tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18629795.post2296718173904346020..comments2024-01-14T23:25:47.385-08:00Comments on Our World from Another Dimension: Sahaj Marg(tm)'s Religion vs Spirituality4d-Donhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16598693596938426520noreply@blogger.comBlogger1125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18629795.post-24958473286873924942012-11-27T23:48:59.264-08:002012-11-27T23:48:59.264-08:00Translation of comments on Elodie's blog: &quo...Translation of comments on Elodie's blog: "Pour Que Vive Le Sahaj Marg", article titled: "Religion vs Spiritualité"<br /><br />http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=20689467&postID=5528010904410262818<br /><br /><br /><b>Alexis said ...</b><br /><br />A very (too?) beautiful presentation of spirituality! If you continue, I'll convert ...<br /><br />An even more caustic expression, that of Jean-Claude Saint-Louis, a Canadian member of the collective Albert's Portal, who writes on current thinking and spirituality:<br /><br /><i>(...) "Religion is dominant and centralizing and is against the autonomy of the people which it controls and constrains by fear, emotion and even hatred of others. For its part, spirituality is the internal autonomy and the absence of power over others, it is submission only to the interior God. Religion is based on adherence and obedience while spirituality is based on the quest for the Kingdom in each of us<br /><br />(...) Religion operates on the dominant/dominated principle as it is very difficult to exercise power over people by maintaining in them, their own internal availability.<br /><br />(...) The spiritual experience is personal knowledge of the divine at the center or at the origin of ourselves, which frees us from fear of the dominant/dominated and complex, and which triggers in us, energy, creativity and compassion. The personal experience is complete autonomy under the inspiration of our inner Master. It is an individual experience, inviolable and incommunicable, which changes all of our connections and our relationships with others, and with things.<br /><br />(...) When spirituality is lost, what remains? An empty shell "religion": this set of external controls and constraints of fear and guilt, expressed in dogmas, rituals and hierarchies. Spirituality is a matter of the heart, growth and of internal calling, expressed in an intimate relationship with our divine within.<br /><br />(...) Religion has not released man from his fears, much the opposite. The reason is that human beings have gradually abandoned spirituality for religion, in other words, the "Kingdom" for the Church or the inner calling for the external authority. Religion interferes in our lives, dictating to us in every detail, what we do and think, thus abolishing any chance of inner transformation, of discovery by ourselves, of our personal path, the sense of our spiritual life, of our path by which we can grow without being manipulated by a group no matter how pious it may be."<br /><br />Monday, November 26, 2012</i><br /><br /><br /><b>Elodie said ...</b><br /><br /><br />Hello to everyone,<br /><br />When we see the importance of the dependence of the abhyasis towards their guru, Chari, we can actually speak of a dominant/dominated relationship. Sahaj Marg would thus have substituted an external authority (religious) to the inner calling (spiritual). Under these conditions, there is no chance of inner transformation. By a clever manipulation, the master diverts our attention from a personal and spiritual path for his own benefit: to exercise a dominating power over people.<br /><br />It makes one think.<br /><br />Affectionately,<br /><br />Elodie<br /><br /><i>Tuesday, November 27, 2012</i>4d-Donhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16598693596938426520noreply@blogger.com