tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18629795.post2275490463185925213..comments2024-01-14T23:25:47.385-08:00Comments on Our World from Another Dimension: Rose's Testimonial Part 2! Sahaj Marg At Its Best!4d-Donhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16598693596938426520noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18629795.post-76157844220497884602010-10-04T10:33:20.270-07:002010-10-04T10:33:20.270-07:00HI William...
I agree with you... I have been say...HI William...<br /><br />I agree with you... I have been saying that the preceptors should also be trained in "giving advice" on every topic as they want the abhyasis to obey the Master not only in Spiritual Matters but in every aspect of life...<br /><br />The Master should then also be trained in every aspect of Life and not simply be an ex-CEO or ex-businessman who has learned to make money and manipulate people... <br /><br />Obedience may be part of RELIGION but not of SPIRIT! TO BE does not mean to Obey or to DO! ... <br /><br />And they call this Sahaj or "Natural"??<br /><br />Does the Cedar tree obey the fir tree so as to be SPIRIT or Spiritual??<br /><br />Sahaj Marg(tm) has a tribal mentality, a cultural clan or a nationalistic remnant of the "CASTE" SYSTEM. It is sexist, nepotist, racist (culturalist), and shows or displays its arrogance at every corner.<br /><br />It is not Universal spirituality but Nationalist (Tribal) Spiritualism. Their focus is on "spiritualism" with Mediums, spirits, messages from the dead, egregores, etc..<br /><br />Thanks for you comment...<br /><br />Donl4d-Donhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16598693596938426520noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18629795.post-33317102661785043012010-10-04T05:24:32.061-07:002010-10-04T05:24:32.061-07:00I really think there should be an organisation set...I really think there should be an organisation set up to psychologically support the victims of self disillusionment.<br />Whether it's that people are being brainwashed or that the people who end up being harmed by such a system are in some way vulnerable to institutionalised by any similar system regardless of the true aim of the system. <br />I noticed one recurring theme whilst practising sahaj marg and that was a form of self harm, mostly in a emotional sense. Everything seemed to be about purging the evil out of oneself to attain this ultimate condition that only one man had. <br />It was full of contradictions that were justified using simple mind games. <br />If you were to truly follow the teachings of sahaj marg as outlined in the more philosophical volumes you are told pretty much not do anything. <br />Everything is a double negative in sahaj marg and the great appeal of it to anyone feeling a need for some kind of spiritual fulfilment is that you unconsciously ignore the teaching that you don't like and focus on the ones that fit your own pathology. <br />I won't be told that I've fallen off some wagon and have become spiritually baron, I'm happy, I don't over analyse myself or others, I dream, I wish, I have desires, I love people, I enjoy sex, I have arguments, I get upset, I get angry sometimes, I enjoy eating nice food, I smoke but one thing I never do is feel guilty or regret what an amazing experience living is with all the good and the bad things that get thrown my way.Williamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07433093237554954807noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18629795.post-21633266332577226942010-05-31T22:23:12.589-07:002010-05-31T22:23:12.589-07:00My dear anonymous...
I concur... and most rationa...My dear anonymous...<br /><br />I concur... and most rational person with an ounce of critical thinking will also concur...<br /><br />I guess the "brainwashing" around remaining loyal and obedient to the Master (Chari) under the "threat" of behing "left behind" is strong ... It's the same "my country right or wrong" nationalism that divides "nations" and makes the "addicts" co-dependents, rather than "patriots" ...<br /><br />I know the fear I felt when I finally left "Christianity" (Catholicism) and began relying on my own "contact" with ONE (the Divine in ALL), until I met Sahaj Marg through a friend and I tried it for a number of years (under Babuji) ... I left when Chari took over, after metting him "once" ... That was enough ... I am grateful for my "god-given" instincts ...<br /><br /><br />One can fool some of the people some of the time...<br />One can even fool most of the people most of the time...<br />But one can't fool all of the people all of the time ...<br /><br /><br />Thanks for the comment ...<br /><br />Don ...4d-Donhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16598693596938426520noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18629795.post-71485998333216216262010-05-31T22:19:55.278-07:002010-05-31T22:19:55.278-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.4d-Donhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16598693596938426520noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18629795.post-64067226624844757672010-05-31T18:06:55.374-07:002010-05-31T18:06:55.374-07:00My dear Don,
The speculations, contemplations and...My dear Don,<br /><br />The speculations, contemplations and what not....with regard to the 'Whispers' nothing short of a 'Hearty Confession' that the person who succeeded the Eternal Master, Babuji Maharaj has lost his connection with Him, and therefore, now the messages (so called.....with no authenticity whatsoever) are coming through another 'anonymous' medium. Who would want to believe such baseless theories!? It is really disgusting....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18629795.post-83993554921760172352010-03-02T09:11:43.778-08:002010-03-02T09:11:43.778-08:00Hi all...
What is to be learned from this tragic ...Hi all...<br /><br />What is to be learned from this tragic episode?<br /><br />Birds of a feather flock together!!<br /><br />Those who "mis-represent themselves" are attracted to those who "mis-represent themselves". It is easy to hide one's flawed character among other flawed characters. It is easy to promote a flawed hypothesis (channeling of messages from the spirits of the deceased) among those who believe in "channeling" ... It is easier to manipulate those who are willingly manipulated daily by "pie in the sky" fantasies and stories of Salvation, Liberation, erasing of samskaras, etc.. by other "manipulators" (businessmen).<br /><br />But the critical "suspension of REASON" in Sahaj Marg and other such "cults of Personalities" is what is the most at fault here... <br /><br />Why did Rose's fiance and his friend so readily believe "MEDIUM no. 2"? And for so long? And why did the fiance agree to leave his "love" for the sake of "adhering" to a flawed "ism" from a un-scrupulous character? Why did the friend agree to renovate his house, in exchange for becoming a "preceptor"? <br /><br />Thank "ONE" (God) the "MEDIUM no 2" did not ask for anything "criminal"!!<br /><br />Would one want and accept such "suspension of REASON and such gullibility from one's doctor, the police, a judge, a soldier, a lawyer, a therapist, a surgeon, any profession?<br /> <br />The suspension of reason on the Path of Life is only requested by those who have something to hide or something to gain ... the manipulators and the scammers. <br /><br />THE ONE and the path to ONE should make sense and REASON should not be suspended that "lightly" ... One suspends reason for love of family, friends, country, species but it should not be as cavalier as "obey me because I'm the MASTER" or "the next ONE", or a MEDIUM ... That is "EGO" ... Only those who huge egos are manipulated by "egotists"... Only the narcissists are fooled by narcissists!! A con-person can only "con: a dishonest person!!<br /><br />Let us hope that all have learned a lesson and that the SAHAJ MARG philosophy and METHOD will be challenged and questioned in the future ... Specially the "channeling of messages from beyond the grave, and the use of "egregores", before any other such sad episode are repeated with more tragic results...<br /><br />Use your "ONE(God)-given BRAIN to think, not the PUMP which is the HEART!! And do not use the "emotions" or the traditional (but false) emotional center, at the heart region, to make life decisions... use your BRAIN, your nerve center ... <br /><br />PS... The "MEDIUM no 1" is still in hiding ... Babuji or any "elevated" soul would not use such "trickery" as channeling to communicate "energy" or SPIRIT!! ... Is Sahaj Marg "SPIRITUALITY" or SPIRITUALISM or SPIRITISM??? <br /><br />GET SMART!! Don't be a serf any longer!!<br /><br />Don..4d-Donhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16598693596938426520noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18629795.post-55922460632437386162010-03-02T03:45:59.909-08:002010-03-02T03:45:59.909-08:00ok.. so it seems the messages from brighter world ...ok.. so it seems the messages from brighter world does not come from "Anonymous" medium, and everyone in SRCM can at-least confirm that her name is not Catherine.<br /><br />Lady is anonymous only for those outside SRCM, and those inside know that her name is not Catherine (at-least).. <br /><br />the hunt is on.. <br /><br /><br />lol.. these jokers<br /><br />Love<br />ShashwatShashwathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00964293138258874968noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18629795.post-16633664785119959232010-03-01T14:27:28.108-08:002010-03-01T14:27:28.108-08:00Hi Rose...
And Don says to your ex-fiance and his...Hi Rose...<br /><br />And Don says to your ex-fiance and his friend: "You're welcome"!! Thank God for Rose!! <br /><br />You might have been stuck for a long time in the grips of this "French MEDIUM" as some are stuck (adherents) in the grips of another anonymous "French Lady Medium" ... <br /><br />Then they (the abhyasis) are also stuck in the grips of an: autonomous egregore", and who knows what the "collective Mind" will create with that MONSTER !! But all must "obey" and most will!! <br /><br />The Monster is of the "id"!!<br /><br />"Free will" is not a salient feature of Sahaj Marg(tm) as it is with Christianity ... In Sahaj Marg, if there is a fire (in one's house) and one doesn't know about it, then that "ignorant" one is relatively "happier"! God, according to Chari, did not create man with free will, and acting on accumulated "knowledge", but his natural place (as with sheep) is to "obey" any and all "Masters" OR "GURUS" who are apparently all the representatives of GOD (male) ... This is for the "serfs"... They obey the "inner circle" or any other "authority figure"... In Christianity, after the Reformation and the Enlightenment, GOD is said to have created Man with "FREE WILL"!!<br /><br />Remember you who use "autonomous egregores" or other "collective psychic entities":<br /><br />The Monster is of the "id"!!<br /><br />Don...4d-Donhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16598693596938426520noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18629795.post-56200954007047588262010-03-01T12:26:34.840-08:002010-03-01T12:26:34.840-08:00Hi everyone, this is "rose"
I do have a...Hi everyone, this is "rose"<br /><br />I do have a photo of catherine but i cant post it online as my ex fiance is in the picture and i have to respect his privacy.<br /><br />Everything written in my story is 100% true.<br /><br />When i was in India Catherine told us there were 2 french mediums who received messaged from Babuji one was her and there was another one but she did not tell us her name.<br /><br />If people think my story is not true then they can but i dont know why i would waste time making up such a ridiculous story-i do have better things to do.<br /><br />Anyway since all this has happened my ex fiancee and his friend have had clarification from Master that Catherine Lauret is not who she says she is and they are no longer following her.<br /><br />RoseAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18629795.post-18508882950247291492010-03-01T10:16:24.938-08:002010-03-01T10:16:24.938-08:00Hi Alw...
Just as you chose a "user id"...Hi Alw...<br /><br />Just as you chose a "user id" and many use "aka", the Medium may have chosen another name also ... But the "author" of the testimonial has a "photo"... <br /><br />Don't you think it's kind of odd, and strange that you will be getting your "BIBLE" of Sahaj Marg from someone you don't know and who wants to remain anonymous and claims to channel messages from Lalaji and Babuji?? How can you check this person out?? You will now live according to the words of an anonymous person ... you will end up "anywhere" and who will you hold responsible? The Medium or the "message senders"?? How do you know if the senders (Spirits) are "who they say they are"... The Medium is not a "professional" and has no responsibility, she can say anything she wants... <br /><br />If Sahaj Marg is about removal of "fear of death", then read the "fear and temptation" mechanism used daily by Chari!! He does not remove it but uses "FEAR" so as to keep the "adherents" trapped in his WEB ... He even used the term: "Spiritual death" as if that is possible ... SPIRIT, if it is REALITY does not DIE!!<br /><br />I don't generalize when I say that it is a "haven for MEDIUMS" and Alternate therapies (psycho-genealogy, etc..) and even "astrology" and "numerology"... not very SPIRITUAL but very "NEW AGE" and very "saleable" so as to extricate money from the gullible and docile sheep ... Stand up for the love of ONE!! <br /><br />With most people, Religion does not have to be "forced down the throat"... most have their mouth wide open and are ready to eat anything that anyone who wants to claim "authority" sends their way ... That is the called the "opiates of the masses" syndrome for a reason, that we see at work in "commercialism" ... If it does not work then why do so many businessmen spend millions promoting any and all "poisons" (in foods) and why do so many simply eat the poison (in their foods) and suffer and eventually die (cancer) ?? Commercialism and enticement !! Not "force"... <br /><br />The claims about Lalaji is that he could change an "animal" to a Human" with just a "glance" ... If they can't produce better abhysis (themselves), then how can they promise "liberation" and/or Salvation?? Just a SCAM!! PROMISE ANYTHING... After all, they will not be around to be brought to trial!! Who will have them arrested after their death when they are on Venus with their Master? (where Chari thinks he is going after death)...<br /><br />To each on his own path ...YES!! Mine is exposing scams of religious profiteers, who affect any of my PEOPLE, and any of my species, the citizens of the WORLD ...<br /><br />All will know the truth if they want it... my truth and your truth are just a part of it... Now we have "Rose's truth!! ... they and you can chose what and who to believe!!<br /><br />We checked Rose's story and the other parts of her story are "possible", the characters (the names) exist, and the towns exist ... So why lie about the "medium" ?? Some person at the Ashram in India, met with them and is manipulating the abhyasis!! THEM!! <br /><br />Who is responsible at Sahaj Marg?? Only the Master?? Who will do anything about it?? NO-ONE!! We will not hear anything about it from the "ESTABLISHMENT" of Sahaj Marg (tm), as with all other religious abuses, it will go into the closet... We, the BLOGGERS, which Chari calls the "enemies of Spirituality", but the "friends of the PEOPLE", will expose the contents of the closet and shine the light in there ... We will be the friend of the VICTIM!! <br /><br />And we will live by: "To the victim, a witness"!!<br /><br />Thanks for your comment!!<br /><br />Don4d-Donhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16598693596938426520noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18629795.post-45749967190601670462010-03-01T05:55:18.860-08:002010-03-01T05:55:18.860-08:00Dear Don,
Well..thats a long reply from you...
I a...Dear Don,<br />Well..thats a long reply from you...<br />I am not here to prove anything.. just felt like expressing my thoughts (if it offends... i wld like to pst and disturb anymore).. specifically abt the medium...bcos i know the name of the medium... which is not Catherine... but i do not think i should not reveal it.. because i do not want to infringe on anyone's privacy...<br /><br />Now regarding what you have replied.. i respect it as your opinion but i humbly disagree that mine is different..<br /><br />One thing I agree is that if someone is hanging around ashrams saying that she is medium.blah..blah.. that nuclear war is coming etc etc it is stupid and SRCM people should see to it that such things are handled.. bcos.. ultiamtely..any spiritual system... is abt removela of fear of death...right.. and living life well...<br />But you should not generalise Don... that Sahaj Marg is a haven for mediums etc... i agree completely that this incident should be probed bcos such people shld not wander arnd causing such issues and at the same time wrecking people's marriages.<br />Dear Don... i never said that i am doubting the testimony of the abhyasi...<br /><br />I practise sahaj marg.. and atleast for me it doesnot force anything down my throat... <br />Yes there are many abhyasis..who dont behave like abhyasis should...but they are after all people.. with thier own egos.. their own ideas.. it cannot be removed in one day right... otherwise.. any Guru.. anywhere ..if he can just with a brush stroke clean everybody around.. how simple life would be... so everyday we are fighting a war within ourself... and sahaj marg acts a weapon which helps us to fight that war within... but for eachone his own path....<br />Adios..<br />AlwAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18629795.post-68355015692671823822010-03-01T00:33:09.808-08:002010-03-01T00:33:09.808-08:00Nice story and the Oscar goes to...Nice story and the Oscar goes to...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18629795.post-59330138181495134332010-02-28T17:02:19.881-08:002010-02-28T17:02:19.881-08:00Anonymous and Theo...
Rose said that she and her ...Anonymous and Theo...<br /><br />Rose said that she and her fiance met a French Lady "medium", (with a young man (Shiva) who appeared to be her acolyte or "slave" ... not a scribe (a writer) ... <br /><br />A Medium is one who claims to act as a go-between in a communication from "beyond the grave" and claims to channels messages from the "SPIRITS" of the deceased ... <br /><br />As Rose has a photograph of the person she met, It will be easy to verify if that person is "Catherine Lauret" as she claimed to be ... <br /><br />If she is not, then someone is hanging around the Ashrams and is claiming to be the "next" Master of Sahaj Marg (not AJ Bhatter) and claiming to be "channeling" messages from Babuji and fooling some "english" abhyasis with her "tales from Beyond". Sahaj Marg seems to have become a haven for "mediums" and every other spiritualist "crackpot" from far and wide ... <br /><br />Spirituality and Spiritualism or Spiritism are not one and the same...<br />And predictions of "disasters" as this are a dime a dozen ... It's the way "religions" attract the "gullible" and the "weak-minded" ... It is the "opiates of the Masses" or the Fantasy and Fairy tales that sells mostly to "women", but also to naive and disempowered young men also ...<br /><br />What makes you doubt that Catherine Lauret is the MEDIUM who is responsible for the Whispers from the Brighter World that will become the Next Sahaj Marg BIBLE according to Chari? (not a Scribe!! ) ... <br /><br />How many French Lady Mediums are hanging around the Ashrams and gathering young men as their "acolytes", and claim to be the "next One"??<br /><br />If yours are only a gut feelings then Rose's account is a "personal" meeting with that person. And her fiance met this person before in England also, and she has photos!! ...<br /><br />Give us your "data" and "evidence" not just "feelings"!!<br /><br />Words are cheap!! But nebulous "feelings" are cheaper than words!! <br /><br />Thankfully, we are not trying to "convince" you or anyone. We are simply presenting the "testimonial" of yet another "abhyasi" who has had a "bad experience" with Sahaj Marg ...<br /><br />Thanks for your comments...<br /><br />Don4d-Donhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16598693596938426520noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18629795.post-32180398390281023372010-02-28T12:37:07.853-08:002010-02-28T12:37:07.853-08:00I am also not convinced C.L. is the medium.
TheoI am also not convinced C.L. is the medium.<br /><br />TheoAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18629795.post-32024933297089994702010-02-28T06:55:51.198-08:002010-02-28T06:55:51.198-08:00Well, i do not think the name of the scribe is Cat...Well, i do not think the name of the scribe is Catherine Lauret..<br />Regards<br />AlwAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com