Flawed theology nearing PAST Mythology status!
Hi ALL....
Here is another "flawed theology" that has been used by religions and sects for centuries...
First the flawed theology of: God is MALE...that controls the FEMALES...
Then Pinpointing the LOCATION of the contact with the "outer" DIVINE who (male person) was once thought to be "OUTSIDE" His (male) CREATION but is now thought to be n...dimensional and "NON LOCAL"...or everywhere (in and outside of it's UNIVERSE) and everywhen AT ONCE...AT THE SAME TIME...
This past religious "TRIBAL MYTH" is still swallowed willingly by those who can't conceive of "N....dimensions" of SPACE or in TIME, a collective evolutionary experience that is described by a mathematical construct from 18th century Europe. We live in a MULTI-dimensional WORLD and not simply one of "VULGAR SPACE" (3d) with GOD, the MALE, "RESIDING" in the 4th dimension, or outside of HIS (male) Creation, ALL!
Our kids are playing with bits and bytes...and our religions (and now our "so called" SPIRITUALITY) are still APOCALYPTIC! That sure gives the next generation some HOPE for the FUTURE, eh? Is that scare tactics or "INTELLECTUAL TERRORISM"?
Chari's Full Speech: http://srcm.org/members/24july2007/message.jsp
The heart is the seat of the soul. This knowledge is not widespread; it is reserved for followers of spirituality, capable of going further into knowledge.
We should not feel discouraged if we do not reach this shore as quickly as we would like to; perseverance is our best guarantee of success. We have to pursue our search tirelessly, it is the ultimate goal of the real being which resides in us, and is thirsting for this sublime fulfillment
One can see how the "heart", being the PUMP and hence making noise (thump) and with a rhythm, (hypnotic and soothing), would be thought of as a "CONTACT POINT" with the energy or SOUND and RHYTHM of the OUTSIDE... To assume THAT to be the Divine and hence the "center" or the Diving connection point is simply a "TRIBAL MYTH" and part of RELIGIOUS LORE...not SPIRITUAL LORE...
The BRAIN, by that same LOGIC should be a "HIGHER CONNECTION POINT" as it has an EM frequency (5-8 hz) and must also hum to a very high SOUND...so is also a CONTACT POINT with the DIVINE or the HIGHER ENERGY...But that would be another selling of yet another MYTH to the NAIVE...
The "Non-local" nature of the DIVINE is what can't be sold because the DIVINE, by its "non-locality", is near every-point and no PROXY for the DIVINE can come between that connection. So we can say that the DIVINE is CONNECTED NON-LOCALLY to US ALL....
We don't have to BUY or SWALLOW more flawed theology or "religious tribal myths" because we, as ADULTS, can now think further than that "URBAN MYTH" (or Tribal MYTH)
That knowledge (or lack of...) was widespread at some time in the past, but is now "LOSING GROUND to the "higher knowledge" of a "non-locally" connected HOMO SAPIENS to his/her ONE (the Divine within ALL (the E(ternal)-TRINITY of: everything, everywhere, everywhen). That is the NEW: E-TRINITY....E-TRINITY is ETERNAL!
E-TRINITY = ... no beginning,...-3,-2,-1, 0 +1,+2,+3,... no end...
The ONE (no gender, not a person) as IT (no gender) is expressed in this MILKY WAY GALAXY (for those with a galactic consciousness), is, at the very least, a REALITY of an "OCTAVE of Dimensions" (7+1 for a eightfold (octave of) MOTION that through MOTION, then creates MATTER (sub-atomic, atomic, molecular... matter). We already know of the Octave-quality of SOUND, and LIGHT and the charged (energy) properties of Matter...we now have E=MC\2).
THE "ONE" is ETERNAL...and is Multi-dimensionally connected to everyBODY...NOT JUST AT THE HEART, (the BLOOD CENTER) or at the LOWLY PUMP... or at the BRAIN, the NERVE CENTER (with its EM FIELD)! ...
THEN MEDITATION MAKES SENSE but not to a person or a guru, but "with" THE ONE (and with the ALL...everyONE) ....Not seperate or DIVIDED anymore, but UNITED or ONE....
OTHER RELIGIOUS MYTHS....
* God is MALE. Nature is FEMALE. Chari on SRCM
http://www.spiritualityfoundation.org/youth/story92.htmlsite
* Roman Catholic priests erase sins in the "confession" in the name of Christ (part of God).
SRCM erases "samskaras" in the name of Chari or Babuji...Lalaji would have nothing to do with that "flawed teachings".
* Jerusalem, Mecca, Rome, etc...are HOLY LANDS as opposed to the rest of the Planet, our Earthly home!
* Christians give themselves to Christ and think and suggest that Christ is in their hearts and acting in their place.
SRCM abhaysis become "living dead" and with "constant remembrance" think that Chari or Babuji is acting in their place.
* Catholics travel to Rome, Christians to Jerusalem, SRCM abhyasis to India and follow Chari around the world so as to be SAVED or BLESSED as the EARTH chokes and yells in fumes and gas. THE SEARCH FOR GOD sells well to the Religious adept.
* Most Religons have a "heaven" on the "other side" as a place for "rewards" and a Hell as a place for "punishment"
SRCM has a "Brighter World" from where Babuji and other elevated souls such as Chari's mother, sends messages to a French (female) Medium that are later compiled into a book and sold for a small donation of $250.00US.
* On and on... and on and on ....
PS...Chari's Full Speech: http://www.sahajmarg.org/web/guest/literature/online/speeches/the-eternal-connection
Here is another "flawed theology" that has been used by religions and sects for centuries...
First the flawed theology of: God is MALE...that controls the FEMALES...
Then Pinpointing the LOCATION of the contact with the "outer" DIVINE who (male person) was once thought to be "OUTSIDE" His (male) CREATION but is now thought to be n...dimensional and "NON LOCAL"...or everywhere (in and outside of it's UNIVERSE) and everywhen AT ONCE...AT THE SAME TIME...
This past religious "TRIBAL MYTH" is still swallowed willingly by those who can't conceive of "N....dimensions" of SPACE or in TIME, a collective evolutionary experience that is described by a mathematical construct from 18th century Europe. We live in a MULTI-dimensional WORLD and not simply one of "VULGAR SPACE" (3d) with GOD, the MALE, "RESIDING" in the 4th dimension, or outside of HIS (male) Creation, ALL!
Our kids are playing with bits and bytes...and our religions (and now our "so called" SPIRITUALITY) are still APOCALYPTIC! That sure gives the next generation some HOPE for the FUTURE, eh? Is that scare tactics or "INTELLECTUAL TERRORISM"?
Chari's Full Speech: http://srcm.org/members/24july2007/mess
The heart is the seat of the soul. This knowledge is not widespread; it is reserved for followers of spirituality, capable of going further into knowledge.
We should not feel discouraged if we do not reach this shore as quickly as we would like to; perseverance is our best guarantee of success. We have to pursue our search tirelessly, it is the ultimate goal of the real being which resides in us, and is thirsting for this sublime fulfillment
One can see how the "heart", being the PUMP and hence making noise (thump) and with a rhythm, (hypnotic and soothing), would be thought of as a "CONTACT POINT" with the energy or SOUND and RHYTHM of the OUTSIDE... To assume THAT to be the Divine and hence the "center" or the Diving connection point is simply a "TRIBAL MYTH" and part of RELIGIOUS LORE...not SPIRITUAL LORE...
The BRAIN, by that same LOGIC should be a "HIGHER CONNECTION POINT" as it has an EM frequency (5-8 hz) and must also hum to a very high SOUND...so is also a CONTACT POINT with the DIVINE or the HIGHER ENERGY...But that would be another selling of yet another MYTH to the NAIVE...
The "Non-local" nature of the DIVINE is what can't be sold because the DIVINE, by its "non-locality", is near every-point and no PROXY for the DIVINE can come between that connection. So we can say that the DIVINE is CONNECTED NON-LOCALLY to US ALL....
We don't have to BUY or SWALLOW more flawed theology or "religious tribal myths" because we, as ADULTS, can now think further than that "URBAN MYTH" (or Tribal MYTH)
That knowledge (or lack of...) was widespread at some time in the past, but is now "LOSING GROUND to the "higher knowledge" of a "non-locally" connected HOMO SAPIENS to his/her ONE (the Divine within ALL (the E(ternal)-TRINITY of: everything, everywhere, everywhen). That is the NEW: E-TRINITY....E-TRINITY is ETERNAL!
E-TRINITY = ... no beginning,...-3,-2,-1, 0 +1,+2,+3,... no end...
The ONE (no gender, not a person) as IT (no gender) is expressed in this MILKY WAY GALAXY (for those with a galactic consciousness), is, at the very least, a REALITY of an "OCTAVE of Dimensions" (7+1 for a eightfold (octave of) MOTION that through MOTION, then creates MATTER (sub-atomic, atomic, molecular... matter). We already know of the Octave-quality of SOUND, and LIGHT and the charged (energy) properties of Matter...we now have E=MC\2).
THE "ONE" is ETERNAL...and is Multi-dimensionally connected to everyBODY...NOT JUST AT THE HEART, (the BLOOD CENTER) or at the LOWLY PUMP... or at the BRAIN, the NERVE CENTER (with its EM FIELD)! ...
THEN MEDITATION MAKES SENSE but not to a person or a guru, but "with" THE ONE (and with the ALL...everyONE) ....Not seperate or DIVIDED anymore, but UNITED or ONE....
OTHER RELIGIOUS MYTHS....
* God is MALE. Nature is FEMALE. Chari on SRCM
http://www.spiritualityfoundation.org/youth/story92.htmlsite
* Roman Catholic priests erase sins in the "confession" in the name of Christ (part of God).
SRCM erases "samskaras" in the name of Chari or Babuji...Lalaji would have nothing to do with that "flawed teachings".
* Jerusalem, Mecca, Rome, etc...are HOLY LANDS as opposed to the rest of the Planet, our Earthly home!
* Christians give themselves to Christ and think and suggest that Christ is in their hearts and acting in their place.
SRCM abhaysis become "living dead" and with "constant remembrance" think that Chari or Babuji is acting in their place.
* Catholics travel to Rome, Christians to Jerusalem, SRCM abhyasis to India and follow Chari around the world so as to be SAVED or BLESSED as the EARTH chokes and yells in fumes and gas. THE SEARCH FOR GOD sells well to the Religious adept.
* Most Religons have a "heaven" on the "other side" as a place for "rewards" and a Hell as a place for "punishment"
SRCM has a "Brighter World" from where Babuji and other elevated souls such as Chari's mother, sends messages to a French (female) Medium that are later compiled into a book and sold for a small donation of $250.00US.
* On and on... and on and on ....
PS...Chari's Full Speech: http://www.sahajmarg.org/web/guest/literature/online/speeches/the-eternal-connection
5 comments:
Hi All,
I am a practising abhyasi of SRCM for past several years. These blogs are eye opener, thanks to DON. I can relate so many thigs now with the recent happenings. The only problem I find with SRCM is that it has been captured by influential and rich people and Chariji has become host to such people. The love, compassion and simplicity which existed in Babuji's time has disappeared. Babuji was really a nature's charisma, I can tell this by personal experience. While I refute any allegations of immorality and abuse of females, I do admit that financial expenditure and focus is a point of concern and abhyasis need to know the reality about the fund generated and spent. Chariji's close caucus seems to misuse the mission money and property. The high ego is visible in the people around chariji which is despicable. I think we should use power of Right to Informatiom (RTI) act of government of India to know about use of SMSF funds. If there is irregularity, lets approach media (television) and expose this so that people of SRCM at a large scale know about their future and use of their money. If you need any help you can write to me in this blog and address me Babaji. I am a seeker and want to save people from any such scandals to save their lives.
Love to the MASTER.
BABAJI
HI Babaji...
Thanks for your candid comments...I was a practicing abhyasi also and was a "really involved" Roman Catholic before the "abuses" started coming out and I was forced to tell my story publicly...It was "devastating" and I simpatize with those like you, are good people, and honest searchers...
I agree with you that SRCM was a lot more SPIRITUAL with Babuji...With Chari, it has becoome SPIRITUALISM with messages from the "DECEASED SPIRITS" of many, not only Babuji...so where is the need for any writings by CHARI? Just give the MESSAGES FROM BABUJI and let us know the name of the MEDIUM so we can question her on her SPIRITUALITY...
I feel sad and sorry for Babuji who wanted a true SPIRITUALITY but Dr. Varadachari, who was more of a "THINKER" than Chari would not have brought the MISSION to this LOW MATERIALISM...Babuji did not address that PROPERLY or maybe he did...BUT IT IS A SPIRITUALISM MESS and DIVIDES the families in the countries it targets...NO thinking person can adhere to that "children's games" that SRCM has become...
Nice to hear from a person with such "well thought out" ideas such as yourself...
4d-don
Hi Babaji...
I posted your comment on the French blog of Elodie's, called "The Desperate Abhyasi" or "Pour Que Vive le Sahaj Marg", and where there is a discussion on Sahaj Marg.
They have requested for some "clarifications" to your statements...
You say "The only problem I find with SRCM is that it has been captured by influential and rich people and Chariji has become host to such people."...Do you know that for a fact? Why do you think that it is not "Chari" who is in charge and orchestrating the whole thing?
You can understand that for the "old abhyasis", they have witnessed the take-over by Chari and his "gang", that included his father and some from the Seth Ballaram Group (Vikram Group) or from the other nationalist "Technical school" in India, BRCM (notice the Similarity of names? Apparently, they still get funding from this Group (BRCM) through their "charities" and Fondations. Do you know anything about this?
How can you .... refute any allegations of immorality and abuse of females, I do admit that financial expenditure and focus is a point of concern and abhyasis need to know the reality about the fund generated and spent. Chariji's close caucus seems to misuse the mission money and property.
You were obviously not "invited" if there were abuses...You know of the abuse articles carried in the Pioneer, the Indian Daily and the subsequent court cases by abhyasis?
Do you know of any evidence of"misuse of Money" at SRCM or SMSF yourself? Do you question and are you concerned?
You say: If there is irregularity, lets approach media (television) and expose this so that people of SRCM at a large scale know about their future and use of their money.
Any credible media is not going to even consider any allegations without hard "evidence"...Do you have any hard evidence? If you did, would you go to the MEDIA with it?
Your statements sparked some interest in Europe (France) and they asked me to ask you to clarify...they have seen the "drifting" in SRCM from the advent of Chari and his GANG...Many have left and are now in KC Narayana's group: Institute of Ram Chandra Consciousness (ISRC) but are still sharing their experience with the "lost sheep" of Sahaj Marg...
Thanks for your candor...
4d-don...
Hi Don,
thanks for writing. I am not the one in the close circuit of Chariji so I can not produce any balancesheet or financial statement to prove mismanagment of money but it is evidentfrom the prevailing culture of the mission. There is materialism and facilities like canteen etc are given revenue (and profit) targets which I think should ideally be provided at no profilt no loss basis to provide best of services to fellow abhyasis. There is lot of stress for donation in Lucknow, Kanpur, Noida/Delhi centers to make big Ashrams. In Lucknow if you see the Master's cottage, you will feel what extravagence could be. Furnitures came from Calcutta, the finishing and detailing is comparable to a palace. I feel this could have been done in one fourth of the cost knowing the fact that the Master seldome comes to Lucknow. In Kanpur there was a dispute between Ramji Pandey and Ashish Singh's (very close to Chariji) regarding Ashram's land acquisition (remember Kanpur has already a 4 acre Ashram but they want to have a BIG piece of land now). All this clearly indicates that people are drifting from the REAL goal.
Why I say that the Master has become host to crooked is that I know politician Amarjit Singh, he is very degraded and immoral person but his family is very very close to Chariji. US Bajpayee is teh worst person I have seen in the mission, he was a corrupt IPS officer in UP bow become general secretary of SRCM. In SRCM India not all are businessmen but many people are fairly rich... Why?... because they are corrupt Government officers and most of them are center incharge or preceptors. During early 90's Chariji used to walk bare footed in the Ashram and he was far from luxury but now it is just the reverse. In most of the functions the decisions are being taken by local influential people who surround Chariji.
About the moral abuse.... I believe that in any large organisation there are all kind of people, some of them are obviously immoral. If a boy in a school suddenly opens fire (as heppened in Virginia recently) and kiils people, we can not say that the Principal of the school is himself a murderer. Whatever I know about Chariji is that is never indulged in moral corruption with girls as I know few girls who have been close to Master and were never harmed. If some preceptor or Abhyasi has abused a girl we can not blame Master for that. While I say I am not satisfied with the economy of the mission, I give clean chit to Master for his moral behaviour.
About the media.... we can spread the message across that most of the people (or many) are not satisfied because of recent developments and they can vote for this in a helpline number. We can publish such results and make a public debate which will expose the top guns of SRCM. Moreover as you say you already have hard proof about few things so lets bring that to public.
I hope I have covered most of the points, if you need any clarification please let me know.
Lovingly yours
Babaji
Hi Babaji...
Thanks for your clarification...
...in reply to your quote...
Moreover as you say you already have hard proof about few things so lets bring that to public.
All I have is on-line already, and I don't claim to have "hard proof" about anything...you must have me confused with someone else who calls "evidence" as "proof"... Nothing as far as I know is "proven" in a court of LAW about this whole affair...
4d-don...
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