Hostile take-over of the SRCM

How a small meditation group is "taken over"
A spiritual drama:

This is one account by Mr A who confirms Michael's and other accounts of the political intrigues that have gone on at the SRCM since it's creation by Babuji.
For another perspective and more "drama and intrigue", read Dr. Varadachari's story on KC Narayana's (Dr. Varadachari's son) ISRC site:

http://www.sriramchandra.org/Master/RevDrKCVStory.htm

For a different perspective than the SRCM's official version of Lalaji's Sufi background, and on the Sufi Lineage of Sahaj Marg, see "Sufi Saints And Sufism" by RK Gupta at:

http://sufism.weebly.com/sufism-in-india.html (see Sufism in India and Naqsh MuMRa Stream of Sufis)

Chari mentions in his autobigraphy how his dad had become a problem as he was travelling around Europe claiming to be a "Master" even though he had only been in the Mission for a few weeks. He wanted Babuji to "deal with it" but Babuji was not a "confrontational" person so he just let it happen.

This account is in the comments on Michael blog:

http://innercircleofsrcm.blogspot.com/

Michael, Christian

I appreciate your efforts and time you have put to share your experiences.

At age 17 (1987) I had strong desire to understand the meaning and purpose of life. Studied Vivekananda, and started meditating on my own. I came across 'Reality at Dawn'. I was impressed and decided to meet Babuji. (I am an indian living in India). I met a local preceptor Mr.M. After couple of meetings he said "I know what you are looking for, I request you to join our mission. Give me six months of time. Do what I say for six month. At the end we will sit on same platform. If you feel I have wasted your time, your free to give me any abuses you like".

I was touched by the humility and openness. I told him, i would not question for one year.

Later during sittting and talks i realized, Babuji had passed in 1983. I went to Shahjanpur for 'Lalaji's Birthday celebration', the same year. I was already feeling the difference in my condition/experience the grace at Babuji's Samadhi and his house. As i got involved i learnt that there is some issue going on with Babuji's Sucessor. Mr.M told me that Babuji left none. We have a working president Dr.S.P.Srivastava.

I used to meet my preceptor almost three times a week. During talk, i understood that Chari is claiming the sucessorship and came to know about all the legal issues in India too. He mentioned to me that, while Babuji's body was still burning at Shahjanpur, Chari had the paper circulated that he is nominated as the president of mission. Chari was general secretary of the mission till 1980(?), he was removed from all postions after that. Chari was the only person appointed by Babuji to make new preceptors. My preceptor was made a preceptor by Chari!.

But he refused to accept chari as the representative. The personality he described to me about chari and what i read from your blogs are identical!

In fact, Chari send out a letter to my preceptor, that his preceptorship is cancelled, and his powers are revoked. He showed that letter to me when i went for a sitting to his home. Asked me to sit for a sitting and tell him how true it is. I felt no difference in the sitting, it was still the same grace i have been receiving.

Unfortunatly, my preceptor left us in 1993. Babuji that i know, SahajMarg i know, the grace i feel is all due to his efforts. In my very close association with him for six plus years, I have never, not even once, seen him lose his cool or a change in the tone or pitch of his voice. I was like his son, so there nothing hidden from me or as a matter of fact anyone. There was no 'inner circle'.

I had developed good relation with preceptors of neighboring cities too by that time. And i saw very similar personalities. None of them accepted Chari as the successor though.

Since they wanted to run the Mission, they met with the president S.P.Srivastava and decided on ways to make new preceptor and made new one for my city. I took regular sitting from him and felt similar grace too.

I have also heard from my preceptor that Andre Porey was a strong contender for the successorship. Babuji had more liking for him, but Lalaji disapproved him, since Lalaji felt that Andrey Pore or people around him are not introvert and would utilize the power for material purpose. I recollect this as i read your post on people dressed in black showing up for meditation.

As far as i know, my preceptor told me that till the end Babuji was always saying that i did not find one to nominate.

The center was working fine, but we got a letter now from Umeshchandra saxena that he is the sucessor representative. We all got copies of the letter that Babuji Maharaj wrote to him on mission letter head with Babuji's Signature.

I have seen the letter that Umeshchandra produced and the one that chari has produced. I still have copies of both. I rejected the copy chari produced simply by reading its content. Babuji, as i have known him from my preceptor, does nothing without mentioning his guru Lalaji Maharaj. A successor nomination letter without the name of Lalaji Maharaj is 'impossible'.

The letter that umeshchandra produced seemed more in line with Babuji's style. "By the grace of God and Lalaji Maharaj..."

I must mention here, my preceptor told me that when Babuji used to travel west, he used to leave few blank signed papers on mission letterhead for administrative reasons. Since he worked in court, he was very perticular and always checked back on the papers when he came back. In one of his last trips, he saw three blank signed letters were missing. He registered a complain at local police station for records.

Since one of the senior preceptor (he was one of the few, who had soul connection with Babuji-initiation) in neighbouring city, accepted that letter, we all accepted it.

I took sitting from umeshchandra when he came to my city. The sitting reminded me of the condition i felt, at Babuji's Samadhi and Babuji's house. Tremendous grace. But i was very perplexed with the petty talk and other behaviour of Umeshchandra. I question this to the Senior preceptor-whom we were relying on.

He agreed with my observation, asked me to watch and not react. I kept did not question much.

Umeshchandra has accused Chari of 'poisioning' Babuji Maharaj in court papers! He said that something was done to Babuji in his trip to west. I recollect this when i read michael's post of Babuji falling down.

Umeshchandra, later asked me to come and stay at his house near Delhi. I went there for four days, and he made me a preceptor. He seemed sincere in trying to run the mission as Babuji intended. I saw all the menuscripts that Babuji wrote while he as getting dictations from Lalaji Maharaj, Lord Krishna, Swami Vivekanada, Lord Jesus Christ, Lord Buddha etc. (there is a autobiography published from it, not many people has that copy)

Later I came to US on work (1996). Having made preceptor and US secretary of the Mission, i tried to see if i can find some good abhyasis. I tried to contact old abhyasis's from a list i got from Umeshchandra. I even attended a sitting conducted by a local preceptor made by Chari. I did not divulge my identity- said i am an abhyasi from India. I noticed that there were no pictures of Babuji Maharaj or Lalaji Maharaj in the center. There was a picture of Chari. I did not find any grace in that sunday group sitting.(my sensitivity is very good to surrounding, i can catch good and bad vibrations, thoughts etc.)

After the sitting a book was being read written by Chari. I never went there again or talked with the preceptor.I created a website 'sahajmarg.org'. Put some basics of Babuji's teaching and the issue of sucessor representative. I scanned the court papers, Chari had presented in the court as successor representative and the one Umeshchandra presented.

This started a legal battle here in US. They(Chari's zonal secretary) contacted the domain registrar and disputed the domain. The issue went to arbitration. I worked with Umeshchandra, and presented the response to the arbitration. The decision came in our favour that we can keep the domain name. I was delighted, and so were people in india, this was probably the first time, we had won something.

This did not last long, as Chari, approched the federal court, virginia to dispute the outcome. I too hired an attorney to fight the case. My financial power and other means were extremly limited. There is nobody here that can support me in this issue. It was a drag on me personally and finacially.

When, Chari(zonal seceratary) realized, i am fighting it out, they hired one of the biggest law firm in US to fight the case (100K + would be their fees)

In 1999, I went to india to attend Babuji's centenary celebration in Shahjahanpur. I saw obvious change in Umeshchandra at that time. He did not have any Job or financial backing. He had started depending on the Mission to support himself. I did not have any problem with it, since he was doing a full time job as the president. But i saw, that the attitude was to get more money in the mission, so that he and his family can use more- support a lifestyle.

I saw politicians invited at the celebrations on the stage. They are bad everywhere, but in india its - i don't have words here.

I saw i was being used for some publicity. There were fears for Umeshchandra's life due this dispute and he was carrying a revolver in his pocket at shahjahanpur ashram.

I was sad. I realized Umeshchandra is not the representative. I discussed with the senior preceptor on whose word we had accepted him as president. He used to manage all the accounts for the ashram. He acknowledged, grave money mismangement in the mission.

I came back to US, very sad. I still had to deal with the court case, since Chari's attorney refused to accept Shri RamChandra Mission, Shahjanpur, India as an identity and was personally dragging me in the case for violating his trademarks.

My attorney, advised me to backoff, He told me he does not have means to fight the biggest law firm in US, and even if we won, they can always challenge the decision and go to supreme court and drag this for a long time. I did not have the money, or power and now no faith in Umeshchandra.

I signed the papers that i have nothing to do with the SRCM, nor will my kids! have anything to do with it.

My heart cried...still does.

Mr. A...
12:56 PM

Anonymous said... (Mr. A)

Let me add one more...There is a CD/cassette available of Babuji's talks with Danish abhyasis (1974?) The western abhyasis are impressed with Chari and inquirying about Kasturi and Chari to Babuji. A lady asks Babuji, "is Chari a saint?", Babuji gives some vague answer, but she repeats the questions. Babuji answers "Chari is Bachelors of Science"!!!

These are Masters own words, recorded, published even by Chari's organization.

1:05 PM

Michael said...

Dear Brother,

Thank you so much for taking the time to write this. Your story is astonishingly similar to mine! Having met one of Lalaji's last living disciples, I am convinced that there was no desire on Lalaji's behalf to start an organization, or have successors.

I sincerely believe this whole SRCM was Babuji's creation, not Lalaji's, and it has created a life of its own that has nothing to do with the spiritual advancement of humanity.

To this day I don't understand the need for yet another spritual organization that will untimately degrade to another organized religion (if it hasn't already).

I have to say, when I met Umesh back in 1980, he did not seem very active spiritually.

Given my training as a preceptor, I know quite well how easy it is to present a facade of holiness around oneself. Umesh and Chari have done this. This facade conceals real objectives, desires and intentions.

Privately, Chari complained constantly about his disciples, their whining and foolishness. I saw people he kept close to him keeping people away from Chari when he got into that kind of mood, Yet publically, he presented a Masterly Facade.

When it all comes down to it, I believe that SRCM as an organization (either the Shajahanpur or Mumbai versions of it), does little to advance how its disciples interact in this life, and instead have them fixated on serving an organization and Master so that they can advance in the Brighter World.

This now includes aggressive legal action against opposing groups and detractors. Rumor has it, that there have been "inner circle" discussions about our blogs and a US attorney has been asked to look into how to shut us down. Of course, in the US free speech laws prohibit the expression of personal opinions. However, if this is indeed true, it is yet another sad fact of just how self centered and defensive this organization has become!

I share your sadness. Feel free to keep in touch with us.

Michael
1:19 PM


Anonymous (Mr. A) said...

Michael,

The organization SRCM was created with Lalaji's approval and wishes. Babuji had lost his ego-individuality. The Autobiography i mention which contains numerous day to day events in intercummunication form says so. Infact the dictations give details that there was a big issue of successor representative after Lalaji passed away. It is in 1944, Lalaji's birthday celebration Babuji was declared as his sucessor by Ishwar Sahai (?). Lalaji, Lord Krishna, Swami vivekananda and many more had left the brighter world and were present to take care of Babuji. Lalaji Maharaj, Swami Vivekanada and Lord Krishna were his constant companions. This was printed in India around 1989. 3000 copies. From your response i am assuming you have not read it. I have read those intercommunication papers written by babuji originally in Urdu, all dictations from swami Vivekananda were in english. These were translated by Dr.S.P.Srivatava. That book is my 'Gita'. There is so much information in there, i wish more people could read it.

3:15 PM

Michael said...

My Dear Friend,

Nothing of what you write can be confirmed. All comes from Babuji's dreams and creations in his mind. Even Ishwar Sahai's announcement is something only Babuji can attest to. Meanwhile there were dozens of Lalaji's disciples who present different facts. Now Chari allegedly claims to have "dreams" or have Babuji "channeled" by a third party and this information. Conveinient for him as these facts are totally un-proveable, just as your Autobiography myths are.

My friend, what I am saying is that Missions and Successors, do not matter. This may seem a bold statement to you but I believe it boils down to how the system trains its adherents to treat their fellow man/woman in this world in order to evolve and prepare for the next. If selfishness remains, then all the detachment in the world won't save you!

Personally, I was attracted to Babuji's personality, not his credentials and always bristled when these myths were propogated as they are extremely manipulative. They represent clear signs of a spiritual organization degrading to a religion. Spirituality is about experiencing God. Religions are about believing in God. Now what have you written here that is about Spirituality?

Please, keep the focus on facts and experiences when writing here, not mythology and legend determining who's in charge. We're interested in YOUR EXPERIENCES not the myths propogated to benefit a few in charge of a large organization.Sorry for being so blunt, but you must be careful presenting un-verifiable information here as truth. Not only does it serve no purpose, but it belittles YOUR experience, which, in spirituality IS important. The facts you present are not important in any spiritual sense and only serve to sway the masses to believe in a religious hierarchy without experiencing anything.

So, if you have experiences of your own that you'd like to share, then share them here, but understand that unless you personally witnessed Vivekananda and Krishna leaving the Brighter world to be in Babuji's presence, or if you've visited the Brighter World and confirmed these facts with these individuals, I suggest that you reserve posting these myths elsewhere.

Regardless, I hope you find happiness and benefit from the path you are on.

Michael
7:15 AM

Anonymous (Mr. A) said...

Michael,

I agree w.r.t the autobiography, nothing can be confirmed. Babuji said it, wrote it in his dairy and now few have it as book.

Anybody can claim it. There are few things one can look for 'Motive'

-Either the person claiming such dictations was mentally unstable
-Had desire for fame, money, material values
- or pass the 'truth' to the masses.

There could be more analysis on the isssue of motive, but my friend, i don't blame you the world is filled many pseudo guru's. Having never seen the 'good' side of the system, one would think in similar direction. I guess even i might have taken similar position.

I agree with you, the mission, sucessor does not matter. What matters to me is, my personal transformation. Am I still the same person, getting affected by every circumstances or have i 'naturally' moved to a more divine state.

There is a reason, many highly developed spiritual soul do not come out in public. The original emphasis, as i have learnt for 'sahaj marg' was propogation thru word of mouth. An abhyasi would introduce another person, if he/she sees that the there is a internal craving in the person.

I have seen that there was emphasis on 'quality' of abhyasi and never 'quantity'. We never wanted quantity. This is not for everyone to digest.

My preceptor used to tell me, this is power, and if tendencies are not understood and changed, a small thief would become very big thief. If utilized properly, the thief can become a saint.

I take trouble to write this, since it hurts when the finger is pointed to Babuji Maharaj. Please don't be hasty, leave the benefit of doubt. The system, organization did perform as ideally it should, i can attest to it. But when the quantity increased due to some organizer's enthusism, it went down.

1:37 PM

Michael said...

Dear Anonymous

Apparently you have not read the blog and seem to think I did not know Babuji, but I did. I joined SRCM in 1979 and travelled to Shahjahanpur multiple times.

I am not sure whether Babuji wrote this "Auto"biography or if it was created by those around him. I was impressed with Babuji, but then again, I was also impressed with Chari. I also met some other very impressive Gurus, one was also associated with Lalaji.

I am by no means ignorant of the SRCM, or the practice of Sahaj Marg as I was a Preceptor and practiced it for over 10 years. I stand by what I say.

It is well documented that Babuji had very limited contact with Lalaji. He determined that he should announce his successorship from a dream he had after Lalaji passed away. By this time many of Lalaji's disciples and disciples of Lalaji's brother had established themselves as spiritual teachers and saw little need to follow Babuji. (Yes even Babuji mentions Lalaji's brother as a spiritual twin).

I am not judging Babuji, but am simply stating the facts. I do not believe even mentioning the dreams and visions that Babuji may or may not have had of Vivenkenanda, Krishna, Lalaji or other dead people is even remotely relevant to the spiritual experience one has in the presence of someone like Babuji.

Sadly, Anonymous, whomever he is, has decided Babuji's autobiography, which I have read, is a new religious document that everyone should read. This defeats the purpose of a spiritual practice that is supposed to develop one's own discrimination.

In today's SRCM discrimination is DEAD. It is all about blind obedience. Lions are turned into sheep while the wolves in the inner circle fight over morsels of meat.

It is a sad state of affairs, yet still some manage to extract some nectar from this rotting fruit.

Babuji was an impressive person, but he was human. He was able to convey something spiritual to others, but his legacy is rotting away as his hand picked inner circle fight over what remains of it.

I will be bold here and say that I believe he indeed made a mistake in creating SRCM and claiming exclusivity in the Sufi/Vedic heritage he gleened from his association with Lalaji. Other disciples of Lalaji chose claim any exclusive lineage. His doing so has done nothing but to muddy an otherwise simple spiritual path and establish a new religion based on myth and blind faith in dreams and visions and possibly illusions.

Michael
6:55 PM

Alexis said...

Mr. Anonymous,

I just have discovered your comment (thanks to Don). It is terribly interesting. But there are things which I don't understand. Perhaps, you could explain me…

- You said Dr SP Srivastava was the 'working president' of the Mission, and yourself were the secretary when you went to the USA. Is it the SRCM of Chari or another one ? Is there two Missions : Umeshchandra's Mission and Chari's Mission ? Who is Srivastava ?

- You said that in your area of origin, people do not like Chari. What area is it? Uttar Pradesh ?

- You said Lalaji didn't like André Porey. How could they have known each other ?

Thanks for explanations

3:50 AM

Anonymous said...


Thanks to all who have expressed interest in the posting.

-When Babuji left and chari came out with the sucessor letter, there were problems. There were factions.

- A working group was formed and S.P.Srivastava was choosen as the president. This is the same group -original SRCM shahjanpur HQ center. This was not immediate, it took a while (few years). The ashram was not getting properly maintained after Babuji.

Later this-Presidentship was passed on to Umeshchandra. Since Umeshchandra came out with a letter showing(1994), he is the appointed representative by Babuji.

Just to clarify, I have never had any association with SRCM-Chari. I have never met chari. My association has always been with SRCM, Shahjahanpur, India. BTW, alexis, there are many factions of SRCM, Chari's is one of them and it has large number.

Regarding Andrey Porey, What i wrote i got it from my preceptor. This was in 1990. How does Lalaji know Andrey? Well we are going to cross the physical boundry here to answer that.

Lalaji was almost a constant companion of Babuji Maharaj, it is evident from Babuji's dairy. From the kind of questions, doubts, i get here, I almost certain, nobody in this group has read it. I have not read the book 'Whispers of Truth ?" from Chari, so i cannot say whether its the same as what i am referring.

Chari has no access to Babuji Maharaj's diary. It was Lalaji's wish as well as Babuji's wish to have it printed after Babuji Maharaj leaves the physical body. Umeshchandra and now his son Navneet has it. Babuji used to have daily communication with departed souls. Originally written in urdu and english. This work was translated by Dr.S.P.Srivastava. This is offcourse a very controversial aspect. We all need proof. A material proof, of a non-material 'thing'!

I have been discouraged by Michael, not to put stuff that cannot be proved or can be imaginary. The Irony is, What is false is getting proved in the courts! and survives in masses! (in this physical world!)

Friends, please remember Chari was not the only person close to Babuji Maharaj, I have known many senior perceptors who were very close to Babuji Maharaj.

It should not matter which region i am from in India. I did visit Shahjahanpur every year from 1987 onwards with 1996.

I have no objection to providing the letter chari or Umeshchandra is using to claim successorship, this were submitted to Supreme court of India towards the court dispute.

Just a word of caution to the enthusiastic folks here. I have been burnt by this and i personally would not like others to take that road.

My 'only' purpose to write all this is to share and help and never to 'bitch'. I can never do that for any thing that involves 'Babuji's' name.

call me 'A'
2:57 PM

Michael said...

A,

Thanks for providing more information. As for your disappointment in me for not accepting the un-proven myths, It is not about tangible vs untangilbe or Supreme Court vs Babuji's visions, it is the deflection of focus on one's own spiritual experiences and the creation of Myth that is faith based rather than experiential that I have an issue with.

These Myths tend to cause the Masses to "follow" a Master rather than pursue their own spiritual practice.

Michael
4:00 PM

Christian said...

1) So, how do we proceed with these letters if you are ok to display them?

2) I have asked on this blog to RK Pilani how to get the book you are talking about but had no answer. Is there a way to buy it somewhere?

3) I surely do not want to go in the direction of an open conflict and that's why I try to discourage it by showing that the cure could be worse. Our situation is not to claim being the SRCMtm as was yours or that of others who had this kind of problem.

6:08 PM

4d-Don said...

Hi A...

Thank you for the candid information.What a mess, what a mess, what a mess!(an old Acadianism) or like Christian would say: Ah! ah! ah!....You are very compassionate to share this with us and I appreciate it, as I am sure the others.

The letters or any physical proof you have would be of immense support and comfort to us who have only had our "suspicions" and "feelings" of how things were at SRCM tm and are only getting it "confirmed" by yourself, Michael, Christian, Alain, Narayana, and others who have researched it for a long time like Alexis and the Infosect in France.

This sort of exchange (information) could only happen in this day and age, with the Internet, and maybe this time, they (the power hungry) will not get away with it.It is my hope and my consolation to make up for my "broken family" as I'm sure is the same with Vincent (Belgium) and She Wolf (Switzerland), Elodie, Johan, and others in Europe.

Don...
10:03 PM

Alexis said...

If I well understood, Babuji died in 1983, Chari presents its successor letter which is refused and a working group is created and chaired by Dr SP Srivastava (1983-94). Chari didn't be pleased and he constituted its own movement in parallel.

In 1994, Umeshchandra shows a letter which is recognized, SP Srivastava dissolves the group and Umeshchandra becomes official president of the Mission. You (Mr A.) are named secretary of the Mission in the United States in 1996 and you create a website...

It means there are 2 Missions, one official chaired by SP Srivastava first (1983-94) and after by Umeshchandra (1994-today), the other one unofficial chaired by Chari since 1983.

Am I mistaken ?

6:50 AM

Alexis said...

Mr A.,

Do you know why Umeshchandra waited 1994 to show its letter ?
KC Narayana, son of Dr KC Varadachari, said he saw this letter in 83 or before. He said also Chari's letter was authentic, Umeshchandra's letter wasn't...
Do you know Narayana ? What is your impression ?

And about Dr Varadachari ?

7:09 AM


Anonymous said...
Alexis,

Your summary/understanding of the mission situation is correct. Why did Umeshchandra waited for so long? I did not get a clear answer. I did ask it.

There many division or preceptors practising by themselves, like Ragvendra
rao, KC Narayana, Kasturiji and many more.

I have never met Dr.Vardhachari, But i know my preceptor used to speak very high of him. From some of the letters that are published online between him and Babuji, he was the chosen sucessor by Babuji, but he did not live long here.

I do not have much knowledge about KC Narayana. He seems to keep the door not wide open, maybe from bad experiences from abyasis following different group.

Here is my thought - purely personal, Most of the preceptors in India are doing good service and are keen on following the principles of Babuji maharaj, except the well known SRCM-Chari. There may be some good folks in there too.

Michael, i understand where you are comming from, but the onus of blindly following the Master and not the principles lies on the disciple.

I did accept the letter Umeshchandra produced, i did experience the 'grace' from him. But when the worldly actions were not based on 'principles' i moved on.

As the indian system, the guru is regarded as 'living god'. There is no other form of God you can experience physically. You may hit me for this, but i do accept that. But please remember Babuji has mentioned that it is better to remain without a Guru, instead of choosing a wrong one. The tests for such a guru are very high. I have and would test a guru to almost every doubt that comes across in my mind. Real faith develops following that, otherwise its all sheeps following.

Christian, The book i am refering, i have serious doubts if its available now.

My 2 cents to all the abhyasis, The method is correct, the principles are correct, pray directly to Babuji maharaj and he will help you. Its from my experience.

I am not sure how i can upload the documents here.

A
3:35 PM


Michael said...
All,

There are not 2 but at least 3 SRCM groups now that KC Narayana has started ISRC.

The point that I would emphasize is that all these senior members, who claim all to have achieved the "Central Region" are fighting over an organization and successorship to it. This entire dynamic makes a mockery of spiritual attainment - and personally makes me not give a hoot about their spiritual achievments. They are behaving like the worst of human beings here on Earth and making a mess of things - Perhaps the brighter world is just a safe place to keep these dangerous souls safely away from humanity after death?

I will state again, and I know you all will not like this, but Babuji created this mess! He decided to create the Mission, claim himself sole successor of Lalaji and claim that only through Him and His Mission could one practically attain the Central Region. He attracted lots of impressive people into his fold and develped a strong power base with their combined energy.

I'm not questioning Babuji's sincerity or whether he had the dreams and visions that he wrote about, I am simply saying that he has created an organization and a culture that fostered power mongering and narcisissim.

Meanwhile there is a legacy that goes beyond SRCM - Lots of groups following Lalaji and his Brother. The Golden Sufi folks, associated with Irina Tweedie (Author of "Daughter of Fire") come from Lalaji's Brother's lineage. I believe they have preserved more of the basic principles that existed in Lalaji's days - no sole successor, etc...

So Babuji chose to deviate from the direction that Lalaji, his brother and their other disciples took of not having any real organization, nor any sole successorship to fight over.

I stand by my claim that the SRCM and the whole concept of Successors is done to control the masses. Spiritually focused individuals will find the right person or group to be associated with. Legal papers, organizations, and castles to meditate in, are not necessary - that is unless one desires to build a powerbase and a mass of sheep-like disciples to control. Who benefits from that?

Sorry to dissappoint those who still hold onto Babuji's legacy, but the truth is, his legacy is rotting away with every splinter group and "Central Region" disciple who claims to be pure path to the Brighter World.

Honestly, what is lost in all this is the whole concept of human development. There seems to be little concern for acting selflessly, and serving humanity without expectetion of getting something in return. It's all about "THE MISSION"...

What about HUMANITY? What about charity and forgiveness? What about honoring one's family and serving one's community?

How did all these principles get lost? Because everyone is so fixated on serving the Mission so that they can attain the Central Region so that they can become the next Master or at least become part of is Inner Circle!

Sad, very sad.
6:45 AM

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If you Google search “Sahaj Marg blog” you will find at pages 4 to 20, these pages from Yahoo! Answers in UK, Ireland, India, Singapore, and Canada. It seems that these “evangelists” are targeting children again with this “proselytizing” tool. How far from the “Sahaj Marg” of lalaji and Babuji and Raja Yoga, has the “all new SRCM” drifted in their need for “disciples” or “serfs” so as to grow the Mission. Lalaji and Babuji’s spirituality was for adults only!!!

We now have to protect our kids from these adults using the Children’s games to “evangelize” to the kids…Oh yes, you can earn points! To get to the Brighter World no doubt!! They will need some “students” for their “OMEGA” School. Is this their “recruiting drive”??

http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/question/indexqid=20061014034500AAjB6GJ
http://answers.yahoo.com/my/profileshow=036f58adae89ecc403264e7711a714ffaa http://answers.yahoo.com/question/indexqid=20060919044255AAEDCW9
http://in.answers.yahoo.com/question/indexqid=20060911024857AAk8bcM
http://au.answers.yahoo.com/question/indexqid=20061004231215AAwzEjZ
http://ca.answers.yahoo.com/question/indexqid=20061004213450AAvCO9T
http://ca.answers.yahoo.com/question/indexqid=20061005031720AANIyza
http://sg.answers.yahoo.com/question/indexqid=20061011060807AAQzJ0T
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http://in.answers.yahoo.com/question/indexqid=20060920020825AAXHQkf
http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/question/indexqid=20061011034339AANPbGS

Heads up Parents….They may then offer “free tuition” for a select few “as Judas Goats”, so as to pressure the other parents to follow suit, just like the Catholics did for me, and others like me, with the abusive and now defunct boarding (residential) schools. They paid my way because I was “special”. In other words, a “subservient” and “obedient” target, or a “good kid”.

Well now my eyes are open. Keep your eyes open!!

How the Brainwashing Works

Here is an e-mail sent to abhyasis of Sahaj Marg...

How the Brainwashing in Sahaj Marg Works

The 5 cardinal principles for a true disciple.

• Loyalty to the three M's.

• Dedication to the purpose of the Mission.

* Preserving the teaching & practice without distortion.

• Brotherhood.

• Attitude of sharing.

Loyalty to the 3 M's

What is loyalty?

• Loyalty is an unwavering faith in the Master. -Loyalty does not judge the Master.

• Loyalty is the ability to absorb criticism and keep going on and on forever.

• Loyalty is complete obedience to the Master's will.

• Loyalty is the sister of surrender. Without the Master, there is nothing!

• So, loyalty to the Master is everything!

• Out of this grows loyalty to everything that He is committed to.

• Loyalty to the mission and method is thus an extension of one's loyalty to the Master.

• This loyalty can on1y grow out of a close association with the Master, and out of an appreciation of His life and work.

• This kind of loyalty is not only personalloyalty, but extends beyond that, to everything else.

• It is like the difference between - love him who loves aH, and love aH whom he loves.

• It is possible that someone may be personally loyal to the Master (gurumat).

• It is also possible that someone may be loyal to the mission and the method (manmat).

• It is very rare that someone is loyal to both - the Master, and His creations.

• 0n1y such a person is 'truly loyal' .

Dedication to the purpose of the Mission.

• Dedication to the Master's purpose can only come out of complete loyalty to Him.

• It requires total devotion to the Master and His goals.

• It also helps to have a shared vision of the mission and its goals.

• It requires a commitment to make His vision a reality.

Preserving the Teaching & Practice without distortion.

• There are two ways:

• The first is to implement the Master's plan without question or egoistic involvement.

• One simply acts in the way that the Master wants. One does not question the whys or wherefores.

• This is by far the best way.

• The second way is to question, and then, after applying the mind, accept the Master' s way as the best, and then only act.

• However, this implies judging the Master, and therefore faIls short of the tirst way, at least as far as the loyalty of the person is concemed.

• Master says that it is OK to question when given permission to do so, but only up to a point.

• That point is when the Master decides on a course of action.

• To question beyond this point is disloyalty.

• AIl of us have done this openly or within our hearts at one time or other.

• The only way we can preserve the purity of Master's teaching is if we accept it completely in our hearts, and if our ego is completely at rest.

Quotes You Won't Find In Any Sahaj Marg PR

QUOTES YOU WON'T FIND IN ANY SAHAJ MARG PR

Quotes of concern from Sri Ram Chandra Mission (Sahaj Marg…The Natural Path) literature being disseminated in our communities under the guise of "Spirituality".

Management of Sri Ram Chandra Mission

Parthasarathi Rajagopalachari aka Chariji (Guru)…Plastics Engineer and Retired Mill Manager with TTK Group.
Baskhar Roa…(Chief Preceptor)…Retired General Manager, State Bank of Mysore, India
Santosh Khanjee (International Affairs and Web site)…..Businessman & Developer, Austin, Texas…

Shri Ram Chandra Mission

Purchased 2 Castles in Europe (Augerans, France (Peugeot Castle) and Denmark) and numerous commercial buildings and properties around the world. (1500 centres worldwide, real estate value $1 billion, according to Shri Sexena, President of Babuji Memorial Ashram)

Operates many Web sites including SRCM and SMRTI (Sahaj Marg Research and Training Institute). The Mission operates a private school in Chennai, India: Lalaji Memorial Omega School with a questionable "value based" school curriculum starting with 5 years old kids….The curriculum (mostly the teachings of a form Hinduism), is in 100 schools in India.

Linked and collaborates with International Association of Spiritual Psychiatry, European preceptor (Swiss Psychiatrist) published research on 54 "serfs" (disciples), and is a collaborator on the Sri Ram Chandra Mission Web site.

Schisms within the group in India (see Yogabhyas.org (was called Ramashram) and Institute of Ram Chandra Consciousness and Imperience.org by another group…court cases around the use of names of Web sites and books of Ram Chanrdra of Shahjahanpur, in India and Europe (France)

Many dis-enchanted disciples (see links for blogs) in Europe, targeted by Sahaj Marg in the 1970's.

Listed on 2 French Government Committee reports on "cult" activity.

QUOTES OF CONCERN

From their book "The Efficacy of Sahaj Marg"

The daily prayer…(to the Guru)

O Master! Thou art the real goal of human life; we are yet but slaves of wishes putting bar to our advancement. Thou art the only God and power to bring us up to that stage.

To Whom is the Mission Prayer Addressed and Why

Babuji himself has written that ultimately He (pointing upwards) is the real Master . . . and all the human Masters who come on this world, on this earth, are His representatives. If that is so, then why do we address the prayer, "Oh, Master" and not "Oh, God". Now today I am giving you the answer for that. Because God, it is a living God who is before you in the form of the Master ...this is an embodied flesh-and-blood divinity . . . who can understand our needs; who can understand our temperaments; who can sympathize with us, being human himself; who can accept our failings, perhaps having failed himself in some way . . .

From: Heart of the Lion (Book by Chari)...Page 14

....So I repeat, the Guru is the only friend. In fact, I have said this so often, that in the Sufi philosophy, the Guru is called Friend. "The Friend is coming". Because he is the only fellow who can give his life for you. He is the only fellow, therefore, to whom you must hand over totally, a Power of Attorney....."Do with me as you think I deserve to be done with. Kick me when I have to be kicked. Beat me when I have to be beaten. Curse me when I have to be cursed. But make of me what you think I should be eventually, because only you can do it."

So once more I say this in all humility....if you must have a Master, find a fellow who is capable of, you know, throwing you around, beating you up, cutting you to pieces. Remember Parushurama's father and the stern test that young boy had to make for obedience...."Kill your Mother"...."Yes"...

He pulled out the sword and cut off her head. He said, "I am pleased with you my son. Ask for anything you want." He said, "I want my mother alive." And He said, "So be it." and she got up and walked off. The Guru is the Master, when you say of destiny, it means life and death. He must be the Master of your life as he must be the Master of your death.

Freedom....(responsibility)
From Book " Salient Features of Sahaj Marg" Series 2 (page 26)....

In examining this idea of freedom, we have been led to the conclusion that what we have thought of as freedom is nothing but a state of surrender to the Master's will. We have not lost freedom in the sense that we have been deprived of it. We have voluntarily, whole-heartedly and devotedly surrendered it to the Master of our Soul. To those who are fortunate enough to arrive at this stage, the Master is no longer a guide for spirituality alone. He has now become the Master of one's life in all it's aspects of existence. He becomes the father, the mother, the son, the teacher, the doctor, in fact, there is no role that He does not play in the abhyasi's life. He has taken total charge of the abhyasi. So we see that only our surrendering to Him can bring about a state where He can take total charge of us!

Analysing this further we find, surprisingly, that a great and unimaginable freedom is now confered on the abhyasi. It is the freedom from freedom itself. It is the freedom of invulnerability. We may even say that it is the freedom of invincibility. We are no longer answerable for our actions. We merely obey. The person who issues the orders, the Master, assumes complete responsibility for anything we do. We are no longer vulnerable to the world. Therefore, a great calm, a great freedom comes to us. Out of our apparent loss of previous freedom- largely illusory as we have seen- we now receive a divine gift, the true freedom of a spiritual state, a real freedom which some saints have called "The Great Liberation".

Maxim 2...(Spiritual cloning)

Now for the form of prayer which may ensure the greatest good to everyone. I may say that one should be brought to the same state of mind which is usually developed at the time of prayer. The feeling that he as a true servant approaches the great Master in the humble capacity of an insignificant beggar must be engrossed upon his mind. He may put up everything before his Master, resigning himself completely to His will. In other words he may assume his real form after surrendering everything to the Master. He should withdraw himself from all sides and turn completely towards Him losing all worldly charms. The remembrance of everything should merge into the remembrance of One -- the Ultimate, resounding all through in every particle of his being. This may be known as complete annihilation of self. If one develops in this state, in my view he should be considered as an embodiment of prayer. Every thought of his will be synonymous with that of the Master. He will never turn towards anything that is against the Divine will. His mind will always be directed towards that which is the Master's command.

Philosophy in Sahaj Marg

On the Philosophy of Sahaj Marg, Chari in a speech on New Year's Day, 2005 at Babuji Memorial Ashram, Manapakkam, INDIA, said:

"There is no room for philosophy in speeches of Sahaj Marg. In fact, Sahaj Marg has no philosophy. It does not rest on any philosophy. It is neither advaita nor dvaita nor vishishta advaita."

Ignorance is Bliss....
From Book "Salient features of Sahaj Marg" Series 2 (Page 20)

The fact of unknowing, which Lalaji expressed so simply- Ignorance is Bliss. When there is a fire and I don't know that there is a fire, I am comparatively happier than if I know there is a fire.....

Be Like Lions

From Book "Salient Features of Sahaj Marg" Series 2 (Page 21)

Look within. Look to the Heart. Build your heart. Make it brave, make it strong, make it courageous. Be Lions, as Babuji wanted. He said: "One lion is worth more that five hundred sheep." It is not that we do not accept sheep but we accept sheep who are willing to become lions, not sheep who want to stay on as sheep.......And what was but a shepherd's pen has now become the jungle in which the lions roam freely. This is what we are setting out to achieve....
.....He wanted our hearts to be like lions - brave, courageous, capable of discrimination, able to give up everything for the sake of the Master.

Dying in Love

When there is love between two persons, wether husband and wife, father and son, mother and daughter, friends, guru and disciple- if this real love is there between the two, there will automatically develop a mutual respect, a mutual regard, even a mutual admiration, perhaps even a mutual worship. Because friendship must ripen into love, love must ripen into adoration. Adoration must ripen into worship, into surrender and then into extinction of the self.
Therefore you see, loving is dying. To love is to die. ........

No Diseases with Sahaj Marg.

A Publication of the India Network Foundation, Bowling Green, Ohio, USA
Founder and President, Dr. K. V. Rao.

President of Sri Ramchandra Mission, Shahjahanpur (UP), Umesh Chandra Saxena, has said that regular meditation will keep all diseases at bay. He said in Visakhapatnam on Friday that Pranahuthi - the forgotten art of yogic transmission - was revived and popularised by the mission's founder Sri Ramachandra Mahara (Lalaji) and his successor, Babuji.

Idol Worship

From Book: "Salient Features of Sahaj Marg" (SMRI Series 3) Page 52-53

Sahaj Marg has nowhere said temple worship is wrong, nor does Master expressly forbid idol worship. ....

To other abhyasis, the preceptor has become such an idol. I believe that any abhyasi who says, "my preceptor" when talking about the preceptor who is serving him has fallen into this form of idol worship. Here it is the preceptor who has been transformed into an idol, or idolised. Here again the Master may be in the background, but is that Master's rightful place? When Master says that every gods are fuctionaries of Nature, and are there to serve, and not to be served, can we deify preceptors and relatives in this way?

I must say that preceptors generally do not fall into this error. But abhyasis idolize them to the extent of ascribing to them the credit which should go to the Master. Where our credit is given, there goes our gratitude and this is followed by our love. So, wrongly ascribed credit can be disastrous in leading to the creation of an idol for us. So Master's message is quite clear. All credit goes to our Master. When we give credit where it is not due, that too is a form of idol worship. We should beware of falling into such errors.......

Relationships

Page 19....

Connections with relations should be established in such a way that the inner bond should appear severed. However one should be a partner in their joys and sorrows. This should be with everybody.

Refrain from entering into monetary transactions. When they are in dire need, financial help should be given to the extent that one does not feel sorry if the money is not returned, and relations are not strained.

Donations...

Page 25....

If you think that it is your Mission, it is your Master, it is His plant, therefore, it is yours, then there is no sacrifice, there is no giving. You are only watering your own plant. Who should you credit for it?

To think that my Master depends on my donation could very possibly be a sin. Masters exist in a dimension where money does not play a part. Whenever he makes us donate something, he does so to lighten our burdens. Our contribution to our Master's work is perhaps of the same proportion as the squirrel's contribution to Lord Rama's work.

....But they did it out of a sense of participation, like children participating in the work. Out of Love, you see, participation out of Love.

Page 32.....

Rightness....

I have known Master refusing a beggar five rupees. I have known Master castigating our foreign abhyasis when they came and paid the rikshawwala ten rupees when the standard fare was three rupees. He was not generous. He was always right. Rightness does not mean generosity, rightness does not mean honesty, it does not mean anything. .....

Master’s (Chariji) New Year Address (2002)

…So, since you asked me to speak, I’m speaking. I hope you are listening carefully, and you will ATTEMPT to follow the practise sincerely, with dedication, with absolute faithfulness to the practice, so that within a few short months, you will be able to feel in yourself that, "Yes, there is something in me which has changed. Yes, I see it myself, therefore I don’t need others to tell me anything about it. I am happy, so I don’t need other people to make me happy. I am content, I don’t need anything else to make me content. Where I sit in peace, thinking of my Master, I have the sole companion in my life whom I need. I don’t need anybody else to give me company.
Then you will find happiness in Sahaj Marg , you will find fulfillment in Sahaj Marg . You will be ALONE but NEVER LONELY. YOU WILL HAVE NO RELATIVES, but you will have the one friend without whom we can do nothing and whom we don’t have, though we have many friends! He who has no Master, may have many friends but no real friend. He who has the Master may have only one friend but He is the real friend. And may that true friend be with you, guide you, help you, and take you to Himself.

Happy New Year, and may the Master bless you.
Thank you.

How to Surrender? (become a "living dead") (paraphrased from many books)

To effect the surrender of God in the easiest way, only an act of will is required. Self surrender is nothing but a state of complete resignation to the will of Master with total disregard of self.

1. The only effective way to attach one’s self firmly to the Abhyas is, to link himself with the Unlimited or in other words with one who, having linked himself with the unlimited, has attained the state of perfection. When you have linked yourself thus it means that the great personality has taken you in the bosom of his heart. Your effort towards going deep into it means you have taken up the path towards the Ultimate. That is what the word surrender conveys and which is the only surest path for the attainment of complete perfection. So long as you do a thing and know that you are doing it, it is not the right course and you are away from the level of surrender, because the feeling of ego is also there. Surrender is free from any conscious idea of ego. Everything there goes on in an automatic way according to the need of the moment without any previous or after thought.

2. The easiest and surest means to achieve this end (Absolute State) is to surrender yourself to the great Master in true sense and become a ‘Living Dead’ yourself. This feeling of surrender if cultivated by forced and mechanical means seldom prove to be genuine. It must develop automatically within you without the least strain or pressure upon the mind. Even if the knowledge of this fact is retained then it is not the true form of surrender. What remains to be done, when you have surrendered yourself in true sense, is, I believe, nothing. In this state you will be in close touch with Reality all the time and the current of Divine Effulgence will continue its flow to you without a break.

Talk on 21st November 2001. 7 a.m.

Dehradun (While addressing a family, about to be newly introduced to the system, after he had spoken to them about the system for about 1 hour) It is an important thing this that when we accept a Master, we accept Him completely. It is not that He is only a Master for spirituality, and we look to others for other things.


Question: Will the dependence on the Master ever stop?
From Book "Spider's Web" (volume 1) page 53

An Abhyasis asked the Master: "You are always talking of liberation and freedom, but everything you teach seems to need more and more dependence on the Master. Can you please explain this?"
Master replied, "Yes, you are right. But the attachment and dependence on the Master is only for the purpose of detaching you from the rest of creation, and finally, a stage comes when the dependence on the Master is cut. Thereafter, you are on you own in direct contact with God."

Page 90

....This is the way of the spiritual soldier.

Page 91

On Astrology...

Whatever may be the status of astrology as a science, sincere abhyasis of the Mission should not be guided by it because my Master has categorically said that sadhana is to change one's destiny. Therefore, for a sincere abhyasi, astrology cannot and will not work. It can only talk about the past very accurately. The future is in our hands to create with my Master's grace, blessing and help. Your coming into the Mission may have been because of your merit carried over from the past. However, nobody can leave the Mission exept through foolishness and superstitious belief in other things. So you should never think of this.

Unnoticeable Progress

Page 93

....It is Master's grace that we are moving so rapidly from change to change without most of the persons perceiving anything. What a great protection Master offers us.

Page 95..

...If you want to become perfect, you should emulate your Master in all aspects of life.

Talk at Satkhol Jan 29, 2001 (transcribed from Video)

Q : Master, the desire to reach the goal, you cannot call it a desire to reach the goal ?
R : One man, one time.
Think, think !
We have got into too much of these stereotypes,
Q : Of what?
R : Stereotypes, that insulin is necessary for diabetes, vaccine for this, something for
that.

(Speaking with the 2 girls)
We have to do it. See, suppose you feed me, you have given away one meal for which you should have worked for years. So, a man can give, or a human being gives only by taking somebody’s else share.

Why Women Cannot Be Master in SRCM


12:30 p.m. On why a lady cannot be a Master Babuji said that a Master of that caliber gets orders from above, and their work includes that of destruction. A woman is not capable of such destruction. All this talk about equality between men and women the more they talk about something, the less they will get it. Equality is different from equalization. There are high pressure and low pressure areas. In the process of equalization, the wind flows from here to there, and this process if what creates the climate. If the pressure were the same everywhere, there would be no climate. This is the way of nature: Inequality Equalization Inequality Equalization (alluding to a low pressure building, winds blowing from other high pressure areas, another low pressure building up, etc.) Today you see American woman trying to do everything that the male does. They join the navy seals It is not a job for them. I might offend the woman here, but God did not create both as equals. Each have their own sphere of functioning.

November 25, 2001, 8:45 a.m

Satkhol Before the morning satsangh, the door of the meditation hall was left open, and Master asked someone to close it. After this was done, an abhyasi walked in, leaving the door open again. This was closed, only for the same scene to happen yet again! Master said In the West, they have a habit to leave things as they were. If a door is open, they will leave the door open. If a door was closed, they will close the door behind them. They will leave things as they find it. This practice makes life very simple. There are many things we should learn from the West. It is the Indians who have the arrogance to leave things any which way. Some closes a door. Someone opens a door. It is a mess. (Later an abhyasi recalled a dream in which he saw Lalaji as Babuji as Love, and Chariji as Discipline). Master recalled Babujis directive in Paris (1982) to Him to bring discipline into the mission. But there are several people still in the mission who are undisciplined. So saying, He turned and looked at a girl who was sitting right next to Him (As if He was saying this to her). And almost immediately, she began to wipe off some tears from the corner of her eyes. And Master, looking at this, said Now, Dont you start. I do not understand women at all. Say the slightest of things harshly, and they begin to create a scene. It appears that I should only talk about superficial things like the food, the weather, etc. to them. Anything stronger than that, they cannot take it. I do not know what Mami (referring to His late wife) will think about all this. Maybe she will pull me up for what I am saying now, once I get to the brighter world. I do not know whether I am going there or not, but she is there. Babuji is saying You are doing good work. So continue doing it. You have built Satkhol. Go on, and build more places like this Master said that, in 2005, we would have a new ashram in Uttar Kashi, which is the place where the Sapta Rishis (the Seven Sages governing the universe) came down to the Earth to meditate. He also talked about an ashram in the place where Pathanjali had his ashram

On Homosexuality: http://www.srcm.org/literature/recent.speeches/060120_Malaysia.jsp

"So what wonders can it do if this is on a global scale? That is why Sahaj Marg is performing marriages—no questions asked, except whether you are old enough to get married, and whether you are a man and a woman. Unlike the churches in the world, we don’t perform same-sex marriages. That is unnatural. God did not intend it to be thus. Please excuse me, it is a personal comment, it is not Sahaj Marg. But there are things, as Babuji Maharaj said, "If God did not want two sexes, he could have as well created one and seen that the world propagated by itself." There are unicellular organisms called amoeba which just split when they want. No problems of sex, no problems of love and hate, no problems of, shall we say, illegitimate babies, no need for Viagra. You know, when it is big enough it just splits and there are two. "Behold, there was one and now there are two," says the Lord. So God could have done anything he wanted, you see. Why two sexes? Not so that one sex should marry among themselves, isn’t it? So, what the church may allow, I don’t have to condone or accept. To me, it is a very blatant misuse of so-called privileges of the human being, fundamental rights, et cetera. Of course, if you claim it is your fundamental right to go the dogs, so be it! Even God cannot stop it.

Why Group Sittings?

The third reason is easy: because He said so, and therefore, we obey. So you see, group satsanghs are important because they amplify our efforts, the results being far bigger than the sum of individual efforts, and we learn tolerance, respect and love.

My comments....

"Dependence on the Guru so as to detach yourself from the rest of creation", means detaching yourself from your family, friends, pets, problems of daily life, etc This is not "spirituality of the householder" as Sahaj Marg (the Natural Path) claims to be, but psychiatry…take a pill.

Loving and caring for the life and the world we have created is "spirituality of the householder", not escaping, navel gazing, detaching and shirking our responsibility. The type of spirituality they are selling for the living is one for the moment of death. No wonder they sell the "living dead" concept as "spiritual". Let them "die", we should remain alive (and have "more life", as Christ is quoted as saying) until we die, and try to help rather that deserting and neglecting in the name of GOD.

In Sahaj Marg, under Chari, the "serf" has an attachment (dependence/ addiction) to a person (a capitalist with materialist desires at that) that is not present (ie. living in India) and can request anything from his "serfs" (money, service etc…ie what the friends and family did),

The Guru promises to be there at death but he is not there now (except in the imagination or the mind), so? We (the family) will still have the duty of caring for the person until he/she dies, burying the body, and then the Guru will magically appear and take him/her to God….Yeah! Right! If anyone buys that, I got a Bridge for sale !!

Soldiers must always obey and are not free to disobey... (to the point of killing)...We are not soldiers, but pilgrims...We are FREE. Representative Democracy has made us freer and Direct Democracy will give us even more freedom (to vote on issues).....but we must forever protect (control/be on guard) ourselves from the religion, army and/or gang creators....Kings and Leaders with "divine inspiration", including the Indian Brahmin, in their greed and lust for power and immortality that always divide the citizenry into them and us......

Let them (the megalomaniacs) become Gods in their own minds and in their own mythologies and leave the good people (us) alone to mend the divisions they create.


Reverence, Respect and Restraint
About other religions (Christianity)

A talk given by Shri Parthasarathi Rajagopalachari at the Seminar in Vrads Sande, Denmark on 1st November, 2005
http://www.srcm.org/literature/recent.speeches/index.jsp

So you are lucky. If you were in religion, you would have to go to church and you know, tell lies in that wonderful place called the confessional. "Lord, forgive me for what I have done this week." And there’s an equally sinful priest on the other side of the curtain saying, "In the name of the Lord Jesus Christ I absolve you of your sins." Something he has no power to do. No man on earth has power to absolve you of your sins except two people: one yourself, and one your God. In between there is nobody who can do it. That is why religion is useless, that is why religion has failed. That’s why you are all here, not in church.

...and later

I am no Christ, you know, to crucify myself on the cross for all of you. Do you think Christ was a wise man, that he became crucified so that forever and ever after humanity is absolved of its sins? I don’t think so. It gave you more license for indulgence. But after all, you have been forgiven two thousand years ago for what you are going to do today, what your children are going to do ten years hence, and so on and so forth. I don’t think he was wise. He left no room, no incentive for human beings to change, become moral, become spiritual. You are all happy, you see, that you had a Christ who got crucified. None of us weep for Christ. We are happy. "God bless him," we say, which is another blasphemy. You need blessings, not Christ. So beware, you Europeans, strong, powerful, well-fed, rich, handsome. Ask yourself, "Quo vadis?


Sahaj Sandesh No.: 2005.31 - Wednesday, June 22, 2005
http://www.srcm.org/members/ssandesh/index.jsp

ABHYASI'S QUESTION:"..... why do I have to give up my existing religious practices....."
MASTER'S ANSWER: "All religious practice involve the worship of God as being outside us. It is called Bahya Upachara in Sanskrit. Spirituality puts God where HE really is - inside the human heart, and indeed at the heart of every created thing, as Lord Krishna says in the Bhagavad Gita. One cannot mix the two. In the Vedas Murthy Pooja is called the lowest form of worship. Mantra is only a way of pleasing the mind, and bhajans please the senses, while giving the illusion of being a form of worship. I trust that this will be satisfactory. If people have more questions, they should be encouraged to read the Gita slowly, and try to understand it. Love to all."

From: http://www.srcm.org/literature/recent.speeches/index.jsp

Adding Spirit to Knowledge
A talk given by Shri Parthasarathi Rajagopalachari
During the Republic Day Celebrations on 26th January, 2006
at Lalaji Memorial Omega School, Chennai, India

I have seen in the U.S. that past students of great universities donate in millions, and they are very affluent universities. People go from here and admire those campuses—eighty acres, hundred acres, magnificent structures, well-endowed laboratories, well-stocked libraries, computers, what have you—and they compare them with the poor facilities available in our country here. But without money, you know, we cannot achieve anything. And what we have achieved is with those moneys that have come in from mainly the U.S., our abhyasis. So if anybody asks you who built this school, and who is going to build the rest of it, you can say abhyasis of Shri Ram Chandra Mission whose heart was well developed by education, whose intelligence was honed razor sharp, to such an extent that the Indian community in the U.S. is considered to be the most affluent of the so-called aliens. We owe [to them] what we are going to do, what we have done and what we shall do in the future. So my gratitude to them, first and foremost.


Here is a quote from Chari in the SMRTI, Youth Services,

Chari Talks to Kids about God....
http://www.sahajmarg.org/youth/story92.html

My comments
(Flawed theology leads to flawed philosophy (or no philosophy as Chari likes to say of Sahaj Marg, and leads to corrupt institutions with followers with flawed theology, flawed philosophy, flawed logic, intellect, morals, ethics etc)
Look at the Curriculum and question the stories taught to the kids at the Lalaji Memorial OMEGA School. Why Omega and not Alpha/Omega. Or simply Lalaji Memorial School? Is it the END? The "Final Solution" or is it a CODE?
http://www.sahajmarg.org/youth/story92.html

Q: If God is formless and without attributes, why in the numerous books of literature in Sahaj Marg is God always referred to as "Him"?
Chariji: God is male. Nature is female.

Lesson from the School Curriculum…used in 100 schools in India including the LMOS (Lalaji Memorial Omega School) Why OMEGA?

I LOVE MY FRIENDS!
Objectives
Be friendly and not quarrelsome.
Show your love for your friends by sharing in their joys and sorrows.
Only people who love us and care for us criticize us by pointing out our mistakes. We must take the criticisms in the right spirit.

A way to begin

Tell them the story of Krishna and his friend Sudama. Since most of the children may be familiar with this story, ask them questions in between or deliberately make a mistake to see how attentive they are!
Tell them the story of how Krishna helped Arjun fight the Kurukshetra war. When Arjun declined from fighting the war because all his relatives were lined up against him. Krishna, who was Arjun’s best friend, advised Arjun and reminded him of his duties. This was how the immortal verses of Gita were born.
The two stories show what a good friend Krishna was. He helped when it was necessary but also criticized when it was needed. Let the children understand that God, who is our best friend, does the same way. He helps us when we need his help. When we do something wrong, He reminds us of it too!

CHAPTER I - GOD AND GURU

Ask them—"Are you afraid of your friends or do you love them? Do your friends help you or leave you when you are in trouble? If you think of God as your friend, will you be afraid of Him or will you love Him? As your friend, will He help you or leave you? What will you do to show your love for Him?" Discuss this point.

Tell them that teachers are our Gurus at school. Without their help it will be difficult to learn things. We will learn better if we respect and love our Gurus. Parents act as Gurus at home.

Story 2 - Do you know that in the olden days there were no schools as we have them today? There were teachers who lived in their ashrams. They were highly respected and students would go to them, stay with them for a few years, serve them in every way and learn from them. At the end of their study period they would offer something as their Guru Dakshina. The following story is about a boy who was eager to learn from a guru.

Jathila was the son of a poor widow. He wanted to study with a guru who lived across the forest but he was scared to go alone. His mother told him not to be scared and to call out for brother Gopal. Jathila believed in her and called out Gopal’s name when he went into the forest. Soon a cowherd appeared before him and asked him what he wanted. When he learnt about Jathila’s fears he told him not to be afraid and that he would help him. Everyday Jathila would call out to Gopal and with his escort, cross the forest. Soon the school term came to an end and Jathila was in a fix what to give his teacher as Guru dakshina. Gopal solved this problem by giving him a pot of curd. When the teacher tasted the curd, he found it so sweet and tasty that he wanted to know from where Jathila had got it. When Jathila narrated who had been helping him all these days, the teacher realized that innocent Jathila’s escort was no one else but God himself!

My comments (In French)...: Il faut proteger nos enfants de se fier aux etrangers, meme ceux qui sont vetus en Guru Indous on en "Stetson Blancs " a la Hollywood de Georges Bush.

Si vous pouvez changer ce curriculum, au moins vous aurez sauve les enfants de la desesperation que vous et plusieurs dans le Sahaj Marg resentent quand vos idols vous trahissent ou vous abusent. Demandez au Monsieur qui a perdu sa famille et lisez encore des souffrances sur Invertendo.com. Je ne pense pas que vous avez le pouvoir. Au Canada, Chari a pouvoir legale dans la societe SRCM Canada. (4 directeurs Canadiens et 7 directeurs etrangers (Indiens, et USA).
Les pauvres et simples qui tavaillent chez MacDonald ne decident pas du menu et des degradations morales et environementales causes par le "management team"….Bonne Chance!…

Dans mes recherches sur le Sahaj Marg,, contrairement a ce que disait Babuji, et Lalaji, le "management team" a fait cible sur les enfants avec un curriculum que je pense etre une autre example de la mentalite de control du Sahaj Marg. Ils appellent leur curriculum "value based spirituality". Ce curriculum est maintenant dans une centaines d’ecoles aux Indes, y inclus le Lalaji Memorial Omega School.
Voici en anglais, des sections que vous, qui leur donnez vos sous, avez finance et dorenavant sont "responsables" et devront repondre avec votre karma ou des "samskaras". Dieu est juste. Chari n’est pas Dieu. Vos yeux sont maintenant ouverts. Vous pouvez voir le curriculum au site SMRTI, avec un mot de passe, car ils le cachent maintenant. J’en ai fait copie.

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Letter from Michael, Ex-Preceptor of SRCM

Letter from Ex-preceptor of Shri Ram Chandra Mission

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I was involved with SRCM for over 10 years. I started in 1979 and became a preceptor in 1988. I chose to leave the organization in 1990, when forced to accept all authority in the organization without question, even if it goes against the principles of the organization itself. Since leaving, I've learned much about the true history of Sahaj Marg including meeting one of Lalaji's last living diciples. I found that Sahaj Marg is actually Sufism, which probably had its roots in ancient Yogic practicies. Lalaji NEVER intended an organization to be formed around his legacy. He chose not to create one in his life and only encouraged those around him to continue their spiritual quest and spark the spiritual quest of others. I've met Babjuji - very impressive and loveable man, but all his proclaimations of authority and exclusivity are based on visions and dreams we can only trust he actually had. Sahaj Marg has several significant flaws, many of which go against the very principles it expounds:

1. They believe that only the highest regions of spiritual attainment are only possible through devotion to the living successor/Mastor of Shri Ram Chandra Mission. They don't acknowledge this to new abhyasis, who are told instead, simply to try the practice and see the benefit. Its the classic bait and switch guru trick and is taught to Preceptors in their "Preceptors Only" books and training sessions.

2. Money runs the organization. Raising money is a constant discussion within preceptor meetings, although the changes in the organization may have moved this responsibility to regional coordinators. I sat in secret meetings discussing how to get recently joined wealthy abhyasis more involved so that they will donate. Sadly many of those people had no idea that they received such favoratism and access to Chari because of their money, not their spiritual purity.

3. The inner circle around Chari is controled and manipulated by their lust for personal power and self importance. My run in with Chari revolved around his assumption that I actually coveted my position as preceptor, which I didn't. He remains upset to this day that he could not control me as he does others using promise of preceptorship, spiritual power, and access to the "inner circle" if only I would just obey him and "The Mission" without question.

4. If Sahaj Marg is to be judged it should be judged by the quality of their abhyasis and their progress, not the principles that it expounds. Many abyasis and preceptors have serious mental illnesses that continue to worsen over the years. Many involved and in positions of power continue to show after 20-30 years, no reduction in selfish, egotistical behavior. This is because, while the philosophy sounds pure, the organization thrives on position, money, power, physical closeness to the "Master", and above all, unquestioning obedience to the Master. I recieved a letter once from Chari that insisted that I was disobedient in matters of the Mission - I guess because I questioned the sanity and integrity of some in positions of authority. Interesting concept, but not published in any Sahaj Marg books. Not even the ones you pre-pay $250 for.

Personally, I have found my last 15+ years away from SRCM far more enriching than my experiences in SRCM. I've had to face my own shadows and have found gentle guidance in the absence of Chari, who insisted privately to those around him that I would surely have a great spiritual fall. I continue on my spiritual quest with inspiration and confidence as you all will as well if you choose to leave. The divine is not so exclusive as to limit access only to such an obscure organization.

... and as for Suyash's comment that , "We all donate out of faith and love of Sahaj Marg, Nothing else"... Well, I guess the concept of "obedience to the mission" is now an official thing. I'd plead with him and others that think alike to question this thinking they've been indoctrinated in. I respectfully suggest Suyash and others re-read Reality At Dawn, especially the part about charging money for spiritual training, that it should be free and is everyone's birthright.

Then there's the part about God not being found in an organization or a sect. Then again, Reality At Dawn used to cost $1.50 and was given away for free to new abhyasis. I certainly hope that abhyasis these days aren't avoiding the older books because they don't cost as much as the new ones!

With honor to the divine in YOU,

Michael