This article was taken from Elodie's blog (France) and translated using Google Translate by 4d-don.
I have personally seen the same thing at "fundamentalist" Christian churches (Religion) where millions are raised by "charismatic" preachers for all sorts of "material" temples to the "glory of God". In this case, water fountains and landscaping for a park so as to make it look more "NATURAL" no doubt.
4d-Don
Master is worth his weight in gold
An unknown abhyasi sent me this transcript of Chariji's words of November 18, 2007 at Tiruppur without further comments.
Indeed it could go without comment. Chariji made the "collection", and benefits from the desire of every abhyasi to approach him, so as to pocket a passage ticket of 1,000 rupees ($25.50 US).
Elodie
Master led the satsangh until 9:50 in the morning (from 9 am to 9:50). After the satsangh, the head of Tiruppur center said that Master was stopped by very young children as he was heading to the meditation hall. They handed a small pot (plastic) filled with coins and they said to Master: "Use the money for the development of your ashram." So Master said, "Our children know exactly where their duty lies. Here also, we need to contribute to the development. "
Immediately Master took the microphone and said:" I am pleased with what's happening here and I am happy to be here. In many missions, it is customary to give a weight equal to that of the guru in gold, and even sometimes in diamonds. The guru can weigh 150 kg. The sum may unfortunately be spent freely, in the company of the film artists he enjoys. But here I hope you can all give like this (he shows the pot, which should weigh 5 kg). So, do not weigh me, please give the equivalent of these 5 kg - but only on condition that there are only 1000 rupee bills. I want the surface of this park at Tiruppur DJ to become like a paradise so that whoever flies over (Air) this site should be able to see this paradise from above.
Will you help me develop it? "
All abhyasis said, "Yes, Master"
Master: "OK, now on to the donation itself. "All abhyasis rushed to Master with 1000 rupee bills. Brothers and sisters at the same time formed a long queue, completely filling the hall and made a personal donation to Master. Master took the money from each of them, saying "Thank you. "
All abhyasis had a great opportunity to meet Master himself while giving some money. Several couples met Master so that he bless their wedding day, or name their child, etc. Which also happened in the line-up. Master joked with the children and gave chocolate to each of them and said: "It's very expensive chocolate now because it costs 1000 rupees here," and he was joking with all while collecting the money.
Master remained seated for more than two hours. Once all abhyasis had given, Master said, "When I made the Sarovar (water castle) here at this site, many asked me why it was so named. It is a KRIPA SAROVAR because today I took out hundreds of fish. I am extremely happy to welcome you all and to meet you. I can not say thank you, but I bless you all. "
It was a moment of great joy and Master left us after that. All abhyasis were filled with joy and they had the great opportunity to talk to him face to face, and Master took the trouble to sit more than two hours to make our happiness.
Sunday, December 30, 2007
Saturday, December 15, 2007
A Lesson in Ethics and Spirituality for all Sahaj Marg Followers
A Challenge to all Sahaj Marg followers of "good faith" and "Goodwill"!!
This is a comment left on Elodie's blog (in French) in France by Christian, an ex-abhyasi of 18 years and a research psychologist (linguistics).
Hello Élodie,
It's good that you re-publish an article on this subject.
One must remind all one's readers that there are more visible manifestations than the subtleties (psychological mechanisms and psychosocial), which we have analyzed and unveiled on our blogs over the past months.
While our analyses could be discussed (which does not necessarily mean that they are debatable), these events are completely indisputable! That is the reality of the facts.
We must launch a challenge to all abhyasis Chari to give a justification for such extreme as well as a-spiritual acts-if such a justification is possible.
How do these people do they do to maintain their coherence other than by closing their eyes?
How can they adhere to the teachings put forward by Chari when the actions Chari has his henchmen carry out are these actions are also openly criminal, and as openly against this teachings he claims to give?
It's certainly easier to discredit our criticism with the back of his hand.
Also, let us forget the personal history of the dissidents such as those who speak out on the blogs, to consider the psychological and spiritual implications of such violence.
What do these actions mean for Chari's followers?
Do they realize by this account, in what they are trapped?
They must think about it, and once their ideas become clearer, confront their master.
Are they afraid of getting the door slammed in their face?
Do they believe that they will be damned for eternity, or that their souls will be condemned to be reborn endlessly because the Master has not helped him(her), solely because they have dared to doubt him or criticize his actions?
Do they accept this implicit blackmail, this terrorizing?
Do they have so little faith?
The most fanatic will say that this is not Chari but his followers who have taken the liberty to do this, believing to thus please their beloved master ...
These people were thus sincere, and their actions come from a good intention ...
But: Is Chari the true master in charge of directing the team, or is it his entourage who decides and directs the mission?
Does Chari not have, according to the rules and regulations of his sect, all the powers in his hands?
In that case, why did he not exert a veto against any violent action on the ashram of Shahjahanpur?
And even if the action would have taken place in his back, it is unlikely that he is not aware of it today, now that the ashram of Shahjahanpur belongs to the SRCMtm.
If he is aware of it, why has he not returned the property with an apology and compensate the victims?
Because it satisfies him, as it finally places this ashram in the hands of the SRCMtm?
Another hypothesis: He has not done so because he is the sponsor of this armed robbery.
He would then be the greedy and violent fanatic who was seizing the ultimate symbol of power that that had eluded him, to claim faultless legitimacy in the eyes of the ignorant world.
Feeling his ends approaching and seeing that a negotiated settlement would not lead to a victory in his lifetime, he would have preferred to forget all the basic spiritual tenets he had received from his master and that he pretend to teach.
His pyramidal project, his work, "his mission", would have been more important.
The end justifies the means: How is it different from the basic rules that run the world?
Nothing new to the SRCMtm, the bottom line is always the same.
This ashram of Shahjahanpur was the supreme test for Chari, established for his sole purpose by his master (Babuji) to titillate his greed and his fanaticism.
Had he succeeded, it would lead him to eternity.
A supreme test of detachment: Even this one, he failed.
But no problem, he continues to preach the necessity of detachment to his followers, who décérébrés (without brain, lobotomized, brainwashed, zombie) by the spiritual and mental control under which they have fallen, see no contradiction anywhere.
Thus the history of the ashram of Shahjahanpur reveals that the predators of the SRCMtm are not just lions, wolves or sharks: They are also vultures ...
Although I do not know the people in Babuji's (SRCM Shahjahanpur), and I do not necessarily agree with their beliefs, I sympathize and I hope with all my heart that justice will be done.
I hope that the criminals, if they do not get a sudden enlightenment and repent and correct their mistakes, will be unmasked and punished as they deserve.
I also hope that everyone understands his duty, regardless of the camp in which he finds himself: To shed light on this sordid affair so that the darkness stop progressing, and in order to wash their conscience and be able to resume their journey.
Similarly with regard to the (alleged) assassination of Babuji.
So I hope that all those who know something will find the resources to go into the trenches and engage in the battle for truth.
They should do it at least to the memory of Babuji, if not for future generations, this is called duty and sacrifice.
Cricri
This is a comment left on Elodie's blog (in French) in France by Christian, an ex-abhyasi of 18 years and a research psychologist (linguistics).
Hello Élodie,
It's good that you re-publish an article on this subject.
One must remind all one's readers that there are more visible manifestations than the subtleties (psychological mechanisms and psychosocial), which we have analyzed and unveiled on our blogs over the past months.
While our analyses could be discussed (which does not necessarily mean that they are debatable), these events are completely indisputable! That is the reality of the facts.
We must launch a challenge to all abhyasis Chari to give a justification for such extreme as well as a-spiritual acts-if such a justification is possible.
How do these people do they do to maintain their coherence other than by closing their eyes?
How can they adhere to the teachings put forward by Chari when the actions Chari has his henchmen carry out are these actions are also openly criminal, and as openly against this teachings he claims to give?
It's certainly easier to discredit our criticism with the back of his hand.
Also, let us forget the personal history of the dissidents such as those who speak out on the blogs, to consider the psychological and spiritual implications of such violence.
What do these actions mean for Chari's followers?
Do they realize by this account, in what they are trapped?
They must think about it, and once their ideas become clearer, confront their master.
Are they afraid of getting the door slammed in their face?
Do they believe that they will be damned for eternity, or that their souls will be condemned to be reborn endlessly because the Master has not helped him(her), solely because they have dared to doubt him or criticize his actions?
Do they accept this implicit blackmail, this terrorizing?
Do they have so little faith?
The most fanatic will say that this is not Chari but his followers who have taken the liberty to do this, believing to thus please their beloved master ...
These people were thus sincere, and their actions come from a good intention ...
But: Is Chari the true master in charge of directing the team, or is it his entourage who decides and directs the mission?
Does Chari not have, according to the rules and regulations of his sect, all the powers in his hands?
In that case, why did he not exert a veto against any violent action on the ashram of Shahjahanpur?
And even if the action would have taken place in his back, it is unlikely that he is not aware of it today, now that the ashram of Shahjahanpur belongs to the SRCMtm.
If he is aware of it, why has he not returned the property with an apology and compensate the victims?
Because it satisfies him, as it finally places this ashram in the hands of the SRCMtm?
Another hypothesis: He has not done so because he is the sponsor of this armed robbery.
He would then be the greedy and violent fanatic who was seizing the ultimate symbol of power that that had eluded him, to claim faultless legitimacy in the eyes of the ignorant world.
Feeling his ends approaching and seeing that a negotiated settlement would not lead to a victory in his lifetime, he would have preferred to forget all the basic spiritual tenets he had received from his master and that he pretend to teach.
His pyramidal project, his work, "his mission", would have been more important.
The end justifies the means: How is it different from the basic rules that run the world?
Nothing new to the SRCMtm, the bottom line is always the same.
This ashram of Shahjahanpur was the supreme test for Chari, established for his sole purpose by his master (Babuji) to titillate his greed and his fanaticism.
Had he succeeded, it would lead him to eternity.
A supreme test of detachment: Even this one, he failed.
But no problem, he continues to preach the necessity of detachment to his followers, who décérébrés (without brain, lobotomized, brainwashed, zombie) by the spiritual and mental control under which they have fallen, see no contradiction anywhere.
Thus the history of the ashram of Shahjahanpur reveals that the predators of the SRCMtm are not just lions, wolves or sharks: They are also vultures ...
Although I do not know the people in Babuji's (SRCM Shahjahanpur), and I do not necessarily agree with their beliefs, I sympathize and I hope with all my heart that justice will be done.
I hope that the criminals, if they do not get a sudden enlightenment and repent and correct their mistakes, will be unmasked and punished as they deserve.
I also hope that everyone understands his duty, regardless of the camp in which he finds himself: To shed light on this sordid affair so that the darkness stop progressing, and in order to wash their conscience and be able to resume their journey.
Similarly with regard to the (alleged) assassination of Babuji.
So I hope that all those who know something will find the resources to go into the trenches and engage in the battle for truth.
They should do it at least to the memory of Babuji, if not for future generations, this is called duty and sacrifice.
Cricri
Monday, December 10, 2007
A Chrismas Song of Nature, Harmony and Peace
A Christmas Song of Nature, Harmony and Peace
by 4d-don
Here is a more "Natural" and Spiritual Song for ALL (not just the Christians) at Christmas...Although it speaks of towns in the "near east", (the Traditional place of origin of the Christmas Story, although many of the Christmas "myths" and "rituals" are European) it can be "modified" (like SRCM), and the names of other towns and/or countries be included....such as other revolutionary and/or "war zones"...Tibet, Chile, Columbia, etc...)
THE BELLS OF CHRISTMAS DAY
By 4d-don (SOCAN)
Key of E (Capo 2....Play D) in 4/4 Time-Folk
I hear the bells of Christmas day
Although there are no steeples around
And all of nature bids me stay
To live in harmony and join in the Sound (Shabda?)
CHORUS
Ding, Dong, Ding, Dong
In excelsis ex Uno pluria
Ding, Dong, Ding, Dong
In excelsis e pluribus Unum
I pray the Star lights Bethleem
I pray the city lights don't burn you down
I pray the world one day unites
To live in harmony and join in the Sound
I pray for Peace in New Salem (Jerusalem)
I pray the Gods of War, don’t burn it down
I pray in Peace we all abide
And live in harmony and join in the Sound
I pray for joy throughout the year
I pray the sounds of joy don’t drown out the tears
I Pray in light we all abound
And sing in harmony and join in the Sound.
Translation of the (non-religious) latin phrases:
"In excelsis Ex Uno Pluria"= "In the Highest, from ONE, many"
"In excelsis e pluribus Unum"= "In the Highest, from many, ONE"
Are we doing Masonic (Illuminati) Social engineering??? lol
I hope so! Away with RELIGION!! In with "logical" (greek - "Logos") spirituality!! (not "Faith-based" spirituality which is just Religion in a different "coat").
J. Krishnamurti: "Faith leads invariably to violence!...When you seperate yourself by belief, by nationality, by tradition, it breeds violence."
Religious Agendas:
For those who don't know, the "e pluribus Unum" the "motto" of the USA, was on all the US money from it's creation (in 1776, making it the country with the longest lasting state "constitution" in existence today) until 1956 (the Nixon era) when the words "In God We Trust" was adopted as the motto and placed on some of the US money. The "religious right" was successful in excluding the "non relgious" phrase (e pluribus Unum) from some US Money but the US bills still have the Masonic All seeing Eye atop the pyramid.
The "SEPERATION of STATE and GOD" is also under attack in the USA, as in India (and elsewhere) where the "religious right" is trying to bring back the (fundamentalist) MANU laws that gave India the "caste" system with the "Brahmin" caste and their "sanskrit" language, at the top of the Pyramid...
Tuesday, December 04, 2007
Translation of Hindi Newspaper articles on SRCM (Shahjahanpur) Site
This was taken off the "Freedom from Sahaj Marg-SRCM" site on Orkut.
Scan of original Newspaper article #1 (Freedom From Sahaj Marg-SRCM)
Scan of original Newspaper article #2 (Freedom From Sahaj Marg-SRCM) (not available)
(Translation by Shashwat- comments and corrections appreciated)
Caption under photograph, Dainik Jagran 8th november 2006
Adminisatrative officer's in consultation with ex-minister "Jansevak" who attack the mission property to capture it.
Note:-
Dainik Jagran ( http://www.epaper.jagran.com ) is the most read newspaper in India.
http://www.newswatchonline.in/news-analyses/circulation-audience/1691.html?q=news-analyses/circulation-audience/1691.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newspaper
http://www.hinduonnet.com/thehindu/holnus/001200608291820.htm
Scan of original Newspaper article #1 (Freedom From Sahaj Marg-SRCM)
Scan of original Newspaper article #2 (Freedom From Sahaj Marg-SRCM) (not available)
These Newpaper articles are on the site of SRCM (Shahjahanpur) now under the Presidency of Navneet Kumar, Babuji's grandson and son of Umesh Saxena, the past President of SRCM Shahjahanpur.
(Translation by Shashwat- comments and corrections appreciated)
Caption in Dainik Jagran dated 8th Nov 2006
Caption under photograph, Dainik Jagran 8th november 2006
Adminisatrative officer's in consultation with ex-minister "Jansevak" who attack the mission property to capture it.
Note:-
Dainik Jagran ( http://www.epaper.jagran.com ) is the most read newspaper in India.
http://www.newswatchonline.in/news-anal
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newspaper
http://www.hinduonnet.com/thehindu/holn
Dainik Jagran 8th November 2003.
Ex-Minster and Ex-DIG tried to forcefully capture the RamChandra Mission Ashram.
Situation volatile, administrative and police officer’s camp in the ashram.
In order to capture the position of president vacated after dismissal of Umesh Chandra, international president of Ram Chandra Mission, and with intention to capture the property worth millions of rupee’s , ex- state education minister Amarjeet singh Jansevak, ex director general of police, Uma Shanker Bajpai, along with dozens of associates attempted to capture the mission property, which was successfully foiled by the state administration, in addition to dozens of other people, Uma Shanker Bajpai secretary of RamChandra mission Chennai, Mr. Krishna Tondon, Veenet Chandra, along with their associates, attacked the ashram, in the evening around 7:30 PM. Office superintendent of mission Mr. D. Krishna had previously expressed his concerns regarding bad intentions of above stated people, to the local administration.
Mr D. Krishna had already informed the district magistrate Shahjahanpur, Mr Ashok Kumar Verma, city magistrate Mr. J.K Dixit and supretendent of police Mr shushil Kr. Singh, regarding possibility of violent attack by these people, keeping in view the threat of Chennai group people, administration had already appointed the station officer in the mission. When ex-minister along with his associates were attempting to enter into the ashram, with intentions of capturing it, immediately police and administration officer’s got alarmed, ASP Rambahadur, city magistrate J.K dixit circle officer J.N Bhadauriya, and other administrative officer’s immediately reached the spot and prevented the situation from getting volatile.
Administrative officer’s asked prepetrators, who were trying to enter into the mission property with intention to capture it, regarding documentary proof’s that they are the owner’s of that property. Between, when ex minister tried to enter inside the ashram, for negotiation, the private security guard in the premises warned the attackers that they will start firing if anyone attempts to enter inside the ashram premises. Sensing the volatile situation, the administrative officer’s on the spot prevented ex-IPS officer and ex-minister and their associates from entering into the mission and requested them to produce documentary proof for the ownership of the property next morning.
Office in-charge D. Krishna said that death of president Umesh Chandra Saxsena, is part of the conspiracy hatched by these people only.
D. Krishna further said that news of death of Umesh Chandra saxsena reached their family member’s later and these people knew before hand that Umesh Chandra has expired, he stated that, Krishna tondon had called me and informed me that Umesh Chandra has expired, whereas I was unaware of it. A day before youngest son of Umesh got engaged in Barrali, and I was present there, next day I returned to Shahjahanpur and Umesh Chandra left for Noida, where he felt a bit uneasy, and hence went to hospital, and died there.
D. Krishna has further said, that Babuji’s death is also part of conspiracy hatched by Chennai group people only, as he also died of poisoning, he suspected that even Umesh Chandra death is also due to poisoning only.
Situation volatile, administrative and police officer’s camp in the ashram.
In order to capture the position of president vacated after dismissal of Umesh Chandra, international president of Ram Chandra Mission, and with intention to capture the property worth millions of rupee’s , ex- state education minister Amarjeet singh Jansevak, ex director general of police, Uma Shanker Bajpai, along with dozens of associates attempted to capture the mission property, which was successfully foiled by the state administration, in addition to dozens of other people, Uma Shanker Bajpai secretary of RamChandra mission Chennai, Mr. Krishna Tondon, Veenet Chandra, along with their associates, attacked the ashram, in the evening around 7:30 PM. Office superintendent of mission Mr. D. Krishna had previously expressed his concerns regarding bad intentions of above stated people, to the local administration.
Mr D. Krishna had already informed the district magistrate Shahjahanpur, Mr Ashok Kumar Verma, city magistrate Mr. J.K Dixit and supretendent of police Mr shushil Kr. Singh, regarding possibility of violent attack by these people, keeping in view the threat of Chennai group people, administration had already appointed the station officer in the mission. When ex-minister along with his associates were attempting to enter into the ashram, with intentions of capturing it, immediately police and administration officer’s got alarmed, ASP Rambahadur, city magistrate J.K dixit circle officer J.N Bhadauriya, and other administrative officer’s immediately reached the spot and prevented the situation from getting volatile.
Administrative officer’s asked prepetrators, who were trying to enter into the mission property with intention to capture it, regarding documentary proof’s that they are the owner’s of that property. Between, when ex minister tried to enter inside the ashram, for negotiation, the private security guard in the premises warned the attackers that they will start firing if anyone attempts to enter inside the ashram premises. Sensing the volatile situation, the administrative officer’s on the spot prevented ex-IPS officer and ex-minister and their associates from entering into the mission and requested them to produce documentary proof for the ownership of the property next morning.
Office in-charge D. Krishna said that death of president Umesh Chandra Saxsena, is part of the conspiracy hatched by these people only.
D. Krishna further said that news of death of Umesh Chandra saxsena reached their family member’s later and these people knew before hand that Umesh Chandra has expired, he stated that, Krishna tondon had called me and informed me that Umesh Chandra has expired, whereas I was unaware of it. A day before youngest son of Umesh got engaged in Barrali, and I was present there, next day I returned to Shahjahanpur and Umesh Chandra left for Noida, where he felt a bit uneasy, and hence went to hospital, and died there.
D. Krishna has further said, that Babuji’s death is also part of conspiracy hatched by Chennai group people only, as he also died of poisoning, he suspected that even Umesh Chandra death is also due to poisoning only.
Hindustan, 3rd April 2006
Ram Chandra Mission captured, after Violence
Women amongst 3 other’s injured
Shahjahanpur, Under police station Ram Chandra Mission, on Sunday daughter-in-law of late shree Ramchandra ji, her brother and her son, were mercilessly beaten up by Anti-Ramchandra, P. Rajagopalachari group people. The perpetrator’s destroyed property worth missions of rupees and captured the immoveable property, they dragged the people inside the mission and threw them outside the ashram forcefully. Victims when approached police for launching the FIR, they were asked to leave from there also, and FIR was not registered, Amita saxsena, daughter-in-law of RamChandra ji informed the media that on Sunday afternoon, ex-IPS Uma shanker bajpai, self proclaimed secretary of Parthsarthi group, ex-justice R.R.K Trivedi, Prabhat Kumar Sinha, in association with lot more people attacked the mission and destroyed property worth million of rupee’s. When she tried to stop the predator’s, they attacked her, her brother and her son, and beat them to near death, after which they dragged her, her brother and her son, out of mission and threw them. In addition to this they also captured the vehicles and licensed revolver of her son puneet saxsena. When she approached police for help, police refused to help them owing to pressure from influential people from P. Rajagopalachari group.
It should also be mentioned that same people tried to capture the same property back in the year 2003 also, when administration foiled their attempt.
Later on ex-IPS UmaShanker Bajpai, informed the media, that HE is now the new secretary of the mission and family those who were running the mission till yesterday have nothing to do with the mission any more.
Women amongst 3 other’s injured
Shahjahanpur, Under police station Ram Chandra Mission, on Sunday daughter-in-law of late shree Ramchandra ji, her brother and her son, were mercilessly beaten up by Anti-Ramchandra, P. Rajagopalachari group people. The perpetrator’s destroyed property worth missions of rupees and captured the immoveable property, they dragged the people inside the mission and threw them outside the ashram forcefully. Victims when approached police for launching the FIR, they were asked to leave from there also, and FIR was not registered, Amita saxsena, daughter-in-law of RamChandra ji informed the media that on Sunday afternoon, ex-IPS Uma shanker bajpai, self proclaimed secretary of Parthsarthi group, ex-justice R.R.K Trivedi, Prabhat Kumar Sinha, in association with lot more people attacked the mission and destroyed property worth million of rupee’s. When she tried to stop the predator’s, they attacked her, her brother and her son, and beat them to near death, after which they dragged her, her brother and her son, out of mission and threw them. In addition to this they also captured the vehicles and licensed revolver of her son puneet saxsena. When she approached police for help, police refused to help them owing to pressure from influential people from P. Rajagopalachari group.
It should also be mentioned that same people tried to capture the same property back in the year 2003 also, when administration foiled their attempt.
Later on ex-IPS UmaShanker Bajpai, informed the media, that HE is now the new secretary of the mission and family those who were running the mission till yesterday have nothing to do with the mission any more.
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