massively respected the ban on reading the blogs. We assume that there was also purges, in reference to the information given several months ago by Alexis (realignment of teams and the resignation of preceptors), but we have no direct information on the causes of these revisions or knowledge of their size - thank you for your confirmation or correction. Thank you for testifying.
Thus, through psychological pressure and manipulation of reality, SRCM ™ managed to evacuate the risk that his mystified followers are one day struck by the subversive emergence of REALITY.
Today the system is increasingly locked by fear because those who are at the top of the pyramid want to retain control while knowing that they are illegitimate.
As the exchange of e-mails that I had with Chari during the so-called "exclusion process" has been published in full on my blog (information remains online here), it is easy for everyone and anyone to confirm that in REALITY, Chari never excluded me from anything: It is I who resigned.
Please read these emails to understand who lies to you. My approach was the culmination of a reflection of 10 years, and those who know me will only confirm my questioning and my sincerity, now being questioned by some rotten people.
My decision was extremely difficult, and was the logical conclusion of a lengthy process. The only possible outcome when I found myself backed up against the wall, was to test the upper levels of the system without any restrictions or pressure. I had to clear my heart.
If by misfortune, I was wrong, the result could only be positive. I was indeed (I thought), dealing with a spiritually evolved being, and described by all his worshippers as "pure love". I also assumed that Chari had an absolute knowledge of human nature and its limitations, since he is the Master. He should therefore be the best placed of all to understand that abhyasi may commit errors of judgement on a subtle and often undefined path. Chari, being my teacher, it was logical to think that if I was in error, he would enlighten me and guide me to make me understand my bewilderment (lost ways).
I thought that he should also be able to forgive me and continue to love me in spite of what falsely appeared to some as a lack of faith. Such a master would have reacted thus no matter what I said in the discussion. It seemed obvious that the Master would have respect for the courageous act of engaging in a frank and open debate, noble values, on a deep concern for the good of the mission and its abhyasis. Finally, I waited for my master to help me remove obstacles that hindered my progress, whatever the means.
However, the logic of the "test assumption" included that if Chari was an impostor, he would fail miserably in the test. I would then know the truth about him, and I knew that I would pay an exorbitant price: The loss of my personal comfort, my chains and my safety, for the truth, reality, freedom and responsibility. My approach would therefore have nothing but advantages, no matter how painful and difficult it was.
Chari, repeating what his teacher said, was asking people to try and test the system before taking the decision to commit TOTALLY once they were convinced.
Such an invitation seems honest and respectful of the process of the newcomer. But this is one more trap whose aim is to create faith by habituation, to gain time for the process of mind control to begin to produce its effect and generate belief in the newcomer.
For in truth, who would dare test the system from the outset? Who really is testing the system before becoming a bigot? Who has the capability, a hysterical faith, to step back and do this test? And first of all, what is the usefulness of testing one thing if we are convinced? You see the logic, and why, when Chari said, "try and test the system before deciding", he knows he runs no risk. As a newcomer, regardless of the area which one wants to learn, one works to understand and be accepted by the community, not to test. To "Put to the test" is a process that can occur after years, when all aspects of the system are known and that some key issues may arise. "Half-tests", that is all that people do before being subjugated by the power, because it is what they want: safe comfort of fascination. The abhyasis (victims) are thus also responsible for the abuses of the SRCM ™, they feed on their fear and their desire for security.
My action, which I judge today as beneficial for myself and for others who have already benefited and will continue to benefit from tomorrow, has not put an end to my spiritual life, on the contrary. Rid of the poisonous influence of a maniac and his deadly indoctrination system, the progress that had never occurred in the SRCM ™ in 17 years occurred in a few months. Chari called willingly such progress a "spiritual suicide" so as to frighten and keep his mental grip on his victims.
In addition, those who took the trouble to read the content of the blogs and who have a minimum of intellectual honesty recognize, beyond style, the veracity of the fundamental problems that we denounce and the indisputable logic of our arguments. How does "calling a spade a spade" reveal a desire to harm the mission as has been alleged to discredit our approach?
Recall that the purpose of the blogs was initially to create a space of freedom, which does not exist in the mission since the SRCM ™ has become a totalitarian system. In this area of freedom, bloggers wanted:
(1) be able to discuss points with others and to liberate themselves mentally and spiritually from a burdensome fraud
(2) to provide abhyasis who were "examining their conscience", and were ready to engage in a path of coherence, information that could help them understand what happened
(3) create linkage between individuals and to inform each "pariah" that he/she is not alone but is part of an invisible and massive group, and that he/she therefore has a potential role in a future that is more or less near
(4) participate in the restoration of the mission in its original spiritual purpose if a sufficient number of people decided, by an act of faith, to purge the mafia behind the abuse (drifting) that started in the mid 60.
Helping humanity to serve God, this is the only mission. The meaning of 3M is a sense of service, not the institution (master, mission, method), but to a higher dimension, universal, non-human. The institution, subject to such an entity, and therefore aims only to provide this service.
Despite the obvious political advantage that has provided the Official lie (to regain control and prevent flashover), the misinformation about the ex- abhyasis inevitably discredits the mission and its leadership in providing further evidence of the rightness of our analyses, and revealing the malignant will prevailing at the base of this straying movement.
I of course asked myself from whom emanated the political falsehood?
It could have come from preceptors or other corrupt cadres who surely feared to find themselves on the front line, exposed on one side by a wave of protest and questions they could not manage, and on the other from a tyrant to whom they are accountable in hard and teetering currency.
However, as the disinformation campaign appears to have taken place in many centres, hence, to have been orchestrated in higher places, we must conclude that it is probably Chari, who is supposed to have control over everything, given his status in the mission, which is at the origin of this demonization (universal love) abhyasis-pariah (fraternity) to control (fear) a situation that eluded him completely (master of the universe). It is not a near lie, anyway.
Please confirm or correct, thank you for testifying.
It is good that such phenomena are produced, far from impressing bloggers even if we had tried to make a "two birds with one stone", they reveal the mindset that prevails at the SRCM ™: They are also as noble and loyal as spiritual :-)
Continue to reflect, to seek the truth, ask questions, and keep everyone informed of your observations and discoveries, or by sharing them on blogs or by contacting one of us by e-mail if you really think that the publication of a message on a blog could compromise your position.
I look forward to restoring the facts and discuss with you any questions, in private or online. You probably did not know but you are theoretically free from the influence of the toxic SRCM ™ because your are protected by the laws of your country, on the one hand. You are also protected by the Truth, spiritually. Finally, you have a responsibility to the principle of Justice and to future generations: Do not flee the controversy but you must have the courage to see REALITY as it is and reveal the errors and deception to allow corrections and improvements.
Do not be afraid of the truth because it is through deception and intimidation that the mazie mafia reigns supreme and as absolute Master in your life, inside the SRCM ™ as well as on the outside.
Be honest with yourself: Refuse that fear can serve as a breeding ground for your faith, your obedience, your respect or your love. Your judgement and your intuition surely can not serve as a breeding ground for doubt, but guide you in the right direction.
Do you consider it normal and logical that a system, or, I say, a spiritual master supposed to educate you spiritually distills you the poison of fear and confusion, then plays the strings to control you?
When you are afraid, stop to observe and break down the situation and your reaction to their constituents.
Consider then the logical mechanism in which you are trapped, and by what means you've arrived there.
Finally, break the unconscious dynamic to reintegrate this phantom energy in your life and restore your own fullness. This is what they fear most: whole beings who exist.
The mental trap of the SRCM ™ is almost perfect. It has recently been scientifically studied by managers of the mission to improve its coherence and effectiveness.
Because it requires the extraction of intellectual and personal resources it is sometimes not possible to implement it alone - hence the existence of our testimonies through these blogs and the importance for you to come and testify at your turn, we certainly advise you not to hesitate to seek the help of a professional psychologist (behaviorist psychologist, psychoanalyst), rather than necessarily the benevolent assistance of a preceptore, of Chari, or a psy inside the mission. Indeed, while you say that you are free and that there are no doors to the mission (except around the Master and the property of the mission that must be protected from outside world), they are bound to remind you of the spiritual danger that you run in resigning.
Do not confuse bigotry with devotion, these are two contradictory conditions. The first is a form of materialistic idolatry. It can be described as a narrow and exclusive pettiness of stunted hearts. Devotion, by contrast, is a direct consequence of the expansion of consciousness as a result of the infusion of the divine in the abhyasi. The true devotion is directed to the true master, ie the divine abstract principle which serves as a substrate to creation. Devotion is this expression in the human structure. On the contrary, abhyasis of the SRCM ™ are driven to practice idolatry for one of 3M, if not for all 3 at one time. Thus reduced to bigotry, they are convinced by management that their deteriorated condition is devotion and that it has any spiritual value! That is located in the heart of the abhyasis of the SRCM ™.
As it is useful and practical, yet once again, for the crooks to which you have surrendered your life believing to have done well: There are things that are not good to hear, and there is no correct way to say it. Service is surely the notion of sacrifice, which bases any act of faith, not as an abdication of oneself but as an Unrestricted expression of this divine dimension. The spiritual journey is never morbid (destruction) but positive (a realization).
Cri-cri's theory of the History of SRCM...
Finally, I draw up a small summary of the elements that support the hypothesis of an occult history of the SRCM, infiltrated and under the influence. The SRCM ™ of California have a special place in the globalist project: One Government, One Army, One religion?
In 1957, the United Nations contact Babuji so that he provides support for the United Nations body in charge of world peace through his teaching and his organization. Babuji responds to this request in a letter that everybody knows. The United Nations knows the existence of the Mission, of Babuji and of his teaching at that time.
In 1964, Chari (and his father) joined the mission and began his career.
In 1970, the abuses are already there. Fortunately, Chari could not erase this history. There is still a trace in correspondence between Varadachari and Babuji, (see history of Dr. KC Varadachari) and (see also: on Elodie's blog, comments by cri-cri, exerpts from Event Horizon (2002), letters between Babuji and Varadachari....here) the first attracting the attention of the second on the problem of the commercialization of the mission, the second confirming that the mission should never be commercialized or deviate from its first spiritual goal.
In 1974, Babuji has serious health problems. Perhaps (allegedly) poisoned, he spent several weeks in a coma. According to Narayana, he will never recover, keeping from this episode a physical and mental weakness which will give a free hand from 1974 to undercover agents to take control of Babuji and his management.
At that time, Chari is gaining importance and Babuji would have received a letter confirming that he will be president and successor. This appointment was challenged later by Babuji - the second (alleged) cause of poisoning?
Three letterheads blank, signed by Babuji to settle the affairs of the mission in his absence, disappear around this time. A complaint is filed with the police. These documents are perhaps those who have served in 1983 to legitimize the succession or attempts to do so.
In 1982, Babuji feared for his life before his departure for a final tour of Europe. He wishes to file a complaint with the police. None of his family understands his paranoia, since everyone loves Babuji.
Moreover, it is not possible to file a complaint for a crime that has not yet taken place.
In 1983, Babuji dies in suspicious circumstances, probably (allegedly) poisoned during his visit to Paris. He is repatriated to India, where he spent the last weeks of his life in a deep coma.
Chari immediately seizes the throne while funerals are not completed, in circumstances as suspicious and confused as the death of Babuji.
Given the legal difficulties he encounters, he creates a new SRCM, his own, in California, to circumvent the Indian authority in the dispute which opposes him to the SRCM.
He then began a policy of seduction of abhyasis Western to assert his power and to face the Indian challenge.
The first years of the reign of Chari are marked by schisms. Chari engineers to discredit the dissidents as having an ego problem and as not having been able to recognize the master where he is. I confirm that is delirious or that he lies: Having known Chari, his followers and those who have had a crisis of ego according Chari, I have no doubt about this because one recognizes a tree by its fruit.
Chari was left alone by himself in 1991, when the resignation of a group of old abhyssis of Babuji came in the wake of departure of the son of Varadachari, (who formed a schism group: Institute of Ram Chandra Consciousness (ISRC), a group which had supported the Chari succession in 1983 and until then. Main reason: The drift of the teachings becomes too large and imperils the teaching itself.
Murders and attempted murders (allegedly) took place on the descendants of Babuji. According to the grandson of Babuji, his father (Umesh) fearing for his life would finally die poisoned, his uncle was killed in a road accident, and he himself has suffered an attempted poisoning. Recall that according to the statutes of the SRCM Shahjahanpur, only the genetic descendants of Ram Chandra can legally occupy the position of Spiritual Representative.
Since the mid-90, the teaching of Sahaj Marg is increasingly altered to be adjusted to the new activities of the mission, and SRCM is transformed into a proselytizing, apocalyptic, and imperialist, which seeks to assert its influence in the World promoting the accession of new members, preferably rich and powerful. The focus of the energy of the followers is mainly on the physical expansion of the mission and the power of influence, with attempts at seduction of non-governmental organizations, governmental and supra-governmental.
In 2006 takes place the take-over of the last bastions of the old empire, Babuji (Ashram of Shahjahanpur), a scandal.
Lies, suspicious deaths, resignations timely, concealment of facts and trials along Chari's path and the history of SRCM since its inception.
Please complete and confirm thank you for testifying.
Alexis said:
Christian
Exactly, the moral pressure has never been stronger. One remark: To my knowledge, it is not the UN who contatcted Babuji. It is him who sent a letter to the UN, thus making himself know to them.
4d-don's comments:
(Thank you Christian, for your analysis and your theory of the History of SRCM. (I added "alleged" to many statements for obvious reasons)
That some businessmen and some capitalists, as well as some religions, are "globalists" and empirialists is common knowledge. We will inevitably become a global society or a "civilization ONE" (as Michio Kaku, physicist, calls our next societal step) by necessity, so as to deal with the problems and the opportunities we face now and in the future: pollution, poverty, population, war, etc... and also, outer and inner space exploration and all the resources and collaborations that entails.
I would not give SRCM that much importance in the scheme of GLOBALIZATION except that Chari, and his gang of businessmen, are now in control through a "questionable " take-over, and that he is an ex-CEO of TTK Group. He is connected to the "right" and their Global agenda through his past. We see in all countries and societies, that the "fundamentalists", the "conservatives", being more ruthless and addicted to material power than the "liberals", and their abstractions, are usually the ones who "take-over" the material structures from the "liberals" and their smaller numbers in most organizations. Religion is no exception.
The liberals usually just leave the structures and do not want to PLAY THAT GAME, leaving the ruthless and opportunistic fundamentalists in control of many societal structures. SRCM, as it is a new-religion, is no different from the religious structures of the Catholics, the Christians, the Muslims, the Jews, etc.. It is controlled by the businessmen, the capitalists, the power addicts, the fundamentalists, who want to be "obeyed" under the threat of "expulsion" or worse (violence) as with other religions.... I am not surprised. Liberalism carries the seed of its own destruction. The material structures go down a little harder.
That SRCM is tied to a overt Global conspiracy involving the UN, is as yet unproven in my opinion and if it is, it probably will never be proven to any satisfaction and we will be left with "allegations", not proof. There may never be a "smoking gun'.
The thing for those who seek SPIRIT and SPIRITUALITY to do with the STRUCTURES OF MAN is to leave them to MEN...and to expose them without JOINING THEM or becoming like them...and CONSPIRING...
As usual, in most religions, it is the SHEEP, the followers, the "liberals" who remain inside and support these abusive structures and the "intellectual terrorism" of their apocalyptic teachings and their fear mongering for this reality, and also for the "other world" or as in this case, the not-so "brighter world", of SRCM(California),. The sheep , the followers support these abusive medieval (and archaic) structures with their DOLLARS and their "proselytizing", thus attracting more "funders", and then they complain that the structure is corrupt...What do they expect?...we, the ex-abhysis, supported and helped Chari and SRCM build this corrupt structure... NOW let us expose it and leave it without the individual support of our money and our numbers, and also without our collective "tax-exempt" subsidies and the support and creditibility of our broader and even global organizations such as the UN. (the UNDPI)
WE knew what they were when we joined the GROUP... but we naively wanted to believe in the "GOODNESS of ALL". Now we just have to let them crumble as other RELIGIONS will crumble because of the Information revolution that is the INTERNET and our ability to laugh collectively at their "silliness" as we laugh at "children's games, thus disarming them of their power over us.... We don' t have to get angry because they "fooled" us, but we can forgive them and ourselves and not support them with our dollars, our "tax-exempt" status, and/or recommend them to our friends as a source of SPIRIT, as if that was the truth or even possible. SPIRIT IS not more there than here...Spirit or the ONE does not LIVE in more in their IVORY TOWERS, Churches or Ashrams as in NATURE and "out of doors".
WE WON'T BE FOOLED AGAIN... AND WE WILL TRY AND PREVENT this and other so-called SPIRITUAL GROUPS FROM FOOLING OTHER SEEKERS by sharing our experiences and our information!! RIGHT?? And we won't conspire together to do it, right?? ...but we will stand alone in our own: "AQUARIAN CONSPIRACY"... lol ;-))
4d-don...
Cri-cri (Christian), is an ex-abhyasis of 18 years. He is a PHD in psychology who has a blog Analyse de la SRCM(tm) on SRCM and Sahaj Marg and is one of the bloggers that Chari, the current Master of SRCM(California) , in his recent book: He, the Hookah and I, has called the "enemies of spirituality"!
Open Letter from Cricri
An abhyasi of the SRCM ™ informed me relatively quickly after the onset of blog protesters, that instructions had been given to abhyasis at his center. He said, inter alia, that Chari had excluded me (from SRCM) and that bloggers were ill-intentioned people who only sought to undermine the mission and the work of the master, and that therefore, Chari prohibited abhyasis from reading our blogs or contact us because it is not only detrimental to the future of the mission, but to the spiritual life of its members.
According to my information, this disinformation campaign was waged without restriction in the European centers, and would have emanated directly from the top of the pyramid - Chari and his inner circle. Please confirm or correct, thank you to testify.
This action was intended, by creating an atmosphere of fear in the sect, to nip in the bud what could have been, for the spiritual good of the mission and abhyasis, a general uprising against the excesses of the SRCM ™ introduced by Chari and his henchmen.
An implicit threat was indeed addressed to the abhyasis: Any challenger would be banned (ex-communicated) by the Master, as it seems that I had been! An abhyasi who would have risked it, would not only have been demonized and dismissed by the Master and by the group, he/she would also have lost forever the spiritual guidance that only the Master (Chari), it is claimed, is able to give to his victims and worshippers .
In addition, the protesters are now outcasts (pariahs) motivated by a sordid desire - again a "corridor gossip" skilfully driven by the managers of the SRCM ™ - a feeling of antipathy against the bloggers would naturally grow among abhyasis, and it was essential this that happened. Without this antipathy towards these depraved renegades, some members of the SRCM ™ would have been curious enough to read our analyses, to think, ask questions and become aware of the mental trap in which they are prisoners. Because this movement (the bloggers) had already started, it was urgent to find the ideas that put out and stop the spread of the fire.
With fear, threat and intimidation, there were few questions, participation in discussions on blogs was spontaneously low, and abhyasis massively respected the ban on reading the blogs. We assume that there was also purges, in reference to the information given several months ago by Alexis (realignment of teams and the resignation of preceptors), but we have no direct information on the causes of these revisions or knowledge of their size - thank you for your confirmation or correction. Thank you for testifying.
Thus, through psychological pressure and manipulation of reality, SRCM ™ managed to evacuate the risk that his mystified followers are one day struck by the subversive emergence of REALITY.
Today the system is increasingly locked by fear because those who are at the top of the pyramid want to retain control while knowing that they are illegitimate.
As the exchange of e-mails that I had with Chari during the so-called "exclusion process" has been published in full on my blog (information remains online here), it is easy for everyone and anyone to confirm that in REALITY, Chari never excluded me from anything: It is I who resigned.
Please read these emails to understand who lies to you. My approach was the culmination of a reflection of 10 years, and those who know me will only confirm my questioning and my sincerity, now being questioned by some rotten people.
My decision was extremely difficult, and was the logical conclusion of a lengthy process. The only possible outcome when I found myself backed up against the wall, was to test the upper levels of the system without any restrictions or pressure. I had to clear my heart.
If by misfortune, I was wrong, the result could only be positive. I was indeed (I thought), dealing with a spiritually evolved being, and described by all his worshippers as "pure love". I also assumed that Chari had an absolute knowledge of human nature and its limitations, since he is the Master. He should therefore be the best placed of all to understand that abhyasi may commit errors of judgement on a subtle and often undefined path. Chari, being my teacher, it was logical to think that if I was in error, he would enlighten me and guide me to make me understand my bewilderment (lost ways).
I thought that he should also be able to forgive me and continue to love me in spite of what falsely appeared to some as a lack of faith. Such a master would have reacted thus no matter what I said in the discussion. It seemed obvious that the Master would have respect for the courageous act of engaging in a frank and open debate, noble values, on a deep concern for the good of the mission and its abhyasis. Finally, I waited for my master to help me remove obstacles that hindered my progress, whatever the means.
However, the logic of the "test assumption" included that if Chari was an impostor, he would fail miserably in the test. I would then know the truth about him, and I knew that I would pay an exorbitant price: The loss of my personal comfort, my chains and my safety, for the truth, reality, freedom and responsibility. My approach would therefore have nothing but advantages, no matter how painful and difficult it was.
Chari, repeating what his teacher said, was asking people to try and test the system before taking the decision to commit TOTALLY once they were convinced.
Such an invitation seems honest and respectful of the process of the newcomer. But this is one more trap whose aim is to create faith by habituation, to gain time for the process of mind control to begin to produce its effect and generate belief in the newcomer.
For in truth, who would dare test the system from the outset? Who really is testing the system before becoming a bigot? Who has the capability, a hysterical faith, to step back and do this test? And first of all, what is the usefulness of testing one thing if we are convinced? You see the logic, and why, when Chari said, "try and test the system before deciding", he knows he runs no risk. As a newcomer, regardless of the area which one wants to learn, one works to understand and be accepted by the community, not to test. To "Put to the test" is a process that can occur after years, when all aspects of the system are known and that some key issues may arise. "Half-tests", that is all that people do before being subjugated by the power, because it is what they want: safe comfort of fascination. The abhyasis (victims) are thus also responsible for the abuses of the SRCM ™, they feed on their fear and their desire for security.
My action, which I judge today as beneficial for myself and for others who have already benefited and will continue to benefit from tomorrow, has not put an end to my spiritual life, on the contrary. Rid of the poisonous influence of a maniac and his deadly indoctrination system, the progress that had never occurred in the SRCM ™ in 17 years occurred in a few months. Chari called willingly such progress a "spiritual suicide" so as to frighten and keep his mental grip on his victims.
In addition, those who took the trouble to read the content of the blogs and who have a minimum of intellectual honesty recognize, beyond style, the veracity of the fundamental problems that we denounce and the indisputable logic of our arguments. How does "calling a spade a spade" reveal a desire to harm the mission as has been alleged to discredit our approach?
Recall that the purpose of the blogs was initially to create a space of freedom, which does not exist in the mission since the SRCM ™ has become a totalitarian system. In this area of freedom, bloggers wanted:
(1) be able to discuss points with others and to liberate themselves mentally and spiritually from a burdensome fraud
(2) to provide abhyasis who were "examining their conscience", and were ready to engage in a path of coherence, information that could help them understand what happened
(3) create linkage between individuals and to inform each "pariah" that he/she is not alone but is part of an invisible and massive group, and that he/she therefore has a potential role in a future that is more or less near
(4) participate in the restoration of the mission in its original spiritual purpose if a sufficient number of people decided, by an act of faith, to purge the mafia behind the abuse (drifting) that started in the mid 60.
Helping humanity to serve God, this is the only mission. The meaning of 3M is a sense of service, not the institution (master, mission, method), but to a higher dimension, universal, non-human. The institution, subject to such an entity, and therefore aims only to provide this service.
Despite the obvious political advantage that has provided the Official lie (to regain control and prevent flashover), the misinformation about the ex- abhyasis inevitably discredits the mission and its leadership in providing further evidence of the rightness of our analyses, and revealing the malignant will prevailing at the base of this straying movement.
I of course asked myself from whom emanated the political falsehood?
It could have come from preceptors or other corrupt cadres who surely feared to find themselves on the front line, exposed on one side by a wave of protest and questions they could not manage, and on the other from a tyrant to whom they are accountable in hard and teetering currency.
However, as the disinformation campaign appears to have taken place in many centres, hence, to have been orchestrated in higher places, we must conclude that it is probably Chari, who is supposed to have control over everything, given his status in the mission, which is at the origin of this demonization (universal love) abhyasis-pariah (fraternity) to control (fear) a situation that eluded him completely (master of the universe). It is not a near lie, anyway.
Please confirm or correct, thank you for testifying.
It is good that such phenomena are produced, far from impressing bloggers even if we had tried to make a "two birds with one stone", they reveal the mindset that prevails at the SRCM ™: They are also as noble and loyal as spiritual :-)
Continue to reflect, to seek the truth, ask questions, and keep everyone informed of your observations and discoveries, or by sharing them on blogs or by contacting one of us by e-mail if you really think that the publication of a message on a blog could compromise your position.
I look forward to restoring the facts and discuss with you any questions, in private or online. You probably did not know but you are theoretically free from the influence of the toxic SRCM ™ because your are protected by the laws of your country, on the one hand. You are also protected by the Truth, spiritually. Finally, you have a responsibility to the principle of Justice and to future generations: Do not flee the controversy but you must have the courage to see REALITY as it is and reveal the errors and deception to allow corrections and improvements.
Do not be afraid of the truth because it is through deception and intimidation that the mazie mafia reigns supreme and as absolute Master in your life, inside the SRCM ™ as well as on the outside.
Be honest with yourself: Refuse that fear can serve as a breeding ground for your faith, your obedience, your respect or your love. Your judgement and your intuition surely can not serve as a breeding ground for doubt, but guide you in the right direction.
Do you consider it normal and logical that a system, or, I say, a spiritual master supposed to educate you spiritually distills you the poison of fear and confusion, then plays the strings to control you?
When you are afraid, stop to observe and break down the situation and your reaction to their constituents.
Consider then the logical mechanism in which you are trapped, and by what means you've arrived there.
Finally, break the unconscious dynamic to reintegrate this phantom energy in your life and restore your own fullness. This is what they fear most: whole beings who exist.
The mental trap of the SRCM ™ is almost perfect. It has recently been scientifically studied by managers of the mission to improve its coherence and effectiveness.
Because it requires the extraction of intellectual and personal resources it is sometimes not possible to implement it alone - hence the existence of our testimonies through these blogs and the importance for you to come and testify at your turn, we certainly advise you not to hesitate to seek the help of a professional psychologist (behaviorist psychologist, psychoanalyst), rather than necessarily the benevolent assistance of a preceptore, of Chari, or a psy inside the mission. Indeed, while you say that you are free and that there are no doors to the mission (except around the Master and the property of the mission that must be protected from outside world), they are bound to remind you of the spiritual danger that you run in resigning.
Do not confuse bigotry with devotion, these are two contradictory conditions. The first is a form of materialistic idolatry. It can be described as a narrow and exclusive pettiness of stunted hearts. Devotion, by contrast, is a direct consequence of the expansion of consciousness as a result of the infusion of the divine in the abhyasi. The true devotion is directed to the true master, ie the divine abstract principle which serves as a substrate to creation. Devotion is this expression in the human structure. On the contrary, abhyasis of the SRCM ™ are driven to practice idolatry for one of 3M, if not for all 3 at one time. Thus reduced to bigotry, they are convinced by management that their deteriorated condition is devotion and that it has any spiritual value! That is located in the heart of the abhyasis of the SRCM ™.
As it is useful and practical, yet once again, for the crooks to which you have surrendered your life believing to have done well: There are things that are not good to hear, and there is no correct way to say it. Service is surely the notion of sacrifice, which bases any act of faith, not as an abdication of oneself but as an Unrestricted expression of this divine dimension. The spiritual journey is never morbid (destruction) but positive (a realization).
Cri-cri's theory of the History of SRCM...
Finally, I draw up a small summary of the elements that support the hypothesis of an occult history of the SRCM, infiltrated and under the influence. The SRCM ™ of California have a special place in the globalist project: One Government, One Army, One religion?
In 1957, the United Nations contact Babuji so that he provides support for the United Nations body in charge of world peace through his teaching and his organization. Babuji responds to this request in a letter that everybody knows. The United Nations knows the existence of the Mission, of Babuji and of his teaching at that time.
In 1964, Chari (and his father) joined the mission and began his career.
In 1970, the abuses are already there. Fortunately, Chari could not erase this history. There is still a trace in correspondence between Varadachari and Babuji, (see history of Dr. KC Varadachari) and (see also: on Elodie's blog, comments by cri-cri, exerpts from Event Horizon (2002), letters between Babuji and Varadachari....here) the first attracting the attention of the second on the problem of the commercialization of the mission, the second confirming that the mission should never be commercialized or deviate from its first spiritual goal.
In 1974, Babuji has serious health problems. Perhaps (allegedly) poisoned, he spent several weeks in a coma. According to Narayana, he will never recover, keeping from this episode a physical and mental weakness which will give a free hand from 1974 to undercover agents to take control of Babuji and his management.
At that time, Chari is gaining importance and Babuji would have received a letter confirming that he will be president and successor. This appointment was challenged later by Babuji - the second (alleged) cause of poisoning?
Three letterheads blank, signed by Babuji to settle the affairs of the mission in his absence, disappear around this time. A complaint is filed with the police. These documents are perhaps those who have served in 1983 to legitimize the succession or attempts to do so.
In 1982, Babuji feared for his life before his departure for a final tour of Europe. He wishes to file a complaint with the police. None of his family understands his paranoia, since everyone loves Babuji.
Moreover, it is not possible to file a complaint for a crime that has not yet taken place.
In 1983, Babuji dies in suspicious circumstances, probably (allegedly) poisoned during his visit to Paris. He is repatriated to India, where he spent the last weeks of his life in a deep coma.
Chari immediately seizes the throne while funerals are not completed, in circumstances as suspicious and confused as the death of Babuji.
Given the legal difficulties he encounters, he creates a new SRCM, his own, in California, to circumvent the Indian authority in the dispute which opposes him to the SRCM.
He then began a policy of seduction of abhyasis Western to assert his power and to face the Indian challenge.
The first years of the reign of Chari are marked by schisms. Chari engineers to discredit the dissidents as having an ego problem and as not having been able to recognize the master where he is. I confirm that is delirious or that he lies: Having known Chari, his followers and those who have had a crisis of ego according Chari, I have no doubt about this because one recognizes a tree by its fruit.
Chari was left alone by himself in 1991, when the resignation of a group of old abhyssis of Babuji came in the wake of departure of the son of Varadachari, (who formed a schism group: Institute of Ram Chandra Consciousness (ISRC), a group which had supported the Chari succession in 1983 and until then. Main reason: The drift of the teachings becomes too large and imperils the teaching itself.
Murders and attempted murders (allegedly) took place on the descendants of Babuji. According to the grandson of Babuji, his father (Umesh) fearing for his life would finally die poisoned, his uncle was killed in a road accident, and he himself has suffered an attempted poisoning. Recall that according to the statutes of the SRCM Shahjahanpur, only the genetic descendants of Ram Chandra can legally occupy the position of Spiritual Representative.
Since the mid-90, the teaching of Sahaj Marg is increasingly altered to be adjusted to the new activities of the mission, and SRCM is transformed into a proselytizing, apocalyptic, and imperialist, which seeks to assert its influence in the World promoting the accession of new members, preferably rich and powerful. The focus of the energy of the followers is mainly on the physical expansion of the mission and the power of influence, with attempts at seduction of non-governmental organizations, governmental and supra-governmental.
In 2006 takes place the take-over of the last bastions of the old empire, Babuji (Ashram of Shahjahanpur), a scandal.
Lies, suspicious deaths, resignations timely, concealment of facts and trials along Chari's path and the history of SRCM since its inception.
Please complete and confirm thank you for testifying.
Alexis said:
Christian
Exactly, the moral pressure has never been stronger. One remark: To my knowledge, it is not the UN who contatcted Babuji. It is him who sent a letter to the UN, thus making himself know to them.
4d-don's comments:
(Thank you Christian, for your analysis and your theory of the History of SRCM. (I added "alleged" to many statements for obvious reasons)
That some businessmen and some capitalists, as well as some religions, are "globalists" and empirialists is common knowledge. We will inevitably become a global society or a "civilization ONE" (as Michio Kaku, physicist, calls our next societal step) by necessity, so as to deal with the problems and the opportunities we face now and in the future: pollution, poverty, population, war, etc... and also, outer and inner space exploration and all the resources and collaborations that entails.
I would not give SRCM that much importance in the scheme of GLOBALIZATION except that Chari, and his gang of businessmen, are now in control through a "questionable " take-over, and that he is an ex-CEO of TTK Group. He is connected to the "right" and their Global agenda through his past. We see in all countries and societies, that the "fundamentalists", the "conservatives", being more ruthless and addicted to material power than the "liberals", and their abstractions, are usually the ones who "take-over" the material structures from the "liberals" and their smaller numbers in most organizations. Religion is no exception.
The liberals usually just leave the structures and do not want to PLAY THAT GAME, leaving the ruthless and opportunistic fundamentalists in control of many societal structures. SRCM, as it is a new-religion, is no different from the religious structures of the Catholics, the Christians, the Muslims, the Jews, etc.. It is controlled by the businessmen, the capitalists, the power addicts, the fundamentalists, who want to be "obeyed" under the threat of "expulsion" or worse (violence) as with other religions.... I am not surprised. Liberalism carries the seed of its own destruction. The material structures go down a little harder.
That SRCM is tied to a overt Global conspiracy involving the UN, is as yet unproven in my opinion and if it is, it probably will never be proven to any satisfaction and we will be left with "allegations", not proof. There may never be a "smoking gun'.
The thing for those who seek SPIRIT and SPIRITUALITY to do with the STRUCTURES OF MAN is to leave them to MEN...and to expose them without JOINING THEM or becoming like them...and CONSPIRING...
As usual, in most religions, it is the SHEEP, the followers, the "liberals" who remain inside and support these abusive structures and the "intellectual terrorism" of their apocalyptic teachings and their fear mongering for this reality, and also for the "other world" or as in this case, the not-so "brighter world", of SRCM(California),. The sheep , the followers support these abusive medieval (and archaic) structures with their DOLLARS and their "proselytizing", thus attracting more "funders", and then they complain that the structure is corrupt...What do they expect?...we, the ex-abhysis, supported and helped Chari and SRCM build this corrupt structure... NOW let us expose it and leave it without the individual support of our money and our numbers, and also without our collective "tax-exempt" subsidies and the support and creditibility of our broader and even global organizations such as the UN. (the UNDPI)
WE knew what they were when we joined the GROUP... but we naively wanted to believe in the "GOODNESS of ALL". Now we just have to let them crumble as other RELIGIONS will crumble because of the Information revolution that is the INTERNET and our ability to laugh collectively at their "silliness" as we laugh at "children's games, thus disarming them of their power over us.... We don' t have to get angry because they "fooled" us, but we can forgive them and ourselves and not support them with our dollars, our "tax-exempt" status, and/or recommend them to our friends as a source of SPIRIT, as if that was the truth or even possible. SPIRIT IS not more there than here...Spirit or the ONE does not LIVE in more in their IVORY TOWERS, Churches or Ashrams as in NATURE and "out of doors".
WE WON'T BE FOOLED AGAIN... AND WE WILL TRY AND PREVENT this and other so-called SPIRITUAL GROUPS FROM FOOLING OTHER SEEKERS by sharing our experiences and our information!! RIGHT?? And we won't conspire together to do it, right?? ...but we will stand alone in our own: "AQUARIAN CONSPIRACY"... lol ;-))
4d-don...
Sunday, August 24, 2008
Chari's views on India, the USA, the World, Women, etc...(2001)
This is from a transcript that was handed-out by preceptors of SRCM (California), Chari's Clan, headquartered in Chennai, India. (Nov, 2001)
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It offers an insight in the world view of Chari, the current self-appointed Guru of SRCM (California) and President of the SRCM (Chennai) registered in California in 1997. SRCM (California) is a splinter that allegedly took-over the organizational structure and properties of SRCM (Shahjahanpur) that was founded and registered in India, in 1945 by Shri Ram Chandra of Shahjahanpur. Chari's SRCM (California) was registered in Californial, in 1997 and a court dispute began with the family of the founder and the Board of Directors of the SRCM (Shahjahanpur). The Board of Directors accepted the son of the Founder, Umesh Saxena as the legitimate successor of his father, Ram Chandra. That case will be decided and ruled on at the end of Sept, 2008 by the Supreme Court of India.
THE TRANSCRIPT (only the highlights and the paragraphing are mine)
November 18th, 2001 Chennai Airport... en route to New Delhi
Commenting about the Indians in the USA: (Transcription)
India is a land where you can enjoy money. You fellows make it and put it away. Here, for one hundredth of what you get there, you can really People who live in west, the rich people, they make a merit out of this. I mean, if you want to employ a driver, it would probably cost you as much as And he will have overtime. And he will come and sit with you in your drawing room. If you are a drinker, he will drink your beer. He wont even ask you. He will go to the fridge, pull it out and he will ask you Hey boss, you wanna beer? And he will address you by name. You know, my uncle was FAO (Foreign Services), what do they call it? UNDP expert in Jordan. He built a 1 sq. km forest in the desert at a cost of USD 1 billion! Long ago. It was a showpiece for Jordan. All the VIPs, the king took there & he was the kings personal friend. 1 Sq. Km, eh! And they were going to extend it! And he had a driver who had a long Arabic dress He would come in and say Batern I am thirsty. Go help yourself. And he was paid a fat sum, you see. And I think in those days, when I was a humble executive in TTK, he would probably do 50 times my salary a driver! So, I asked my uncle Whether you will ask your driver to come and sit in your room? Here you have to brush against beggars, against cheats, against crooks, because you are out here for nothing more than money. And, that is what I am saying, you just keep moving to a bigger house, financing your mortgage, and finally after 20 years, you want to come back and you find that you have 50 K in the bank, some 75 K in pension funds, which you will get when you are 66, and nothing else. And I wonder what the hell you have been doing with the money you earned? Paying the banks! Typical American life. And to delude themselves with the feeling that they are having fun, gallon flagons of ice cream, giant jumbo bottles of Pepsi, and frozen pizza which you can warm in whatever-you-call-it! Now, we even get French fries! Shiva Shiva. At least, if they wisely save some money and come back, it is a good thing. Is it not? But they do not even do that.
November 21, 2001. (7 a.m.) Dehradun
(While addressing a family, about to be newly introduced to the system, after he had spoken to them about the system for about 1 hour)
It is an important thing this that when we accept a Master, we accept Him completely. It is not that He is only a Master for spirituality, and we look to others for other things. I have had migraine from the age of 16. So, once Babuji asked me about this, and I told Him that I have had it for a long time. He took me to a Hakim (Muslim curer), who gave me some medicine. Now this medicine needed to be boiled in water, and when we did that it used to gut the whole place with an awful smell. Whenever my wife used to prepare the medicine in the kitchen, the smell used to spread throughout the house. My father used to come running and ask what is this? What are you doing here? And then he used to say that the guru is only for your spiritual needs & you have no business to be taking medicines from Him. But, I never stopped it. After a while, Babuji asked me if there was any improvement & I said, there was none. Then, He said Now it is in Gods hands. Perhaps God did take mercy on me later, that my migraine stopped on its own in a few years! 8:20 a.m. Nationality should be used for the right purpose. We are all different, yet we are one should be the attitude. Instead, we say There is no difference between us and hence we are one. This is wrong. It is strange as to how soon the mighty become powerless. The USA used to be terrified of the Soviet. Today, the US is lording over the world because there is no opposition. I expectI anticipate the US to break up. I mean, take Yugoslavia. When it can break up, when Slovenia, which is half the size of Kerla (a small state in India) can manage itselfand Croatia is even smaller than Slovenia, can manage itself, why not? Texas is a huge state. So is Alaska. It will all (He gestures with His hands as if a whole is getting split into so many fragments). For a democracy, there needs to be a balance of power; Whether it is a country or the world. In todays world, there is no balance of power. That is why the US is lording over the world. There is no opposition. It is no good for the world at all. (Someone begins to argue) Master says emphatically See, I am not talking about economics, politics, history or geography. I am talking about the fundamental principle of the need for balance. We are (ideally) talking about a world where everyone is happy because everyone has, and things are shared. We are not even thinking of such an aim. India is a happy country. Politics has not had any effect on the average person in India. If anything, for the average person, the election is a means of earning money. He will take Rs.50 from 3 parties, promising each one that he would vote for them. So, democracy does have a way of redistributing the wealth! In India, there is a saying Aaya Ram, Gaya Ram (Ram came & Ram went). Politicians come and go, and it has absolutely no effect on the common man. The politicians fight in the parliament, fight each other, and the people are untouched, and happy! Politicians come and go, but the situation has remained unchanged for the past few hundred years. It is a very amusing country. (Pause) When the Iraq war was fought, the US did not spend one penny! Saudi gave USD 9 billion. France gave $3 billion. So, all these stupid countries gave money, and they (USA) replenish all their weaponry, test all the new weapons at these peoples expense! (Pause) When you have interest, you will remember what you hear. Babuji used to ask I do not remember what you say myself, but how do you remember? But now, I find that I do not remember what I say myself! (To someone new who just walked in during his breakfast, wanting to spend some time with him) I am going to satsangh now. We have puja at 9oclock. I should be back by lunch. (The new person asks whether he can come back and meet Him). Master says Yes, Yes. Please come back. I am here to serve you. Please come during lunch (The humility with which He said this was amazing). Someone told Master that there are no preceptors in their center, to which Master quipped There are 4 preceptors here also, but there seems to be no results either. So, just continue the work.
November 22, 2001, 8 a.m. (Dehradun)
While looking at the blueprints for the upcoming meditation hall at another close-by city, Master asked a couple of financial questions. After some hesitation, someone said Master. Cannot say this in public. Master declared unequivocally that He wants absolute transparency in accounting. He said this forcefully enough to prevail well over the mild protests put forth. Then, one quipped, all right, Master. We will put it up on the notice board. Master said you are either in this extreme or in the other extreme. There has to be a balance. While talking about the size and dimensions of the meditation hall, Master was clear that the size should be such that it caters to the immediate needs and should not plan for large gatherings that happen occasionally. When someone asked him about the shape of the meditation hall needing to be rectangular in shape, Master agreed and said that the current idea is to be modular. It should be capable of being extended. What is the use of going in for a hexagonal shape! (A few days later, I observed that the shape of the meditation hall in Satkhol is Pentagonal! And Master touched upon the topic of how there will always be a restriction at Satkhol on the number of people at any time. In elaborating on the reason for this constraint, He said It is not a problem with food. I can feed 100,000 people. It is the water. Currently, we use up about Liters of water every day. We cannot afford to consume any more, for it will upset the availability of water supply.) Later, He pulled up a preceptor and said You walk away from sittings, you give 10 minute sittings, and you have started a girl at the age of 13 saying that she is very special. When he protested, Master said that the source of Ganga needs to be at some height for the water to reach so far! 12:30 p.m. On why a lady cannot be a Master Babuji said that a Master of that caliber gets orders from above, and their work includes that of destruction. A woman is not capable of such destruction. All this talk about equality between men and woman the more they talk about something, the less they will get it. Equality is different from equalization. There are high pressure and low pressure areas. In the process of equalization, the wind flows from here to there, and this process if what creates the climate. If the pressure were the same everywhere, there would be no climate. This is the way of nature: Inequality Equalization Inequality Equalization (alluding to a low pressure building, winds blowing from other high pressure areas, another low pressure building up, etc.) Today you see American woman trying to do everything that the male does. They join the navy seals. It is not a job for them. I might offend the woman here, but God did not create both as equals. Each have their own sphere of functioning. On wastage When someone offered Him a paper napkin (after He had eaten something, He refused and wiped His mouth with the towel on His shoulder. He said I do not use paper. I am a believer in not wasting. (Someone commented about the wastage in America). Master said that there is a tremendous amount of wastage there. He had heard from someone that 56% of the New York Times gets recycled, unopened & unsold, and yet they were making a profit. And when they recycle, they will write it so prominently, in bold as RECYCLED. In India, everything is recycled at least a 100 times. On Caution, in the USA When He was staying at one of the best hotels in Grand Canyon last year, the toilet seat was a bit raised & once you open the flap, it was written in red Caution. This water is not potable! Master said that He took a photograph of it, and gave it to somebody and asked him to send it to the president of the chain of hotels and ask Whom is this sign meant for? I mean, Are Americans so dumb that this has to be told to them? This is all because of the fear of lawsuits. (Somebody quipped about the incident when McDonalds was successfully sued for a million dollars when someone spilled hot coffee in her lap & sued that the coffee was too hot). Master said Yes, Yes. And they want the coffee piping hot, mind you! Now, there is also the case of smokers suing the companies because cigarette smoking harmed their health, When everyone knows this is a fact! In America, Sue and be damned! On manufacturing & Exports & the many products being imported from China Now, it is the thinking to manufacture what they can do well, and earn through exports. And import things that they cannot manufacture well. It is better than manufacturing bad goods for themselves. (Someone asked Master to confirm that weeping is not good, spiritually speaking) Weeping is not bad, per se, but it should not become a habit. We usually weep when we are in pain or in misery. Such weeping is out of self-pity and is absolutely useless. We should not weep at our own weakness, and misery. But you will see people weeping when they are happy. It is due to a feeling of gratitude that wells up from within them, which brings tears to the eyes.
November 25, 2001, 8:45 a.m. (Satkhol)
Before the morning satsangh, the door of the meditation hall was left open, and Master asked someone to close it. After this was done, an abhyasi walked in, leaving the door open again. This was closed, only for the same scene to happen yet again! Master said In the West, they have a habit to leave things as they were. If a door is open, they will leave the door open. If a door was closed, they will close the door behind them. They will leave things as they find it. This practice makes life very simple. There are many things we should learn from the West. It is the Indians who have the arrogance to leave things any which way. Some closes a doorSomeone opens a doorIt is a mess. (LaterAn abhyasi recalled a dream in which he saw Lalaji asBabuji as Love, and Chariji as Discipline). Master recalled Babujis directive in Paris (1982) to Him to bring discipline into the mission. But there are several people still in the mission who are undisciplined. So saying, He turned and looked at a girl who was sitting right next to Him (As if He was saying this to her). And almost immediately, she began to wipe off some tears from the corner of her eyes. And Master, looking at this, said: Now, Dont you start. I do not understand woman at all. Say the slightest of things harshly, and they begin to create a scene. It appears that I should only talk about superficial things like the food, the weather, etc. to them. Anything stronger than that, they cannot take it. I do not know what Mami (referring to His late wife) will think about all this. Maybe she will pull me up for what I am saying now, once I get to the brighter world. I do not know whether I am going there or not, but she is there. Babuji is saying You are doing good work. So continue doing it. You have built Satkhol. Go on, and build more places like this Master said that, in 2005, we would have a new ashram in Uttar Kashi, which is the place where the Sapta Rishis(the Seven Sages governing the Universe) came down to the Earth to meditate. He also talked about an ashram in the place where Pathanjali had his ashram
November 26, 2001, 2 p.m. Satkhol A(irport):
What is the use of this life? It seems pointless M: It is like asking what is the use of sleeping? Perhaps in a larger life, life and death are like waking and sleeping. The day can be compared to life. I am not saying it is. Only a comparison A: (Says something again about how life remains pointless) M: But why do you feel so bad about it? A: But there is nothing so good about it either M: Good and bad: These are things that you do not feel when you are in balance. Suppose this tree is there, and it thinks that it cannot walk! If it has a mind, it would feel bad? A: Yes, MasterIt would feel bad. M: Suppose that mind is regulated? Happiness and sorrow, good and bad, bliss and misery, these are the effects of an unregulated mind. Instead of the pendulum swinging between the extremes, try to bring it a rest, and then see the effect. (Pause) It is said that the cells in the body changes every 28 minutes or so! But we feel the same always. I am always the same to myself. This fixity in our feeling is false. But if that fixity is not there, I cannot exist as myself. Take a clock that has all these moving gears. There is a large gear that moves, and say, a small gear that goes around it 16 times for each rotation of the larger gear. This is also rotating, that is also rotating. Is it the same? No. Is it separated? No. It is like, we feel fixed since we are on Earth. We do not feel the motion. When we move, it is relative to Earth, which is fixed. And the moon moves by itself, but is fixed relative to the Earth. And similarly the Earth moves around the Sun and the solar system around the galaxy. This is called the universal dance. There is harmony between everything. Now, if the harmony is disturbed in one place, it will result in destruction. Every movement has to be connected to something fixed. Like a wheel moves but is connected to an axle, which is fixed. I have told once that if you need to destroy a structure, find the weakest point and create a small explosion. That is enough. It is not necessary to use a huge force. To destroy a wheel, cut the axle and there is no wheel! If you start chopping away at the rim At the time of Mahapralaya, all that would be required is to create an imbalance. One transmission to create the imbalance, and that is it! (Pause) Once a boy asked me What do you do in Meditation? And I said Nothing! The boy asked But how can you do nothing? I told him Try it. It is very difficult! In meditation, we successfully do nothing. The other way to do nothing is like a decrepit fellow who is lying in his bed, doing nothing. That is to do nothing unsuccessfully. This is to successfully do nothing. I am in this dress right now (He just had a sleeveless banian and a towel over His shoulders). It is 20 degrees Celsius now but I do not feel cold. For here, this is right. This is because there is balance inside me. In Madras, 30 degrees Celsius would be normal, and 20 degrees would be cold. Bliss is perfect balance between happiness and unhappiness, good and bad. There is a story in the Upanishad about Samsara (Sanskrit word for The journey of life). A man is falling, when he grabs a tree root and holds on. He looks down and it is a pit full of poisonous snakes. He looks up and sees a rat gnawing away at the root he is holding on to. At this time, a bee drops a drop of honey onto his lips. He tastes that and feels happy, forgetting for the moment, both the rat and the poisonous snakes beneath. Samsara is depicted thus, in the Upanishads There are people who stay in a pit of very poisonous snakes for a world record 36 hours, 100 hours, etc. Nothing happens. When there is balance within, they will not do anything. There is another story about Surrender in the Upanishads. A man is falling in the dark and he holds on to something, and he is hanging there. Not being able to see in the dark as to how deep it is to the ground, he continues to hold on, in spite of the immense pain in his hands. And when morning comes, he sees that he is only two centimeters from the ground! Therein comes the necessity for surrender and faith, and letting go. It could be that snake pit from the other story but that is where faith and surrender comes in. An abhaysi there recollected a talk given by Master in Pithoragarh in 1989. The contents of that talk is written here, as it gave a lot of insight on how to be, in His presence: There are two things that we should be able to perceive Transmission and Radiation. Transmission is a willed activity by the Master, whereas radiation is an involuntary process that happens due to His elevated spiritual state. When there is stillness in the body and stillness in the mind, we will be able to perceive these. This stillness should also be associated with awareness/consciousness of the presence of the Master. And when we are able to be like that, the Master also feels that the person is ready to receive and is able to give. This consciousness of the Master is very essential. Even the Master has had a chowkidhar (watchman for His home) for the last 8 years in His home, but he is not going to get anything, because the consciousness is not there. Whereas a person coming from Timbuktu or Africa for one month undergoes total transformation.
November 28, 2001, (Noon Satkhol)
Babuji has said that if we are able to remember Him for 7 days continuously, then it cannot be stopped. The process will continue ever after. Here, the ever after is also after death. A: But how to make those 7 days? M: You do not remember because you do not make it yours. We do not say My Master, My Mission, My method. We say I am part of this mission. See? Whereas, we say this is my car. You should make the mission yours, the work yours. There is no ownership at all in India. People do not think of things to be theirs. You travel in a train, soil the toilet and leave it like that because you do not feel it to be yours. It is okay is the attitude. The next guy will clean it. How do we care attitude is what prevails. Some foreigner who visited Bharath (Another name for India) said that he was not able to find one Bharathi. It was all Marwadi, Gujarathi, etc. (pause) Do you know that about 36% of the men in Europe now are not capable of having children? Initially, people in Europe did not want to have children, because of the responsibilities involved. And nature seems to co-operate. It says you do not want to have children. Okay. Now you are not able to have children. (pause) The real idea is to have, without pocessing. You can pocess only very small things. Say, a diamond It is very small. How rich can a rich man get? Whereas, take the Himalayas. Everyone can have it and enjoy it. If you want something that everyone wants, you cannot get it. On how He found the Himalayan ashram: If you let the divine do the work, then, everything will happen. Either the divine can work or the ego can work. Both cannot co-exist. In the morning, Master was dressed in a very simple but strikingly simple shirt, with a beautiful blue, pullover. Someone commented that His coat was good. Someone else said the same thing, to which Master quipped People say Your coat is good. Your jacket is good. Nobody appreciates what is inside.
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It offers an insight in the world view of Chari, the current self-appointed Guru of SRCM (California) and President of the SRCM (Chennai) registered in California in 1997. SRCM (California) is a splinter that allegedly took-over the organizational structure and properties of SRCM (Shahjahanpur) that was founded and registered in India, in 1945 by Shri Ram Chandra of Shahjahanpur. Chari's SRCM (California) was registered in Californial, in 1997 and a court dispute began with the family of the founder and the Board of Directors of the SRCM (Shahjahanpur). The Board of Directors accepted the son of the Founder, Umesh Saxena as the legitimate successor of his father, Ram Chandra. That case will be decided and ruled on at the end of Sept, 2008 by the Supreme Court of India.
THE TRANSCRIPT (only the highlights and the paragraphing are mine)
November 18th, 2001 Chennai Airport... en route to New Delhi
Commenting about the Indians in the USA: (Transcription)
India is a land where you can enjoy money. You fellows make it and put it away. Here, for one hundredth of what you get there, you can really People who live in west, the rich people, they make a merit out of this. I mean, if you want to employ a driver, it would probably cost you as much as And he will have overtime. And he will come and sit with you in your drawing room. If you are a drinker, he will drink your beer. He wont even ask you. He will go to the fridge, pull it out and he will ask you Hey boss, you wanna beer? And he will address you by name. You know, my uncle was FAO (Foreign Services), what do they call it? UNDP expert in Jordan. He built a 1 sq. km forest in the desert at a cost of USD 1 billion! Long ago. It was a showpiece for Jordan. All the VIPs, the king took there & he was the kings personal friend. 1 Sq. Km, eh! And they were going to extend it! And he had a driver who had a long Arabic dress He would come in and say Batern I am thirsty. Go help yourself. And he was paid a fat sum, you see. And I think in those days, when I was a humble executive in TTK, he would probably do 50 times my salary a driver! So, I asked my uncle Whether you will ask your driver to come and sit in your room? Here you have to brush against beggars, against cheats, against crooks, because you are out here for nothing more than money. And, that is what I am saying, you just keep moving to a bigger house, financing your mortgage, and finally after 20 years, you want to come back and you find that you have 50 K in the bank, some 75 K in pension funds, which you will get when you are 66, and nothing else. And I wonder what the hell you have been doing with the money you earned? Paying the banks! Typical American life. And to delude themselves with the feeling that they are having fun, gallon flagons of ice cream, giant jumbo bottles of Pepsi, and frozen pizza which you can warm in whatever-you-call-it! Now, we even get French fries! Shiva Shiva. At least, if they wisely save some money and come back, it is a good thing. Is it not? But they do not even do that.
November 21, 2001. (7 a.m.) Dehradun
(While addressing a family, about to be newly introduced to the system, after he had spoken to them about the system for about 1 hour)
It is an important thing this that when we accept a Master, we accept Him completely. It is not that He is only a Master for spirituality, and we look to others for other things. I have had migraine from the age of 16. So, once Babuji asked me about this, and I told Him that I have had it for a long time. He took me to a Hakim (Muslim curer), who gave me some medicine. Now this medicine needed to be boiled in water, and when we did that it used to gut the whole place with an awful smell. Whenever my wife used to prepare the medicine in the kitchen, the smell used to spread throughout the house. My father used to come running and ask what is this? What are you doing here? And then he used to say that the guru is only for your spiritual needs & you have no business to be taking medicines from Him. But, I never stopped it. After a while, Babuji asked me if there was any improvement & I said, there was none. Then, He said Now it is in Gods hands. Perhaps God did take mercy on me later, that my migraine stopped on its own in a few years! 8:20 a.m. Nationality should be used for the right purpose. We are all different, yet we are one should be the attitude. Instead, we say There is no difference between us and hence we are one. This is wrong. It is strange as to how soon the mighty become powerless. The USA used to be terrified of the Soviet. Today, the US is lording over the world because there is no opposition. I expectI anticipate the US to break up. I mean, take Yugoslavia. When it can break up, when Slovenia, which is half the size of Kerla (a small state in India) can manage itselfand Croatia is even smaller than Slovenia, can manage itself, why not? Texas is a huge state. So is Alaska. It will all (He gestures with His hands as if a whole is getting split into so many fragments). For a democracy, there needs to be a balance of power; Whether it is a country or the world. In todays world, there is no balance of power. That is why the US is lording over the world. There is no opposition. It is no good for the world at all. (Someone begins to argue) Master says emphatically See, I am not talking about economics, politics, history or geography. I am talking about the fundamental principle of the need for balance. We are (ideally) talking about a world where everyone is happy because everyone has, and things are shared. We are not even thinking of such an aim. India is a happy country. Politics has not had any effect on the average person in India. If anything, for the average person, the election is a means of earning money. He will take Rs.50 from 3 parties, promising each one that he would vote for them. So, democracy does have a way of redistributing the wealth! In India, there is a saying Aaya Ram, Gaya Ram (Ram came & Ram went). Politicians come and go, and it has absolutely no effect on the common man. The politicians fight in the parliament, fight each other, and the people are untouched, and happy! Politicians come and go, but the situation has remained unchanged for the past few hundred years. It is a very amusing country. (Pause) When the Iraq war was fought, the US did not spend one penny! Saudi gave USD 9 billion. France gave $3 billion. So, all these stupid countries gave money, and they (USA) replenish all their weaponry, test all the new weapons at these peoples expense! (Pause) When you have interest, you will remember what you hear. Babuji used to ask I do not remember what you say myself, but how do you remember? But now, I find that I do not remember what I say myself! (To someone new who just walked in during his breakfast, wanting to spend some time with him) I am going to satsangh now. We have puja at 9oclock. I should be back by lunch. (The new person asks whether he can come back and meet Him). Master says Yes, Yes. Please come back. I am here to serve you. Please come during lunch (The humility with which He said this was amazing). Someone told Master that there are no preceptors in their center, to which Master quipped There are 4 preceptors here also, but there seems to be no results either. So, just continue the work.
November 22, 2001, 8 a.m. (Dehradun)
While looking at the blueprints for the upcoming meditation hall at another close-by city, Master asked a couple of financial questions. After some hesitation, someone said Master. Cannot say this in public. Master declared unequivocally that He wants absolute transparency in accounting. He said this forcefully enough to prevail well over the mild protests put forth. Then, one quipped, all right, Master. We will put it up on the notice board. Master said you are either in this extreme or in the other extreme. There has to be a balance. While talking about the size and dimensions of the meditation hall, Master was clear that the size should be such that it caters to the immediate needs and should not plan for large gatherings that happen occasionally. When someone asked him about the shape of the meditation hall needing to be rectangular in shape, Master agreed and said that the current idea is to be modular. It should be capable of being extended. What is the use of going in for a hexagonal shape! (A few days later, I observed that the shape of the meditation hall in Satkhol is Pentagonal! And Master touched upon the topic of how there will always be a restriction at Satkhol on the number of people at any time. In elaborating on the reason for this constraint, He said It is not a problem with food. I can feed 100,000 people. It is the water. Currently, we use up about Liters of water every day. We cannot afford to consume any more, for it will upset the availability of water supply.) Later, He pulled up a preceptor and said You walk away from sittings, you give 10 minute sittings, and you have started a girl at the age of 13 saying that she is very special. When he protested, Master said that the source of Ganga needs to be at some height for the water to reach so far! 12:30 p.m. On why a lady cannot be a Master Babuji said that a Master of that caliber gets orders from above, and their work includes that of destruction. A woman is not capable of such destruction. All this talk about equality between men and woman the more they talk about something, the less they will get it. Equality is different from equalization. There are high pressure and low pressure areas. In the process of equalization, the wind flows from here to there, and this process if what creates the climate. If the pressure were the same everywhere, there would be no climate. This is the way of nature: Inequality Equalization Inequality Equalization (alluding to a low pressure building, winds blowing from other high pressure areas, another low pressure building up, etc.) Today you see American woman trying to do everything that the male does. They join the navy seals. It is not a job for them. I might offend the woman here, but God did not create both as equals. Each have their own sphere of functioning. On wastage When someone offered Him a paper napkin (after He had eaten something, He refused and wiped His mouth with the towel on His shoulder. He said I do not use paper. I am a believer in not wasting. (Someone commented about the wastage in America). Master said that there is a tremendous amount of wastage there. He had heard from someone that 56% of the New York Times gets recycled, unopened & unsold, and yet they were making a profit. And when they recycle, they will write it so prominently, in bold as RECYCLED. In India, everything is recycled at least a 100 times. On Caution, in the USA When He was staying at one of the best hotels in Grand Canyon last year, the toilet seat was a bit raised & once you open the flap, it was written in red Caution. This water is not potable! Master said that He took a photograph of it, and gave it to somebody and asked him to send it to the president of the chain of hotels and ask Whom is this sign meant for? I mean, Are Americans so dumb that this has to be told to them? This is all because of the fear of lawsuits. (Somebody quipped about the incident when McDonalds was successfully sued for a million dollars when someone spilled hot coffee in her lap & sued that the coffee was too hot). Master said Yes, Yes. And they want the coffee piping hot, mind you! Now, there is also the case of smokers suing the companies because cigarette smoking harmed their health, When everyone knows this is a fact! In America, Sue and be damned! On manufacturing & Exports & the many products being imported from China Now, it is the thinking to manufacture what they can do well, and earn through exports. And import things that they cannot manufacture well. It is better than manufacturing bad goods for themselves. (Someone asked Master to confirm that weeping is not good, spiritually speaking) Weeping is not bad, per se, but it should not become a habit. We usually weep when we are in pain or in misery. Such weeping is out of self-pity and is absolutely useless. We should not weep at our own weakness, and misery. But you will see people weeping when they are happy. It is due to a feeling of gratitude that wells up from within them, which brings tears to the eyes.
November 25, 2001, 8:45 a.m. (Satkhol)
Before the morning satsangh, the door of the meditation hall was left open, and Master asked someone to close it. After this was done, an abhyasi walked in, leaving the door open again. This was closed, only for the same scene to happen yet again! Master said In the West, they have a habit to leave things as they were. If a door is open, they will leave the door open. If a door was closed, they will close the door behind them. They will leave things as they find it. This practice makes life very simple. There are many things we should learn from the West. It is the Indians who have the arrogance to leave things any which way. Some closes a doorSomeone opens a doorIt is a mess. (LaterAn abhyasi recalled a dream in which he saw Lalaji asBabuji as Love, and Chariji as Discipline). Master recalled Babujis directive in Paris (1982) to Him to bring discipline into the mission. But there are several people still in the mission who are undisciplined. So saying, He turned and looked at a girl who was sitting right next to Him (As if He was saying this to her). And almost immediately, she began to wipe off some tears from the corner of her eyes. And Master, looking at this, said: Now, Dont you start. I do not understand woman at all. Say the slightest of things harshly, and they begin to create a scene. It appears that I should only talk about superficial things like the food, the weather, etc. to them. Anything stronger than that, they cannot take it. I do not know what Mami (referring to His late wife) will think about all this. Maybe she will pull me up for what I am saying now, once I get to the brighter world. I do not know whether I am going there or not, but she is there. Babuji is saying You are doing good work. So continue doing it. You have built Satkhol. Go on, and build more places like this Master said that, in 2005, we would have a new ashram in Uttar Kashi, which is the place where the Sapta Rishis(the Seven Sages governing the Universe) came down to the Earth to meditate. He also talked about an ashram in the place where Pathanjali had his ashram
November 26, 2001, 2 p.m. Satkhol A(irport):
What is the use of this life? It seems pointless M: It is like asking what is the use of sleeping? Perhaps in a larger life, life and death are like waking and sleeping. The day can be compared to life. I am not saying it is. Only a comparison A: (Says something again about how life remains pointless) M: But why do you feel so bad about it? A: But there is nothing so good about it either M: Good and bad: These are things that you do not feel when you are in balance. Suppose this tree is there, and it thinks that it cannot walk! If it has a mind, it would feel bad? A: Yes, MasterIt would feel bad. M: Suppose that mind is regulated? Happiness and sorrow, good and bad, bliss and misery, these are the effects of an unregulated mind. Instead of the pendulum swinging between the extremes, try to bring it a rest, and then see the effect. (Pause) It is said that the cells in the body changes every 28 minutes or so! But we feel the same always. I am always the same to myself. This fixity in our feeling is false. But if that fixity is not there, I cannot exist as myself. Take a clock that has all these moving gears. There is a large gear that moves, and say, a small gear that goes around it 16 times for each rotation of the larger gear. This is also rotating, that is also rotating. Is it the same? No. Is it separated? No. It is like, we feel fixed since we are on Earth. We do not feel the motion. When we move, it is relative to Earth, which is fixed. And the moon moves by itself, but is fixed relative to the Earth. And similarly the Earth moves around the Sun and the solar system around the galaxy. This is called the universal dance. There is harmony between everything. Now, if the harmony is disturbed in one place, it will result in destruction. Every movement has to be connected to something fixed. Like a wheel moves but is connected to an axle, which is fixed. I have told once that if you need to destroy a structure, find the weakest point and create a small explosion. That is enough. It is not necessary to use a huge force. To destroy a wheel, cut the axle and there is no wheel! If you start chopping away at the rim At the time of Mahapralaya, all that would be required is to create an imbalance. One transmission to create the imbalance, and that is it! (Pause) Once a boy asked me What do you do in Meditation? And I said Nothing! The boy asked But how can you do nothing? I told him Try it. It is very difficult! In meditation, we successfully do nothing. The other way to do nothing is like a decrepit fellow who is lying in his bed, doing nothing. That is to do nothing unsuccessfully. This is to successfully do nothing. I am in this dress right now (He just had a sleeveless banian and a towel over His shoulders). It is 20 degrees Celsius now but I do not feel cold. For here, this is right. This is because there is balance inside me. In Madras, 30 degrees Celsius would be normal, and 20 degrees would be cold. Bliss is perfect balance between happiness and unhappiness, good and bad. There is a story in the Upanishad about Samsara (Sanskrit word for The journey of life). A man is falling, when he grabs a tree root and holds on. He looks down and it is a pit full of poisonous snakes. He looks up and sees a rat gnawing away at the root he is holding on to. At this time, a bee drops a drop of honey onto his lips. He tastes that and feels happy, forgetting for the moment, both the rat and the poisonous snakes beneath. Samsara is depicted thus, in the Upanishads There are people who stay in a pit of very poisonous snakes for a world record 36 hours, 100 hours, etc. Nothing happens. When there is balance within, they will not do anything. There is another story about Surrender in the Upanishads. A man is falling in the dark and he holds on to something, and he is hanging there. Not being able to see in the dark as to how deep it is to the ground, he continues to hold on, in spite of the immense pain in his hands. And when morning comes, he sees that he is only two centimeters from the ground! Therein comes the necessity for surrender and faith, and letting go. It could be that snake pit from the other story but that is where faith and surrender comes in. An abhaysi there recollected a talk given by Master in Pithoragarh in 1989. The contents of that talk is written here, as it gave a lot of insight on how to be, in His presence: There are two things that we should be able to perceive Transmission and Radiation. Transmission is a willed activity by the Master, whereas radiation is an involuntary process that happens due to His elevated spiritual state. When there is stillness in the body and stillness in the mind, we will be able to perceive these. This stillness should also be associated with awareness/consciousness of the presence of the Master. And when we are able to be like that, the Master also feels that the person is ready to receive and is able to give. This consciousness of the Master is very essential. Even the Master has had a chowkidhar (watchman for His home) for the last 8 years in His home, but he is not going to get anything, because the consciousness is not there. Whereas a person coming from Timbuktu or Africa for one month undergoes total transformation.
November 28, 2001, (Noon Satkhol)
Babuji has said that if we are able to remember Him for 7 days continuously, then it cannot be stopped. The process will continue ever after. Here, the ever after is also after death. A: But how to make those 7 days? M: You do not remember because you do not make it yours. We do not say My Master, My Mission, My method. We say I am part of this mission. See? Whereas, we say this is my car. You should make the mission yours, the work yours. There is no ownership at all in India. People do not think of things to be theirs. You travel in a train, soil the toilet and leave it like that because you do not feel it to be yours. It is okay is the attitude. The next guy will clean it. How do we care attitude is what prevails. Some foreigner who visited Bharath (Another name for India) said that he was not able to find one Bharathi. It was all Marwadi, Gujarathi, etc. (pause) Do you know that about 36% of the men in Europe now are not capable of having children? Initially, people in Europe did not want to have children, because of the responsibilities involved. And nature seems to co-operate. It says you do not want to have children. Okay. Now you are not able to have children. (pause) The real idea is to have, without pocessing. You can pocess only very small things. Say, a diamond It is very small. How rich can a rich man get? Whereas, take the Himalayas. Everyone can have it and enjoy it. If you want something that everyone wants, you cannot get it. On how He found the Himalayan ashram: If you let the divine do the work, then, everything will happen. Either the divine can work or the ego can work. Both cannot co-exist. In the morning, Master was dressed in a very simple but strikingly simple shirt, with a beautiful blue, pullover. Someone commented that His coat was good. Someone else said the same thing, to which Master quipped People say Your coat is good. Your jacket is good. Nobody appreciates what is inside.
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