Our World from Another Dimension

Sahaj Marg(tm) and the Urgency of Spiritual Realization!

2012-01-29T10:45:00.005-08:00

Taken and translated from an article by Elodie: "L'urgence de la realization spirituelle", on her blog in Europe: Pour Que Vive Le Sahaj Marg.

The Urgency of Spiritual Realization

One must believe that I was not yet ready to hear and understand the analysis of Michael when he published it. Yet it is irrefutable and relentless.

Michael was a U.S. abhyasi (and preceptor) from 1979 to 1988. He lived the sad transition from Babuji to Chari from very closely having been involved in the committee for dissemination and censorship of the speeches of Chari. He paid the price of the power struggles within the circle of the closest disciples of Chari.

The full testimony is posted on his blog http://innercircleofsrcm.blogspot.com/

While Sahaj Marg is synonymous with the "natural way", it is actually a practice that cheats nature by force of will to accelerate a "natural" development. It is based on the acceptance that we start from a level of spiritual insufficiency, which requires an external force to rectify the situation.

Babuji's message is that we are not spiritually developed enough and that there is an urgency to do so, the divine realization becomes complete when we reach the Central Region, a brighter world.

The method of Sahaj Marg achieves this goal through meditation on the heart, but it requires a living Master so as to be accelerated, which will promote the spiritual transmission. This is the first crucial point, the dependence vis-à-vis a teacher but there is another, it is the (claimed) exclusivity of the method of Sahaj Marg, which will lead one to serve the Mission.

Doubly blind and total dependence on the Master and the Mission, of the disciple who wants to progress.

Babuji has instilled the idea that we are spiritual midgets, and that it is urgent to progress, and that he has a method to achieve in an ordinary lifetime, the merger with the Divine in the Central Region. If we as spiritual aspirants, want to grow spiritually, we need an all-powerful master and a method incarnated in the SRCM Mission.

The result? The abhyasis jostle for spiritual favors from the Master, in the hope of getting an improvement in return, their just reward. The goal of the spiritual aspirant becomes blind service to the mission, total obedience to the Master for his favor. In theory, the action of the disciple is disinterested, in practice, it is the opposite: he/she is terribly interested, he/she seeks a spiritual reward.

As the spiritual aspirant is not alone, he/she must surpass his/her co-disciples, his/her competitors, to better attract the attention of the Master and get more out of him, enjoying his favor.

The urgency of the result to be achieved, (and) the need to go through a Master to do so, create a competitive atmosphere where all jostle for his (the Master) attention. It's a fierce and selfish competition.

The other result is that in theory there is spiritual transmission from the master to the disciple, but in reality there is only one transfer: the power of the disciple to the Master, the sole beneficiary of this vast spiritual fraud.

Some time ago, I asked these questions at the end of my reflection on the theme of: "Chari, Spiritual Mafiosi"?

What does it serve to join a spiritual group, to follow the teaching of a master and to be supported by a preceptor? Is it just to go faster and to not get lost on the path of spirituality?

How does one choose a good spiritual teacher? How does one recognize him without being misled by false pretenses? How does one trust him without alienating one's freedom and losing one's free will?

The analysis of Michael brings some good answers: let us leave the spiritual nature happen (naturally) without trying to speed it up, so we will not have to lose our freedom. Chari took the power that we gave him, and used it for his own personal ends.

Why always want to go faster, including in spirituality? This concept of urgency, constantly picked up by Babuji and Chari, has nothing spiritual, it is even contradictory. Urgency is instead a modern and materialist concept, an idea that is largely responsible for all the ills of our society.

The SRCM is a wonderful example of our frenzy to reach a goal, a spiritual realization which leads us to the most selfish and competitive conduct.

I remind you that the debate continues and you can get involved by posting a comment on

http://pourquevivelesahajmarg.blogspot.com/2011/10/chari-un-spirituel-mafieux.html

Elodie

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For Sahaj Marg(tm), a New Court Episode?

2012-01-12T11:14:00.011-08:00

Taken and translated from an article by Elodie: "Nouveaux Episodes Judiciaires", on her blog: Pour Que Vive Le Sahaj Marg.

It seems that this is a continuation of the old feud between the two (or more) Sahaj Marg's and the two or more SRCM's ... Because SRCM is registered as a charity, we all share in paying their legal expenses with our "tax exempt" subsidies to charities, under the "education" misnomer. Let your taxation offices know your concerns.

God and His Godmen does not need to be "TAX EXEMPT"!! Support your own spiriutalist (and homophobic) beliefs by yourselves, not with society's tax exempt incentives meant for real CHARITIES.

The male God of Sahaj Marg (tm) (or His representatives) can pay HIS taxes like every other PERSON !! The adherents to Sahaj Marg(tm) System are free to put their faith in their alleged "all powerful God", and not rely in the secular (tax) systems of man! No more "tax exempt" for Religion and Spritualism under the misnomer of "education"... Most religions indoctrinate the children with fantasy presented as truth!

Notice the tricky use of SRCM (Shahjahanpur), the society of the Babuji family, which is allegedly presided by Navneet, Babuji's grandson) in the WIPO deposition ... as sneaky as a lawyer!! Does the Sahaj Marg (tm) system offer: Divinity or dishonesty, a state away from our "animal state" ? And all these battles for the corrupt "material", as animals for a carcass of the temporal realm; is that the SPIRITUALISM of Sahaj Marg (tm)??

New Court Episodes?

In the legal battle between the two (2) SRCM's, a new court decision was taken on September 14, 2011.

Read about it: http://www.ipab.tn.nic.in/151-2011.htm

It opposed the SRCM of Shahjahanpur, represented by Puneet Chandra Saxena, grand-son of Babuji and brother of Navneet, and the registered trademark (Sahaj Marg(tm)) of SRCM(California) of Chari.

I'm not sure I understand, but it seems that the authority of the Justice has found itself not competent to rule on the question of who is able to represent the Shri Ram Chandra Mission.

Your opinion, and especially your information are welcome.

Another decision was made November 25, 2011. Read here:
http://www.wipo.int/amc/en/domains/decisions/text/2011/d2011-1573.html

It opposed the SRCM of Shahjahanpur, represented by lawyers of Chari (?) to the creators of the website (Sahaj Marg Systems.com ... now off-line). SRCM of Chari is presented as the custodian of the brand "Sahaj Marg" in India, Australia, New Zealand, the United States, in the Benelux countries and on the Island of Mauritius.

If I understand the decision of the Arbitration Commission correctly, the creator of the site is ordered to give the domain name to the SRCM (California) of Chari.

Thank you for your insights on these issues.

Elodie.
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Kasturi, Lalaji and Sahaj Marg(tm)'s Whispers From The Brighter World!

2012-01-08T22:21:00.009-08:00

Taken and translated from an article by Alexis: "Kasturi, Lalaji et Whisper" , on Elodie's blog in Europe: Pour Que Vive Le Sahaj Marg

Sister Kasturi, the only saint of Sahaj Marg, according to Babuji, is one of the first preceptors of Babuji (1945-46). Kasturi supported Chari for a while and then there was a "parting of the ways", and she is now not part of the SRCM(California) of Chari.

It seems that Spiritualism is rampant in this group! But, where is the spirituality? Why all the competition, the divisions, and the spiritualist incantations to, as well as the reliance on the spirits of the deceased, the special personalities, Godmen, Saints, the extra-terrestrials, the aliens, the egregores, the indigo children, an elite race, THEM, etc..?

When do we as a species (or "they", the elite, the chosen, the "special") become RESPONSIBLE ?

Does prayer and a promise of the forgiveness of one's sins, make a "religious" person? Does medation and the promise of erasing of one's samskaras make a "spiritual" person?

Kasturi, Lalaji and Sahaj Marg(tm)'s Whispers (From the Brighter World)

Elodie will not like (this)!

Now, spirituality progresses around the world, it is a golden time for spirituality, a golden era. So Kasturi decided to celebrate the Basant Panchami in Lucknow on 27, 28 and 29 January 2012 in honor of Lalaji, and she invites all abhyasis.

“Now Spirituality is increasing in every part of the World. (…) This is golden time and golden Era in Spirituality.” (Saint Sister Kasturiji, Lucknow on 01.05.2011)

She prayed to Babuji for two years before he permitted her to celebrate this important holiday, so it's not her desire, Kasturi, but his, Babuji's. Phenomenal ...

“I am praying to Shri Babuji Maharaj for the past two years to do one big function about Shri Lalaji Saheb. Two months back Shri Babuji Maharaj gave me permission to do that Special Function. So it is not my desire.”

But that is not enough for her. Would you believe that Kasturi is also rounding up all the saints from the Brighter World for her celebration. Lalaji and Babuji are not enough for her, Swami Vivekananda is in the game, as are other great saints.

“This is because, Rev. Lalaji Saheb, Rev. Babuji Maharaj & Swamy Vivekanandaji and some other great saints, all are eagerly waiting, from the Brighter-World, for this Divine-Bhandare (Basanta Panchami - 2012) to bestow their Special blessings & Grace to whole humanity.”

Certainly, Kasturi has nothing to envy Chari!

The humble Kasturi, always kept in the shadow of Babuji, suddenly takes advantage of the progress of the spiritual needs, to round up as many people (and spirits) in a gigantic spiritual High Mass.

And why such a High mass in honor of Lalaji? Whereas according to this worshiper of Babuji (Kasturi), Lalaji had the Sant Mat, still present at Fatehgarh, and there was not the slightest connection with Sahaj marg. Still according to her (Kasturi), it is Babuji alone who had Sahaj Marg and the SRCM. The mission is his.

But for this High Mass, she sought Babuji's permission, which eventually he granted, after two years of prayers, moaning and whining. So, much like the medium of Whispers, she now reveals that she chats with him directly. So much good it brings her! ...

Except that all the great saints from the Brighter world are united for the success of the High Mass.

While Kasturi declared to Shashwat Pandey on February 20, 2009: “did Chariji hear the name of “brighter world” during Babuji’s time, or before him or after him? (… ) where ever did he heard this name? (…) did he ever hear this name “brighter world” (laughs..) and then there are messages from this place!”

Yes, Kasturi, one has to be careful what one says! In 2009, the Brighter world did not exist (it seems). Two years later, you've discovered it ...

Poor us, poor Elodie, poor Cyril, Denise and Jean-François (preceptors with Kasturi's schism of Sahaj Marg) . Kasturi is (allegedly) an arrant liar, a liar like all people of Sahaj Marg. Babuji is first ...

Alexis

Elodie Said:

Hi Alexis,

Contrary to what you think, I accept the criticism of Sister Kasturi, I'm not an inveterate fan.

Maybe you're right, but I propose another explanation for her remarks, where there is not the slightest contradiction:

- Sister Kasturi said that Lalaji actually has nothing to do with the Sahaj Marg, but she added that he prayed for the coming to earth of the "special personality", Babuji. As such, she may well pay tribute to him.

- Sister Kasturi never said that the brighter world did not exist. She doubts that Chari has ever approached it, which is very different. She adds herself that Babuji had taken her to the limits of our world of the living and the Brighter World, where the greatest saints live, and she had hence caught a glimpse.

Much love,

Elodie

Sunday, January 8, 2012

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Sahaj Marg(tm) and Whispers. Decryption (No. 6)

2012-01-03T09:59:00.016-08:00

Taken from Alexis's blog in Europe, the Sahaj Marg Project: Un Message Que Vous Ne Pouvez Pas Comprendre, D'abord Tenu Secret, Et Inlassablement Répété

Again, for Sahaj Marg (tm), it's those darned "extra-terrestrials", those "aliens", the Sahaj Marg(tm) "cavalry" !! (as in the Hollywood western movie genre !!) We'll be saved by THEM. THEY know better, and THEY're benevolent ... we hope!!

Are these "aliens" taking over the whole planet, the Galaxy or just " THE WEST"? Is there a "hidden message" here for the WEST in ancient greek mythology? For Troy, the adage became: "Beware of Greeks bearing gifts!!"

In the case of Sahaj Marg(tm), it could read: "Beware of materialist pseudo-spiritual geeks baring grits (liberals or the WEST)!" Or could that read: "spiritualists in spiritual (or invisible?) clothing!"

"THEY" (another Master Race, another "chosen few"... ) are coming with their spiritualist "aliens" and their invented (by their anonymous French lady medium) "extra-terrestrials" (angels?? archangels?? demons?? ) !!

This is a historical: Heads up!! We've been here before!! Many religions seem to be the same, using SPIRITUALISM ... this sort of invented spiritualist fantasy is also used by some materialists to gather the "bad" MATERIAL and/or the "addictive" or lustful power (land, money, etc...)

This group is controlled (and not democratically) by a so-called "chosen" few materialists (businessmen), nationalists and self-titled spiritualists. And, they attempt to control the MATERIAL with spiritualism

(See their Constitution and By-laws, where they state explicitely to being a "dictatorship in favour of the President", and having "standards of spiritualism" !! These "standards" are never written or spoken, unlike the Raja Yoga of Patanjali ... the REAL and complete spiritual path, not the one which Sahaj Marg(tm) adherents claim to practice, and which begins at step #7 of an eightfold path.)

A Message That You Can Not Understand, At First Kept Secret, But Endlessly Repeated
Whispers: decryption (6)

Quotes from "Whispers From The Brighter World", a major fund-raiser for SRCM (California), as compiled by an anonymous French lady Medium, who claims to be channeling Babuji, and others (aliens, extra-terrestrials, beings of light, etc...)

"The effect of these writings is proportional to the interest in reading. (...) The sum of these messages can not be ignored. Whatever reactions they arouse, they mark the reader. We repeat knowingly. This is the best way to capture the attention and to make that our words are truly heard. Human beings are so made. Sometimes, one has to strike hard for the truth to reach deep within them. All the great esoteric movements have understood this. Understanding is developed in successive phases to flower in the objective consciousness So he makes his, this truth that seems obvious. "(20.11.2000) -

" The teachers of all times, used parables to express themselves. You can not force the deaf to hear, it's also why there are few chosen. Really understanding what is hidden in seemingly innocuous words is not given to everyone. (...) A reading, however superficial, prepares for future progress. About the quantity of messages written, we hope that many reach their goal - understand who can. " (21.12.2000) -

(This quote seems to be chanelled from the "extra-terrestrials", the "aliens" themselves ? Oh! My God!! They are in contact with the Sahaj Margees through their MEDIUM, not the Guru or the Master !! Who is the real Master here? )

" Our laws are not easily understood by humans. We do not solve earthly affairs in your way. Once again, my daughter, do not be overcome by doubt. Your mediumistic ability is not at issue in this story. You must adapt to our speech and to our formulas, you can not understand their deeper meaning. Do not rely on statements which may mislead you. They are to be decoded by my son, then do not get emotionally involved in the vagaries of the business of the Mission. They regulate the rhythm of life, taking into account the perpetual play of humans - changing and unreliable. " (02/01/01) -

"These writings (whispers?) will long be forgotten before they re-emerge into the open. So if it suits you to consider that it is a fiction, we see no objection. "(02/25/01) -

" A new world is being prepared. You can imagine it. It is out of range of your understanding. " (11/03/01) -

" Man is an element in this great All, created by a unique and divine will in a universal plan which is indecipherable for him, regardless of his level of intelligence. " (27/03/03) -

" We must move beyond this stage, these messages kept secret for now, and start dealing with other banks of the spirit, where few humans venture. It would be time to open their eyes on their little person (...). " (26/10/03) -

" Such a change is prepared well in advance. It is expected in view of the major changes that go far beyond this planet, we can not yet reveal the strategy. " (07/23/04) -

" (...) this planet is somewhat experimental, subject to many tests on various components. " (29/09/04)

Let us Summarize!

These messages are kept secret for now. These writings will remain long forgotten. Understand who can. You must adapt to our speech and our formulas, you can not understand the deeper meaning. They are to be decoded by my son (Chari? or ??) . These prophecies do not concern you. A new world is being prepared. You can imagine it. It is out of range of your understanding. We can not yet reveal the strategy. This planet is somewhat experimental, subject to many tests. It would be time to open their eyes to their little person. Repetition is the basis of teaching. We must strike hard to flower in the consciousness, so that it becomes an obvious and objective truth.

Repetition is the basis of indoctrination

"We repeat deliberately, it is the best way to capture the attention. All the great esoteric movements have understood this (...) Teachers of all times, used the parable to express themselves. "

Repetition: I already talked about the importance of this technique in manipulating the crowds. Clearly, the medium knows well how to use it, and her approach is fully conscious. This indoctrinates the abhyasis gradually by dint of always repeating the same thing ... with something incomprehensible!

Emergency and misunderstanding

It is urgent, this is the first message endlessly repeated. It is time to open your eyes. But it's secret, you can not understand and it does not concern you. Only Chari is able to decode these messages, we (the aliens?) also do not disclose the strategy.

So in Whispers, you tirelessly repeat a secret message first, and then you can not understand it. The contradiction is obvious, permanent, and probably voluntary. The medium has mastered the art of saying everything and its opposite. The abhyasis reads but does not budge ...

A Very presumptuous Babuji

"It is time to open their eyes on their little person." This planet is experimental and subject to many tests. "The Babuji of Whispers is presumptuous. Our "little person" is doing well, thank you very much, let us hope that the medium is concerned only with her Special Personality and will not submit us to experimental testing. We will do better without them ... better for us?

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Abhyasi of Sahaj Marg(tm) is Angry and Outraged!!

2011-12-15T10:39:00.014-08:00

Taken and translated from a comment by Alexis (the interpretation of Whispers is Polemics), which is a reply to Mounis (see comment with Mounis' anger and outrage here), on Elodie's blog in Europe: Pour Que Vive Le Sahaj Marg.

Insertions and comments by 4d-don are in "red italics"

For Mounis (or "Moonie") ... your so-called "illumination" has many "hues" . There's the red of anger and lust. And, there's the green of greed, and desire, and more ...

Illumination, or enlightenment should carry knowledge of, not addiction to, or control by, all of the human emotional colours united to form the "WHITE" light of Cosmic Consciousness.

New Age Man! ;-))

Elodie said...

The interpretation of Whispers is Polemics

Mounis has just react violently to the decryption (of Whispers) by Alexis. He / she must not be alone in this case, but is one of the few people to take the step, and leave a message.

I share the point of view of Alexis, but I'm willing to hear other arguments. I opened this debate exactly for that. It is unfortunate that the abhyasis do not participate more. I have always published their criticisms or attacks of any kind. In a real debate there always comes good things. The ball is in your court. Speak up, you will be published and we will discuss.

The location of the debate here (in French) (comment in English on this blog)

Below is a quick summary of the arguments of Alexis

Elodie

Mounis said ...

Well. You are all just idiots! You do not even know what you think! Just look at Babuji's comments on the fall of the Soviet empire and the rest.

The United States is impoverished.

You are not up to judging a spiritual Master.

You are just minions, putting on airs over your fate. I pity you very much!

Know that the master is the master, you are not up to understanding any of his thoughts or attitudes.

Instead of wasting your time on frivolous attitudes, think about his life and what he has dedicated to you.

Shame on all those who publish such ridiculous comments. Shame on you all! Too bad, seeing you at this point. So go to your church and confess your sins of pigs, but do not say another word about my Master.

Wednesday, December 14, 2011

Alexis Said ...

Man (kind) has lost its mind

It is amusing to note that Whispers says that man(kind) has lost its mind, when Chari, on the other hand, repeats that we have to stop thinking and open our hearts. To remain in the sphere of the mind is to deny the spirituality that is the voice of the heart ...

In popular parlance, the heart, it is the emotions, the head is the reason. And Whispers tells us that things are not right because man has lost his mind. Like love, the lower instincts, such as hatred, revenge, etc.. are indeed emotions, (said to be) emanations of the heart. There are some positive, others negative. But Chari never said one had to listen only to the positive emotions from one's heart, he said one must listen to his heart, that's it!

Man has (those who have) listened to his heart, and he has lost his mind but so far, has not gained spirituality. And nothing works, we must change everything. Mankind must find reason again, then reconnect with the sphere of the mind. But it must also grow spiritually. So how?

One more contradiction, understand who can, and this is not the last ...

Danger, the punishment is coming!

Whispers exploits fears. Since the end of the glorious 30's and the first oil crisis, our world is going from crisis to crisis. The year 2011 is the year of disasters: climate, nuclear, economic, financial and social, etc.. The world is in permanent crisis. And Whispers benefits by surfing the wave of ambiant decline. We are not very far from the Apocalypse any more. (I will return) ...

Man will have to pay for his mistakes, it is the divine punishment. One is close to the Judeo-Christian imagination when, irritated by humans, God unleashed the flood.

Would "Whispers" want to make us believe in the vengeance of a cruel God? And that the SRCM will be Noah's Ark?

A vengeful and cruel God, is this the image of God in spirituality, Sahaj Marg style?

Disasters or Apocalypse?

All components of the Apocalypse are present, but the word is never uttered. Whispers prefers a new era of cataclysms. From one "whisper" to the other, the causes go from climate change to nuclear and vice versa. For nuclear, human responsibility is obvious, but the climate is much less clear. It does not help the discourse, which is bent on blaming mankind.

Whispers hesitates between nuclear disaster and climate disruption

In another life, Babuji was already announcing that the heat of the sun was dropping, the gulf stream would be diverted, that volcanoes would produce toxic gases for humanity and that the UK would sink into the ocean, etc.. It was already reality at dawn, (From "Reality At Dawn", Babuji's book) in the early 50's!

It is difficult in these conditions to completely replace the unsettled climate with a nuclear catastrophe today, without completely disavowing Babuji ...

Divine punishment or human responsibility?

SRCM, (or its adherents) which denies being a religion, borrows all the codes: the world is evil, punishment, and the Apocalypse is coming, SRCM is the solution, that is, the solution for an elite (discussed later).

There remains the problem of human responsibility. Very present at the beginning (of Sahaj Marg), it then disappears into the nature of the Apocalypse. It is therefore a divine punishment which is in question.

So who are we then to worship a God who judges us and who then administers the punishment?
Masochists?

Words have Meaning!

Let us first examine the language: a new race, an elite of souls which will regenerate humanity. The words of "Whispers" have terrible connotations. They remind one of the dark days of racialism and eugenics that raged in the late 19th and first half of the 20th century.

This is far from trivial, because it would have been just as possible to say that mankind had not completed its evolution, that it was at work right now, with the development of new spiritual abilities. This is what the people of Sahaj Marg have already qualified themselves as an involutive evolution towards invertendo or the state of the "transpersonal".

But now, instead of using the scientific language of the theory of evolution or the language of the current transpersonal psychology, Whispers revives eugenics.

A Judeo-Christian Babuji

Man is bad, racing to his ruin, divine retribution is coming, cataclysms will be unleashed, it will be the Apocalypse. But in his great goodness, God will save humanity thanks to a new race which is looming on the horizon and supported by the SRCM ... as he (God) allowed Noah's Ark at the heart of the Flood!

The chosen race can not become integrated because they are different, only in Sahaj Marg is it understood and appreciated, because that is where the way of the future is, the way to reach this new race, perhaps even to join. Sahaj Marg is the solution ...

The whispers of Babuji borrows all its codes from Judaism and Christianity. It re- takes typically and to the letter (verbatim ... word for word), the Judeo-Christian discourse It is not surprising when you consider that the medium is French, a Westerner herself bottle-fed on the Judeo-Christian culture.

Many are called but few are chosen?

An elite will save the world: there are many called but few are chosen, except that many will succeed. Here we are again faced with one of the many contradictions of Sahaj Marg.

The SRCM is a club for the elite. Moreover, these messages are addressed to "members of the brotherhood of man." The road is narrow and full of pitfalls. There are many who are called but few are chosen. In short, you're lucky to be part of this elite as it is not given to everyone, consider yourself happy. You are part of the Club ...

Elitism is an attitude which is essential for all groups so as to strengthen the internal cohesion and to make people who are outside to want to enter. SRCM cultivates very well this elitism with its supposedly unique and unparalleled method! Yes, but by dint of cultivating this sense, it also sends the image of a perfect Master, so far removed from the ordinary abhyasis that it becomes impossible to reach him or even to come close. The risk to Chari is that negative behaviors arise when the face with these difficulties. Or should not the abhyasis throw down their arms, renounce or abandon the game. Hence the concession dropped from time to time: a lot succeed ...

"A vibrational niche appropriate to the subtlety of their ethereal bodies"

Enjoy the beauty of the formula! Add a pinch of indigo children with extra-sensory perceptions, and we are plunged in the heart of the New Age, deep in the occult and Western esotericism.

The (anonymous French lady) medium of Whispers undertook a major dogmatic rewrite of the ideology of Sahaj marg, mixed in some Western New Age, and it seems very appropriate to Chari. I repeat, the words make sense. Between Judeo-Christianity, racialism and New age, the personality of the said medium shows through and becomes clear.

Why did Chari accepted this evolution / revolution of Sahaj marg? What are they trying to do? Achieve a Westernization / globalization of the concept?

The aliens are back!

We had forgotten about them a little, or lost them from sight. But the Babuji of Whispers says clearly that an invasion of aliens, a power foreign to this world, is going to happen.

But then, what about the chosen generation, our "indigo" children? Are they the aliens of which he speaks? Are we already invaded by little green men? Would these invaders be our own indigo children? Or are they collaborators of these invaders? Is this the beginning of the War of the Worlds?

We are swimming rapidly into full science fiction ...

Through anecdotes, and for the record, we note in passing that the pyramids have become relics of interplanetary relay-stations. Were the pharaohs the aliens? The Egyptians who built their tombs, were they equally little green men?

Beyond the Medium of Whisper's already mentinned many qualities, let us add that she is totally ignorant ...

The New World

The New World which Whispers promises will be completely different. It will be cleansed, strengthened and enlightened. It will match the standards set (by whom?), and will have a new structure that is emerging in letters of gold, out of the reach of our understanding. It will protect the universal balance, thanks to a prodigious knowledge.

It's a little light! The imagination of our dear medium leaves much to be desired. It is never as good as when it comes to criticizing our world of today. But when it comes to speaking of the future world, it is of minimum service: it will be different, incomprehensible ... but it will correspond to "set standards". Phew, we are assured! But what are these standards? Mystery ...

Our ignorant medium has decidedly very little imagination ...

Every man for himself: there is no time to waste, time does not exist

"A new cycle begins with this century. In a quarter century, the earth will experience great turmoil. " Thus, according to Whispers, the 21st century marks the beginning of the process "punishment-Apocalypse-New World". In 25 years, the turmoil at the beginning of the Apocalypse?

Remember that in the 50's, the Babuji from before the Brighter World had already announced the start of the turmoil, the shift of the poles, etc..

But it is even more complicated for what follows, much more imprecise: the elite race, already present among us, will emerge "after a long time." And the new world will exist only "in future centuries," knowing that this "is not for tomorrow, it is a distant future" and that to top it all, "these prophecies are not for our time ".

The explanation emerges later: "All is fleeting here below. In the world, the notion of time does not exist. " Yet in the Babuji of the Brighter World repeats endlessly, there is no time to lose ...

Long live the contradictions! One thing is certain, the Apocalypse is not for the 21.12.2012! Phew, we are partly reassured ...

Laboratory mice in the hands of a mad scientist

"There is no time to lose", and yet it is "inevitable, irreversible and programmed! "

Throughout the pages, Whispers says one thing: react now while there is still time because you can not do anything any more ...

Certainly the Whispers medium plays with the nerves of the abhyasis and mocks what is left of their intelligence. Unless this is so as to definitively desensitize the last neural connections that remain.

And it continues! Chari erected Whispers as the Bible of Sahaj Marg, the Babuji from the Brighter World urges us to read his prophecies to prepare us, but adds that "these prophecies do not concern us" ...

"The new world will correspond to the standards set," so do not worry, it has everything, it's all decided, and all programmed.

What is finally confirmed for us, one single and small time, in a turn of a phrase: "This planet is somewhat experimental, subject to many tests. "

Do you finally understand? We (you?) are puppets, marionettes with invisible strings that some pull in all directions! We're finally back to our humble condition of laboratory mice in the hands of a mad scientist named Babuji ...

Sahaj Marg(tm) and Whispers: Between a State of Emergency and Eternity!

2011-12-11T09:05:00.017-08:00

Taken and translated from a comment by Alexis (see comments) on Elodie's blog in Europe: Pour Que Vive Le Sahaj Marg

Insertions and comments by 4d-Don are in "red italics".

The Sahaj Marg abhyasis are no more than laboratory mice in the deviant experiment of another religious "mad scientist" toying with the "disempowered" and the gullible few, who are waiting and praying to be saved by THEM!! (from the mythic "Institute of "THEY")... such are the: aliens, spirits, saints from the past, deceased gurus, long-dead messiahs, saviours, etc...) .

Or, they are puppets in the hands of some imagined puppeteers, some "entities from the Brighter World" . This according to an anonymous, self-appointed French lady MEDIUM, sanctionned by the dead-guru's, self-appointed successor. Successor to the Guru who before dying, replaced Chari (as secretary) because of "lack of tingling" in the heart. (LOVE??)

Such is religion and their mechanism ... FEAR and TEMPTATION ...

Sahaj Marg is not Raja Yoga ... seriously!! Nor is it "divine"!!

Between a State of Emergency and Eternity, Determinism and Free Will

Whispers: decryption (5)

Series of Quotes from Whispers from the Brighter World, as channeled by an anonymous French lady Medium.

Chari calls this their "Bible". Then, he stated that there would be such "whispers" for 12 more years ... (a major fund-raiser for SRCM(California-1997). Also, according to Chari, reading these "whispers" over and over (8 times or so), "may" erase samskaras. Seriously now!! How gullible can some be!! All this from a "just" (and male) God??

"A new cycle begins with the century, marking humanity. (...) We are all working here to set up structures to suit the distant future (...). "
(21/12/2000) -

" This time is not for tomorrow. The earth will experience great changes before we get there. These prophecies do not concern you. You suffer the harm of these insidious pollutions that will lead the world to ruin, but you can not stop time nor change the system. "
(29.12.2000) -

" These predictions should not worry nor embarrass you. They do not concern this time and there will passs much (time?) before everything we propose will come to pass. "
(02/25/01) -

" In a quarter century, the earth will experience great turmoil. (...) Man, paying the gross errors of his ancestors, will suffer without being able to control the situation. "
(28/02/01) -

" The changes without name will occur to clean up this world, leaving a long time to emerge finally the chosen race, capable of establishing a new world corresponding to the expected standards. "
(10/11 / 03) -

"A new world and completely different from what you currently live, will exist in future centuries." (03/11/01) -

"There is no time to lose. "
(05/12/03) -

" Everything evolves and changes in the universe, where the notion of time does not exist (...). "
(17/01/04) -

" May the people come to their senses while there is still time. "
(12/28/03) -

" (...) time is running out, humanity is in danger in many ways. "
(7/1/04) -

" (...) the inevitable happens. "
(11/09/04) -

" All is fleeting here below (...) this planet is somewhat experimental, subject to many tests on various components. "
(29/09/04) -

" The movement is irreversible (...) "
(09/10/04) -"

"Thus is it programmed! "
(23/10/04)

Every man for himself: there is no time to waste, time does not exist

"A new cycle begins with the century. In a quarter century, the earth will experience a great turmoil. " Thus, according to Whispers, the 21st century marks the beginning of the process "punishment-Apocalypse-New World". In 25 years, the turmoil at the beginning of the Apocalypse?

Remember that in the 50's, the pre-Brighter World Babuji had already announced the start of the turmoil, the shift of the poles, etc..

But it is even more complicated for the future, much more imprecise: the chosen race, already present among us will emerge "after a long time." And the new world will exist only "in future centuries," knowing that this "is not for tomorrow but is the distant future" and that fills things, "these prophecies do not concern our time ".

The explanation arises then: "All is fleeting here below. In the world, the notion of time does not exist. " Yet the Babuji from the Brighter World keeps repeating endlessly that there is no time to lose ...

Long live the contradictions! One thing is certain, the Apocalypse is not for the 21.12.2012! Phew, we are partly reassured ...

Laboratory mice in the hands of a mad scientist

"There is no time to lose", and yet it is "inevitable, irreversible and programmed! "

Throughout the pages, Whispers repeats one thing: react while there is still time because you can not do anything about it ...

Certainly the medium of Whispers plays with the nerves of the abhyasis and mocks what is left of their intelligence. Unless this is definitely so as to numb the last neural connections which remain.

And it continues! Chari has erected Whispers as the Bible of Sahaj Marg, the Babuji from the Brighter World urges us to read his prophecies to prepare us, but adds that "these prophecies do not concern us" ...

"The new world will correspond to the standards set," so do not worry, he has considered everything, decided everything, programmed everything.

Which he finally confirms in one single, small time, in the turn of a phrase: "This planet is somewhat experimental, subject to many tests. "

Do you finally understand? We are puppets, puppets which some invisible entity pulls in all directions! We're finally back to our humble condition of laboratory mice in the hands of a mad scientist named Babuji ...

Alexis

Elodie Said:

Hello everyone,

I do not know if this is the final part of the decryption of Whispers by Alexis, but I would have to thank him for the tremendous work he has done. This does not change my overall impression, but it has all the elements husked one after the other and text analysis shows each time a little more the importance of brainwashing is to work with this book at the moment. It's appalling.

I remember this picture of abhyasis, laboratory mice, delivered into the hands of a mad scientist, whether Babuji, Chari or medium, the spirit to lobotomize.

Much love,

Elodie

Sunday, December 11, 2011

See also:

Sahaj Marg and Whispers (1) : The New Ideology of Sahaj Marg
Sahaj Marg and Whispers (2): Decryption-Apocalypse
Sahaj Marg and Whispers (3): A New Race
Sahaj Marg and Whispers (4): What Will Tomorrow Bring?

Chari Has Problems With Sex!!

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Sahaj Marg(tm) and Whispers: What Will Tomorrow Bring?

2011-12-04T10:29:00.015-08:00

Taken and Translated from a comment by Alexis on Elodie's blog in Europe: Pour Que Vive Le Sahaj Marg.

Inserts and additions by 4d-don are in "red italics"

The aliens are back!! The aliens are back!!

Same old FEAR and TEMPTATION mechanism used by religions since the beginning of recorded historical or mythic time, and by its "priests", their prophets and Mediums: the story-tellers, the word-charmers, the inventors and merchants of the opiates of fantasies.

Since man witnessed forces in Nature, (s)he mystified and pesonified them, naming them gods, demons, spirits, egregores, etc... and then finally, a monotheistic "GOD" and ITS negative counter-part, the "DEVIL", the personification of "evil" ... Most religions are not "mono" at all, but are in reality, dualities ... not UNITY or ONE !!

Sahaj Marg(tm) is not very unique at all ... just another dual religion with aliens, spirits, heaven (brighter world), and a hell of "re-incarnations" ...

...surrounded by "THEM", the eternally divisive and warring religious flakes and fluff!! "By their fruit, one will know them!"

What Will Tomorrow Bring?

Whispers: decryption (4)

Mankind races to its ruin, divine punishment comes, it will be the Apocalypse. But a new breed supported by the SRCM emerges and will save the world ...

About, "... of what will tomorrow be made?" The Sahaj Marg (tm) answer is:
(Quotes from Whispers From the Brighter World, as channeled by an anonymous French Lady Medium)

"A new cycle begins with this century, which will mark humanity. After much turmoil, the darkness will give way to light for many. We are all working here to set up structures to suit the distant future, but that is already being written in letters of gold. " (21.12.2000) -

" The history of the earth is very old and very rich. It (she?) has known advanced civilizations. Aliens (extraterrestrials), as you call them, came to implement exploration sites and build interplanetary relays. Some still exist, although they don't have their origianl usefulness any more. The pyramids are among them. (...) A very important invasion will occur (...). These beings will bring tremendous expertise that will leave stupefied the poor earthlings, with their great ideas on everything, which are, in large part, false or null. These beings come to protect the universal balance from the actions of men and from the huge risks they take with their so-called progress, alarming for several reasons. " (4/3/01) -

" A new world and one completely different from what you currently live, will exist in future centuries. (...) A new world is being prepared. You cannot imagine. It is out of the range of your understanding. (...) If there are some vestiges left of your civilization, perhaps it will be studied with curiosity. This is so since the beginning of time. Everything evolves and renews itself. " (11/03/01) -

" It's a vicious cycle that will never end and will, sooner or later be stopped by a power foreign to this planet which will have no other means to stop this dangerous escalation, harmful to the universal equilibrium. The lower instincts of human nature are difficult to counter. The strong method (heavy-handed method?) will have to be imposed one day (...). " (13/09/01) -

" Upheavals without name must occur so as to clean up this world, a long enough time, leaving finally emerge the chosen race, capable of establishing a new world corresponding to the expected standards. " (10/11/03) -

" Let us work for this evolution, time is running out, humanity is in danger in many ways. What emerges from this cesspool will be strengthened and enlightened. " (07/01/04)

Let us Summarize!

We must clean up this world, what emerges from the sesspool will be strengthened and enlightened. The darkness will give way to light. After a long enough time will finally emerge the chosen race: a very large invasion will occur, a power foreign to this world, what you call aliens (extraterrestrials?) , will bring tremendous expertise to protect the universal balance and will make a new world, completely different and out of reach for your understanding.

The aliens are back!

W e had forgotten them a little, lost sight of them. But the Babuji from Whispers says much about an invasion of aliens, a power foreign to this world is going to happen.

But then, what about the chosen generation, our "indigo children"? Are these the aliens about which he speaks? Are we already invaded by little green men? Could these invaders be our own children indigo? Or are they collaborators of our invaders? Is this the beginning of the war of the worlds?

It swims rapidly into science fiction ...

For the record (anecdote?), we note in passing that the pyramids have become relics of (some) interplanetary relay. The pharaohs were then aliens? The Egyptians who built their tombs, were they equally little green men?

Beyond the immense qualities already mentioned by the medium of Whispers, let us add that she is totally ignorant (according to her own "messages") ...

The New World

The New World which promises Whispers will be completely different. It will be cleaned, strengthened and enlightened. It will match the standards set, and will be a new structure that is emerging in letters of gold, out of the reach of our understanding. It will protect the universal balance, with a prodigious knowledge.

It's a little light (fluffy? flakey?) ! The imagination of our dear medium leaves a lot to be desired. She is never as good as when it comes to criticizing our world of today. But when it comes to speaking of the future world, it is the minimum service: it will be different, incomprehensible ... but it will correspond to "set standards". Phew, we are assured! But what are these standards? Mystery ...

Our uncultivated medium definitely does not have much imagination ...

Alexis

Saturday, December 3, 2011

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See also:

Sahaj Marg(tm) and Whispers: A new RACE!!
Sahaj Marg(tm) and Whispers: Decryption
Whispers, the New Ideology of Sahaj Marg(tm)
At Sahaj Marg, You Children Belong to the Mission
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Chari of Sahaj Marg(tm) Has a Problem with Sex!!

2011-12-03T11:16:00.009-08:00

Taken and translated from an article by Elodie: "Chari has a Problem with Sex" on her blog in Europe: Pour Que Vive Le Sahaj Marg

December 3, 2011

Chari has a problem with sex

VRAD Sande (Denmark) is the first European Retreat Center of the SRCM and the fourth in the world. Indeed, there already existed two in India and one in the United States.

These retreat centers have been established at the initiative of Chari for a person to be able withdraw in solitude and introspection to meditate for a period of 3 to 30 days.

One therefore understands the prohibition of children attending; one already understands a little less his suggestion that husbands and wives come separately. But that it comes to reserving a month for women and another for men, what can one say? Alexis has already indicated it, I think.

If one believes Chari, the SRCM centers are meeting places where abhyasis (lovers?) pretend to come and to collect themselves, so as to flirt, or is he fixated on sexuality?

After the racism, homophobia and nationalism of Chari denounced by 4d-Don, it seems we can add sexism to the list.

One really has to have a twisted mind, to be a pervert or a sex maniac, so as to imagine that the coexistence of both genders prevents as much one's introspection as the presence of one's children and even more than the cell phone ringtones.

Chari has a real problem with sex.

Elodie

Alexis said:

(see here for french version)

@ Elodie

Be careful, you are contradicting here and sexism is misused. What you denounce is an obsessive attitude vis-à-vis sexuality, not sexism ...

In his speech, Chari does show a double obsession, vis-à-vis sexuality and money, which deserves a psychoanalytic analysis. In my humble opinion (as a Monday morning psychoanalyst), I would say that there is a poorly repressed desire, at least one morbid jealousy. He is fascinated by easy money and big fortunes, he hides a latent homosexuality or poorly-controlled sexual desires or even a shameful bisexual libido ...

Spirituality has never prevented sexual desires, as the life of Gandhi has clearly demonstrated. Power release all repressed instincts, as our French politician DSK has recently reminded us. And Chari combines the two attributes of power and spirituality!

Not to mention all the rumors circulating since the death of his wife Sulochana ...

However, the attitude of Chari and the SRCM is sexist too! On the one hand by refraining from ever having a female Master ( a Mistress??) of Sahaj Marg, on the other in the discourse on the role of mothers ...

He (Chari) is sexist and obsessed, then!

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Sahaj Marg(tm) and Whispers: A new RACE!!

2011-11-28T09:22:00.012-08:00

Taken and translated from a comment by Alexis on Élodie's blog in Europe: Pour Que Vive Le Sahaj Marg.

Inserts and additions by 4d-don are in "red italics"

READ if you dare:

Take your pick. Sahaj Marg has come from "a modified Raja Yoga" (starting at step #7 of the "eighfold path"), to a usurped SUFISM (Lalaji), and now with Chari's Spiritualism, to interventions by either: Aliens(extra-terrestrials), egregores, spirits, New Age agents, Indigo Children, an ELITE, God and the Natural Laws, etc..etc.. etc... (as merrily we go along)

Sahaj Marg is one not-so "unique" APOCALYPTIC MESS!! Or Sahaj Marg(tm) is everything to everyone ... or NOTHING unique or special to ALL ... same old, same old !!

The solution: A New Race of Individuals

Whispers: Decryption (3)

Mankind races to its ruin, divine punishment is coming, it will be the Apocalypse. But a new race (a Master Race??) is on the horizon ...

(Quotes from Whispers From The Brighter World, Sahaj Marg (tm)'s Bible, according to Chari, as channeled by an anonymous French Lady Medium)

"Another race, more resistant and with a strong sense of extrasensory perception, will establish a world that would surprise most men now living. " (02/25/01) -

" A new race of individuals, characterized by a wider perceptions that this one, will open itself to spaces of knowledge much more advanced. There are already legions of them on earth, this gifted precursor race, which will help shatter the intellectual rigor, slowing the evolution of the beings of this world. " (31/10/03)

" Upheavals without name will occur and will have to be produced to clean up this world, leaving a long enough time to emerge finally the chosen (elite?) race, capable of establishing a new world corresponding to the expected standards. (...) A new race is at work (...). " (10/11/03)

" The Received Messages constitute by themselves alone, the single teachings suitable for the elite souls emerging in these times of the advent of a new era. They will be understood, appreciated, and they will become, in our path, a reference point. Minds (spirits?), more and more will open to a reality somewhat surpassing also (by) a little, that of our brothers presently. The future times are being prepared and we will not be left behind. The souls incarnated in this view (optics?) , will seek a teaching which suits them in all respects. Those whom you call the Indigo children will not accomodate outdated concepts. They seek a vibrational niche suitable to the subtlety of their ethereal bodies. Many of these people already live in this world. They struggle to integrate into existing systems, for them devoid of interest most of the time. They arrive at a pivotal time in the history of the world and are different, hence often misunderstood, like everything that can be distinguished from the multitude. These people will gather and unite to recreate an environment which will give them satisfaction. They are pacifists, spiritually evolved, they will go to the point, of course, without hesitation, wisdom, for the most part is innate. A time will come when the number of these people will grow to form an elite regenerating humanity and guiding the less fortunate. Everything is written and wanted thusly. May all be blessed! " (30/06/04)

" As the great sage may address his disciple and give a glimpse of where the treasure is hidden. "Many are called but few are chosen", say the Scriptures. The road is arid, only the strong and determined souls succeed. Sahaj Marg is a path, a means offered for humans who are interested and able to seize the opportunity offered to them, to move forward on this narrow path full of pitfalls. Many succeed. Has it not been given to the world to respond to a profound call characteristic of the times which are being prepared, with a view on a radical transformation? We will be more than ever at the heart of this vast movement, carrier of hope and liberation of a humanity, which is as a prey in the throes of evil. " (30/07/04)

Let us Summarize, paraphrase!

All is not lost. An elite group composed of gifted souls is already at work. Members of the new chosen people on earth are already legion. They are more resistant and they have larger ESP. They are different, so often misunderstood. They are struggling to integrate.

They do not adapt to outdated concepts, they will open up a space for more advanced knowledge, because they have the innate wisdom. They seek a niche suitable for subtle vibration of their ethereal bodies. They are pacifists and spiritually evolved. They help to break the rigor of the intellectual environment. They will unite to form an elite that will regenerate humanity, because they are able to establish a new world. Surprising!

They will become a reference point for all those who follow the path of Sahaj Marg, where they will be understood and appreciated. For Sahaj Marg is at the heart of this movement of hope and liberation. It offers a way for humans to move forward on this narrow road full of pitfalls, where many are called but few are chosen.

"Everything is written and wanted thusly".

Words have meaning!

Let us first stop and examine the language: a new race, an elite of souls will regenerate humanity. The words of whispers are terribly connotations. They recall the dark days of racism and eugenics that have raged in the late 19th and first half of the 20th century.

This is far from trivial, because it would have been possible just as well to say that mankind had not completed its evolution, that it was at work right now, with the development of new spiritual abilities. What the people of Sahaj Marg have already qualified themselves as involutive evolution towards the state invertendo or transpersonal.

But now, instead of using the scientific language of the theory of evolution or the language of the current transpersonal psychology, whispers revives eugenics.

Babuji Judeo-Christian

Man is evil, he runs to his ruin, divine retribution comes, and will unleash cataclysms, it will be the Apocalypse. But in his great goodness, God will save humanity with the new race supported by the SRCM looming on the horizon ... as he allowed Noah's Ark at the heart of the Flood!

The chosen race can not be integrated because they are different, only in Sahaj Marg is it understood and appreciated, because that is where the way of the future is, the way to reach this new race, perhaps even to join. Sahaj Marg is the solution. The Whispers of Babuji borrows all its codes from Judaism and Christianity. It adheres typically to the letter, the Judeo-Christian discourse. It is not surprising when you consider that the medium is French, a Westerner herself nursed from the bottle of a Judeo-Christian culture.

Many are called but few are chosen?

An elite will save the world: there are many called but few are chosen, except that many will succeed. Here we are again faced with one of the many contradictions of Sahaj Marg.

The SRCM is a private club reserved for the elite. Moreover, these messages are addressed to "Members of the brotherhood of man." The road is narrow and full of pitfalls. There are many who are called but few who are chosen. In short, you're lucky to be part of this elite which is not given to everyone, you should feel happy. You are part of the Club ...

Elitism is an attitude which is essential for all groups so as to strengthen the internal cohesion and to make people who are outside want to enter. SRCM cultivates very well with this elitism with its supposedly unique and unparalleled method! Yes, but thanks to the cultivating this sense, it also returns the image of a perfect Master, so far removed from the ordinary abhyasis that it becomes impossible to reach or even to come close. The risk for Chari is that negative behaviors arise when faced with difficulties. The abhyasis should not throw down their arms, renounce or abandon the game. Hence the concession dropped from time to time: a lot succeed ...

"A vibrational niche appropriate to the subtlety of their ethereal bodies"

Enjoy the beauty of the formula! Add a pinch of indigo children to extra-sensory perceptions, and we are plunged in the heart of New Age, deep in the occult and Western esotericism.

The medium of whispers undertook a major rewrite of the dogmatic ideology of Sahaj marg, mixed in Western new age, and it seems very appropriate to Chari. I repeat, the words make sense. Between Judeo-Christianity, racialism (eugenics) and the New age, the personality of the so-called medium re-appears in the reflected lights.

Why does Chari accept this evolution / revolution of Sahaj marg? What are they trying to do? Achieve a Westernization / globalization of the concept?

Sunday, November 27, 2011

See also:

Sahaj Marg(tm) and Whispers: Decryption

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Sahaj Marg(tm) and Whispers: Decryption

2011-11-16T09:25:00.021-08:00

Taken and translated from comments by Alexis (see here) on Elodie's blog in Europe: Pour Que Vive Le Sahaj Marg.

Insertions by 4d-Don are in "red italics"

Read here to see the Sahaj Marg(tm) spiritualist contradictions from beyond the grave... not by a spiritual Master, but by an anonymous French lady MEDIUM ... This, they call their "Bible" and they pay for it by buying a book of these "whispers" every year... one per year for another 12 years according to Chari. The requested "donation"? $150.00 - $250.00 US dollars per book. Where are the "ghost busters" ??

As Sahaj Marg(tm)'s President (Chari) rants against the evils of materialism and the excesses of the abhyasis and of other "infidels", they themselves indulge in the excesses of cancerous growth for their opulent Mission and their own "businesses". And, their imperialist (evangelical) "carbon footprint" is larger than many corporations ... But not to worry, the "ALIENS" (see below) or the "indigo children" will save them (not us??). That is if God does not first intercede directly with "His" (male) natural laws !!

(see below the bolded "satanic plans" and the "alien... power" quotes from WHISPERS attributed to Babuji from the invented "central region" of their fantasy "Brighter World" ... as told by their anonymous French lady Medium)

Is this what is called: "demonizing" your fellow humans, as well as your technocrat children"? Then, with the other side of their spiritualist face, they pretend (imagine?) and dare to call them (and us?) "brothers and sisters"? Is this the "light" or the "LOVE", which Sahaj Marg(tm) transmits to the world? Is this an example of the "HEART", what is in reality a pump, doing the thinking? .. . or, in this case, not "thinking" at all, as it (the heart) can't think? The heart simply pumps. Is this also an example of not using the "brain", which in Sahaj Marg(tm), is busy contacting and communing with "the spirits" of the dead and/or the psychic "egregores", or is busy "demonizing", and certainly not loving or unifying anything??

Are you intelligent guys and gals seriously believing this hate-filled "fiction"?? Whom do you serve in reality??

Are you still defending this so-called "spiritual" (but in reality "spiritualist), practice as something good for US??

Merry Christmas to them too!! As they divide families and societies at their HOLY TIME and anytime !!

May they point at their own STUPIDITY, for a CHANGE!!

Alexis said ...

Whispers: Decryption

Much has been said of "Whispers from the Brighter World". Almost everything has been said about its commercial exploitation. The wildest conjectures have been made on his or her alleged perpetrators.

Now we attach ourselves to its content. It is now six years since the abhyasis began to imbibe daily this New Bible of Sahaj Marg, as described by Chari. It's time to decipher and analyze the content, to know what the SRCM implants in its followers and to better understand the spiritual ideology of Sahaj Marg.

First step in the series:

Man and his punishment

Man races to his ruin, he must pay ... (Below are a series of quotes from "Whispers from the Brighter World", channeled by an anonymous French lady Medium (AFLM))

"(...) mankind is playing with fire, without realizing the adverse consequences for humanity." (29.12.2000) -

" The time of punishment for such arrogance will be manifest in all its power and man, paying for the gross errors of his ancestors, will suffer without being able to control the situation." (28/02/01) -

" Men end up falling into the wildest excesses, then it must be remedied." (11/03/01) -

" Where will stop the cruelty of men? (...) It can go into adulthood, to the excesses that we recognize today and which stem from the collective madness. These acts are served by a high technology, which allows them to develop satanic plans. Everything is good to assuage the hatred and the spirit of revenge that inhabits them. It's a vicious cycle that has no end and will, sooner or later be stopped by a power alien to this planet who (or which, the planet or the people on the planet) will have no other means to stop this dangerous escalation, harmful to the universal equilibrium. The lower instincts of human nature are difficult to counter. The method of power (heavy handed method?) will have to prevail one day (...). "(13/09/01) -

" This planet is arriving at a crucial point where everything has to change regarding the behavior of men, many of which seem to have lost their mind. Humanity is in danger in more ways than one. God, for a majority, remaining for them an abstraction, they consider themselves to be masters of the world, allowed to put it at risk at any price. (...) May the people come to their senses while there is still time." (12/28/03) -

" Let us work for this evolution, time is running out, humanity is in danger in many ways. What emerges from this cesspool will be strengthened and enlightened. " (7/1/04) -

" This civilization is destructive, nothing seems to be able to stop it in this world, divine laws, and they alone, will be able to remedy. " (7/3/04) -

" This civilization is going too far in its prerogatives and endangers an entire balance, regardless of the consequences. (...) May humanity react in time so as to limit the destructive phenomenon! " (15/07/04) -

"Humanity is living dangerously, ignoring the warnings given to it. A reality check would be needed here too, but a consumer frenzy has seized mankind, ignoring any and all warnings on the subject. Everything in modern civilization is contributing to its perdition; the cries of alarm from the experts, not having been heard while there was still time, the inevitable will happen. Respect for nature, of life in all its forms is a concept that man for too long has neglected. He must face the consequences. God's laws are inflexible: they operate on their own, also." (11/09/04) -

"The movement is irreversible; nothing will stop the frenzy down here to pollute and destroy under the pretext of modernizing and producing on a large scale. Sooner or later, the errors must be paid; this civilization goes much too far into excess. A brutal brake (stop?) will be put on this destructive system, it is in the order of things. " (10/09/04) -

" This civilization has reached such an imbalance, unprecedented in the history of this world, that we owe it to ourselves to warn our brothers about their misdeeds, going well beyond pollution in all its forms."(11/03/04)

To Summarize! The picture is clear.

Humanity and this civilization are a filthy cesspool! Man is playing with fire and is engaged in the greatest of excesses. His behavior, dictated by the lowest instincts of human nature, hatred and the spirit of revenge, is destructive. This behavior will have serious consequences: in its collective madness, man develops satanic plans. Its frenzy to consume, pollute and destroy, puts the world is at risk of a dangerous escalation. We have arrived at a crucial point where everything conspires to ruin, the danger is great, everything must change ...

In its arrogance and imbalance, man has lost his mind, he acts as the master of the world. He will bear the consequences, he must pay for his mistakes. A brutal stop (brake?) will be placed on his activities, he must be stopped, the hard (heavy-handed?) way. A mutation is preparing itself for this world if it wants to survive, it must be completely revised ...

So far, everything is perfectly clear! But the message is blurred and becomes more confused then ...
On the one hand it must be stopped by a power, alien to this planet. On the other hand he must pay for his mistakes, and God's laws only can remedy. Divine punishment or alien invasion? The blur begins ...

Man has lost his mind

It is amusing to note that Whispers says that man has lost his mind, while Chari inversely repeats, that we have to stop thinking and open our hearts. Remaining in the sphere of the mind is to deny the spirituality that is the voice of the heart ...

In popular parlance, the heart is the emotions, the head is the reason. And Whispers tells us that things are not right because man has lost his mind. Like love, the lowest instincts, such as hatred, revenge, etc.. are indeed emotions, emanations of the heart. There are some positive, others negative. But Chari has never said that one had to listen only to the positive emotions from one's heart, he said one must listen to one's heart, that's it!

Man has listened to his heart, he has lost his mind but has not thusly won spirituality. And now, nothing works, we must change everything. Man must find reason, then reconnect with the sphere of the mind. But we must also grow spiritually. So how?

A contradiction again, who can understand, this is not the last ...

Danger, the punishment is coming!

Whispers exploits fears. Since the end of the glorious 30's, and the first oil crisis, our world has gone from crisis to crisis. The year 2011 is the year of disasters: climate, nuclear, economic, financial and social, etc.. The world is in constant crisis. Whispers benefits by riding the wave of a declining environment. We are just around the corner from the Apocalypse (I will return to this topic later ) ...

Mankind must pay for its mistakes, it is the divine punishment. It is close to the Judeo-Christian imaginary, where, irritated by humans, God unleashed the flood.

Does Whispers want to make us believe in the vengeance of a cruel God? And the SRCM is Noah's Ark?

A vengeful and cruel God. Is this the image of God in the spiritual Sahaj Marg way?

Alexis

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Whispers, The New Ideology of Sahaj Marg

2011-11-15T12:45:00.005-08:00

Taken and translated from an article by Elodie: "Whispers, Nouvelle Idéologie du Sahaj Marg", on her blog in Europe: Pour Que Vive Le Sahaj Marg

November 15, 2011

Whispers, The New Ideology of Sahaj Marg?

A third debate

Alexis opens a new series of reflections on the content of Whispers. Rather than reproduce his messages, I propose to discuss it.

You can find and read through the links below:

Whispers: decryption
* Part 1 (French): Mankind rushes towards its ruin, he must pay
* Other Components: I will publish here the links as they appear

A must read (and reread also) so as to properly reflect about:

* The dark side of Sahaj Marg
* Label Whispers (Google Whispers)

While Alexis opens this new series, I realize that Whispers crystallizes my biggest disappointment vis-à-vis the SRCM of Chari and Sahaj Marg. My disappointment, but also my indignation and my anger, my cries of rage.

I overcame my inhibitions and created this blog in January, 2006 because of the commercial exploitation of Whispers by Chari and the Mission. When, much later, I lost my last illusions about Chari, it was still about Whispers, because of the content of the messages of the so-called medium of Babuji.

Before, and for a long time, I spent the towel on (whitewashed?) so much. I was sometimes offended by certain words or certain acts, but it seemed a necessary evil, almost insignificant in such a large organization. Inevitably there must have been some black sheep, the structure would inevitably generate some slag.

Without the excesses brought about by Whispers, I think I would have finally continued to whitewash everything. For me it was the trigger, the last straw. But then, Whispers exceeded all the vertices of the excess and madness that reigns within the SRCM, there are no limits. Since 2006, this drop of water was gradually transformed itself into a stream, and into a river and an ocean as a result of the oft-repeated so-called messages of Babuji.

If Chari's SRCMtm only swears by their Bible, Whispers, Sister Kasturi told Shashwat Pandey on February 20, 2009 that she objected to the release of Whispers which she considers harmful, because they peddle incorrect messages. I remind you that Babuji called her (Sister Kasturi) "the saint of Sahaj Marg". He was then alive and in full mental health.

Shashwat :

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I have one more question, recently there is a book published by Sahaj Marg, called "Whispers From the Brighter World", which is said to contain messages from Lalaji and Babuji, and these messages are sold at a price of 250 euro’s which is approximately 12,000, Indian rupees, kindly throw some light on this as to what is this brighter world and what are these messages from the "brighter world".

Kasturiji : I have written the truth about these things in my book, because I know, that these things are going to be very harmful for the mission in future, this will not convey the correct message, you tell me one thing, did Chariji hear the name of “brighter world” during Babuji’s time, or before him or after him?

Shashwat : (pause) you are correct.

Kasturiji : (where) ever did he heard this name?

Shashwat : you are correct, this all started since 2005 onwards.

Kasturiji : even Chariji, he also use to do worship before, many big names use to visit him, did he ever hear this name “brighter world” (laughs..) and then there are messages from this place!! I will tell you the truth, and I have cleared this in my book, whenever someone is asked to come down to earth for some work, suppose Babuji was asked to come to earth for spirituality, there are some personalities who know before hand, that this divine personality will come down to work, such personalities leave their pleasure and allow themselves to protect that divine personality like a bodyguard, like lord Shankar, Narad Muni, and many others, whenever such personalities come down, they all are ready to serve such a personality, these are people who stay back after leaving earth, and they get the job done, they will inform, like you need to do this, you did a good job, but you need to do this also, and there is nothing of this kind in Chariji’s diary, I have read that diary.. it only contains information like, he is praising him, she is praising that fellow.. like this.. if there is expression of any kind of relation, than it is totally false, because relation are that place when spirituality ends, there are no relation for such people, all relations are part of earth, and they and they are left behind in this world only, when you leave this world then only divine bliss exists, and there are no relations there.. and in Chariji’s diary, all it contains is relations… I have not written his name because he is head of our mission currently, I have not taken any name, but I have answered everything, so that people can come to know the truth.

Am I the only one with Sister Kasturi, to believe that the ideology brought by Whispers is particularly harmful (noxious)? Am I the only one to believe that with Whispers, Chari's SRCM has attained some until now never accessed peaks of excess and madness?

I propose to all to discuss it here.

Obviously, the other debates remain open. Thank you for participating, it will not work without you.

Elodie

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At Sahaj Marg(tm): Your Children Belong to the Mission

2011-11-08T12:42:00.012-08:00

Taken from an article by Elodie: "Vos Enfants Appartiennent à la Mission" on her blog in Europe: Pour Que Vive Le Sahaj Marg

Insertions and additions by 4d-don are in "red italics"

In the west, we teach our children. As the song goes: "Teach Your Children Well"... Chari and his Sahaj Marg(tm) want the children of abhyasis, which are now called the children of the Master or the Mission, to be "trained" or "formatted" ... as one would a pet or a slave (serf) or a piece of machinery (computer) !! Sahaj Marg is like a loop back to the feudal 12th century !

November 8, 2011

Your children belong to the Mission

In one of Chari's last speeches, "Material Life is the Vehicle to Spirituality" (September 25, 2011, Garden of Hearts, Chennai), he returns to the fate reserved for the children of abhyasis:

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" I am happy to see a happy group of people around me, a lot of children. I hope you are training them properly because what we have as the first generation of abhyasis was not quite well disciplined because, of course, they were the ragtag of a population which had no discipline at all, and Babuji made what he could out of them. But at least in one function they have not disappointed us, in that they have produced a lot of children who we hope will be the second generation, if not the third generation of abhyasis."

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"I would like to emphasise the need to train your children properly, especially mothers, because I see many of them in the ashram instigating their children to run around, to shout, to come to me when I am on my walk. That is not the way to train children. Children should be trained to be disciplined, to be seen and not heard, to study well. Because all of you who are parents know, these are your children but more especially my Master's children. They belong to the Mission. You have been in the Mission. The Mission has helped you to grow, to exist happily, comfortably, in protected surroundings like this, so that you have a responsibility to the parampara of Sahaj Marg, the hierarchy, to feed future generations of Sahaj Marg with well-prepared, well-conceived children into this, I don't know, twenty-seven thousandth generation if that is the plan of divinity."

"So, first of all, to train your children you must train yourself. Indisciplined parents can never have disciplined children."

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"So don't forget, you are here to train yourself, to equip yourself to get into the Brighter World when your turn comes, when your time comes – may it be long in the future, but your greater responsibility is to the Mission."

(…)

This speaks for itself. "These are your children, but more so the children of MY MASTER. They belong to the Mission. " According to Whispers (Messages from the spirit of deceased Babuji (1983), received through an Anonymous French Lady Medium), these children are the future of the Mission, the world's future. They are the vanguard of the chosen race, the "indigo children". They will go through their LMOIS school, (Lalaji Memorial Omega International School) to be formatted by the VBSE (Value-Based Spiritual Education) of Chari, before becoming good little soldiers in the disciplined battalions of Sahaj Marg (tm).

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Alexis said:

@ Elodie

Well done! Remember that the Garden of Hearts is a set of apartments facing the Babuji Memorial Ashram, originally built for and by abhyasis who wanted to be closer to Chari ... (or to sell to make "MONEY" ... Spiritualist Capitalism?)

Your children belong to the Mission, you need discipline! Chari and his pharmacist from Brooklyn are preparing their troops ...

Vincent (see his French blog here) is going to be happy for his grandchildren ...

Alexis

Elodie said:

Hello Vincent,

I myself have a niece who has gone to Chari's school this year. This is the only daughter of my brother, she is twelve years old only. My sister in law went with her in late June to her new school. She stayed there with her for three months and came back shortly after this speech of Chari. I imagine that his speech was directed especially at her, as other mothers who left their children for one year and could not part with them. From what I understand, the children will be back in early May for two short months of vacation.

My sister-in-law is a true fanatic of Sahaj Marg, but she still returned back home torn. I'm not talking about my brother who was unable to accompany them to India because of his work, he just made the round trip on the anniversary of Chari and saw his daughter a few hours. They will see her again once more before May.

October was a martyrdom, at the beginning my niece was crying in front of the webcam. My brother, a strapping man ten years my senior, broke down several times in front of us and now he takes refuge in his work. My sister-in-law, who does not work, compensates by spending all her time for the Mission.

Despite all this, my little sister raised by my parents and my brother is seriously considering doing the same with her children. Fortunately they are still too young for now, maybe she will change her nind by then, although I do not think so.

It's hard, especially because of the length of the separation and because this is the only child of my brother. However, I agree with Léa and 4d-Don in telling you that the SRCM is not the only organization to support the education of children of the followers in their place. This does not take away from the hell which the Mission spreads, but it is not specific to the operation of Sahaj Marg.

Much love,

Elodie

Friday, November 11, 2011

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See Also:

VBSE (Value Based Spiritual Education) at LMOIS (Lalaji Memorial Omega International School), at SRCM(tm)
http://4d-don.blogspot.com/2007/11/vbse-at-lmos-of-srcmcalifornia.html

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Sahaj Marg(tm) 2011, Dubai, Kamlesh & The GST

2011-11-04T09:29:00.005-07:00

Taken and translated from an article by Alexis: "2011, Dubai, Kamlesh & la GST" on Elodie's blog in Europe: Pour Que Vive Le Sahaj Marg. Alexis has his own blog (french & english) also: Le Projet Sahaj Marg

Insertions and additions (for clarity) by 4d-Don are in "red italics"

November 4, 2011

2011: Dubai, Kamlesh & GST

After one year of "sabbatical," Chari resumed his travels abroad. First to Dubai for the inauguration in the spring of their ashram, then to Singapore and to neighboring Malaysia. With October, came returning to Dubai this time with his new "dauphin" (successor in waiting), Kamlesh D. Patel, a pharmacist from Brooklyn (Staten Island, N.Y.) ...

In early summer, Chari had revealed he was working on the renovation of the SRCM with Ishak Adizes. A team of global services (GST, Global Service team) had been established with Kamlesh as the GRAND mediator.

From Dubai, where Chari came to visit the banks with Kamlesh to ensure the financial succession, he re-iterated the role of the GST and the reorganization of the Mission. Historically, Babuji had not split the actions of the Mission between the administration and the spirituality. Fifteen years after the arrival of Chari, these two parts were organized separately.

Today, Chari has kept two things from Adizes' proposals: an organization must answer the question why? what? ... and nothing works properly without mutual respect and mutual trust. There is need of nothing else to "become brothers and sisters," but Chari added that this lacks ...

He reminds that the abhyasis are there to serve, not to serve humanity but to serve him, the master who loves everyone. "Love him who loves all." So the administration and spirituality may well be made by each communally, but it requires a global service team.

Critics of this new organization are fusing already, Chari asks all not to judge it and be patient, otherwise the system will not work ...

A team of 14 persons, 14 Indian chiefs, serving the entire SRCM, what a revolution! We've already had the President's Committee, nothing new under the sun ...

The mountain of Adizes / Chari has given birth to a very small mouse indeed ...

Alexis
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To Abhyasis of Sahaj Marg Who Read This Blog!!

2011-10-11T09:53:00.008-07:00

Taken and translated from an article by Elodie: "Rappel Aux Abhyasis Qui Lisent Ce Blog" on her blog: Pour Que Vive Le Sahaj Marg.

October 11, 2011

Reminder to the abhyasis who read this blog

You respond to our arguments by saying that we do not know of what we speak, because we do not know what Sahaj Marg is, and that we have not experienced it.

THINK AGAIN!

Alexis and 4d-Don are the exceptions that prove the rule.

Cricri, Michael, Frank, Madeleine, Peter and Ines, Cyril, Paolo and I are all old abhyasis. Together we have spent more time in the SRCM than each of you. Some of us were preceptors, others had various responsibilities.

Rejecting our arguments on the grounds that we do not know of what we speak is to be like the ostrich burying its head in the sand, in the face of inconvenient truths. It is to want to remain deaf and blind to certain realities that you deny to the absurd, so as to not re-question yourself.

IT IS DIFFICULT, BUT YOU ARE NOT ALONE

To doubt, to re-learn to think for oneself, to recognize after years in error that one has been wrong, to take a place on the sidelines, it is not easy. But we've been there, we demonstrate that it is possible, that one can rebuild, turn the page and move on to other things. You are not alone.

YES, YOU CAN!

There is life after Sahaj Marg, one can live without it, and especially live better, much better.

Elodie
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Comment by Paolo, Ex-Preceptor of Sahaj Marg!

2011-10-08T09:03:00.003-07:00

Taken and translated from a comment by Paolo, ex-preceptor of Sahaj Marg (under Babuji and Chari), on article by Cricri (Christian): Le Temoignage de Cricri, (see English version on this blog: "Ex-Abhyasi of Sahaj Marg, Cricri's Testimonial"), on Elodie's blog in Europe: Pour Que Vive Le Sahaj Marg.

Comments and insertions by 4d-don are in "red italics"

(See reply by Cricri below)

Paolo Said:

The argument that you suggest seems very interesting and even fundamental to any spiritual seeker.

My name is Paolo and I joined Sahaj Marg in 1978. I met Babuji the next year in India and several other times until he departed (April 19, 1983)

I met Chari in 1979 in India when he was secretary general of the SRCM, then I accepted him as the new chairman of the mission and later as master, believing that I was "recognizing the master where he was", basing my decision especially on the perception of the transmission flowing from him.

I worked as a preceptor for 15 years until I left the SRCM in 2003.

I do not think though that I have anything to teach to anyone, but at the same time I am absolutely convinced that we must ask questions and try to answer them honestly.

The first question which you had already asked is:

- Is there a difference between spirituality and power?

and also:

- Does there exist any form of "energetic" power with no spiritual nature?

- The practice of "suggestion" towards the abhyasis or those who are not abhyasis, widely used by Chari and many of the preceptors, (is it) a spiritual practice?
(For example: work by suggesting that someone who abandoned the mission will return)

-In order to be helped spiritually by a Master should one not have, beyond "energetic" power, certain characteristics, innate by a special birth or acquired by his spiritual practice, such as humility or non-attachment to material goals, including the idea of the growth at all costs of his mission?

- Should the Master should not have a direct experience of the spiritual realms, and help us to do the same (direct experience!) And have no recourse to mediums and like people?

I do not think that to ask whether Chari is a channel or not, is a good question.

I'm sure he is a channel but of what "energy" is it?

Is this a purely spiritual "energy", liberating from the grips of the material and helping to enter the spiritual worlds, or, an "energy", which in one way or another, only develops the ego in an infinite expansion?

Someone said that you can judge the tree by its fruits.

Best regards and thank you for all your efforts

Paolo

Saturday, October 1, 2011

Cricri Said:

Paolo,

"believing that I was recognizing the Master where he was", basing my decision primarily on the perception of the trasmission that flowed from him."

From KC Narayana (of ISRC a SRCM break-away group) I learned that the transmission is an act of will.

He has long insisted that I understand the difference between divine grace and transmission.

From the SRCMtm, I was confused.

Transmission can not flow by itself passively it seems, it is something else.

You do not doubt that Chari is a channel, but you doubt about the type of energy that he channels.

What are your assumptions about the nature of this energy?

"I worked as a preceptor for 15 years until I left the SRCM in 2003."

Would you explain, since you are a former insider, how the teacher manipulates the abhyasi to make it obedient and indoctrinated?

I refer to "spiritual" techniques and these famous suggestions emitted during the siting or during the remote (at a distance) working sessions on the abhyasi.

Explain to the readers what this witchcraft recipe is, the readers would not believe if it came from me.

Would thou also tell us why the teacher is unable to advance the abhyasi spiritually?

The suggestions have obviously limits :-)

"for example, to work by suggesting that someone who has abandoned the mission will return"

I know this is the kind of process that one undergoes, and more so from people that we know, and believe to want to do well.

In my case, however, I have taken the lead by addressing the abhyasis of Chari by all the names of birds (Bird-brain) : I'm sure they would not want me to return to their cult! :-)

Yet the sense of my last post is honesty.

Some abhyasis were influenced by blogs while that the choice should have come from them.

Today they have doubts about their decision because they feel they have lost something essential.

(Continuation and end)

We have a spiritual responsibility to be cleansed.

If an abhyasi doubts that he has made the right choice, then, he must return to SRCMtm and not wait, and watch the situation from the inside after having had an outside view.

So he will obtain the means to make a choice that comes from himself, if indeed the "suggestions" which is he is the target leaves him that.

If he decides to leave, he must really have faith, and look hard.
Likewise, if he decides to stay!

"Should The Master not have direct experience of the spiritual realms"

Absolutism demonstrates an inability to understand the complexity of the world, general relativism, the nuances and subtlety of the universe.

It shows a total misunderstanding of nature and the compensatory need to construct a safe mental building.

It is the opposite of living a spirituality which brings us constantly in front of the unknowable.

For this reason, I am awed by the thoughts of Lalaji, whereas with Babuji, an exclusive monotheism is set in place while this exclusivity is absent from the original Sufi teaching.

If Chari has no direct experience of the spiritual realms, he seems to be used as a channel: by what, by whom, for what purpose?

Darth Vader is a beautiful metaphor for Chari.

Both are trapped in a net of influence which they have allowed to develop by ambition, indulgence, and arrogance.

A spark of good is also in Chari: perhaps it will his its work one day?

Perhaps it is already at work, guiding the lost in the maze of his ambition?

And if all this would open on an episode of light?

That's why nothing is decided on Chari and SRCMtm and I want to re-open the debate in a constructive way.

Paolo, you are essential to help us think, thank you for sharing.

Cricri

Wednesday, October 5, 2011

Ex-Abhyasi of Sahaj Marg, Cricri's Testimonial

2011-10-05T11:02:00.003-07:00

Taken and translated from a comment from Cricri, an ex-abhyasis of 18 years (with Chari): Le Témoignage de Cricri", on Elodie's blog in Europe: Pour Que Vive Le Sahaj Marg.

Christian is a Research Psychologist and Psycho-linguist.

Comments and insertions by 4d-Don are in "red italics"

September 30, 2011

Cricri's Testimonial

Pushing the thinking further: Are the dissidents wrong on the essentials?

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Cricri's blog: http://srcmtm-fr.blogspot.com/

I have asked this question repeatedly during this discussion - to one and all, on the blogs and in private and to myself over and over again, trying to contemplate the situation so as to know for sure.

Why is the answer not more clear? Why is it that I return to these questions, which imply that, maybe I was wrong about Chari and that I have misled the abhyasis by drawing them in my revolutionary wake?

Because undeniably, there is some spirit with Chari. Because despite his behavior, despite what he causes, despite the rotten fruit of this tree, the divine makes Its way regardless of the ability of men.

I know that all of the abhyasis SRCMtm continue to question themselves on a recurrent and similar phenomenon: How can "spiritually advanced" people - as found in the inner circle of Chari or in important posts in the "mission" - have such a gross personality, an arrogance so visible, and such a heinous behavior?

The answer they find is always "the ego", one of the central concerns of Chari's abhyasis (disciples), about which nobody ever talks among the dissident groups. The ego (the devil) is, along with the samskaras (sins), reincarnation (hell), liberation (access to Heaven), master (Christ the Saviour), the Self (Spirit), and the center (God) , one of the structural elements of the hindu-ized Judeo-Christian dogma which founded the software of SRCMtm (Judeo-Christianity has been proven to be able to control the masses and to manipulate history. It was destroyed by the Freemasons and its associates, to remove the fangs and the claws of the Church.) However, it (ego?) is necessary. The psychobiological universal structure, or the machine language, is transcribed into an exotic cultural matrix, to appear as a new software functionality so as to be accepted easier: it is still the same system of power, manipulating the levers of the same fear and desire - the stick and the carrot).

Anyone who has an ego-rush falls (into hell), and all the people who gravitate around Chari have been chosen by him for these positions of proximity, so that he can better work on them - implying the poor souls, let us have pity on their miserable condition for we, the small people of SRCMtm are worth much more than these great(s), (since we do not need to undergo this favoured treatment of deep cleaning (de-carboning?).

I have long believed this mythology which sounds pretty logical. I, however noticed over time, after 10 or 15 years, that those close to the master were hoplessly thick (dense), and that they were really getting rather worse. It was still rather confusing, since the master it seemed, performed on them a specific job so as to get them out of their human misery.

It seemed instead that they were rather more arrogant, and some, which I will not mention by name, were sometimes openly hateful towards some abhyasis - enough to be widely unpopular in the movement (humiliation + jealousy = brotherly love? ).

Therefore, there came a time when another hypothesis has made its way into my mind: the mythology of common sense was a mythology. Which meant that either (i) Chari was doing no specific spiritual work on these people in the inner circle so as to make them "evolve" (inability or abuse), and (ii) that he used the most vile characteristics to develop and manage the pyramid of power on top of which he continued to climb ( pushiness, ambition).

But this meant above all else, something even worse: Chari could not be a spiritual master if he had such practices, such tactics and such aims - and although he claims to be the spiritual successor of Babuji, and although he had the support of some Western abhyasis, whom he knew how to manipulate in the 80's and 90's, so as to return to power in India with a legitimate dissidence.

Numbers of "old abhyasis" have deserted the entourage of Chari over time. Most were illustrious unknowns, but some were of stature, and some, not the least, were spoken about in their retreat from the movement with varying degrees of commotion. Invariably, the rumors among the mass of followers, was that these former devotees had all fallen thanks to the media. They had a crisis of ego, and they turned their backs on the Holy Spirit, on God and on His messenger Chari-Saviour.

Myself, when I joined the movement in the late 80s, I was somewhat confused by the unexpected meeting with a preceptor from a group of dissidents a few days after my introductory sittings in Chari's faction ... I found myself accidentally thrown into the heart of the conflict, opponents Chari wanting to tell me nothing, advising me to follow my path, and accepting that I come meditate with them while continuing with Chari's group, and some others telling me that the dissidents did not recognize the new master, and advised me not to go ...

So I took this as an excuse to ask, a few months later, for a personal interview with Chari, and to meet him for the first time. I wanted to ask him some questions, with the idea of the character test, to get an opinion and to choose one group or another. On the point of psychology, Chari had replied "They failed to recognize the Master where he is." - Speaking of the spiritual principle that the Anglo-Saxons call the "holy ghost", the "holy fantasm" or the Holy Spirit.

I was 20, Chari impressed me with the clarity of his thought, the spiritual energy that emanated from him, and the message of the teachings that he made me discover. The dissidents that I knew formed a splinter group, not organized, consisting of ego-centered individuals with a spirituality which seemed to be more of a memory than a powerful stream. I had no experience relevant to my aspiration. In the group of Chari on the contrary, I found an organization rich in potential, a living master who seemed to have backbone, especially, who had the spirit with him. It is this last point that had determined my choice. More precisely, this first meeting with Chari had been foundational. There was no more doubt, no more questions. I had seen the two alternatives, I knew for sure.

The first years were totally carefree. I was carried by my aspiration and the aspiration of the group, a great power prevailed, togetherness was still in the human dimensions and each found its place. Spirituality was at the heart of this beautiful enterprise. We had, at the seminars, three, sometimes four satsanghs per day. Chari came to France several times a year. The spirit was always present and we were immersed in all this joy, this dynamic. It was wonderful.

Over time, the SRCM has become the SRCMtm, a monstrous machine to crush the hearts and souls, a factory to indoctrinate with the sole ambition "A Brave New World" (general trend of global society). Around 1995, I began to realize the shift that had taken place in the organization, I think in the early 90s. In 1997, it was very visible, with the introduction of a new structure and more stringent operating rules for the expansion to come, I began to take real distance, tortured between my unsatisfied desire, my total indoctrination, and incomprehension in the face of the destruction of the soul of the mission which was taking place.

Until 2005, I thought that this destruction was the result of abhyasis and management teams. I trusted in Chari, believing it was a temporary stage in the process, all the energy that was involved in the establishment of the structure but soon, a focus on spirituality would take place. Between 1998 and 2005, I continued my practice with the regular use of individual sittings, but I would not attend the exceptional group meditations.

In 2005, I took stock of the situation as it became clear that my practice was declining more and more. I had to try to revive a practice followed by more and more involvement in the social life of the mission, since the pressure of indoctrination in messages by Chari were having their effect on my thinking.

I went to Italy and to Denmark, two international seminars. What I saw stunned me. A collective madness had infected the masses. The attention was focused not AT ALL on spirituality, but on the purchase of land and buildings for the ashrams, and so on fundraising.

In a seminar, the son of Chari animated the auction of objects and works offered by the abhyasis to the mission. As few participants had come to support the first auction, it was decided to organize the following auction at the time of satsangh, because everyone would be present. It was a scandal. Abhyasis, disgusted, turned on the son of Chari in the discussions which took place the following hours and days. This hated son was an immoral representative, able to exchange the sacred for the profane at very vile prices, to please his father.

At the next seminar, responding to the wave of protests with contempt and arrogance - as usual, it was Chari himself who animated the auctions ...

Doubt was no longer possible, many abhyasis fell from on (their) high, wondering if their idol had not become senile. Still seeking for excuses, I was one of those who assumed that the inner circle of Chari, consisting of the worst social climbers of the mission, had rotted his mind by contaminating him gradually with subversive ideas. At the same time, I saw him host a sale with my own eyes. And I saw a person self-assured, methodical, manipulative, working in full knowledge of what he did and for what purpose, playing with the idolatry of the abhyasis to make them empty their pockets.

So I had at one time or another to go through the full process and test Chari - you know the rest.

Yet could there not be something else behind all these symptoms? Behind this grim reality, sordid, and animalistic?

What if Chari, despite his repeated criminal acts, was a tool of the divine, unconscious, driven from above? And if the spirit of God flowed through him? And if Chari was a master anyway?

I have heard the arguments from one and the many. I saw with my own eyes the one and the many. I lived and I felt. I analyzed and I dis-endoctrinated. I learned the difference between power and spirituality, or at least got some insight so as to know that there is a difference.

And yet, I confess, I never managed to find this certainty, after years of quest that Chari is not a channel.

So I open this section of my blog to officially launch a discussion in which I invite everyone, both from one camp or the other, to make constructed and constructive arguments. This is an important debate, as it aims to (i) confirm or (ii) reject the hypothesis of the dissidents.

If (ii) is correct, it is important that those who were misled by the blogs may have the elements so they can find their way - or rather, to take an informed decision for their own spiritual destiny.

Cricri

Chari of Sahaj Marg(tm) Names Successor: Kamlesh D Patel

2011-10-03T13:45:00.011-07:00

It's official (signed and witnessed: July 26th, 2011 ... notice who are the witnesses) and FOR LIFE :

http://www.sahajmarg.org/c/document_library/get_file?uuid=e66c3ce2-7174-43f8-bc4b-0ad1190eece2&groupId=10128

P. S. This appointement FOR LIFE is apparently confirmed by long-ago "deceased" spirit of Babuji ... through a medium or "directly"?? We are not told.

Alexis said ...

Yesterday, October 3, 2011, Chari made public the appointment of his successor, a decision made officially since July 26 and therefore kept secret for more than two months.

Why the secrecy? Why the delay?

Result: when the rumor began to circulate among abhyasis, they rushed to our blogs for more information. Does that not top it all?! Or rather the perfect illustration that the information does not flow very well in this movement ...

So six years after appointing Ajay (Kumar Bhatter) (April 30, 2005), and one and a half years after the announcement of his resignation (May 2, 2010), Chari nominates Kamlesh Desaibhai Patel as his successor, the next representative of his Divine Master, Babuji and the future President for Life of SRCM. This document written at the Diamond Jubilee Park in Tiruppur, (India) July 26, 2011, is co-signed by US Bajpai, AK Bhatter and Sanjay Bhatia.

This second Tiruppur Declaration has been approved by Babuji, in a message to Chari, confirming the choice of the person to succeed. Translation: Chari needed a medium to hear Babuji, this means that Catherine Lauret (the Medium?) also endorsed the choice of Kamlesh, forfeiting her own ambitions ... at least for a time. As for Babuji, you believe or you do not believe ...

Who is Kamlesh Patel?

A head of the show, an abhyasi of the first hour, preceptor for nearly as long, who has gone through all the positions of responsibility (zone-in-charge, region-in-charge, etc..), to the positions of Director of American foundation (Sahaj Marg Spirituality Foundation) SMSF and of ombudsman of the new Gobal World Service of SRCM.

This Indian by origin living in Staten Island, in the state of New York, United States. An Indo-American to head the SRCM is new. If he truly succeeds Chari - in contrast to Ajay - will he remain there in the United States or return to India?

Will we see a raising on American soil a giant ashram called Chariji Memorial Ashram?

Tuesday, October 4, 2011

Here is the official Message:

Important Announcement from Rev. Master

To,

All Abhyasis Worldwide.

Dear Sisters and Brothers,

In the meeting of the Mission's Working Committee held today morning at Kolkata, Rev. Master has announced the nomination of Br. Kamlesh D. Patel as his spiritual successor who shall succeed him as the President of the Mission worldwide. The audio and video of the announcement at the Working Committee meeting and a scanned copy of the Nomination can be accessed by clicking on the following links -

SRCM Successor Nomination Dated 26th July 2011 - PDF Document

Sahaj Marg's Babuji, A VERY Special Personality!!

2011-09-23T08:24:00.010-07:00

Taken and translated from an article by Alexis: Babuji, Une Personalité TRÈS Spéciale, on Elodie's Blog in Europe: Pour Que Vive Le Sahaj Marg.

Comments and insertions by 4d-Don are in "red italics"

Alexis Said:

Babuji, a VERY Special Personality!

In his last message, Elodie expressed concerns about the possibility that Babuji was also a dangerous illuminated.

In the eyes of an ordinary person - who is not mired in spiritualism as in Sahaj Marg - what is known of his life could be reduced to something between onirism, paranoia, (apocalyptic) prophesy and mediumship:

- Onirism:

First, the transmission between Lalaji and Babuji in the transition from the life to the death of Lalaji in 1931, then the dreams of Babuji between 1944 and 1945 where he was successively occupied by Lalaji, Vivekananda, Baqi Billah, etc..

- Paranoia:

First, between 1931 and 1945 when he feared for his life from jealous competitors, then at the end of his life between 1981 and 83 when he believes that some are conspiring against him, is afraid of being poisoned or assassinated.

- Apocalyptic Prophesy:

Particularly in the early 50s, in his book "Reality at Dawn" (Chapter: My vision) where he sees England sinking under the sea, then in 1955 when he insists that he foretold the change of direction of the Gulf Stream ...

- Mediumship:

With his words from beyond the grave recorded in Whispers, where he continues to announce the upheaval of the world, a nuclear Apocalypse, the arrival of aliens on earth, a new chosen people with the Indigo children, etc..

Spiritually, Babuji is considered a special personality by the proponents of Sahaj Marg, as well as by Chari and KC Narayana and Kasturi. Special personality in the sense that his place and his role are significant to the spiritual (adepts), in the example of the other great saints of all times, such as Jesus, Ramakrishna, Vivekananda, Kabir and Muhammad ...

For an ordinary person, Babuji is a very special personality, a dangerous visionary who navigates between dreamlike (oniric) messages, paranoid behaviour, apocalyptic prophesies, and mediumship from beyond the grave.

Spiritualism has a broad back!

Alexis

Cri-cri Said:

Hello Elodie!

I myself have deep reservations about the whole aristosphere of Sahaj Marg, but I realize that by leaving the space to a single point of view, the blogs have gradually fallen into the same excesses as their opponents.

So would you allow me to publish this message for you to post on your blog for discussion?

I agree:

Babuji seems to have been a fanatic of the first category with the defects listed here. A constant among the mystics is that they are inherently enlightened. And because they are illuminated, they all tend to be excessive in a particular direction, causing an imbalance in their absolute cognitive organization, a form of self-hypnotic obsession.

Parenthetically, those who do aspire to spirituality, with even a foot in reason and normality, are always in one way or another, in a broken life. Someone balanced, responsive, good in his shoes, would not aspire to the beyond.

I would add to the list by Alexis, other elements that are also indications of a basic problem, such as:

1) the suicide of his (Babuji's) son, perhaps revealing a problematic emotional dynamics in the family structure - not only of the sole fact of a Babuji, but of a more ancient ancestry which also resulted in creating a Babuji

2) the intrigues of power with the historical rivalry between religious Hinduism and Islam for the spiritual fatherhood of the (spiritual) technique, especially criticiseable, but understandable in the context

3) the excess of the absolute nature of the teaching, which borders on obsession, since the master is everything, and annihilates the individual, love is permanent and focused on a single object in constant remembrance, in contradiction with others proposals about the spiritual essence of nature: balance

4) the fruit of the tree (section missing from message)

For example.

(Message #2)

But I strongly temper my words and would also counter-balance the claims of Alexis - it must be remembered, (Alexis) has no approach to spirituality, as he recognizes himself. For this gap, he may lack some elements of understanding that led him to his conclusions a little early. But it is his role and he plays it.

1) none of us has known Babuji directly. Those having approached have had an indelible impression, often so strong that it caused the illumination of more than one - to be truly enlightened, it's contagious! Babuji never said he was perfect, it was his disciples who said it. He introduced himself as a mere human being, sometimes doubting himself to the utmost, and putting everything one his master. He knew he had faults, that he was insignificant. His master was everything to him. He (Lalaji, his Master) was not a CEO who hired an employee to act as his successor in a political show, as we have seen recently (and some employees can now resign, an extravagance never seen in a disciple), (a reference to Ajay Kumar Bhatter) but a true mystical relationship between a master and his disciple. If this relationship is imaginary, then the case of Babuji is psychiatric. But can it be imagined, considering the spiritual strength that emanated from Babuji?

Also, if this relationship is not imaginary, (i) Babuji was what he claimed to be (the disciple of his master - not the special personality, which it is others who say), and (ii) the phenomenon may happen again in the near future or distant (eg, if the Chari-sts become too delirious: failure and rupture of the connection by a Muslim, and the emergence of a new haloed head (Saint?), schism and attempted murder)

2) many ambiguities and inconsistencies could potentially be reduced or waived if it were possible to have the clarification of the author (but beware: many of them are creations of the disciples of Babuji) - alas, we are today, unfortunately under the dubious intermediaries, and sentenced to speculate on many events. For example, to say that Babuji was paranoid at the end of his life because he thought he would be killed is an gratuiteous attack. Some aged people experience a profound change in their perception and their cognitive processes, and traits of paranoia sometimes appear after 80 years in subjects which were previously balanced. This paranoia in the elderly is simply an expression of a deep insecurity due to the reduction of physical control over the environment, combined with an impairment of the cognitive and sensory. Caregivers for the elderly are trained to secure the individual through touch.

(Message #3)

In addition, Babuji is dead of an apparent poisoning, while there are no shortage of strange stories about this whole affair. We must also consider what this disappearance has permitted ... Intuitively, because I can not reach a logical proof from the elements that I have, I think it is likely that Babuji was killed. So what seems to have been paranoia on his part could just as easily be an informed intuition. About the (paranoid?) episode of his youth, it could be a stage of spiritual development. Our psyche is full of anguish, and to turn one's attention inward forces us necessarily to confront it.

3) the spiritual phenomenon is a reality. Its explanation is another thing. Denying the problem or to reduce it to a mental illness, is one position. Facing the phenomenon, we therefore have on one hand those which intimate experience has convinced, and on the other hand, those who have no personal experience, and who are convinced otherwise. To the first, the society offers various institutions to indulge their pleasure. To the latter, society offers the right to consolidate. Life is not an hallucination, and when the stream is free of biopsychic structures which put it into shape, the inner experience changes with possible upheavals, and is always inadequate to the socially shared standard. In addition, our dead continue to live in us. Some, like Babuji, seem to have extended their presence in an area much larger than their direct offsprings. It is possible to commune with them and benefit from their help and guidance - do not ask me how it works but there is always more than what we know. Life is a mystery and a source of wonder.

4) messages (Whispers?) from across the Atlantic are a political manipulation of the masses and SRCMtm. Are they from Babuji? I have my doubts. If you can subscribe to certain themes, their use is suspect: to frighten and conquer? The aliens may be playing humanity into an unenviable role, and the biological resources of our planet may be an important wealth in a sidereal desert. Would a superior intelligence not act in accordance with our imaginative abilities to achieve its purpose?

Let us wait and see: if the aliens did not exist, they would probably be invented - and who would take charge of that?

Cri-cri

Friday, September 23, 2011

Alexis Said:

@ Christian,

Welcome Back,

I understand (accept) not being "spiritual" (I've never hidden and instead often reminded everyone, so as to not fool anyone), but since you seem unable to explain what it is, it limits the exchanges and discussions on the subject.

We basically said: spirituality is experienced, it can not be explained.

OK, then act! But I experienced there thirty years ago, without results. I even met Chari with a group of friends at that time. They were (allegedly) illuminated, not me.

So!? Have I not the same right as the others? I was too materialistic to let myself be subjugated? I had too much stigma?

There is probably a little of all this, I think.

But the illumination of friends sometimes persisted, sometimes it disappeared.

Personally, I put this illumination to the account of the charisma or Chari or Babuji. Charisma is nothing else than the result of a huge public expectations, vis-à-vis a personality which is a little unconventional.

Too bad no one is able to be more precise with relative objectivity about what they could have felt in contact with these two people ...

Tuesday, September 27, 2011

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Sahaj Marg(tm)? "What An Ass"!!

2011-09-20T10:01:00.024-07:00

Is this SPIRITUALITY "Sahaj Marg(tm)" Style?? Or is this another example of SPIRITUALISM or SPIRITISM? Is this what will make the world more SPIRITUAL and less "materialist" or "sensualist"??

I guess, like some "businessmen" and/or "agents", some must think that if a pseudo-spiritual agent pushes (like a street drug dealer?) a commercial product while standing on his/her 'tippy toes" (ballet?), it shows that he/she has "class"!! It does not, of course. And, if a sales agent promotes or pushes a crass or "corrupt?" material commercial product while entering in a daily navel-gazing bliss, then it must mean that it is "SPIRIT-uality". Again, it does not!!

NOT ... NOT ... NOT ...

From the Newspaper Times of India article by Rajiv Singh, Sept. 20, 2011: Flying Machine's new advertisement draws controversy

"....One of India's early home-grown jeans brands, Flying Machine (see below), over the weekend, released a print advertisement that shows the picture of a female model wearing tight fit jeans around her buttocks, with the catchline in big, bold font screaming: 'What an Ass!' It was probably meant to highlight the oomph and cool quotient in an old brand, perhaps even mimic the edginess of the 'All asses were not created equal' tagline in an advertisement last year by larger rival Levi Strauss & Co. While the jury is out on whether Flying Machine's latest campaign has found resonance with the cool set, the advertisement is generating heat in some quarters. "

The new advertising campaign for Arvind Mills' blue denim jeans is drawing controversy in India. According to an article in the Times of India ( Rajiv Singh, Sept. 20, 2011) Flying Machine's New Advertisement Draws Controversy, Arvind Mills is promoting their new brand: "Flying Machine" blue jeans, by depicting the ass of a woman. This is allegedly not as acceptable as the company thought, and some women's rights activists are crying "foul".

What does this have to to with Sahaj Marg(tm)??

Here is the profile of the Lalbhai Group, and for Arvind Mills and their "board of directors"

The Chairman and Managing director of Arvind Mills, Sanjay Lalbhai, is (or was) also a trustee of the Sahaj Marg Spirituality Foundation (SMSF). The "chairman" stated in an interview that the immediate goal of his company was 10% of the US "blue jean" market. (see here from the patent office of the USA). Accpording to Chari (in one of his speeches), Sanjay also made donations to the SRCM. Later, Chari was seen (and photographed) wearing a new pair of "western blue jeans", which were rumoured to have cost (accompanied by a donation of?) "a million bucks".

Corporate structure for Sahaj Marg Spirituality Foundation (SMSF), Roswell Georgia (of UFO fame ... Flying Machine?? ) ...

Women's rights groups are incensed, and rightly so. Betrayed again, and by the women of Sahaj Marg(tm) who say NOTHING!! Would you, the "judas goats" inside Sahaj Marg(tm), also sell your girls to this type of advertisement campaign, (simply because a businessman, a profiteer donated to your so-called "corrupt" new religion??

Apparently some "GURUS", who preach and point at others, also have flexible ethics and morals and would trade their endorsement for a price or a donation. (the end justifies the means ... Machiavelli). All are FREE to build their commercial and nationalist empires, but stop preaching at the rest of the world, like pseudo-spiritualist hypocrites. BE HONEST !!

Ah! Ah! Ah! What a mess! What a mess!! What a SPIRITUALIST mess!!

First, with Sahaj Marg(tm), the company-line was "think with your heart (the PUMP for blood) not with your brain". And then, from one of its pseudo-spiritual trustees, it now is: "What an ASS"!! Is Sahaj Marg(tm) drifting toward: "Think with your ass"?? I thought it was western men who were said (by some women) to "think with their penis"??

Come on Women!! Are some of you still led by the nose by some pseudo-spiritual old farts who want to see your young girls in "what an ass", sexy, pair of western blue jeans! Do you still believe in their MALE GOD?? Their BRIGHTER WORLD?? Are you still kneeling before those who discriminate on the basis of gender (sexism), or "skin complexion" (racism), or sexual preference (Homosexuality) ?? According to Chari, all religions promote violence and war (see your VBSE curriculum, lesson X). Is that "tolerance" for other religions??

How "FUNDAMENTALIST" !!

Call your anonymous French Lady MEDIUM and ask the "spirit" of deceased Babuji (SPIRITUALISM) !! ... and Chari or his so-called "medium" will answer!! (Is that "spiritualist" CONTROL??) You will of course believe that it is Babuji who spoke the message. How silly!! How SPIRITUALIST!!

Women have struggled long in opposition to being branded and/or marketed as: chicks, foxy, rabbits (breeders of loose morals), broads, etc...

An "ass", beside being a "behind", and hence, not a leading part of the human anatomy, is also the name of an alleged dense, and "dumb" animal !!

But: "What an ass"!! eh?? Ka-ching, Ka-ching!! It's all about MONEY!! And POWER!! Taking over commercial markets!! That is the SPIRITUALITY of India, being exported to our shores!!

Sahaj Marg(tm) and SRCM(California-1997) is once again shown to be simply a gang of nationalist, imperialist, SPIRITUALIST businessmen, who are not very SPIRITUAL ... Sahaj Marg(tm) claims to be a Raja Yoga, starting at step #7. Now we know why. One can do anything as long as one "meditates" or "prays", ignoring steps 1 to 6 of Patanjali's Raja Yoga. Does that now sound like every other RELIGION??

I join John Lennon of the Beatles:
"Imagine there's no country and no religion too..."

Where in Raja Yoga is the ethics and morality of: "What an ass" ??

No sex please ... we are SPIRITUAL!! ;-))

I have only one (facetious) complaint or suggestion:

Could "Flying Machine" use the "ass" of a more "mature" woman !! ;-) Say, a 70 year old woman?? lol lol

Maybe all the "mature" women in Sahaj Marg(tm) are chasing the young men!! So they live with shame and can't "speak out"!! Ah! How Power corrupts!!

Power tends to confuse itself with virtue and a great nation is particularly susceptible to the idea that its power is a sign of God's favor, conferring upon it a special responsibility for other nations– to make them richer and happier and wiser, to remake them, that is, in its own shining image. Power confuses itself with virtue and tends also to take itself for omnipotence. Once imbued with the idea of a mission, a great nation easily assumes that it has the means as well as the duty to do God's work.

J. William Fulbright

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See also:

Chari' s Million Dollar "Western Blue Jeans"
Sahaj Marg Spirituality Foundation (SMSF) acts like a Privately-owned Fund

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More "destruction" being worked for at Sahaj Marg(tm)!

2011-09-08T08:29:00.008-07:00

Comments to speech by Chari, "Scatter the Seeds of Spirituality" at the 9 March 2011, Ashram Inauguration, Raipur, India

Comments by 4d-don are in "red italics"

Now the Predictions of "Destruction" by an "apocalyptic" sectarian "cult of a (special) person":

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"Babuji Maharaj was once working on the plane when I was sitting near him, sitting next to him, coming back from, I think Europe. He was deeply engrossed – khoye-khoye baithe the. After thirty, forty minutes I asked him, “Babuji, you were lost. What were you doing?” He said, “Tum batao. [You tell me.]” So I said, “You are probably doing some work in the future.” He said, “How much in the future?” I said, “I don’t know mathematics, so I cannot tell you, but quite far in the future.” He patted me on the back and said, “Shabaash! [Well done!]” I said, “But, for such a small reply you are saying Shabaash!” He said, “You don’t know; one person in a million cannot give this answer. To know that it was in the future was itself a great answer to an important question. To know that it was quite far into the future was even better.” I said, “Now tell me what you were actually doing?” He said, “I was preparing the foundation for the special personality that will come to destroy this universe when Kali Yuga ends.” Thousands and thousands of years in the future, you see."

Now the Universe will allegedly be destroyed by a "special person-ality", (and Babuji is not that "person", as some like to claim) ... And if all the world changes? Then like all religions, they infer that no destruction will take place ... and the UNIVERSE will exist "as is" ETERNALLY, with the religions and their materialists (them also??) not existing, but all the citizens of the world serving the all-new and natural MASTER OF THE UNIVERSE, the Lord of Sahaj MART(tm) ...

Research the history of Sahaj Marg on this site, and see if you think that the UNIVERSE (nature) will favour such "divisive" and materialist (matter) endeavours which are in reality: RELIGION or spiritualism, not spirituality!! I mean "favour" by destroying everything!!

And now (see below), they even have "soldiers" and "their officers"!! Much like the other "RELIGIONS" ... another pyramid inside a pyramid ... all very religious, militarist, "materialist" (matter) and "business" structures of the OLD PARADIGM ... not SPIRIT!! And not very SPIRITUAL!! Sort of like Christianity, Islam, Judaism, et al ...

How about a song to march to? (in 4/4 time):

(The officer says: " ... by the "right" quick march ..." and everybody sings: )

"Onward Sahaj Marg(tm) Soldiers, marching as to war"

The OLD PARADIGM in a "pseudo-spiritual" veneer, which is in REALITY: SPIRITUALISM, with an anonymous French Lady Medium, messages from the "spirits", and egregores, indigo children, and now an "army"!! Ho-hum !! What a mess!!

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"I am happy to see our jawans [soldiers] and their officers here; I welcome them. I am happy that our efforts have reached them too, and I hope I will see battalions of them in the future. May they progress well. May they all grow. God bless all of you."

the word: "battalions", comes from the word: "battle"... Battalions do battle!! Against whom? The forces of SATAN ?? Other religions??

A point of theology:

If there is an "end of the world" (a "mahapralaya"), then there can be no "karma" or "samskaras". The "END" cancels all the accumulated KARMA or samskaras !! Whether one has accumulated Karma (moral or ethical debts) or not, the "END of the WORLD" cancels ALL.

Then, if there is an "End of the World", there must be a "Brighter World" (or a "heaven", or a "central region"??) for those without "karma"?? Or is Sahaj Marg's "theology on the run", really a flawed theology?? Do they just make it up as they go? If there's a "heaven" which Babuji seems to say is "UP", then is there also a "hell", which would be "DOWN"?? Babuji infers that !!

Then, is there a "caretaker" in hell ?? If there is "bliss" in heaven, then is there "fire" or suffering in hell (as with the religious hell) , after the "destruction" ?? Is there still "samskaras" after the "END" ??

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The Lies of Fear and Temptation by Chari of Sahaj Marg(tm)!

2011-08-27T11:23:00.010-07:00

Comments to Chari's Speech "We Have a Duty to Our World", 24 July 2011, D.J Park, Tiruppur, India, during Chari's Birthday Bash!!

Comments by 4d-Don are in "red italics"

The lie here is that according to Chari, if one changes, then there will apparently be no "destruction". And then, he states the "contradiction". How "RELIGIOUS"... and how not REALITY and/or not SPIRITUAL.

In Sahaj Marg(tm), contradictions abound, as in most religions. And they think they (and the "indigo" children) will lead mankind in the future?? These spiritual charlatans will only attract the "un-thinking" star-struck fans of fantasies, fairy tales, sci-fi, and pure silliness who will do all the work and attract the un-suspecting (women) ... and/or the "power-addicted" who will profiteer from such masses of "co-dependence" (lustful and power-addicted men who are drawn to the MATERIAL and to the pyramids of subservient "serfs").

We Have a Duty to Our World
(We have a duty to tell the TRUTH and save (conserve) some of the resources of the planet for the next generation, not simply "develop" and profiteer from everything for the benefit of the nationalist, imperialist, sexist, racist, homophobe "businessmen of Sahaj Marg(tm)" or their new RELIGION.)
24 July 2011, D.J Park, Tiruppur, India

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When you watch the old Mahabharata and things like that, I was shocked when rishi Jamadagni, a great saint, was killed by the swords of the four sons of the reigning king. (Huh? How wise can one be if one is shocked that even "spiritual" people (those who have "changed", or have no more need for change) die? Then, we have the following HOLY "revelation" by Chari: ) Spirituality does not guarantee freedom from pain, freedom from death, freedom from opposition, freedom from oppression from the government. It guarantees nothing of these. What does spirituality guarantee? (nothing??) Babuji Maharaj told me some twenty years ago, he said, “Dekho [Look], there is going to be destruction.” (Now that is simply silly and not a REVELATION at all!!) Even now, our Whispers messages that we are getting, there is always talk of destruction. I am waiting one day for at least some hopeful message – not as long as we don’t change. (Destruction and creation will happen whether one "little homo sapiens" changes or not ... GET REAL... stop telling LIES!!)

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So you may determine, you see, and know for certain that there will be destruction; nothing on earth can stop it. (you got that right!) All the technological genius of the West and of Japan could not stop that tsunami. Don’t be fooled by what you read in the newspapers of an early warning system for tsunamis. (That "early warning system" is not to predict the earthquake which causes the tsunami, but for the tsunami itself which travels relatively slowly. This system could save some lives and is a "technological" reality NOW) It doesn’t exist. (not true... that is simply a "lie") When the powers of nature are awakened, birds and bees and ants, they know – but we don’t know. (how silly... commune with NATURE then or ask the "pump"!! ... Nature may "tell" you!! ) We rely on seismographs, we rely on hot news on the television, most of them lies. (lies is what comes from "RELIGION" and the so-called "gurus". ) Here, what is it here [the heart] that you are not looking to? Does this give you any disaster warning? (NO ... use your HEAD, and the technololgy, not the PUMP FOR BLOOD with it's "invented" power of "fore-knowledge")

Always look here [the heart] whenever you are afraid, whenever you are going off track. (lol lol ... get "truthful"!! Ask the PUMP for BLOOD (the heart) if one wants to THINK?? NO!! ) Babuji Maharaj always said, “Don’t trust this [head]. (But he trusted it!! And so do you!! ) It is only a thinking thing. It will give you information. (the heart is not a "thinking thing", and will only give information about the Blood and it's vascular system) It cannot tell you what is right or wrong. When you are in doubt, refer to the heart.” (The heart does not tell one what is "right or wrong" either ... Look at Sahaj Marg(tm) and their religious divisive, materialist, nationalist, imperialist, racist, homophobic, sexist, power addicted, and egotistical gurus and their divisive, stressed, depressed, etc... followers! )

I pray for His blessings on all of you today. Thank you. (I suppose that since you capitalize "His", you are meaning the MALE God of Sahaj Marg(tm), and if you mean Babuji, there is no capital needed ... and he is "deceased" ... He ain't blessing anyone and he is not "whispering" any predictions for the future ... Fantasies and religious fairy tales.... not Raja Yoga or SPIRITUALITY but very much: SPIRITUALISM !!

Sahaj Marg(tm) Reflections On The Suicide Of An Abhyasi!

2011-08-16T10:57:00.014-07:00

Taken from an article by cricri: "Reflexion autour d'un suicide", a research psychologist and psycho linguist, and an ex-abhyasi (of 18 years) of Chari. Taken from Elodie's blog in Europe: Pour Que Vive Le Sahaj Marg.

Cricri has a blog (French): Analyse de la SRCM

August 16, 2011

Reflections on a suicide

I received more details on the context of the suicide of Eugenyi from a mutual friend who met him a few days before the tragedy.

Some points are factual. Others are hypothetical.

Summary of the facts as they have been reported to me:

1) Eugenyi indulged excessively and passionately in the practice of meditation - several hours a day. So he was a good abhyasi, according to Chari's standards, as reflected in his speeches, since Eugenyi took into account the pressure and the urgency to evolve spiritually and the pressure to perform diligently and seriously as distilled by the agent, Chari, in his manipulative speeches.

2) About 4 years before his suicide, Eugenyi had begun to lose touch with reality. The phenomenon was amplified to be manifested by hallucinations will say some, and by the ability to exist consciously in the astral world and have all sorts of experiences at will, will be reported by Eugenyi. Eugenyi who had always had the ability of self-analysis, self-criticism and self-mockery, was unable to step back from his mental experiences, even with the influence of external sources (friends and family ).

3) Eugenyi has been rejected by the community of abhyasis of SRCMtm (Minsk, Belarus) when his psychiatric condition was found out. It seems that this rejection was due to directives from the upper levels of the pyramid of control.

4) It is this rejection by the community he had known for 15 years (slightly less than half of his life), which had become everything to him, which was associated with the meaning of his life as a means to achieve it, which plunged him into a deep depression leading to this act of destruction. We must remember how (i) the practice of SRCMtm weakens the individual by making it hyper-sensitive, (ii) the explicit and implicit mental indoctrination incurred as SRCMtm abolished the discriminative intelligence of the individual, and ( iii) the absolutism (ie excess) which transpires from each component of the megalomaniac SRCMtm under the influence of its chairman.

5) The method used by Eugenyi to kill himself left him no chance of escape. Hence, it was not a cry for help (failed suicide attempt, that is to say, leading to a effective suicide despite a desire not to actually kill oneself), but the manifestation of his absolute despair (jump from his apartment on the 10th floor).

Speculation explored during the discussions:

1) Some have argued that Eugenyi was initially psychologically fragile and that the practice of meditation on predisposed psychological grounds had triggered the crisis, in the same way that cannabis is known to trigger schizophrenia in susceptible adolescents. If this hypothesis were true, it would not have been 10 years (approximately) before the spiritual experiences of Eugenyi turned into hallucinations and the related phenomena. Such effects would have occurred more quickly, after only a few months of practice, as the psychotic decompensation occurs soon after taking cannabis in an adolescent predisposed to schizophrenia, not 10 years later. With such a latency, the practice followed / suffered by Eugenyi could only have been a trigger. It was probably more of a cause.

2) An alternative hypothesis is that the practice of meditation without proper spiritual guidance (that is to say, under the guidance of an incapable spiritual guide such as Chari or his incapble, mindless minions) has caused mental chaos in the abhyasi , which was amplified without the possibility of correction (no guide) as a result of the intensity of the practice. There is no doubt that with an appropriate spiritual leader, or at least dealing properly and responsibly with its abhyasis, an individual developing this type of error would have been extended in the direction of the Self. The failure of the SRCMtm on this individual was evidently a bad publicity for a predatory, expansionist, and cancerous organization, but also a potential source of doubt in the ranks of its followers, thus weakening the house (Mission). For these two strategic reasons, the leaders of the sect had to remove the source of wake-up calls as they have always done with any source of thought, dissent, or simply the truth. The rejection of Eugenyi by the cult is directly responsible for the crisis that followed.

3) The overreaction of the abhyasi reveals the power of the mental influence of the cult of the individual: the cult is everything, the indoctrinated individual who is rejected by the cult is nothing. The resulting despair leads him to prefer self-destruction instead of trying to rebuild his life and to continue his quest. Even that possibility no longer exists. The mental indoctrination imprinted on the individual by the Sri Rahhh javapala Chari-Mi-Sion tm, (Chari's SRCMtm?) is incredibly effective, and now we can say, life-threatening.

Useful or not to Eugenyi?

Useful or not for those who subscribe (adepts)?

Join the futile with the agreeable: Take Eugenyi with you in your prayers.

Cricri

See also;

Sahaj Marg(tm), Meditation, Depression, Hallucination, Suicide
A Tribute to a Deceased (suicide) Abhyasi of Sahaj Marg(tm)

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Sahaj Marg(tm), Meditation, Depression, Hallucination, Suicide,

2011-08-12T22:56:00.007-07:00

Taken from an article by Elodie, "Méditation, dépression, hallucination et suicide", on her blog: Pour Que Vive Le Sahaj Marg

Comments by 4d-Don:

If one reads Babuji's journals, one will see that Babuji, who studied mesmerism (hypnotism) went through a long period of depression and even contemplated suicide because of a workplace incident, according to an article on the Institute of Shri Ram Chandra Consciousness (ISRC) site. One of Babuji's sons also committed suicide.

August 12, 2011

Meditation, depression, hallucinations and suicide

Following the publication of Cricri's tribute to Eugenyi, an ex-abhyasi from Minsk who committed suicide, the reactions were quick.

The same day, an anonymous person left the following comment on the Cricri's blog ... Analyse de la SRCM

"Sir, It was not due to meditation the abyasi got into hallucination or so. It is the mental depression or dis-order can only lead to such horrible experiences. In SRCM the meditation is very simple and not complicated. So many people are getting Hallucination and committing suicides with out practicing meditation. Hallucination or insanity develops in a person due to his own psychological problems and not due to spirituality.”

Eugenyi is not the only abhyasi to have gone through a depression. Ajay Kumar Bhatter, the former heir apparent to Chari, himself admitted that there were a lot of preceptors who were depressive. Moreover, a preceptor psychiatrist deals with depression as an opportunity to go towards Sahaj Marg.

Eugenyi is not the only abhyasi to experience hallucinations. Remember the testimony of Sameer Sachdeva.

And unfortunately, Eugenyi is not the first abhyasi to have committed suicide.

Is there always a cause and effect? Obviously not, but is there ever a cause and effect? This seems hard to believe, although we may never have certainty. A suicide is always a multi-factorial act.

In any case, caution should be excercised and it is certainly worth questioning. Especially when the preceptors are actively searching for depressive people, to get them into Sahaj Marg.

The abandonment or blacklisting of an abhyasi by his peers can turn out to be dramatic and be seen to be non-assistance by a persons in danger. The duty of support should be the very minimum for the community members of SRCM and their preceptors.

Sahaj Marg meditation according to Chari does not bring only positive effects, one must know and be conscious of this. Often this causes, maintains or exacerbates depressive effects. Sometimes unfortunately it also brings much more serious problems like hallucinations or madness.

Elodie

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A Tribute To A Deceased (suicide) Abhyasi of Sahaj Marg(tm)

2011-08-06T09:42:00.011-07:00

Taken and translated from an article, "Hommage" - (A Tribute)", by Cricri, an ex-abhyasis of 18 years with Chari, and a research psychologist and psycho-linguist in Europe. Cricri has a French blog (testimonial): Analyse de la SRCMtm. This article was posted on Elodie's blog in Europe: Pour Que Vive Le Sahaj Marg

Insertions by 4d-Don for the sake of clarity are in "red italics".

August 6, 2011

Elodie Said:

Cricri, a former abhyasi and "critic", who participated in our discussions and analysis of the SRCM in 2006, has just sent me this sad news (his blog: http://srcmtm-fr.blogspot.com/).

A Tribute (To Eugenyi) !

My friend was called Eugenyi

After the "fall" of the Soviet Empire (metamorphosis and expansion westward?) SRCMtm the greedy, ambitious predator, was prospecting for new prey in the vast eastern territories.

Some Minsk (USSR) recruits were invited to the Augerans (France) ashram in early 1990, going there by bus on a never-ending journey. There they were greeted very brotherly. I was tying up a strong friendship with two Belarusians of my age, and we kept in close touch for some years.

One of them was called Eugenyi . He was full of life and spontaneity, with a remarkable freshness of sentiments, that we, arrogant, cynical and saturated young people from the west, had never really had because of the destruction of our souls by the hydra of imperialism with its thousand faces.

Our lives followed their (individual) paths. I saw Eugenyi a few years later, at a SRCM(tm) seminar.

He had changed dramatically. Fully indoctrinated, distant, fanatic, if not obsessed. I tried not to have any judgement on his frightful condition so as to respect his process and his path. It was not the same person and our friendship had disappeared. He condemned my already critical attitude vis-à-vis the general subversion in which the SRCMtm got stuck under the evil guidance of the agent, Chari. He was flanked by another older character, possibly a preceptor. He seemed involved in an advanced program of brainwashing as a preceptorship preparation or some other executive position in the pyramid of power.

The other Belarusian friend had disappeared in the traffic. I had nothing to do with Eugenyi, an abyss seperated us.

The years passed; 20 years.

Through the systems of social networks on the internet I have just been contacted by a mutual friend who found my trail. The joy of reunion has quickly given way to a deep sadness and shock, learning of Eugenyi's suicide a few years ago.

Eugenyi, under the indoctrination pressure of spiritual progress constantly advocated by Chari, had engaged in an excessive practice of meditation that led him to the frontiers of mental health.

Our friend wrote me:

"Eugenyi overdid with daily meditations and came to the state with hallucinations etc - to the state that modern psychiatry treats as it is own ground - when his inbalances became evident he was also became rejected by the local SM community in Minsk (they did want to see him at the meditations as a grave reminder of "screwed by practice" examples). This is a very sad story.
Eugeniy very often referred to some old letters and talks with you. I really wanted that time to talk to you. There are in fact not many people that time left who knew SM and Eugeniy. Well this happened about 4 or 5 years ago."

In another email, he said:

"What really put him to desperation is that he was rejected by all fellow abhiasies who were instructed if I remember correctly not to have contacts with E and to forbid him to visit the meditations and cleanings."

This message is a tribute to the memory of Eugenyi. They looted his soul, then they destroyed it (him?), pushing him to despair by turning their backs when he most needed humanity.

The Responsibles? The criminal indoctrinating psychological pressure that is the "teaching" of Chari. The complete subversion of the spiritual teachings of Babuji. The "master" Chari who pollutes the souls with his own folly. The other "brothers" and "sisters", blind, submissive, selfish and inhumane.

Cricri

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Sahaj Marg(tm), Corrupt Enterprises, Corrupt "old people" And The Environment!

2011-08-05T22:21:00.008-07:00

Comments to Chari's Birthday Bash speech, July 24, 2011 ... about the corruption of the "old people", about the environment, and about destruction!! (see previous article on this blog: Sahaj Marg(tm) and Corruption)

Comments by 4d-Don are in "red italics"

If we are to believe the Sahaj Mart (tm) "sales shpeel" and/or the "Whispers" of their Anonymous French Lady Medium, thanks to the "indigo children", and their usurped spiritualist "Method", which they falsely call a "Raja Yoga", which begins at step #7 of Patanjali's original "eightfold" path, they will save the world from the "corruption" of "old people". They will clean the environment and make the "hoary" corrupt world (India) more SPIRITUAL.

The REALITY created by the Sahaj Mart(tm) nationalist Businessmen is much different.

As they "develop" more real estate, and build more "Master's Cottages" and living accomodations, retreats (Spurs 28 acre ranch), etc., for the elite disciples (with Charity dollars?), they point at the corruption in others!!

Sound familiar?

We Have A Duty To Our World

July 24, 2011, D.J Park, Tiruppur, India

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But, especially in this great peninsula of India, hoary with tradition, ancient tradition of spirituality, it has become so corrupt. Today’s old people are the most corrupt; the youth have hope. The younger the child, the more hope it has. It faces its destiny with courage, with strength, with anticipation; but the older people – they don’t know what to do with their life, because by and large it is a wasted life. The longer you have lived, the more you have earned, the more you have been corrupted, the more you have spoilt your society, dirtied your environment, and in general messed up the world – contrary to what Babuji Maharaj said, “When you leave, you must leave the world at least as good as you found it when you entered it, but try to do better and leave a better world.” Are we conscious of the world at all?

So it seems that, according to Chari, "hoary" spiritualist India is as corrupt (which most already know) as most "religious" (not spiritual) societies. The secular or "western" world, does not comparatively appear as corrupt. Could it be because the power of RELIGION has been reined-in or lessened in the secular west?

According to Chari, the "old people" are the most corrupt?? How old is Chari? 84 years old? Is that "old"? This is Chari, the ex-CEO of the largest consortium (TTK Group) in India, and who in his "retirement", has named himself President of a re-registered SRCM (California-1997) after the Board of Directors of Babuji's SRCM (Shahjahanpur-1945) refused to accept his "fake" letter of Succession? Is this an example of a "corrupt" old man in a "corrupt" society, which Chari mentions above?

This section of his speech seems to be "old" Chari revealing himself ... Chari seems to be talking about his corrupt self!! Is this the "confession" of an old man? It is not all "old people" who are corrupt, is it? Just some "profiteers" and some "power addicted" with megalomaniacal aspirations !!

Apparently, there are some "old people" from India, who pollute the world builing material "ashrams" and other "enterprises", (retreats, Master's cottages, etc ...) claiming that it is a portal to the DIVINE. This is the same "DIVINE" which in REALITY is ONE and/or ALL ... Everything, Everywhere and Everywhen (the E-Trinity). That is really corrupt and Chari calls his theological "pollution": spirituality.

Chari and his nationalist Businessmen (inner circle) "pave paradise and put up a PARKING LOT" (from a song by Joni Mitchell) , all in the name of "serving their male GOD and getting to "the Brighter World"!! This is the same religious India which has become one of the top four (4) countries in the world where women are the most in danger of being assaulted and killed.

SPIRITUAL??

All this talk of environmental pollution, protection of forests, greening the cities – do they have any meaning? Do we attach any meaning? Do those who talk about them have any seriousness of purpose? Because the next morning you see another hundred acres being cleared for a new enterprise. And when you see in the newspapers that all the land taken over in Noida, which is near Delhi in Uttar Pradesh, has to be returned to the agriculturists (that is the order of the present chief minister), I was very happy that the chief minister is waking up to the fact of land grabbing, environmental pollution, dacoities, everything. But a friend from Delhi told me, “Saheb, this is all an election gimmick. Next year Uttar Pradesh has its legislature (MLAs) State Assembly elections, and this is to gain votes.”

So, you see, in this country everything is to gain votes.

For a pseudo-GURU, the self-titled President of SRCM (California-1997) who, like a corrupt dictator, has a yearly birthday party, where his "disciples" travel from around the world to "worship" and/or ADORE their be-throned idol, thus increasing their "carbon footprint", to condemn others of "talk(ing) about pollution" is very religious in the sense that it is another example of moral "corruption" and very "hypocritical".

Like most religious, they speak with "forked tongues" and sell fantasies. Chari's new and very material "enterprises" are ASHRAMS and his "Master's cottages" (for himself) for when he travels ... Chari won't go to a hotel so he builds "cottages" for himself (with Charity dollars) and his successor. Is this another example of corrupt "old people" in India, which Chari mentions above??

Is this what he, an ex-ceo for a large consortium(TTK Group) calls environmentally sound? Is that an ethical use of "charity dollars"? But it is probably very difficult to prove "illegality". And all this as the poor die of starvation in Africa!! SHAME!! And the so-called "spiritual" and pseudo-environmentalist disciples support that "old fart's corruption"?

As long as it's exotic, then it's OK? If it's from India, then it must be "spiritual" or is that in REALITY: SPIRITUALISM or SPIRITISM or some other form of "old people's" corruption of spirituality?

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More to come later...

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Sahaj Marg(tm) and DESTRUCTION!!

2011-07-29T08:11:00.015-07:00

Taken from an article: "Destruction", by Elodie on her blog in Europe: Pour Que Vive Le Sahaj Marg

Comments and insertions by 4d-Don are in "red italics"

The saying, once used by Sahaj Marg(tm), does not seem to apply anymore:

"SPIRITUALITY unites and RELIGION/SPIRITALISM divides."

Sahaj Marg has not shown itself to unite even its own disciples and preceptors (and their families), and now, the abhyasis (practitioners) are being prepared for divisions in their own invented BRIGHTER WORLD, (with a "central region") where the saved will go "up" (heaven?) and the lost will go "down" (hell?)!! And they call their apocalyptic new religion "different" and "unique"?

Beware: Abhyasis are being prepared for a RELIGIOUS/SPIRITUALIST heaven and hell with some preferred position (space) in their "Brighter World" ("up") and some less preferred for the lost or the "left-behind" ("down").

This is NOT SPIRITUALITY but religion and SPIRITUALISM (Mediums, spirits, apocalyptic destructions and a "heaven and hell"!!

Sahaj Marg(tm) even divides their own invented "other worlds"!! They (the leadership) seem controlled by their reductionist or divisive MIND ! Or a spiritualist "ritual" of creating a divisive EGREGORE has been instigated by Chari, claiming it to come from Babuji! Egregores (Groupthink), like water always go to the "lowest common denominator" !!

July 29, 2011

Destruction

Chari's last speech at his birthday party unfortunately confirms our analysis on the apocalyptic turn of the Shri Ram Chandra Mission. After a long verse on the gangrenous corruption that plagues the world of politics in India, Chari concludes his speech with destruction and punishment, and the elite representatives of Sahaj Marg. Sad and regrettable, these populist and apocalyptic developments.

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Babuji Maharaj told me some twenty years ago, he said, “Dekho [Look], there is going to be destruction.”

Even now, our Whispers messages that we are getting, there is always talk of destruction. I am waiting one day for at least some hopeful message – not as long as we don’t change.

So what did Babuji Maharaj say when I asked him, “What about destruction? You are always talking about destruction.”

He said, “Yes.” And he was happy, he was laughing. He said, “Voh to hona hi hai. (It has to happen.)”

I said, “Babuji, what about sincere abhyasis who are devoted to you?”

He said, “Everybody will suffer when there is destruction.”

I asked him, “What is the use then of being an abhyasi?”

He said, “Itna sa farak hai, jo abhyasi hain, jo sincere hain, voh oopar jayenge, aur log neeche jaayenge.”

He said, “Those who are sincere abhyasis, dedicated, devoted, truthful, they will have to go but they will go up. The rest will go down. This is the difference.”

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Chari confirms that the messages of Whispers distil gradually for the abhyasis, the idea of inevitable destruction.

Babuji would have (allegedly) spoken to him twenty years ago, that is to say in 1991, seven years after his death. We did not know that Chari conversed directly with Babuji from the Brighter World. We even understand that the Whispers reached us via a medium (the anonymous French Lady Medium-AFLM) because Babuji could not communicate directly with Chari.

That upsets a little some of our knowledge, unless that at 84 years old, Chari is starting to ramble and mixes up the years, or it is only a lie. Earlier in his speech he said that the most elderly are the mostly corrupt. Should we apply to him, his own statement?

Regardless, he reports that Babuji tells him that the destruction is inevitable. However, it is undated and not explicit, leaving the possibility of interpretation in the future. As did Nostradamus in his time, he is opening until today, the field of the date interpretations to infinity.

Chari's reaction is interesting because he is concerned about the fate of the abhyasis, implying that they (the elite, the rewarded) should fare better than others. And Babuji to reassure him, said that even if they also have to suffer, they will fare better than the others (the impious, the barbarians, etc.)..

Chari, thank you for this shocking confirmation, Sahaj Marg is definitely dead and buried.

Elodie

See also:

The Punishment of the World and the Elite of Sahaj Marg(tm)
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The Punishment of the World And The Elite of Sahaj Marg(tm)

2011-07-01T21:17:00.006-07:00

Taken and translated from an article: "Le chatiment du monde et les élus de la SRCM", by Élodie on her blog in Europe, Pour Que Vive Le Sahaj Marg .

Insertion by 4d-Don for the sake of translation are in "red italics"

Happy Canada Day!

July 1, 2011

The punishment of the world and the elect (chosen, elite) of the SRCM

The French Interministerial Mission for Vigilance and Combatting against Sectarian Abuses (Miviludes) has released its latest report, with the main theme being: the resurgence of apocalyptic discourse.

In the appendices to the first part of this report, I invite you to read the analysis of Sonya Jougla, a clinical psychologist specializing in the care of victims of sectarian influence (read from pages 115-126 of the report at: http://www.miviludes.gouv.fr/IMG/pdf/ra2010_mise_en_ligne.pdf).

The Shri Ram Chandra Mission enters fully into the criteria that defines an apocalyptic cult. Indeed, it is not necessary to announce the end of THE world or the date of the Apocalypse to be classified as an apocalyptic cult, suffice it to announce the end of ONE world.

The meaning of Apocalypse (from page 117):

"A relentless logic which one finds in all apocalyptic groups:

- Society and the world are evil, locked in matter, in the material;
- We (the group), we are good, invested with a "divine mission" by "superior entities";
- Our mission is to save the world;
- Only the elect (chosen, elite) will be saved. The ungodly, the unbelievers will be annihilated;
- The groups await this end of the world to create with the elect (chosen, elite), this future utopian world, a kind of paradise on earth, and create the new human race. "

One would think that one was reading the Whispers of Babuji in the text.

Elodie

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Let it Be? Comment on Adizes Blog re: Sahaj Marg(tm). (un-published)

2011-06-28T13:35:00.008-07:00

This comment was posted on an essay by Dr. Ichak K. Adizes about Sahaj Marg(tm): The Wonderful Life of Not Expecting! on the Adizes blog site on June 28, 2001 at 1:38 PM.

Comment by 4d-Don:

Since the moderator of that blog did not publish my comment, then I will publish it here.

Dear Sir:

Let it be??

The current Master of Sahaj Marg did not "let it be" when he was removed as Secretary of SRCM (Lucknow-1945) by the founder. He did not "let it be" when the Board of Directors refused his succession letter and accepted the Founder's son, Umesh's letter of nomination. Instead, he founded a parallel society, using the same name but registered in San Luis Obispo, California, USA (SRCM California-1997).

The court cases between the two successors and societies demonstrates that: "words are cheap"... Like true materialist businessmen, they do not "let it be", but do everyting to control and posess.

There's a saying "down home": "Push, but push evenly". Or: "What's good for the goose, (the followers), should be good for the gander (the Master)"

Is that not why most see religion as "hypocritical"?

Don

See also original article on this blog:

For Sahaj Marg(tm)! Another Successor Soon?
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